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'NewlyRetired said:
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'The Gator said:
Could be a good topic for discussion; How did you come to follow your soccer team?
The old fashioned way. They play 18 minutes from my house. Local team.
I should add to this for older farts like Floppo and myself, when we were in our prime "looking for a team to support" years, there were no local teams and not enough on tv to develop a real following for a club team abroad, so we latched on to the US National team as our club team and I think it still remains "our" local team till today. Once the US players started breaking into Europe, we followed those teams with US players on it and still do to today.
Yeah, pretty much. For me, I never made the team but was kinda in the picture of making the US youth teams- and it was always my dream. So routing for the USMNT came really, really naturally to me, especially when there were guys I knew on it (John Doyle, Dom Kinnear, Marcelo Balboa). And like Andy said, it was the only "real" team out there after college, barring regional semi-pro teams that most of my peers played for.But I lived in Milan for a bit in the late 80s and got to be friends with the guy at my local cafe, who was a lifelong Inter fan. Went to San Siro with him a few times and got hooked. It helped that they won the Serie A that year and had some of my favorite players (Mattheus, Brehme, Klinsman, Zenga) and that those were the years that Serie A were head and shoulder the best league in the world. But even though I lived there, the whole team allegiance thing never mattered to me. I still enjoy watching Milan play as long as they're not playing in the derby.
 
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Slim's billions make Marquez deal possibleby Paul Kennedy, December 10th, 2012 10:29PM [MLS SPOTLIGHT] Could the New York Red Bulls' long nightmare be over? If Rafael Marquez is headed to Mexico, it can thank Carlos Slim, the world's richest man, for making the deal possible.Arturo Elias Ayub, Slim's son-in-law, told the Mexican sports daily Record, that Leon has been working on finalizing an agreement and it hopes to conclude a deal early this week for the former Mexico national team captain.Slim's America Movil bought interests in promoted Leon and Pachuca this summer with the hope of breaking the hold of Televisa and TV Azteca on lucrative Mexican soccer television rights.Marquez has been a bust in his two and a half seasons with the Red Bulls, but he is still a marketable player, especially to a club with an agenda like Leon.Besides Marquez, who played just 15 games for the Red Bulls in 2012, Leon has signed another former Mexican international who was a bust in MLS.A deal to move Nery Castillo, who played for the Chicago Fire, from Pachuca to Leon was announced on Monday.
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Wimbledon chose me in the early 90s when the local PBS affiliate showed English league games on Saturday morning. Those were the days where Wimbledon was top flight. Mrs. Eephus and I lived in the Mission back then and our local was Donington Park on 19th and Folsom. The Donington had a heavy English and Welsh clientele so I didn't take my decision lightly. I wanted to maximize people buying me rounds and minimize getting punched by drunks.

I used to do more international business back then, so I limited myself to London clubs. I discarded Arsenal and Chelsea because I didn't want to be a bandwagon jumper. I liked the underdog mentality of the Crazy Gang and their supporters. They didn't play pretty soccer but they were distinctive. Wimbledon had the added advantages of rarely selling out their home games after moving to Selhurst Park, a pretty active online community and nice uniforms.

It was fun for a while. The Dons were good enough to hang around the top half of the table and the renovation of Plough Lane wasn't a lost cause yet. I was committed by the time they started slipping down the pyramid and the rumors started of Dublin and finally MK. I made it to a couple of games before the bottom fell out but I really feel bad for the fans who lived and died with the club. AFC has been a great story but I miss having a Premier League team to really care about.

 
But I lived in Milan for a bit in the late 80s and got to be friends with the guy at my local cafe, who was a lifelong Inter fan. Went to San Siro with him a few times and got hooked. It helped that they won the Serie A that year and had some of my favorite players (Mattheus, Brehme, Klinsman, Zenga) and that those were the years that Serie A were head and shoulder the best league in the world. But even though I lived there, the whole team allegiance thing never mattered to me. I still enjoy watching Milan play as long as they're not playing in the derby.
I loved those years in Serie A back in the days of 3 foreigners per team (Milan with 3 Dutch, Inter with 3 German etc). It was very fun watching how teams went about using those precious slots, not to dissimilar from what MLS has to do with the 3 DP players (albeit with significantly better choices for Serie A back then in quality). I used to watch every Sunday with my dad translating for me on Rai.
 
