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[The Gator]

Listened to United/New Castle (4-3) and Tottenham/Villa (4-0) at the moment. Planning to watch the Liverpool/Stoke game that will end up being a 0-0 bore fest. Jesus I hate Stoke

 

[GoFishTN]

Watching Stoke sucks, but they get the results they want.

 

[guru_007]

Bet on Stoke today

You guys want to hear an interesting fact? Darren Gibson has only lost 4 premier league games in games he has started. And, you'll have to forgive me if I'm wrong here, as I am getting conflicting reports and don't feel like looking it up, but he has never lost a premier league game in which he has played a half of soccer for EFC. That's not too shabby.

 

[The Gator]

OMG A PENALTY

 

[GoFishTN]

What do we know?

 

[GoFishTN]

Who is this team and what have they done with Stoke?

 

[GoFishTN]

Who is this team and what have they done with Stoke?

 

[The Gator]

Well, at least it's not boring <_<

 

[The Gator]

MOVE TO THE ### #### BALL, SHELVEY.

 

[jonessed]

Who is this team and what have they done with Stoke?

They played a bit more expansive against Tottenham last week as well. The game was 0-0, but it wasn't a standard Stoke match.

 

[guru_007]

Bet on Stoke today

You guys want to hear an interesting fact? Darren Gibson has only lost 4 premier league games in games he has started. And, you'll have to forgive me if I'm wrong here, as I am getting conflicting reports and don't feel like looking it up, but he has never lost a premier league game in which he has played a half of soccer for EFC. That's not too shabby.

Stoke and Everton only two clubs in EPL not to have lost at home this year (yet).

 

[NewlyRetired]

Whom ever the US has who is responsible for bribing FIFA sucks at his job.



Grant Wahl (@GrantWahl)

12/26/12, 5:49 PM

Special 16-team 2016 Copa América in US did not get put on FIFA calendar recently as organizers hoped. Source-"50-50 chance" it will happen.

 

[The Z Machine]

Whom ever the US has who is responsible for bribing FIFA sucks at his job. Grant Wahl (@GrantWahl)12/26/12, 5:49 PMSpecial 16-team 2016 Copa América in US did not get put on FIFA calendar recently as organizers hoped. Source-"50-50 chance" it will happen.

Idiots.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Bayern and Barca are both around -5000 to win their respective leagues. PSG and Juve are in the -600 to -700 range. Man U is -250 to -275.

Not shaping up to be that dramatic of a new year, at least as far as league titles go.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Cardiff City is now 5 points clear at the top of the Championship table. If they get promoted will this be the first time ever that 2 teams from Wales were in the EPL?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Didn't see this in the recent thread, so sorry if Honda. But BEIN TV is now on Ch 726 in DC area -- replacing Gol TV.

 

[Ursa M]

Cardiff City is now 5 points clear at the top of the Championship table. If they get promoted will this be the first time ever that 2 teams from Wales were in the EPL?

Yes. It's unusual for there to be one in the top division, never mind two.

 

[Sebowski]

Didn't see this in the recent thread, so sorry if Honda. But BEIN TV is now on Ch 726 in DC area -- replacing Gol TV.

What cable company? Or Verizon, ATT....

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Didn't see this in the recent thread, so sorry if Honda. But BEIN TV is now on Ch 726 in DC area -- replacing Gol TV.

What cable company? Or Verizon, ATT....

Comcast

 

[NewlyRetired]

For those that like a small glimpse of the future, this is an interesting selection by Ives for his best U23 US team.

====================

Under-23 Team of the Year

GK- Bill Hamid, Sean Johnson, Zac MacMath

D- Timmy Chandler, Kofi Sarkodie, Matt Hedges, Amobi Okugo, John Anthony Brooks, Tommy Meyer, Sheanon Williams, Connor Lade

M- Danny Williams, Mix Diskerud, Josh Gatt, Joe Corona, Perry Kitchen, Nick DeLeon, Luis Silva, Luis Gil, Kelyn Rowe

F- Terrence Boyd, Jozy Altidore, Will Bruin, Jack McInerney

All-American Under-23 Best XI

FIRST TEAM

————–Altidore————Boyd——————-

—-Gatt————-Diskerud———–Corona——

———————D. Williams————————–

Chandler—-Hedges———Okugo—–S. Williams

———————–Hamid—————————–

SECOND TEAM

————–Bruin—————–McInerney————–

——-Rowe————-Gil—————-DeLeon———

————————Kitchen——————————

Lade——–Brooks—————-Meyer——–Sarkodie

————————Johnson——————————

MISSED THE CUT

Freddy Adu, Juan Agudelo, Teal Bunbury, Tony Cascio, Danny Cruz, Ray Gaddis, Greg Garza, Ryan Meara, Brek Shea, Andrew Wooten.

