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GoFishTN said:
This will probably force Arsenal to spend, unfortunately.
I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Who are they going to buy at this point that will a) satisfy the fanbase and b) actually help them? Looks like a recipe to overspend to me, but I'm not sure Wenger will do it.

 
GoFishTN said:
This will probably force Arsenal to spend, unfortunately.
I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Who are they going to buy at this point that will a) satisfy the fanbase and b) actually help them? Looks like a recipe to overspend to me, but I'm not sure Wenger will do it.
Well, I know we make much ado about Wenger the stingy economist, but it's not his money that he's spending. If it comes down to taking a flyer on a guy and maybe overspending in an effort to save your job, I think he might pull the trigger.

Of course, I'm not sure his job is really in jeopardy anyway,

Also, I'm drunk, so this may make way more sense in my head than it does typed out.

 
GoFishTN said:
This will probably force Arsenal to spend, unfortunately.
I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Who are they going to buy at this point that will a) satisfy the fanbase and b) actually help them? Looks like a recipe to overspend to me, but I'm not sure Wenger will do it.
Well, I know we make much ado about Wenger the stingy economist, but it's not his money that he's spending. If it comes down to taking a flyer on a guy and maybe overspending in an effort to save your job, I think he might pull the trigger.

Of course, I'm not sure his job is really in jeopardy anyway,

Also, I'm drunk, so this may make way more sense in my head than it does typed out.
Unless Gazidis outright lied about the money available, the problem certainly rests with Wenger.

I won't fault any club for failing to make one deal or another - every club tries and fails at certain players. But to go through an entire summer and not address any of multiple needs when you've got 70M GBP at your disposal is ridiculous. After today's injuries, they can't even field a complete first team! It's surreal.

Amazingly, I believe they can get every area of need filled between now and the end of August aside from a top striker. It will take time for everyone to settle in, but they can still improve in most of the ways they'd need to.

Let me be clear though - there's no way they'll be challenging for the league. They're playing for 4th place again. Unbelievable, but it's true.

 
GoFishTN said:
This will probably force Arsenal to spend, unfortunately.
I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Who are they going to buy at this point that will a) satisfy the fanbase and b) actually help them? Looks like a recipe to overspend to me, but I'm not sure Wenger will do it.
Well, I know we make much ado about Wenger the stingy economist, but it's not his money that he's spending. If it comes down to taking a flyer on a guy and maybe overspending in an effort to save your job, I think he might pull the trigger.

Of course, I'm not sure his job is really in jeopardy anyway,

Also, I'm drunk, so this may make way more sense in my head than it does typed out.
Unless Gazidis outright lied about the money available, the problem certainly rests with Wenger.

I won't fault any club for failing to make one deal or another - every club tries and fails at certain players. But to go through an entire summer and not address any of multiple needs when you've got 70M GBP at your disposal is ridiculous. After today's injuries, they can't even field a complete first team! It's surreal.

Amazingly, I believe they can get every area of need filled between now and the end of August aside from a top striker. It will take time for everyone to settle in, but they can still improve in most of the ways they'd need to.

Let me be clear though - there's no way they'll be challenging for the league. They're playing for 4th place again. Unbelievable, but it's true.
Players are available. Players are always available. Arsenal don't need world-class players to compete for the top 4, I don't think. I'm not going to crucify Wenger yet because he's consistently gotten more from his talent than anyone other than SAF.

I was hanging out with a few friends this afternoon, one of whom is a Spurs fan. He spent about 10 minutes trying to convince me that Spurs will challenge for the league title this season. I think they'll finish ahead of Arsenal, but challenge for the league? I'll believe it when I see it. There are 3 teams competing for the title. The rest are just competing for the last UCL spot.

 
Anyone know what's the record for the most London clubs in the English top flight in the same season?

Since I've been watching I know of...

Chelsea

Arsenal

Tottenham

Fulham

West Ham

QPR

Palace

Charlton

Wimbledon

But I don't think more than six have been up at the same time. Am I forgetting any London teams? Is six really the max number?

 
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Anyone know what's the record for the most London clubs in the English top flight in the same season?