But I lived in Milan for a bit in the late 80s and got to be friends with the guy at my local cafe, who was a lifelong Inter fan. Went to San Siro with him a few times and got hooked. It helped that they won the Serie A that year and had some of my favorite players (Mattheus, Brehme, Klinsman, Zenga) and that those were the years that Serie A were head and shoulder the best league in the world. But even though I lived there, the whole team allegiance thing never mattered to me. I still enjoy watching Milan play as long as they're not playing in the derby.
I loved those years in Serie A back in the days of 3 foreigners per team (Milan with 3 Dutch, Inter with 3 German etc). It was very fun watching how teams went about using those precious slots, not to dissimilar from what MLS has to do with the 3 DP players (albeit with significantly better choices for Serie A back then in quality). I used to watch every Sunday with my dad translating for me on Rai.
I forgot that RAI was pretty much the only horse in town showing games back then. (eta: also forgot about the 3 foreigner rule)When did Zizou play for Juve? I remember watching him on RAI and thinking wth do all his opponents keep letting him do whatever he wants? Kept thinking that until I saw him live.
 
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But I lived in Milan for a bit in the late 80s and got to be friends with the guy at my local cafe, who was a lifelong Inter fan. Went to San Siro with him a few times and got hooked. It helped that they won the Serie A that year and had some of my favorite players (Mattheus, Brehme, Klinsman, Zenga) and that those were the years that Serie A were head and shoulder the best league in the world. But even though I lived there, the whole team allegiance thing never mattered to me. I still enjoy watching Milan play as long as they're not playing in the derby.
I loved those years in Serie A back in the days of 3 foreigners per team (Milan with 3 Dutch, Inter with 3 German etc). It was very fun watching how teams went about using those precious slots, not to dissimilar from what MLS has to do with the 3 DP players (albeit with significantly better choices for Serie A back then in quality). I used to watch every Sunday with my dad translating for me on Rai.
I forgot that RAI was pretty much the only horse in town showing games back then. (eta: also forgot about the 3 foreigner rule)When did Zizou play for Juve? I remember watching him on RAI and thinking wth do all his opponents keep letting him do whatever he wants? Kept thinking that until I saw him live.
He was a little bit after the glory years of the early 90's. he started with Juve in 96.
 
Lived in Madrid for a year and a half. How the hell can someone move there and become a Real Madrid fan? They suck. Plus, I'm anti-royal (although I do like Juan Carlos I and respect what's he's done).

Plus, I like underdogs and misery.

 
I couldn't catch much soccer on TV so I didn't have a favorite team although I watched matches when I could. And I am not the bandwagon jumper type almost to a fault so I couldn't just follow the big teams because I could watch them more. A few years ago I was teaching in California and often spoke with an Italian exchange student whose favorite team was Juventus. He had no one else to talk to about their matches so I started to become attached to the team. I think the fact that they were struck down to Serie B eased the anti-bandwagon thing. It is hard not to enjoy the soccer they play and I have completely adopted them.

In the EPL, I tried to follow Americans and considered Liverpool but on Football Manager I wanted a no frills tough EPL team that would fit a funky 3-5-3 formation I wanted to test out. Wolves was the perfect fit and began to read up on their history and liked the tradition despite the lack of recent top flight honors. Of course, they have been relegated and don't look likely to make it back up. I watch them when I can. I don't think I will pick up another team although I do watch a decent amount of EPL.

Last year I was able to catch some Champions League matches and immediately fell for Borussia Dortmund. The midfield pressure they put on teams and lightning quick counterattacks were easy to like especially in the yellow and black kits. I also hate Bayern Munich so that helped. Watching nearly every match this season has just cemented my like for the team. I just hoped they don't get poached too severely in the next few years. The Lewandoski talk is getting heavy.

