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***Official Soccer Discussion Thread*** (6 Viewers)

B Maverick said:
Welbeck has always had great movement, pace and positioning so none of this is a surprise. Over the last few seasons his decision making was lacking as he seemed to be consumed with trying to make the ESPN highlight goal and at the top of the box wanted to shoot when he should pass and wanted to pass when he should shoot. His choices on type of shots when in on goal also was very off and often he would get to fancy on the ball. It had become so bad that IMO he had worked himself into an excellent winger type who could serve a ball, get in behind defenders and work up and back endlessly.

His swing and a miss leading to Ox's goal is a great representation of his last couple years at United while his Hat Trick yesterday showed more of what he burst on to the scene with. Also not surprising that he did this in a CL game, but will need to build off this for the EPL. If he can find a nice level of consistency between these two extremes he will far exceed the transfer $ spent on him. If he continues to tease like he did at United, then Arsenal overspent.

He has the talent. He just needs to remember it doesn't matter how it goes in the goal, just as long as it does. 2 espn highlight goals out of 4 wont get you paid as much as 0 espn highlight goals out of 15...
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That's what I liked about all 3 goals yesterday - they were the simplest and most efficient ways that he could finish in each situation, and he carried out each one perfectly.

 
CBusAlex said:
This is the part where Mbolhi throws his controller at the TV and declares the game to be bull####.
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That was a brutal dropping of points. As a Revs fan that was good for my team but man what a stomach punch adter looking like they grabbed the vital 3 points late.

 
Sebowski said:
Good Posting Judge said:
:pickle:

http://www.beinsports.tv/news/title/dani-alves-im-going-to-england/article/s665vbvfjm4218g4uuusrztda?utm_content=buffer40fa9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Careful what you wish for.
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To be totally fair, he's played better this year. He's tried and hasn't looked so aloof on defense. And that one-touch cross over to Messi was a thing of beauty last weekend.

That said, I still don't think he has the offensive skills/speed to warrant getting as forward as he does. He gets a ton of space out there on the right because teams know he isn't much of a threat, and his crossing ability is mediocre at best.

 
T Bell said:
B Maverick said:
Welbeck has always had great movement, pace and positioning so none of this is a surprise. Over the last few seasons his decision making was lacking as he seemed to be consumed with trying to make the ESPN highlight goal and at the top of the box wanted to shoot when he should pass and wanted to pass when he should shoot. His choices on type of shots when in on goal also was very off and often he would get to fancy on the ball. It had become so bad that IMO he had worked himself into an excellent winger type who could serve a ball, get in behind defenders and work up and back endlessly.

His swing and a miss leading to Ox's goal is a great representation of his last couple years at United while his Hat Trick yesterday showed more of what he burst on to the scene with. Also not surprising that he did this in a CL game, but will need to build off this for the EPL. If he can find a nice level of consistency between these two extremes he will far exceed the transfer $ spent on him. If he continues to tease like he did at United, then Arsenal overspent.

He has the talent. He just needs to remember it doesn't matter how it goes in the goal, just as long as it does. 2 espn highlight goals out of 4 wont get you paid as much as 0 espn highlight goals out of 15...
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That's what I liked about all 3 goals yesterday - they were the simplest and most efficient ways that he could finish in each situation, and he carried out each one perfectly.
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That he did. And he did well. And when he doesnt think to much or all he has to do is direct the ball into the net he seems to be fine. He was in on goal and close enough that he didnt have to think. Had he been on the break from outside the box then the issues I mentioned arise. Good for him, good for Arsenal.

I would rather he score for Arsenal then Liverpool, City or Chelsea... since he couldnt score for United :boxing:

Now on the weekend, with Rooney & Blackett (I think) out and Herrera hurting, hope this means more Mata and Januzaj.

