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The Kansas Comet
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This. Losing Thiago isn't great, but Barcelona got a decent chunk of change for him. They have plenty of midfield options and not many needs, while they have far too few defensive options and a ton of needs. They need to get an excellent defender, period.
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Footballguy
I'm upset that Barca's front office has bungled this so badly. You can't offer something like this and then not pay attention and make sure it doesn't happen. Or alter the clause to account for games that he missed because of injury.
And as helpful as that money will be, they could've just sold him outright for more and fetched a higher price if not for the clause.
At least it wasn't RM, that's the only sliver lining.
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Bonzai
Footballguy
I don't get it. My opinion is admittedly skewed, but I just don't see why he'd choose Bayern over United (even though the German in me does make me sympathetic to Bayern). If playing time was his biggest motivator for moving, how does BM make sense for him? I remember wondering where Gotze would fit in, but now Thiago too? Makes me think that Pep is really going to shake up the formation at BM.
Ribery
Robben
Schweinsteiger
Muller
Gotze
Martinez
Kroos
Gustavo
Shaqiri
I guess I'd rate him above Kroos? If he goes with something like this then I guess he'd only be in competition with Kroos and Gotze?
Ribery = Messi
Robben = Sanchez
Schweinsteiger = Keita (usually Busquets' spot)
Muller = Iniesta
Gotze = Fab
Martinez = CB
Kroos = Xavi
I guess he sees Kroos on the bench with Thiago in Xavi's spot. Not sure where that leaves Mandzukic either. I'm sure he'll switch things up now and then with all the games they'll be playing. I guess it makes sense. Still, at United he'd be a focal point, day in day out starter. Oh well.
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Footballguy
Martinez is moving to CB and Thiago's apparently going to be a deep-lying MF, although that creates a glut at CB: Martinez, Dante, Badstuber, Boateng, and then old Van Buyten.
That still leaves Mandzukic, Kroos, Alcantara, Muller, Gotze, Ribery, Robben and Shaqiri for 5 spots. But with three subs, all 8 can see action in any given game. Or maybe they bring in a CB and move Martinez back to his DM role when they're trying to protect a lead (although I never remember that being Pep's style).
Bayern's going to have a lot of games next year,so I guess it's good they have a bit of depth.
That still leaves Mandzukic, Kroos, Alcantara, Muller, Gotze, Ribery, Robben and Shaqiri for 5 spots. But with three subs, all 8 can see action in any given game. Or maybe they bring in a CB and move Martinez back to his DM role when they're trying to protect a lead (although I never remember that being Pep's style).
Bayern's going to have a lot of games next year,so I guess it's good they have a bit of depth.
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Footballguy
As for Bayern > United, I imagine Pep was a deciding factor. Or maybe he wants a better crack at winning the UCL.
Important to remember that Pep's brother is Thiago's agent. He probably came up with that idea.
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Footballguy
Pretty sly move really. I wonder if that is why he is muddying the water in the press.
Bonzai
Footballguy
Theres also that Schweinsteiger guy. The more I look this over, I think that Muller might be the odd man out. That would really suck.Martinez is moving to CB and Thiago's apparently going to be a deep-lying MF, although that creates a glut at CB: Martinez, Dante, Badstuber, Boateng, and then old Van Buyten.
That still leaves Mandzukic, Kroos, Alcantara, Muller, Gotze, Ribery, Robben and Shaqiri for 5 spots. But with three subs, all 8 can see action in any given game. Or maybe they bring in a CB and move Martinez back to his DM role when they're trying to protect a lead (although I never remember that being Pep's style).
Bayern's going to have a lot of games next year,so I guess it's good they have a bit of depth.
Bonzai
Footballguy
As far as the CBs go, Dante seems like he would fit really well with Pep's style. He's good on the ball for a defender. I'd think that Van Buyten would be too slow if they wanted to play a high line. Poor Badstuber's knees are wrecked. I guess it makes sense to move Martinez back there.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
I'm just sitting back waiting to see how this works out. This past season with Bayern winning the Triple, they played 34 league matches, 13 CL matches, 6 DFB Pokal matches and the DFL Super Cup. That's 54. If they are to attempt that again they would have the same number of matches plus the UEFA Super Cup, the Club World Cup and the vast majority of their players playing in WC Qualifiers.
The depth will be needed. It all kicks off on July 27th against Dortmund (again) in Dortmund for the DFL Super Cup.
The depth will be needed. It all kicks off on July 27th against Dortmund (again) in Dortmund for the DFL Super Cup.
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Footballguy
PRETTY FUCKING GOOD, I'D SAY.
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The Gator
Footballguy
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
no wayThey wouldn't lock a 1134 page thread would they?
-QG
if the beer thread can be used to store porn links, a few bad words will be fine here
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I'd really like to see Muller as the striker. His ability to find space would allow him to play like a false nine, but he can also provide a physical presence.Bonzai said:Theres also that Schweinsteiger guy. The more I look this over, I think that Muller might be the odd man out. That would really suck.Good Posting Judge said:Martinez is moving to CB and Thiago's apparently going to be a deep-lying MF, although that creates a glut at CB: Martinez, Dante, Badstuber, Boateng, and then old Van Buyten.
That still leaves Mandzukic, Kroos, Alcantara, Muller, Gotze, Ribery, Robben and Shaqiri for 5 spots. But with three subs, all 8 can see action in any given game. Or maybe they bring in a CB and move Martinez back to his DM role when they're trying to protect a lead (although I never remember that being Pep's style).
Bayern's going to have a lot of games next year,so I guess it's good they have a bit of depth.