Since I've been watching I know of...

Chelsea

Arsenal

Tottenham

Fulham

West Ham

QPR

Palace

Charlton

Wimbledon

But I don't think more than six have been up at the same time. Am I forgetting any London teams? Is six really the max number?
I don't know for sure, but 5-6 at any given time seems like the maximum.

 
Anyone know what's the record for the most London clubs in the English top flight in the same season?

Since I've been watching I know of...

Chelsea

Arsenal

Tottenham

Fulham

West Ham

QPR

Palace

Charlton

Wimbledon

But I don't think more than six have been up at the same time. Am I forgetting any London teams? Is six really the max number?
There were a couple years in the late 80s when Millwall was up and Chelsea was in the Championship.

 
Really impressed with Broadway Danny Rose. Like an Ashley Cole starter kit (minus the douchiness).
He and Walker make a dangeorus duo down the flanks for Spurs. Will be interesting if they bring in Contraero as part of the Bale deal - dont really think they need him as much as a healthy, competent CB.

In attack Nacer Chadli and Lennon both looked dangerous moving forward. However, still dont see Soldado as the game changer many are expecting. Small sample size yes, but he today he didnt seem to help in the build-up as much as Spurs need to get them in positions to score.

 
Mata and Luiz on the bench. Neither featured much for Chelsea in the preseason either. Injuries have been hinted but never validated.

:unsure:

 
Anyone know what's the record for the most London clubs in the English top flight in the same season?

Since I've been watching I know of...

Chelsea

Arsenal

Tottenham

Fulham

West Ham

QPR

Palace

Charlton

Wimbledon

But I don't think more than six have been up at the same time. Am I forgetting any London teams? Is six really the max number?
There were a couple years in the late 80s when Millwall was up and Chelsea was in the Championship.
Completely forgot about Millwall.

The only other London clubs of any note would be Bournemouth and Leyton-Orient, and I don't believe either of them have ever played in the top flight.

Watford's close by but not in London.

 
Anyone know what's the record for the most London clubs in the English top flight in the same season?

Since I've been watching I know of...

Chelsea

Arsenal

Tottenham

Fulham

West Ham

QPR

Palace

Charlton

Wimbledon

But I don't think more than six have been up at the same time. Am I forgetting any London teams? Is six really the max number?
There were a couple years in the late 80s when Millwall was up and Chelsea was in the Championship.
Completely forgot about Millwall.

The only other London clubs of any note would be Bournemouth and Leyton-Orient, and I don't believe either of them have ever played in the top flight.

Watford's close by but not in London.
I started following in the mid/late 90s. Wimbledon were still hanging around laying out the blueprint for Stoke, but I'm pretty sure Millwall were long gone.

 
I don't know if Hull is just really bad, but my god Chelsea's midfield is just silly good.
These three newly promoted teams are about the least prepared to succeed in the PL as a group that I can remember for quite sometime. Typically one or two new promotions will get relegated, but I fully expect all three of these to go.

 
Torres is going to be the only thing holding Chelse back this season. So much positive build-up in the final third that results in nothing due to poor touches and misstimed runs.

Hazard, Oscar, De Bruyne and Lampard looks tremendous.

 
Sure looks like they got the goal line tech stuff right. Really like the instantaneous call. Seems like the biggest problem will be if a ref reflexively signals goal on a close one before he gets the confirmation.

 
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This goal line technology is pretty cool. NFL can learn something from it.

Please god do not let the EPL let this slow down games with team Challenges, TV timeouts, split screens with the two coahces awiating the ruling. :rolleyes:

 
This goal line technology is pretty cool. NFL can learn something from it.

Please god do not let the EPL let this slow down games with team Challenges, TV timeouts, split screens with the two coahces awiating the ruling. :rolleyes:
I really can't watch the NFL much anymore after getting into the PL. The NFL feels like a game designed by lawyers. It's awful to watch. And I'm a lawyer BTW.

 
This goal line technology is pretty cool. NFL can learn something from it.