I am slowly beginning to follow La Liga and will probably find a team to follow if/when BEIN HD is added to comcast. I know it won't be the big boys and I probably will look for another underdog to go with Wolves instead of another big club.

 
But I lived in Milan for a bit in the late 80s and got to be friends with the guy at my local cafe, who was a lifelong Inter fan. Went to San Siro with him a few times and got hooked. It helped that they won the Serie A that year and had some of my favorite players (Mattheus, Brehme, Klinsman, Zenga) and that those were the years that Serie A were head and shoulder the best league in the world. But even though I lived there, the whole team allegiance thing never mattered to me. I still enjoy watching Milan play as long as they're not playing in the derby.
I loved those years in Serie A back in the days of 3 foreigners per team (Milan with 3 Dutch, Inter with 3 German etc). It was very fun watching how teams went about using those precious slots, not to dissimilar from what MLS has to do with the 3 DP players (albeit with significantly better choices for Serie A back then in quality). I used to watch every Sunday with my dad translating for me on Rai.
I was introduced to Euro soccer living in Germany during this era in which Serie A dominated Europe. There was also Maradona at Napoli and Platini at Juve. All the money was in Italy at the time and they gobbled up every superstar. Platini won three Euro player of the year awards followed by Guillit and Van Basten winning three more, and I think Rummenigge and Mattaus won a few in that era as well, basically sweeping the 80s for Italian clubs.
 
Pardon the off-topic comment here guys, but my seven year old wants to see some of the icons -- they catch his attention every time he sees me posting...

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I can't stand Ferguson and I'm not really the type to jump on the top team so United was pretty much out. My BIL has lived in England off and on for a few decades and he said Chelsea fans are generally regarded as twats over there so that left them out. Out of the handful of remaining teams I could watch with some consistency. I chose Tottenham because my wife had been a Tottenham fan when she lived in England. This was around the beginning of Harry's reign as well and I liked him.

I caught games before this, but I never really picked someone to root for.

 
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USWNT v. Men's U17Who wins? This question was put to Alex Morgan on a radio show...
When the 1999 WWC US team practiced, they always chose regional U17 boys teams to scrimmage against. They regularly lost and that women's team was loaded. I think against a full US Men's U17 team, they would lose 8 out of 10, something like that, IMO. . The women have never played against speed like Rubio Rubin before.Skill wise the teams would not be all that different but the speed differential would eventually break them down. And if the speed did not get them eventually free kicks would as outside of Wambach, they would be smaller at almost every position. You can usually resist either size or speed, but when both are against you, the odds are not in your favor when the skills are pretty close.How did Morgan answer the question?
 
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USWNT v. Men's U17Who wins? This question was put to Alex Morgan on a radio show...
When the 1999 WWC US team practiced, they always chose regional U17 boys teams to scrimmage against. They regularly lost and that women's team was loaded. I think against a full US Men's U17 team, they would lose 8 out of 10, something like that, IMO. . The women have never played against speed like Rubio Rubin before.Skill wise the teams would not be all that different but the speed differential would eventually break them down. And if the speed did not get them eventually free kicks would as outside of Wambach, they would be smaller at almost every position. You can usually resist either size or speed, but when both are against you, the odds are not in your favor when the skills are pretty close.How did Morgan answer the question?
It's a silly question. My HS team could take the USWNT.
 
USWNT v. Men's U17Who wins? This question was put to Alex Morgan on a radio show...
When the 1999 WWC US team practiced, they always chose regional U17 boys teams to scrimmage against. They regularly lost and that women's team was loaded. I think against a full US Men's U17 team, they would lose 8 out of 10, something like that, IMO. . The women have never played against speed like Rubio Rubin before.Skill wise the teams would not be all that different but the speed differential would eventually break them down. And if the speed did not get them eventually free kicks would as outside of Wambach, they would be smaller at almost every position. You can usually resist either size or speed, but when both are against you, the odds are not in your favor when the skills are pretty close.How did Morgan answer the question?
It's a silly question. My HS team could take the USWNT.
:goodposting: I remember when my U16 club team massacred the women's pro team out of Boston - it was so ugly that the game was called at halftime. The difference in physicality is just too much to overcome.
 