Of course, from what I've read that's not the plan.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Okay the scenarios for the quarters are pretty straightforward.
Martinique gets the last spot unless the Cuba/Belize winner wins by 4 or more.
Qualified teams:
Panama is A1, Mexico is A2
Honduras is B1, T&T is B2, El Salvador is B3
US is C1 with win or tie. C2 with loss
CR is C1 with win. C2 with loss or tie.
Matchups:
Mexico vs T&T
Panama vs El Salvador or Cuba or Belize
winners of these 2 meet in the semis.
Honduras vs US or Costa Rica
US or Costa Rica vs El Salvador or Martinique
winners of these 2 meet in the semis.
So there you go
-QG
Martinique gets the last spot unless the Cuba/Belize winner wins by 4 or more.
Qualified teams:
Panama is A1, Mexico is A2
Honduras is B1, T&T is B2, El Salvador is B3
US is C1 with win or tie. C2 with loss
CR is C1 with win. C2 with loss or tie.
Matchups:
Mexico vs T&T
Panama vs El Salvador or Cuba or Belize
winners of these 2 meet in the semis.
Honduras vs US or Costa Rica
US or Costa Rica vs El Salvador or Martinique
winners of these 2 meet in the semis.
So there you go
-QG
Sebowski
Footballguy
Gods work as usual, QGOkay the scenarios for the quarters are pretty straightforward.
Martinique gets the last spot unless the Cuba/Belize winner wins by 4 or more.
Qualified teams:
Panama is A1, Mexico is A2
Honduras is B1, T&T is B2, El Salvador is B3
US is C1 with win or tie. C2 with loss
CR is C1 with win. C2 with loss or tie.
Matchups:
Mexico vs T&T
Panama vs El Salvador or Cuba or Belize
winners of these 2 meet in the semis.
Honduras vs US or Costa Rica
US or Costa Rica vs El Salvador or Martinique
winners of these 2 meet in the semis.
So there you go
-QG
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Footballguy
I saw NR in another thread. :(
The Gator
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
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The Gator
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Tasker is my guess
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
F'n Tasker.
NR follows the thread, but does not participate. This is pretty much the only thread that doesn't piss me off, but different strokes.
Bonzai
Footballguy
I remember poking at him on another board. I'm not sure I post regularly enough for that to matter though.
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Footballguy
Barca extend Busquets through 2018, and learn their lesson with a 150mm buyout clause. 
It also sounds like Cavani might be presented by PSG today, and they're also close to Marquinhos.
It also sounds like Cavani might be presented by PSG today, and they're also close to Marquinhos.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Almost all La Liga contracts, including Thiago's, have a standard gigantic buyout clause.Barca extend Busquets through 2018, and learn their lesson with a 150mm buyout clause.
It also sounds like Cavani might be presented by PSG today, and they're also close to Marquinhos.
Thiago's contract had a second buy out clause that was inserted relating to the playing time.
Option for another year as well. Great news.Barca extend Busquets through 2018, and learn their lesson with a 150mm buyout clause.
Sebowski
Footballguy
Some cool stats from socceroverthere.com
* With the win, the US has now won seven in a row, tying the longest winning streak in the USMNT history. The US also won seven in a row in 2007, which overlapped with them winning the 2007 Gold Cup. The teams they beat during the streak in 2007: China, Guatemala, Trinidad & Tobago, El Salvador, Panama, Canada and Mexico.
* The seven-game winning streak is also the longest active streak in the world among teams ranked in the FIFA Top 25.
* The US has now scored 4+ goals in three straight games for the first time ever. The US has also scored 16 goals over its last three games, tying the record for most goals scored over a three-game span (also done in 1993).
* With the win, the US is now 27-1-2 all-time in the Gold Cup group phase.
* The US came back from a 1-0 deficit to beat Cuba on Saturday. It was only the third time in 10 all-time meetings that the US has trailed against Cuba. The US fell behind 1-0 to Cuba in a 2005 Gold Cup match before coming back to win by the score of 4-1 as well. And the US also trailed and lost to Cuba, 5-2, in 1947.
* Chris Wondolowski has been the MVP for the US through two games of the tournament. In fact, his five goals through two games is already the most goals scored by an American in a single Gold Cup.
* Wondo has now scored six goals over his last three games after failing to score goal in his first nine career games with the USMNT.
* Including his goal against Guatemala, Wondo has scored six goals in 2013. Since 1991, scoring 6+ goals in a calendar year has happened only 15 times (including Wondo in 2013) and he has done it in only four games.
* Landon Donovan has also done well in recent games. Besides becoming the first player in USMNT history with 50+ goals or 50+ assists, he scored his 15th career goal at the Gold Cup on Saturday, extending his own record.
* And this one comes from Paul Carr of ESPN, if you just take his 15 career penalty goals, those would be tied for the 10th most in USMNT history.
* Donovan has scored four goals in 2013, his most in a calendar year since he scored five in 2009. And he has scored a goal in three straight games for the first time since the 2010 World Cup.
* Should Donovan or Wondo score again in the next game, they would tie the US record for goals in consecutive games at four straight, something Jozy Altidore matched (and his streak is still active until he plays again) earlier this year. Donovan has scored in four straight games twice before, once in 2005 and another streak in 2007.
T Bell
Footballguy
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Yeah for a game with "nothing" on the line (except a little bit easier road in the knock-out rounds) I think this is going to be some spirited high-octane stuff today
-QG
T Bell
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
JKWhose answer was that?
Anyone know how to say 'bulletin board' in German?
T Bell
Footballguy
Gotta love the unapologetic Teutonic directness.JK
Anyone know how to say 'bulletin board' in German?
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