NOTE- Luis Silva missed the age cutoff by a few days. He was replaced on the second team by Kelyn Rowe, who was already on the 23-player roster. Zac MacMath was added to the 23-player roster.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

For those that like a small glimpse of the future, this is an interesting selection by Ives for his best U23 US team. ====================Under-23 Team of the YearGK- Bill Hamid, Sean Johnson, Zac MacMathD- Timmy Chandler, Kofi Sarkodie, Matt Hedges, Amobi Okugo, John Anthony Brooks, Tommy Meyer, Sheanon Williams, Connor LadeM- Danny Williams, Mix Diskerud, Josh Gatt, Joe Corona, Perry Kitchen, Nick DeLeon, Luis Silva, Luis Gil, Kelyn RoweF- Terrence Boyd, Jozy Altidore, Will Bruin, Jack McInerneyAll-American Under-23 Best XIFIRST TEAM————–Altidore————Boyd——————-—-Gatt————-Diskerud———–Corona—————————D. Williams————————–Chandler—-Hedges———Okugo—–S. Williams———————–Hamid—————————–SECOND TEAM————–Bruin—————–McInerney————–——-Rowe————-Gil—————-DeLeon———————————Kitchen——————————Lade——–Brooks—————-Meyer——–Sarkodie————————Johnson——————————MISSED THE CUTFreddy Adu, Juan Agudelo, Teal Bunbury, Tony Cascio, Danny Cruz, Ray Gaddis, Greg Garza, Ryan Meara, Brek Shea, Andrew Wooten.NOTE- Luis Silva missed the age cutoff by a few days. He was replaced on the second team by Kelyn Rowe, who was already on the 23-player roster. Zac MacMath was added to the 23-player roster.

7 Union players between the 23 man roster and the missed the cut section. Glad to see Gaddis get a mention, he's raw still but he filled in nicely at RB at various points of the season. Danny Cruz? Yeah, I'm not seeing it. Hustles but is IMO technically very poor, which in MLS is saying something.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Shin Guardian tweeted yesterday that Freddy Adu is a month older than Gareth Bale.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Didn't see this in the recent thread, so sorry if Honda. But BEIN TV is now on Ch 726 in DC area -- replacing Gol TV.

What cable company? Or Verizon, ATT....

Comcast

Unfortunately it doesn't look like the HD beIN was added

 

[NewlyRetired]

For those that like a small glimpse of the future, this is an interesting selection by Ives for his best U23 US team. ====================Under-23 Team of the YearGK- Bill Hamid, Sean Johnson, Zac MacMathD- Timmy Chandler, Kofi Sarkodie, Matt Hedges, Amobi Okugo, John Anthony Brooks, Tommy Meyer, Sheanon Williams, Connor LadeM- Danny Williams, Mix Diskerud, Josh Gatt, Joe Corona, Perry Kitchen, Nick DeLeon, Luis Silva, Luis Gil, Kelyn RoweF- Terrence Boyd, Jozy Altidore, Will Bruin, Jack McInerneyAll-American Under-23 Best XIFIRST TEAM————–Altidore————Boyd——————-—-Gatt————-Diskerud———–Corona—————————D. Williams————————–Chandler—-Hedges———Okugo—–S. Williams———————–Hamid—————————–SECOND TEAM————–Bruin—————–McInerney————–——-Rowe————-Gil—————-DeLeon———————————Kitchen——————————Lade——–Brooks—————-Meyer——–Sarkodie————————Johnson——————————MISSED THE CUTFreddy Adu, Juan Agudelo, Teal Bunbury, Tony Cascio, Danny Cruz, Ray Gaddis, Greg Garza, Ryan Meara, Brek Shea, Andrew Wooten.NOTE- Luis Silva missed the age cutoff by a few days. He was replaced on the second team by Kelyn Rowe, who was already on the 23-player roster. Zac MacMath was added to the 23-player roster.

7 Union players between the 23 man roster and the missed the cut section. Glad to see Gaddis get a mention, he's raw still but he filled in nicely at RB at various points of the season. Danny Cruz? Yeah, I'm not seeing it. Hustles but is IMO technically very poor, which in MLS is saying something.