USWNT v. Men's U17Who wins? This question was put to Alex Morgan on a radio show...
When the 1999 WWC US team practiced, they always chose regional U17 boys teams to scrimmage against. They regularly lost and that women's team was loaded. I think against a full US Men's U17 team, they would lose 8 out of 10, something like that, IMO. . The women have never played against speed like Rubio Rubin before.Skill wise the teams would not be all that different but the speed differential would eventually break them down. And if the speed did not get them eventually free kicks would as outside of Wambach, they would be smaller at almost every position. You can usually resist either size or speed, but when both are against you, the odds are not in your favor when the skills are pretty close.How did Morgan answer the question?
She thought the U17 team would win because of the speed and strength, but pointed out that the women's team would be technically better.
 
USWNT v. Men's U17Who wins? This question was put to Alex Morgan on a radio show...
When the 1999 WWC US team practiced, they always chose regional U17 boys teams to scrimmage against. They regularly lost and that women's team was loaded. I think against a full US Men's U17 team, they would lose 8 out of 10, something like that, IMO. . The women have never played against speed like Rubio Rubin before.Skill wise the teams would not be all that different but the speed differential would eventually break them down. And if the speed did not get them eventually free kicks would as outside of Wambach, they would be smaller at almost every position. You can usually resist either size or speed, but when both are against you, the odds are not in your favor when the skills are pretty close.How did Morgan answer the question?
She thought the U17 team would win because of the speed and strength, but pointed out that the women's team would be technically better.
good answer, she just got 10x hotter in my book.
 
USWNT v. Men's U17Who wins? This question was put to Alex Morgan on a radio show...
When the 1999 WWC US team practiced, they always chose regional U17 boys teams to scrimmage against. They regularly lost and that women's team was loaded. I think against a full US Men's U17 team, they would lose 8 out of 10, something like that, IMO. . The women have never played against speed like Rubio Rubin before.Skill wise the teams would not be all that different but the speed differential would eventually break them down. And if the speed did not get them eventually free kicks would as outside of Wambach, they would be smaller at almost every position. You can usually resist either size or speed, but when both are against you, the odds are not in your favor when the skills are pretty close.How did Morgan answer the question?
She thought the U17 team would win because of the speed and strength, but pointed out that the women's team would be technically better.
I think that was a very fair answer for her.
 
Big vote in Germany on Wednesday

A slightly snipped version:

Bundesliga to vote on stadium security proposals

German soccer fans have united in silent opposition to proposals to introduce tighter security in and around the stadiums. But in the face of increasing violence, Bundesliga clubs are under pressure to take action.

"We have to do everything possible to ensure that our football stadiums become safer places for the 99.5 percent of fans who are peaceful," said the president of the German Football Association (DFB), Wolfgang Niersbach, in the lead up to Wednesday's vote on new security measures.

This year again saw an increase in violence at Bundesliga and other German matches. In extreme cases, hundreds of fans stormed the pitch, forcing an interruption of the game.

...

Germany's most populous state, North Rhine-Westphalia, is home to more than a quarter of all professional Bundesliga clubs. At a time of budgetary constraints, the authorities there are keen to see the clubs pick up some of the policing tab.

"Our police devote almost one third of their time to football security issues which Bundesliga clubs refuse to deal with," according to North Rhine-Westphalia's interior minister, Ralf Jäger, who says the cost of police operations is spiralling out of control.

A fan is frisked by a security guard as he enters a German football stadium Security will be tighter at the gates

In response to comments like these from top politicians urging clubs to act, the German Football League (DFL), which operates the Bundesliga, and the national governing body (DFB) have come up with 16 proposals.

One of them would force clubs to pay for police operations and any damage done to police property on match days. There is also a plan to require clubs to send their own security personnel with traveling fans to keep an eye on potential troublemakers before, during and after road games - and help diffuse any trouble. Fan representatives from both teams are to be included in preparations well in advance of any given match.