RVP Falcao

Mata

Di Maria Blind Januzaj

Shaw Rojo McNair Rafael

De Gea

 
B Maverick said:
T Bell said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
The Gator said:
El Floppo said:
Pretty nice goal, kids.
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Yeah, that's pretty
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Looked more likely to be a disaster playing out the back until the left back made an amazing outlet.
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:goodposting:

The one touch passing was fun to watch from that age group - impressive.
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loved how the winger got wide and everyone had the confidence to play one touch
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Yeah, I just went back and watched the off-the-ball movement. That was excellent. So hard to get kids to understand that they need to work harder without the ball than they do with it sometimes.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
The Gator said:
El Floppo said:
Pretty nice goal, kids.
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Yeah, that's pretty
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Looked more likely to be a disaster playing out the back until the left back made an amazing outlet.
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you nailed it.

that one pass opened everything else up (after the GK put him in a bad spot)... and could/should have been a complete disaster if not played so well.

Although I guess it could be said that the ball played by the GK pulled the other team up high, stretching them out defensively and opening themselves to that incredbily well worked series of 1-touches.

 
T Bell said:
B Maverick said:
T Bell said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
The Gator said:
El Floppo said:
Pretty nice goal, kids.
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Yeah, that's pretty
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Looked more likely to be a disaster playing out the back until the left back made an amazing outlet.
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:goodposting:

The one touch passing was fun to watch from that age group - impressive.
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loved how the winger got wide and everyone had the confidence to play one touch
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Yeah, I just went back and watched the off-the-ball movement. That was excellent. So hard to get kids to understand that they need to work harder without the ball than they do with it sometimes.
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Its hard to get over 35 year old players to get that off the ball movement going. I want to show some of the wingers I play Sundays with the kid on the outside getting chalk on his heels....

 
The Z Machine said:
El Floppo said:
Although I guess it could be said that the ball played by the GK pulled the other team up high, stretching them out defensively and opening themselves to that incredbily well worked series of 1-touches.
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Riiiiiiight.
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:lol:

but seriously- playing the ball in the back is going to lead other teams to pushing higher... obviously 509 one-touch picture-perfect passes in a row isn't part of the plan, but forcing the other team to adjust their defensive shape is.

 
El Floppo said:
The Z Machine said:
El Floppo said:
Although I guess it could be said that the ball played by the GK pulled the other team up high, stretching them out defensively and opening themselves to that incredbily well worked series of 1-touches.
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Riiiiiiight.
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:lol:

but seriously- playing the ball in the back is going to lead other teams to pushing higher... obviously 509 one-touch picture-perfect passes in a row isn't part of the plan, but forcing the other team to adjust their defensive shape is.
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The yellow team was actually pressing very well - it almost came down to one mistake and there could have been a goal the other way, that being the DM's(?) first touch on a pass to the keeper being a bit (not a lot) errant, and forcing another back pass into traffic. That's a big part of what's so impressive to me - that wasn't one team simply falling apart. The yellows were playing good footy trying to regain possession and got cut up by expert play.

 
If Arsenal sets up for counter attack and puts out a fast set of attackers like they did mid-week (e.g. Alexis, Welbeck and Oxlade-Chamberlain), anything can happen.

 
My kid, the newly-minted Liverpool fan, came out of her room to stall ("my room is tilting" :rolleyes: ). I told her that Pool was playing tomorrow at 7 am, and she was pretty stoked.

Me: "And you know what Liverpool's motto is?"
Little GPJ: "What?"
Me: "'You'll Never Walk Alone.' Know what you have to do to your bedroom right now?"
Little GPJ: ...

Me: "Walk alone."

(I tucked her in)

 
What a great start Atlético. The goals down in first 16 mins, including an own goal. Moyá and Miranda not their best outing. This team is so up and down right now.

 
The Z Machine said:
What a great start Atlético. The goals down in first 16 mins, including an own goal. Moyá and Miranda not their best outing. This team is so up and down right now.
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Shocking...Miranda looked to be at fault for the second goal as well...I begrudgingly respect him & Godin as the complete CB pairing, did not see this one coming. What a contrast in style between the two teams. Valencia looks the part this year...
 
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