I need to see much more of Joe Benny play. People are very high on him but from the few games I saw him play I was not wowed. I am also not a Will Bruin fan. I give him credit for getting every last ounce of ability of out his Connor Casey like skill set but god I hope Agudelo improves because he has so much more to offer than a player like Bruin. Keepers also scare the heck out of me here. Luckily they have some time to mature. 16 months ago or so, if someone had made an U23 list where Brek Shea missed the cut, I think no one would have believed it, but it is probably fair. It is amazing how much different that U23 team is from the one that failed to qualify for the Olympics. I am surprised that Joe Gyau does not show up anywhere on the list, even in the "missed the cut" section.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Didn't see this in the recent thread, so sorry if Honda. But BEIN TV is now on Ch 726 in DC area -- replacing Gol TV.

What cable company? Or Verizon, ATT....

Comcast

Unfortunately it doesn't look like the HD beIN was added

Actually missed that. HD is pretty well wasted when you have toddler sludge applied to the screen every few days.

 

[The Gator]

Not saying he won't sign. Saying he sucks. How do you want to quantify that?

Goals

In. Talking Sturridge, Cletius.

Who wants to set the O/U on goals in 2013? GPJ?

bump

 

[NewlyRetired]

Wahl tweeted yesterday that both Portland and Seattle are willing to put down grass for the June time qualifiers. Although he then further mentioned Seattle might have issues concerning a scheduling conflict with the University of Washington graduation.

The two home June qualifiers are against Panama and Honduras.

Panama can be put anywhere but Honduras would be perfect for the Pacific NW.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Eddie Johnson mentioned on his twitter that he has been called into the January camp.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/blog/post/2012/12/27/sounders-eddie-johnson-spills-usmnt-beansagain

 

[The Z Machine]

I think EJ has earned it. Plus both Altidore and Torres haven't lit the world on fire (these are the two positions that EJ has played effectively for the USMNT)

 

[NewlyRetired]

I think EJ has earned it. Plus both Altidore and Torres haven't lit the world on fire (these are the two positions that EJ has played effectively for the USMNT)

I figure he was a lock for the January camp since it will be full of players who will not play against Honduras. Hopefully he performs well and gets the call for the qualifier. ESPN2 will be showing the US Canada friendly which will I believe end the January camp.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Not saying he won't sign. Saying he sucks. How do you want to quantify that?

Goals

In. Talking Sturridge, Cletius.

Who wants to set the O/U on goals in 2013? GPJ?

bump

Would Sturridge be playing alongside Suarez in a 4-3-3? I assume he'd be getting a lot of first team action.If we just count league games, for the calendar year of 2013 and assuming he gets transferred, maybe 9?

 

[The Gator]

Would Sturridge be playing alongside Suarez in a 4-3-3? I assume he'd be getting a lot of first team action.

Yes, I believe he'll be playing CF in teh 4-3-3

If we just count league games, for the calendar year of 2013 and assuming he gets transferred, maybe 9?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4715437/Lionel-Messi-turns-down-460000-a-week-offer-to-leave-Barcelona.html

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Not saying he won't sign. Saying he sucks. How do you want to quantify that?

Goals

In. Talking Sturridge, Cletius.

Who wants to set the O/U on goals in 2013? GPJ?

bump

Would Sturridge be playing alongside Suarez in a 4-3-3? I assume he'd be getting a lot of first team action.If we just count league games, for the calendar year of 2013 and assuming he gets transferred, maybe 9?

I'll take the over, excepting significant injury.

 

[NewlyRetired]

From Soccer America

2012 Top 20 U.S. crowds

ATT. GAME

84,519 1. Mexico-Brazil (friendly) in Arlington, Texas

81,994 2. Argentina-Brazil (friendly) in East Rutherford, N.J.

67,619 3. USA-Brazil (friendly) in Landover, Md.

66,452 4. Seattle Sounders-Portland Timbers (MLS)

60,908 5. Seattle Sounders-Los Angeles Galaxy (MLS)

57,748 6. Chelsea-AC Milan (friendly) in Miami

55,718 7. Seattle Sounders-Vancouver Whitecaps (MLS)

53,309 8. Seattle Sounders-Chelsea (friendly)

51,615 9. Mexico-Colombia (friendly) in Miami

51,240 10. Mexico-Bosnia (friendly) in Chicago

50,391 11. San Jose Earthquakes-LA Galaxy (MLS) in Stanford, Calif.

49,474 12. Real Madrid-AC Milan (friendly) in Bronx, N.Y.

46,932 13. Seattle Sounders- Sporting KC (MLS)

44,735 14. Seattle Sounders-LA Galaxy (MLS playoffs)

44,438 15. USA-Scotland (friendly) in Jacksonville, Fla.