Another important point on the agenda is the stricter enforcement of an existing zero-tolerance policy towards flares and fireworks inside stadiums. Fans defy the blanket ban on a regular basis, lighting up flares in tightly-packed standing areas, sometimes hurling them in the direction of the opponents' supporters or onto the pitch. To prevent such behavior in future, the clubs want to introduce video surveillance of the stands throughout matches and tougher controls at the stadium entrances.

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The new proposals include allowing clubs to reduce the number of tickets allocated to the visiting team's fans, currently at around 10 percent of total capacity. This and the possible reduction of standing areas are among the most contentious issues.

Fan organizations say supporters will have to foot the bill for heightened security, by virtue of increased ticket prices.

They argue that especially standing areas are vital so as not to exclude those who can't afford the high price of tickets in the seating areas - in other words those faithful grassroots fans who are the heart and soul of German fan culture.

A supporters' banner reads 12:12 - without a voice there is no atmosphere 12 minutes and 12 seconds of silence to protest restrictions

The security proposals, which are to be put to a vote on December 12, have prompted an unprecedented, nationwide fan response: The first 12 minutes and 12 seconds of all Bundesliga games on the last three matchdays were played in front of tens of thousands of silent supporters - a reference to the December 12 date.

The fans have protested with banners whose motto loosely translates as: "Without a voice, there's no atmosphere."

"Football fans fear they're being stigmatized in an unfair way,” said Volker Goll, the spokesperson for KOS, an organization that coordinates the various fan projects. He wants to see the clubs reach out more to the fans and include them in developing ideas for the future.

"I think we should ask why clubs and politicians don't make better use of the expertise of fan organizations,” Goll said.

In response to initial protests, fan clubs' suggestions were included in the paper that is to be voted on now. But this has not apeased all of them.

"If emotions cannot be expressed freely inside the stadium there is a real danger that bottled-up aggression will be released elsewhere in society," warned Goll, saying similar security steps Italy or England had not led to an improvement.

Instead, the German fans argue, Germany is the only country in Europe where everyone can still afford to buy a ticket to a top-flight match with good football and a breathtaking atmosphere. And that is what they hope to preserve.
 
Benny Fielhaber's rights were traded from the Revs to Sporting KC for allocation money, a first round pick in 2014 and a second round pick in 2015.

This works out for the Revs as they did not want him and they get a decent return.

I also like this move for KC who is loaded with young talent and would not have need for the draft picks too much. Roger Espinosa is rumored to be transferring to Wigan this winter which should open up a slot in the midfield for Benny. If Vermes can unlock Benny's technical skills and apply them to every day club soccer, he could be the missing ingredient to help them not only in MLS but in their first appearance in the CCL next year.

 
Corinthians beat Al Alhy 1-0 today to advance to the World Club Cup finals

They will meet the winners of the Chelsea Monterrey game tomorrow morning. Monterrey is reported to be with out their best player (and arguably one of the best club players in the hemisphere the last 6 years) Humberto Suazo.

 
'LHUCKS said:
It's a silly question. My HS team could take the USWNT.
Our HS team sucked, I'm quite certain they would smoke my HS. I'd like to see them go up against an average D1 squad. At the very least it would be interesting.
The overwhelming physical differences would run roughshod over any technical skill advantage. Considering how deep their defense would have to sit to counter the huge speed advantage how would they then deal with crosses into the box? I think people conflate the immaturity of HS with the physical attributes of seventeen and eighteen year-old men.
 
Have any ex-players here (or anyone in general, I guess) ever gotten a concussion playing soccer? Serious question.

During our co-ed game last night, my girlfriend had a collision with a guy who's quite literally probably 2x her weight - she was playing left back, he was their right back making a run forward, neither of them is any good/both seem pretty uncoordinated and kinda had an awkward collision, she somehow won the ball cleanly but he sorta barrelled into her; he fell to the ground, she didn't, it was a miracle.

