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QuizGuy66
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Spartans Rule
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Lamela seems like better value than Willian. He's younger and was more productive last season in a better league.
Probably neither of them are coming at great value because Spurs aren't in a good haggling position. They've got money to spend and need a strong Bale replacement ASAP.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
The FM player in me keeps shouting "Work ball into box" at the TV. So many wasteful shots in this match.
T Bell
Footballguy
A name that's not mentioned but who I thought was pretty good when Chelsea signed him a year ago is Marko Marin. He plays the left wing. He sort of disappeared at Chelsea, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything given that club.
Willian is reportedly overpriced by a lot by virtue of having gotten signed by oil rich Anzhi.
T Bell
Footballguy
The trouble is that you've got two top back lines as well as midfields that are hanging back, and in Chelsea's case they have nobody to really aim at up front. Both teams are determined not to give an opening here, which unfortunately doesn't make for much excitement.
Ref has been brutal in this match today.
United denied a clear penalty on a hand ball in the box.
And then Cole with a dive in the box, should have been given a card for embellishment for certain.
T Bell
Footballguy
I think it's been decent.
I think the non-call on Lampard's hand ball was correct. He was twisting out of the way and it was his back arm, which was far closer to his body than being extended.
I agree that Cole should have been booked though. That dive was blatant.
The only other non-call I would dispute was Rooney's late, flying tackle in the first half that brought Oscar down.
Eephus
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Most American fans of a European team follow a highly successful/Champions League-caliber team, you don't run into many people in the States who support Norwich or Getafe.
I doubt many Euros follow the Bobcats or the Bucks.
T Bell
Footballguy
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
I just enjoy the banter, but I also love it when Arsenal fans act like it doesn't bother them.I love it when Liverpool people argue this.
Eephus
Footballguy
Where were you 20 years ago?Most American fans of a European team follow a highly successful/Champions League-caliber team, you don't run into many people in the States who support Norwich or Getafe.
I doubt many Euros follow the Bobcats or the Bucks.
T Bell
Footballguy
You're just going off of what was officially awarded. It's not over yet.
Aaaaaaaaand they damn near get another full minute.
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QuizGuy66
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What gets me about that is Chelsea made a late substituion during injury time. The clock should basically stop at that point - no surprise that stoppage time went a minute extraYou're just going off of what was officially awarded. It's not over yet.
Aaaaaaaaand they damn near get another full minute.
-QG
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
I loved Mourinho's "I'm gonna catch it.............oops, I missed it" when the ball came bounding to him.What gets me about that is Chelsea made a late substituion during injury time. The clock should basically stop at that point - no surprise that stoppage time went a minute extraYou're just going off of what was officially awarded. It's not over yet.
Aaaaaaaaand they damn near get another full minute.
-QG
They coulda put 10 minutes added, no goals were coming in this one.
Decent game, with City losing yesterday, draw was certainly a huge possibility. Would have liked to have seen United get the three points, but happy enough to see Rooney play all 90....and hoping he is still on the team come September 3rd.
Very interesting to see a) no Mata and b) no striker for Chelsea
I thought the midfield for Chelsea would have more success against United's midfield (carrick slow, Cleverly inexperienced) and defense (Jones, disaster, Rio/Vidic not exactly fleet of foot), but United did well in that regard. Welbeck was underwhelming.
Disagree that the Lampard pk shouldn't have been called. Hand was well away from his body, don't care if he was spinning or not, it was not ball from body to hand, it was clear hand.
Stronger referee would have handled a number of incidents differently in this game. The ref has a job to do, do it. My opinion of the refereeing has not been limited to one game, it's been a number of games all over Europe. I guess it's still early in the year for the refs too.
Decent game, with City losing yesterday, draw was certainly a huge possibility. Would have liked to have seen United get the three points, but happy enough to see Rooney play all 90....and hoping he is still on the team come September 3rd.
Very interesting to see a) no Mata and b) no striker for Chelsea
I thought the midfield for Chelsea would have more success against United's midfield (carrick slow, Cleverly inexperienced) and defense (Jones, disaster, Rio/Vidic not exactly fleet of foot), but United did well in that regard. Welbeck was underwhelming.
Disagree that the Lampard pk shouldn't have been called. Hand was well away from his body, don't care if he was spinning or not, it was not ball from body to hand, it was clear hand.
