Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
It didn't look that way after two pots, but now that group looks really entertaining.
B looks like a snoozer. Hopefully Juve/RM have their second game fairly early on before they've sewn up spots.
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B looks like a snoozer. Hopefully Juve/RM have their second game fairly early on before they've sewn up spots.
So, if the Bale to Real transfer falls through....are Spurs ####ed?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/soccer-real-admit-problems-sealing-bale-deal-162144675--sow.html
I mean, they've spent so much money in transfers, presuming they would be getting money for Bale, but what happens if at the last moment Real fails to secure financing to send back to London?
I read that Real still owe Spurs most of the money from the Modric deal too.
Probably will not be an issue, but would make me laugh if something happened.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/soccer-real-admit-problems-sealing-bale-deal-162144675--sow.html
I mean, they've spent so much money in transfers, presuming they would be getting money for Bale, but what happens if at the last moment Real fails to secure financing to send back to London?
I read that Real still owe Spurs most of the money from the Modric deal too.
Probably will not be an issue, but would make me laugh if something happened.
T Bell
Footballguy
Not a full B-team, but most of the top clubs will use this to start at least a couple of squad players and at least one promising reserve team player. This is often even done in the latter round matches. Much depends upon opposition though. If you're up against a League 2 side, you'll usually start more "lesser" players; if you're up against a tough PL opponent then the opposite is true.
It's definitely the least important competition for most PL teams though.
GoFishTN
Footballguy
Besides the added TV money this year, Spurs are backed by a billionaire. He just doesn't throw his money around like the rest of them. They're fine either way.
T Bell
Footballguy
Dortmund's home matches are not to be missed. I'd probably want to catch a game in that stadium more than any other in the Bundesliga just because of the fan atmosphere.
T Bell
Footballguy
Arsenal can advance, but they need to play well to do so, that's for sure. I'm looking forward to six great matches though. That's what the CL is all about.
Moe.
Footballguy
Agreed, unfortunately that match is at Nuremberg. I guess I should have followed Euro convention and listed the home team first.
T Bell
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
The influx of foreigners started in earnest during the 90s. I remember an old issue of Goal (or 4-4-2) with Zola on the cover that ranked the top 100 foreign born players in England. As I recall, the list dipped into the lower divisions. A similar list today would be five times longer.
The last Wimbledon top level side in 1999-2000 was mostly from the British Isles. There were some English born players who played their international football abroad (including future talking heads Efan Ekoku and Robbie Earle) and a handful of Scandinavians who Drillo brought in with little effect. This was more the rule than the exception in those days. Chelsea was about the only team that was predominantly foreign.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
USMNT qualifiers roster:
GK: Howard, Guzan, Rimando
Def: Beasley, Besler, Brooks, Cameron, Castillo, Evans, Gonzo, Orozco
Mids: Beckerman, Bedoya, Bradley, Mix, Fab Johnson, Jones, Zusi
FWDs: Jozy, Donovan, Deuce, Bacon, EJ
Most surprising inclusions are probably Beckerman and Castillo. Most surprising exclusion is Goodson (Brooks is only available for Costa Rica, though, so maybe Goodson comes in for the second game).
GK: Howard, Guzan, Rimando
Def: Beasley, Besler, Brooks, Cameron, Castillo, Evans, Gonzo, Orozco
Mids: Beckerman, Bedoya, Bradley, Mix, Fab Johnson, Jones, Zusi
FWDs: Jozy, Donovan, Deuce, Bacon, EJ
Most surprising inclusions are probably Beckerman and Castillo. Most surprising exclusion is Goodson (Brooks is only available for Costa Rica, though, so maybe Goodson comes in for the second game).
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
I would just like to take this moment and point out.............this thread is rapidly becoming the only thread worth even coming to this board for anymore. :grouphug:
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Besides Christo, it's a good group
Well, he smells a little funky sometimes but on the whole I like having the big snotty bastage around.
Moe.
Footballguy
Yeah I suspect we'll see him on the field in Costa Rica. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Chandler.
Klinsmann talking about the roster
no breaking news here, just interesting to hear Klinsmann talk about the upcoming roster.
no breaking news here, just interesting to hear Klinsmann talk about the upcoming roster.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Yes, please. Whoodathunkit -- by US standards we're stacked at forward.
T Bell
Footballguy
Considering England recently played Ricky Lambert at striker, I'd say the US is pretty well stacked by a lot of other countries' standards, especially with Aron Johansson as well. We're actually good!