After the game, she told me that for 4-5 minutes after the collision, her vision was slightly blurred. She had a dull headache for the rest of the night which has now persisted all day today. She says it's not super painful, but it's noticeable. I know that concussions are fairly common in the game, but I don't believe I've ever had one. I've played my entire life and I've never had my vision blurred/all-day headache from an on-field collision.

Anyone ever experience this? TIA

 
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Have any ex-players here (or anyone in general, I guess) ever gotten a concussion playing soccer? Serious question.During our co-ed game last night, my girlfriend had a collision with a guy who's quite literally probably 2x her weight - she was playing left back, he was their right back making a run forward, neither of them is any good/both seem pretty uncoordinated and kinda had an awkward collision, she somehow won the ball cleanly but he sorta barrelled into her; he fell to the ground, she didn't, it was a miracle.After the game, she told me that for 4-5 minutes after the collision, her vision was slightly blurred. She had a dull headache for the rest of the night which has now persisted all day today. She says it's not super painful, but it's noticeable. I know that concussions are fairly common in the game, but I don't believe I've ever had one. I've played my entire life and I've never had my vision blurred/all-day headache from an on-field collision.Anyone ever experience this? TIA
Too many times, unfortunately.If there isn't an obvious bruise, sounds like it's a concussion. Depending on the knock, can last for days. No grogginess or nausea?
 
Have any ex-players here (or anyone in general, I guess) ever gotten a concussion playing soccer? Serious question.During our co-ed game last night, my girlfriend had a collision with a guy who's quite literally probably 2x her weight - she was playing left back, he was their right back making a run forward, neither of them is any good/both seem pretty uncoordinated and kinda had an awkward collision, she somehow won the ball cleanly but he sorta barrelled into her; he fell to the ground, she didn't, it was a miracle.After the game, she told me that for 4-5 minutes after the collision, her vision was slightly blurred. She had a dull headache for the rest of the night which has now persisted all day today. She says it's not super painful, but it's noticeable. I know that concussions are fairly common in the game, but I don't believe I've ever had one. I've played my entire life and I've never had my vision blurred/all-day headache from an on-field collision.Anyone ever experience this? TIA
Yes. It's not always easy to diagnose a concussion, but I would definitely take her to a doctor. I've been knocked out cold and unable to remember my name two hours later and I've finished off an entire game only to realize I was likely concussed well after. You can't really take chances with brain injuries.
 
Have any ex-players here (or anyone in general, I guess) ever gotten a concussion playing soccer? Serious question.During our co-ed game last night, my girlfriend had a collision with a guy who's quite literally probably 2x her weight - she was playing left back, he was their right back making a run forward, neither of them is any good/both seem pretty uncoordinated and kinda had an awkward collision, she somehow won the ball cleanly but he sorta barrelled into her; he fell to the ground, she didn't, it was a miracle.After the game, she told me that for 4-5 minutes after the collision, her vision was slightly blurred. She had a dull headache for the rest of the night which has now persisted all day today. She says it's not super painful, but it's noticeable. I know that concussions are fairly common in the game, but I don't believe I've ever had one. I've played my entire life and I've never had my vision blurred/all-day headache from an on-field collision.Anyone ever experience this? TIA
Too many times, unfortunately.If there isn't an obvious bruise, sounds like it's a concussion. Depending on the knock, can last for days. No grogginess or nausea?
Played goalie in my pre-teen years on a horrible team. You know what that means. I had one concussion using my head to stop a shot. Had some issues for a couple days but nothing serious. The best day of my soccer life was our only victory in one season (tops my only goal on a PK as the goalie). I played out of my mind and clearly recall two or three of the saves that I never replicated again. I am not the type to regret but I should have forced my way into the goal in high school. I am short for the position but I had a knack I should have tapped dry. Maybe I was tired of all the bruises stopping point blank rockets.
 
Thanks for the responses, guys. I've had pretty much every inch of my body injured over the years, but thankfully not my head, so I can't help her on this one. Some of my teammates who I've texted throughout the day have similar thoughts to what you guys do.