Stronger referee would have handled a number of incidents differently in this game. The ref has a job to do, do it. My opinion of the refereeing has not been limited to one game, it's been a number of games all over Europe. I guess it's still early in the year for the refs too.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
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I just found the Schurrle at CF decision mystifying. I have no issue with coming into Old Trafford as the visiting team and looking to play defensively and hit on the counter. But Schurrle has no experience with his back to the goal, so he couldn't bring the wingers into play on the counter.
On the PK, I think that's the very definition of a discretionary call. We've all seen them given without much controversy. But I've seen them let go too. They can tinker with the rule all they want to, there's never going to be a bright line.
On the PK, I think that's the very definition of a discretionary call. We've all seen them given without much controversy. But I've seen them let go too. They can tinker with the rule all they want to, there's never going to be a bright line.
T Bell
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jonessed
Footballguy
Not really a consolation. They are different types of players. Tottenham was always in for Lamala.
Willian is more experienced and a more creative player at this point in his career. Lamela is a much bigger goal scorer, but will likely require more time to develop his creative side (he's only 21). Spurs are also looking into Hulk from what I understand. It will be interesting to see if Hulk can force a transfer at Tottenham's lower valuation.
Dinsy Ejotuz
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Read this sentence, and pretend you missed the word "ex". You might be glad to know that I thought it seemed out of character.Just occurred to me that my girlfriend's azzhole ex looks a lot like John Terry. Just one more reason to detest him.
T Bell
Footballguy
Read this sentence, and pretend you missed the word "ex". You might be glad to know that I thought it seemed out of character.Just occurred to me that my girlfriend's azzhole ex looks a lot like John Terry. Just one more reason to detest him.
That would be a deal-breaker.
T Bell
Footballguy
Chelsea wanted Hulk last year and they're still looking for a striker, so that'll be interesting too.
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Meanwhile...Iker sits again. 
T Bell
Footballguy
You sure? Someone tweeted earlier he was in the starting lineup.Meanwhile...Iker sits again.
EDIT - nevermind. I just checked and he did indeed sit again.
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Read this sentence, and pretend you missed the word "ex". You might be glad to know that I thought it seemed out of character.Just occurred to me that my girlfriend's azzhole ex looks a lot like John Terry. Just one more reason to detest him.
Never saw the "ex" . . . but did not assume it was out of character
I've actually been pretty encouraged by what I have seen from the Spurs so far - given what the team is going though with Bale. They seem to have real control of the midfield, and they are creating decent scoring chances. I think they have a real good shot at a top-4 finish, and enough depth to compete in Europa and the domestic cups.
I think when the dust settles on the Bale transactions - they will be in good shape.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
This thread is beginning to move too fast for me to keep up. 3 pages on a Monday? ####.
Steve Tasker
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Steve Tasker
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
It wasn't a Stoke-Sunderland 0-0 but would have liked both sides to attack more. United miss Rafael - he's becoming a difference maker and Jones has a horrible touch and can't cross worth ####.
Underrated is United's CB pairing. If it wasn't for Welbeck's idiotic dribbling against Swansea they'd start the season with 2 clean sheets against 2 pretty good attacks. Rio and Vidic may be a little long in the tooth but I think I'd take that pair over any other pair in the league.
Underrated is United's CB pairing. If it wasn't for Welbeck's idiotic dribbling against Swansea they'd start the season with 2 clean sheets against 2 pretty good attacks. Rio and Vidic may be a little long in the tooth but I think I'd take that pair over any other pair in the league.
CletiusMaximus
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My wife's looks a little like Kenwyne Jones.Edit sorry, didn't see the "ex" - never mind.Just occurred to me that my girlfriend's azzhole ex looks a lot like John Terry. Just one more reason to detest him.
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Footballguy
When researching for fantasy footie, I was struck by the stark difference between United's GA when Vidic was on the pitch. I think it was like 0.7 when he played, and 1.2 when he didn't.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Mata not playing was a shock. He must be hurt, or something's up. I also expected to see Kagawa. Those two might've made a better game of it. I don't think Cech had a save until the 80th min or so, and de Gea was only mildly inconvenienced once or twice. Terry was MOTM for me.
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Footballguy
Spurs throwing their hat in the Mata race. With the WC coming up, you'd think he wants to get out of there.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
So they were practicing their strategy for the match against Bayern?Chelsea are playing WAY back.
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