Please god do not let the EPL let this slow down games with team Challenges, TV timeouts, split screens with the two coahces awiating the ruling. :rolleyes:
I really can't watch the NFL much anymore after getting into the PL. The NFL feels like a game designed by lawyers. It's awful to watch. And I'm a lawyer BTW.
Yes. Lawyers. And advertisers who look for any reason to slow down the game and stick an ad.

 
This goal line technology is pretty cool. NFL can learn something from it.

Please god do not let the EPL let this slow down games with team Challenges, TV timeouts, split screens with the two coahces awiating the ruling. :rolleyes:
I really can't watch the NFL much anymore after getting into the PL. The NFL feels like a game designed by lawyers. It's awful to watch. And I'm a lawyer BTW.
NFL Redzone is the only way to watch the NFL.

 
Can someone explain why Lampard's goal was allowed to stand? 2 Chelsea players cleared out the wall like they were pulling guards on a sweep.

 
This goal line technology is pretty cool. NFL can learn something from it.

Please god do not let the EPL let this slow down games with team Challenges, TV timeouts, split screens with the two coahces awiating the ruling. :rolleyes:
I really can't watch the NFL much anymore after getting into the PL. The NFL feels like a game designed by lawyers. It's awful to watch. And I'm a lawyer BTW.
NFL Redzone is the only way to watch the NFL.
It is the best way, that's for sure.

I still like to watch full games if it is one I'm interested in.

 
This goal line technology is pretty cool. NFL can learn something from it.

Please god do not let the EPL let this slow down games with team Challenges, TV timeouts, split screens with the two coahces awiating the ruling. :rolleyes:
I really can't watch the NFL much anymore after getting into the PL. The NFL feels like a game designed by lawyers. It's awful to watch. And I'm a lawyer BTW.
Yes. Lawyers. And advertisers who look for any reason to slow down the game and stick an ad.
In soccer they just plaster ads on the screen the whole time. :shrug:

 
This goal line technology is pretty cool. NFL can learn something from it.

Please god do not let the EPL let this slow down games with team Challenges, TV timeouts, split screens with the two coahces awiating the ruling. :rolleyes:
I really can't watch the NFL much anymore after getting into the PL. The NFL feels like a game designed by lawyers. It's awful to watch. And I'm a lawyer BTW.
Yes. Lawyers. And advertisers who look for any reason to slow down the game and stick an ad.
In soccer they just plaster ads on the screen the whole time. :shrug:
My eyes have tuned them out and I just don't see them. Meanwhile the action doesn't stop.

 
They just reminded everyone that Messi scored 46 league goals last year. It's easy to take that for granted when you see him play all the time, but it's completely ridiculous.

From that table I posted earlier... 46 goals is 18 more than the most anyone's scored in a single season in England in the last five years (RVP and Drogba both on 28). That's crazy.

 
This goal line technology is pretty cool. NFL can learn something from it.

Please god do not let the EPL let this slow down games with team Challenges, TV timeouts, split screens with the two coahces awiating the ruling. :rolleyes:
I really can't watch the NFL much anymore after getting into the PL. The NFL feels like a game designed by lawyers. It's awful to watch. And I'm a lawyer BTW.
Yes. Lawyers. And advertisers who look for any reason to slow down the game and stick an ad.
In soccer they just plaster ads on the screen the whole time. :shrug:
My eyes have tuned them out and I just don't see them. Meanwhile the action doesn't stop.
They bug me, but I do like continuous action.

 
They just reminded everyone that Messi scored 46 league goals last year. It's easy to take that for granted when you see him play all the time, but it's completely ridiculous.

From that table I posted earlier... 46 goals is 18 more than the most anyone's scored in a single season in England in the last five years (RVP and Drogba both on 28). That's crazy.
Same total that Ronaldo had the year before....while Messi had 50.

 
2-0 loss at the EPL favorite and showed some fight and flashes in the 2nd half. There will be better days for Hull City. At least we didn't lose by 2 at home to Villa :)

-QG

 
Btw, Leyton Orient were in the top flight of English Soccer for exactly one season - 1962-63.

-QG

 
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