No nausea, no memory loss, no overt grogginess but she says she has been much more tired than usual this afternoon. She said she was fine (slight headache) for most of the day and then sorta faded as the day went on. Still has the headache but it's bearable. She isn't going to the doctors, but she has a checkup next week so it's good timing for her to tell them what happened. She got home from work and has been in bed for the past 15 minutes or so.

She actually played through it and didn't leave the field. I don't know why.

 
Have any ex-players here (or anyone in general, I guess) ever gotten a concussion playing soccer? Serious question.During our co-ed game last night, my girlfriend had a collision with a guy who's quite literally probably 2x her weight - she was playing left back, he was their right back making a run forward, neither of them is any good/both seem pretty uncoordinated and kinda had an awkward collision, she somehow won the ball cleanly but he sorta barrelled into her; he fell to the ground, she didn't, it was a miracle.After the game, she told me that for 4-5 minutes after the collision, her vision was slightly blurred. She had a dull headache for the rest of the night which has now persisted all day today. She says it's not super painful, but it's noticeable. I know that concussions are fairly common in the game, but I don't believe I've ever had one. I've played my entire life and I've never had my vision blurred/all-day headache from an on-field collision.Anyone ever experience this? TIA
Got knocked out cold by a keeper's elbow once - I still don't remember driving myself to the hospital.
 
Have any ex-players here (or anyone in general, I guess) ever gotten a concussion playing soccer? Serious question.During our co-ed game last night, my girlfriend had a collision with a guy who's quite literally probably 2x her weight - she was playing left back, he was their right back making a run forward, neither of them is any good/both seem pretty uncoordinated and kinda had an awkward collision, she somehow won the ball cleanly but he sorta barrelled into her; he fell to the ground, she didn't, it was a miracle.After the game, she told me that for 4-5 minutes after the collision, her vision was slightly blurred. She had a dull headache for the rest of the night which has now persisted all day today. She says it's not super painful, but it's noticeable. I know that concussions are fairly common in the game, but I don't believe I've ever had one. I've played my entire life and I've never had my vision blurred/all-day headache from an on-field collision.Anyone ever experience this? TIA
Got knocked out cold by a keeper's elbow once - I still don't remember driving myself to the hospital.
This. Got knocked out in a college game via elbow to the cheekbone. Did not drive myself to the hospital, but had no recollection of the game as we were boarding the bus so we went on the way home. Coach wanted me to sit out the next game, but I talked my way into it.
 
'Sinn Fein said:
'((Morpheus)) said:
Have any ex-players here (or anyone in general, I guess) ever gotten a concussion playing soccer? Serious question.

During our co-ed game last night, my girlfriend had a collision with a guy who's quite literally probably 2x her weight - she was playing left back, he was their right back making a run forward, neither of them is any good/both seem pretty uncoordinated and kinda had an awkward collision, she somehow won the ball cleanly but he sorta barrelled into her; he fell to the ground, she didn't, it was a miracle.

After the game, she told me that for 4-5 minutes after the collision, her vision was slightly blurred. She had a dull headache for the rest of the night which has now persisted all day today. She says it's not super painful, but it's noticeable. I know that concussions are fairly common in the game, but I don't believe I've ever had one. I've played my entire life and I've never had my vision blurred/all-day headache from an on-field collision.

Anyone ever experience this? TIA
Got knocked out cold by a keeper's elbow once - I still don't remember driving myself to the hospital.
This. Got knocked out in a college game via elbow to the cheekbone. Did not drive myself to the hospital, but had no recollection of the game as we were boarding the bus so we went on the way home. Coach wanted me to sit out the next game, but I talked my way into it.
Strange... I remember all of mine vividly (caveat- only one was diagnosed a concussion... of course, the most recent one). 1. little league baseball practice fielding bunts. I was playing pitcher, 3rd base and I charge the ball- he gets it and hurls it from 4' away straight into my noggin. I remember the whole thing perfectly, even remember forgetting everything I brought to the field when my dad picked me up- including my bike)

2 & 3. Clash of heads going for a head ball (age 15 and 17)

4. Elbow to the head going up for head ball (18)

5. Hip to the head after I slide tackled from straight on in front (sophomore year college at West Point... nice heated floors in the away locker rooms). Only one where I passed out. as I tried to get back up to win the 2nd ball, everything slowed down to a stop when I was about a third of the way to standing and I knew I was about to go black. (and never go back).