42,273 16. Liverpool-Tottenham (friendly) in Baltimore

40,128 17. Mexico-Venezuela (friendly) in Houston

39,312 18. Seattle Sounders-Real Salt Lake (MLS)

39,060 19. Seattle Sounders-Colorado Rapids (MLS)

39,002 20. Seattle Sounders-LA Galaxy (MLS)

 

[The Z Machine]

Only 9 of the top 20 were competitive matches. The USA has an appetite for top quality football, that's been proven here.

 

[Ursa M]

!http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4715437/Lionel-Messi-turns-down-460000-a-week-offer-to-leave-Barcelona.html

Let's see.......Barcelona and it's infinite variety of entertainment and excellent weather, adoring colossal crowds at every game, already got more money than God versus packing up the family to play at some godforsaken craphole in Russia?Hmmmmmm. Not difficult.

 

[The Gator]

Nice blog article on another Liverpool target, Tom Ince-

http://www.tangerinedreaming.com/tom-ince-the-lowdown/

 

[Ursa M]

Nice blog article on another Liverpool target, Tom Ince-http://www.tangerinedreaming.com/tom-ince-the-lowdown/

Interesting that he came from Liverpool in the first place:

Tom Ince (20) signed for Blackpool from Liverpool in the summer of 2011 and in just over a year he has grown with each game he has played and is now one of Blackpool’s key attacking weapons. In his first season he scored 8 goals and made 8 assists in 41 appearances. This season he already has 13 goals, 9 assists in 20 league appearances.

I suspect Liverpool will have to fork over a lot more than they received for him just 18 months ago.

 

[GoFishTN]

Nice blog article on another Liverpool target, Tom Ince-http://www.tangerinedreaming.com/tom-ince-the-lowdown/

Interesting that he came from Liverpool in the first place:

Tom Ince (20) signed for Blackpool from Liverpool in the summer of 2011 and in just over a year he has grown with each game he has played and is now one of Blackpool’s key attacking weapons. In his first season he scored 8 goals and made 8 assists in 41 appearances. This season he already has 13 goals, 9 assists in 20 league appearances.

I suspect Liverpool will have to fork over a lot more than they received for him just 18 months ago.

The comments indicate Liverpool has a 35% sell on fee, so that will save them some off the top.

 

[The Gator]

Nice blog article on another Liverpool target, Tom Ince-http://www.tangerinedreaming.com/tom-ince-the-lowdown/

Interesting that he came from Liverpool in the first place:

Tom Ince (20) signed for Blackpool from Liverpool in the summer of 2011 and in just over a year he has grown with each game he has played and is now one of Blackpool’s key attacking weapons. In his first season he scored 8 goals and made 8 assists in 41 appearances. This season he already has 13 goals, 9 assists in 20 league appearances.

I suspect Liverpool will have to fork over a lot more than they received for him just 18 months ago.

The comments indicate Liverpool has a 35% sell on fee, so that will save them some off the top.

CorrectIt seems to be a wierdish loan deal. Sold him with buy back(not 100% sure on this one, speculation) / sell on clauses attached. He REALLY wanted first team game time but Dalglish wasn't having any of it. Ince rejected Liverpool's contract offer(would have been highest paid non-first team player) and was sold. So he wasn't sold just to sell and then now being brought back in.

 

[El Floppo]

Didnt read the link... is this Ince's son?

 

[The Gator]

yes

 

[Good Posting Judge]

!http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4715437/Lionel-Messi-turns-down-460000-a-week-offer-to-leave-Barcelona.html

Let's see.......Barcelona and it's infinite variety of entertainment and excellent weather, adoring colossal crowds at every game, already got more money than God versus packing up the family to play at some godforsaken craphole in Russia?Hmmmmmm. Not difficult.

Yeah, I think way more money was the only thing that Anzhi offered. And Barca re-signed Messi to a new deal, which gets him closer to that. Cheeky, though. Very cheeky.

 

[The Gator]

My link

That graphic is incorrect in regards to "inside the box" "outside the box", right?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

My link

That graphic is incorrect in regards to "inside the box" "outside the box", right?

Yes.

 

[Steve Tasker]

It's just silly how good Robin van Persie is. The fact that he can get such power and movement on the ball in that situation...truly a testament that he's one of the world's best.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Theo!!

 

[jonessed]

How does a linesman miss someone a yard offsides in the middle of the field?

The tight ones with obstruction are tough, but you have to get the easy ones.

 

[The Gator]

Bale looked aghast at the official's decision which means all of his five cautions this season have been for diving – more than any other player in the Premier League.