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Lots of USMNT love in here... they haven't even qualified yet. I want them to hit their stride right around the second game of the Group stage of WC2014.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Spain has also not qualified. Those guys suck!
Eephus
Footballguy
Moe.
Footballguy
We're clearly the best team in the world at this point. Just give us the trophy already.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Look dude, all I'm saying is that I know better than to make claims about the quality of the USMNT during the interstitial phase of the world cup cycle. Time to prove it on the big stage.
Moe.
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I'm mostly just having fun with you.
But I still think your point is kind of silly. Other than Spain, no team in the world right now has "proven it" on the big stage. Italy will have Buffon and Pirlo and maybe another World Cup winner.
Even if we restrict our analysis to teams that we'd expect to have a deep cup run, we're left with a very small group of teams. Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Brazil, Germany and Argentina.
Other hot teams that we might think are likely to advance are in the same boat as the US. I like Columbia and Belgium, but what have they proven on the big stage? Belgium will be in their first big tournament in a decade. Hell, Argentina hasn't won a Copa America since 93 and hasn't been past the quarterfinals in the World Cup since 1990.
People are excited about the US team because they've won a dozen games in a row. They can only play the games in front of them, and they've won them. Other US teams, even pretty good US teams, haven't been able to do that. If we can't be excited to watch the team or feel better about them in those circumstances, then only the fans of a handful of national teams can. And that would be stupid.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
Ok, I'm convinced. How 'bout everyone else?
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
The World Cup is a three-game tournament against other good teams -- anything can happen and you can't judge any team on three games. No matter what happens next year I'll be happy with the progress we've made in adding depth and the recent run of wins.
Ok, I'm convinced. How 'bout everyone else?
The Gator
Footballguy
Sebowski
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I'm not giving away Eidur Gudjohnsen's nickname.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Thumbs down. If the Frings handball is called and LaDon converts one of the opportunities he had in Korea 2002 we'd have played in the semi final round, with only South Korea to beat to reach the final. Two knock-out wins in the minimum for me, as unlikely as that is.
(Understanding, they have to qualify first)
Sebowski
Footballguy
T Bell
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Coming out of exile for this one as it is too tasty to pass up
Z, there appears to be a touch of hypocrisy in your statement.You state that you basically don't care/can't enjoy how good the US is playing outside of 2 weeks every 4 years, but you are the very first person to complain about how bad the US is when they are playing poorly. If you don't care how good the US is in the "interstitial phase", why do you care how bad it is during that same time frame?
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As a fan, I can never buy into the judging a team on 3 games every 4 years, if for nothing else, you are at the mercy of the draw. Just compare the last two draws for the US for example
2006: They were drawn with the eventual WC winners, a solid second tier Euro side and a top African side
2010: They were drawn with one of the weakest first seeds, one of weakest second tier Euro sides and arguably the weakest African side
The 2014 team might be better (much better) than the 2010 version but if 2014 version of US gets drawn into group of death (something like Argie, Belgium, US, Ivory Coast), they are not likely to get out alive.
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As for the 2002 side, I am still amazed to this day how they played against Germany in the quarterfinal, and they deserved that game to at least get into extra time. But I also recognize that that memory is a bit romantic. The US was a pubic hair(maybe thinner) away from being eliminated in the first round if this shot goes in very late in the Portugal-SK game (at the 4min 35 sec mark if the link does not time index)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHR0IFyGD_Y&t=4m35s
For people setting a semi final appearance as the "bare minimum" for what they consider a success next summer, I would bet the under
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jonessed
Footballguy
They are just over break-even in the transfer market over the last two years.
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Jesus, they let anyone in this thread nowadays. ;-)
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
So many teams still have pieces of Aguedelo, though. It just doesn't seem possible that any buyout will be accepted.
My favorite bit of transfer news is that Kaka, four days before the close of the window, has decided he'll move now. He's just teasing Madrid now.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Boateng to Schalke 04. Schalke's 01 through 03 come away empty-handed.
Matri to AC Milan.
Kaka wants out of RM.
ETA: #### Boateng
Matri to AC Milan.
Kaka wants out of RM.
ETA: #### Boateng
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Tom Hagen
Footballguy
He's just toying with the media at this point right?Right, so Wenger today declared that he won't panic buy, and he held open the possibility that Bendtner might return to the squad and play.
I'm pretty new to all this, if Arsenal doesn't sign someone who, you know, actually costs money will there be any real fan backlash or will people just grumble and keep showing up?
GoFishTN
Footballguy
Thanks for the concern.Similar threads