For all of the above, I don't remember having any lingering affects- maybe a little on #5 on the busride back to the city with head-ache and general unsettledness.

6. Got doored on my bike 6 years ago. I was wearing my helmet and know I didn't hit my head hard on the impact with the street- it was the whiplash of my brain hitting the brain pan in the moment I hit the door before I went down. Flattened bike (by 2nd car which came this close to running me over), ambulance, headache for about a week, vertigo for 2 or 3 days, and maybe coincidentally or maybe not- hearing loss and lingering tinnitus. I've also noticed above average short term memory loss since that accident.

You should get your GF to move her appointment to this week. The brain isn't somthing to #### aroudn with.

 
Chelsea, fielding its best team surprisingly, beat Monterrey 3-1 to advance to WCC Finals against Corinthians.

I think there are more people on my street than attended this game. Having the whole tournament at a neutral site is not working but FIFA likely cares less as long as they get their suitcase of money from the hosts.

 
Bye bye Rafa. The second and third highest paid players (Rafa and Becks) are now out of league.

The New York Red Bulls announced today they have come to a mutual release agreement with defender Rafa Márquez.Per club regulations, specific terms of the deal were not disclosed.“This decision has been made in the best interests of both parties concerned,” said Red Bulls Sporting Director Andy Roxburgh. “Rafa has accomplished a great deal during his career and is a top quality player. We want to thank him for his service to the Red Bulls and wish him the best of luck in the next stage of his career.”Márquez signed with New York on Aug. 2, 2010 as a Designated Player, coming to Major League Soccer from FC Barcelona. In his two plus seasons with the club, Márquez appeared in 44 regular season games (42 of them starts) and notched one goal and nine assists. Last season, Márquez played in 15 matches and recorded three assists. He started in six playoff games during his time as a Red Bull.
 
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Bye bye Rafa. The second and third highest paid players (Rafa and Becks) are now out of league.

The New York Red Bulls announced today they have come to a mutual release agreement with defender Rafa Márquez.Per club regulations, specific terms of the deal were not disclosed.“This decision has been made in the best interests of both parties concerned,” said Red Bulls Sporting Director Andy Roxburgh. “Rafa has accomplished a great deal during his career and is a top quality player. We want to thank him for his service to the Red Bulls and wish him the best of luck in the next stage of his career.”Márquez signed with New York on Aug. 2, 2010 as a Designated Player, coming to Major League Soccer from FC Barcelona. In his two plus seasons with the club, Márquez appeared in 44 regular season games (42 of them starts) and notched one goal and nine assists. Last season, Márquez played in 15 matches and recorded three assists. He started in six playoff games during his time as a Red Bull.
Adios. Vaya con el dinero.
 
Jermaine Jones continues his Boy Scouts mannerisms picking up another extended suspension. This time he has been suspended for 4 games for being a serial killer err offender.

If the suspension gets through appeals, he will not play another club game before the US's first qualifier. It will be interesting to see if he ends up coming to the January camp (should they have one). He came to last years January camp when again serving a suspension.

 
Not sure if any one read about it and I'm just too lazy to go looking for any articles on it, but Sao Paolo won the Copa Sudamericana last night vs Tigres.

Welllllll, if you want to call it that :popcorn:

 
KC is having a good offseason. After trading for Benny, they were able to re-sign the MLS Defender of the Year in Besler who turned down Euro chances to re-up.

If KC can land the Argentine striker they are scouting, they are going to have a very nice CCL side this year.

As a side note, I am hopeful that Besler, along with Gonzo get a look from Klinsmann this year.

 

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