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Just got tickets to go see my Xolos take on Rhonaldhino's Querétaro I missed the chance to see him in Tijuana last year, so I am stoked to see him live. I was not so stoked to see that this wily veteran on the decline of his career is actually a few years younger than me.

The coach said he hasn't decided if he is going to play his International break players (Garza and Corona). Hopefully Arriola gets some action

 
Just got tickets to go see my Xolos take on Rhonaldhino's Querétaro I missed the chance to see him in Tijuana last year, so I am stoked to see him live. I was not so stoked to see that this wily veteran on the decline of his career is actually a few years younger than me.
He was named the South American Football Player of the year last year which is pretty impressive given his age (33 at the time). Neymar and Maxi Rodriguez came in 2nd and 3rd respectively.

 
Just got tickets to go see my Xolos take on Rhonaldhino's Querétaro I missed the chance to see him in Tijuana last year, so I am stoked to see him live. I was not so stoked to see that this wily veteran on the decline of his career is actually a few years younger than me.
He was named the South American Football Player of the year last year which is pretty impressive given his age (33 at the time). Neymar and Maxi Rodriguez came in 2nd and 3rd respectively.
Didn't he help his club team... soemthing Minerals something win the Copa Libertadores?

 
Just got tickets to go see my Xolos take on Rhonaldhino's Querétaro I missed the chance to see him in Tijuana last year, so I am stoked to see him live. I was not so stoked to see that this wily veteran on the decline of his career is actually a few years younger than me.
He was named the South American Football Player of the year last year which is pretty impressive given his age (33 at the time). Neymar and Maxi Rodriguez came in 2nd and 3rd respectively.
Didn't he help his club team... soemthing Minerals something win the Copa Libertadores?
Yup. Atletico Mineiro. It was their first ever Copa Championship in a 106 years.

 
Just got tickets to go see my Xolos take on Rhonaldhino's Querétaro I missed the chance to see him in Tijuana last year, so I am stoked to see him live. I was not so stoked to see that this wily veteran on the decline of his career is actually a few years younger than me.
He was named the South American Football Player of the year last year which is pretty impressive given his age (33 at the time). Neymar and Maxi Rodriguez came in 2nd and 3rd respectively.
Didn't he help his club team... soemthing Minerals something win the Copa Libertadores?
He was very good in the Liberatadores with Mineiero. But so was Jo. Kind of a small sample size.

 
He's basically still great when he feels like it. But it seems not many teams are willing to bet on him if he is playing for Querétaro.

So, while yes, he's awesome, when he goes from World Player of the Year for the best team in the universe to mid table LigaMX, he is on the decline.

Next stop, MLS? I KID, I KID!!!

 
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He's basically still great when he feels like it. But it seems not many teams are willing to bet on him if he is playing for Querétaro
The odd part is I am fairly certain plenty of MLS and bigger Liga MX teams would have signed him at a huge salary but he chose to go to Querétaro which recently could not even pay their own players.

 
He's basically still great when he feels like it. But it seems not many teams are willing to bet on him if he is playing for Querétaro
The odd part is I am fairly certain plenty of MLS and bigger Liga MX teams would have signed him at a huge salary but he chose to go to Querétaro which recently could not even pay their own players.
That is weird. Dude has always been a bit strange. I would love to see him MLS. He's one of those guys I would watch whenever he is on TV. There's 4 other Brazilians on that team. Maybe that has something to do with it?

 
Trivia time:

Name the active* international player with the most international goals.

*Klose has retired from international play, he was the leader. As a hint, other top scorers, Villa, Donovan and Drogba are all now retired from international play.

 
Drogba is retired from international play (if that is who you meant Eephus). I mentioned him on my post. He retired with 65 goals.

Thomas Muller only has 24 goals but then again he is only 25, so he might get there 7ish years from now.

Robbie Keane was the correct answer with 65 goals.

Second* is Cristiano Ronaldo with 51 goals.

Technically Carlos Ruiz is in second at 57 goals but there seems to be a question as to whether he is still active or not.

 
Zero safety does not exist, but one has to take the necessary precautions so that the coming tournament will be a football feast, bringing together our African brothers, but given the current Ebola situation we dont think such a feast can take place as expected.

We are talking about the Africa Cup of Nations where we are expecting between 200,000 to 400,000, even one million spectators to converge in Morocco.

I dont think there is any state or any country that has the necessary capabilities to monitor, check and control the current Ebola situation when faced with these numbers.

This is our real problem. We dont have a problem with visiting teams, we have a problem with visitors.
I think his fear is rational. There's a difference between not closing your borders and inviting in hundreds of thousands of people from heavily affected areas into your country. They will also be packed into stadiums and hotels in small areas. It's a recipe for disaster.

Maybe if they had the resources or infrastructure to do the proper screening they could manage something, but they don't.

The downside is just too great.

 
Joey Saputo, the president and owner of the Montreal Impact has purchased a controlling share in Serie B club Bologna for approx $26m. Bologna has been held in consortium since 2010.

Marco Di Vaio, who is retiring from the Impact at the end of the season, has been named the technical advisor.

 
I never considered this angle. I always assumed that they would simply sweep every thing under the rug and keep the WC in Qatar but what if they take the opposite approach with the identical end result( it stays in Qatar) and have proof the other countries, including the US, were corrupt in the process?

This article is the first one I have seen that says the US and other countries who bid were also investigated.


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The German judge overseeing Fifa’s investigation into the controversial bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups has insisted that the report cannot be published in full for legal reasons, but promised an overview of the main findings by the middle of next month.

Hans-Joachim Eckert, the chair of the adjudicatory arm of Fifa’s ethics committee, received the potentially explosive 360-page report and 200,000 pages of supporting documents from Michael Garcia, the former US attorney for the southern district of New York who is head of the investigatory arm, last month.

Ever since, a battle has raged over whether and when it will be published. Garcia and several members of the Fifa executive committee have called for it to be published in full, with names redacted to protect whistleblowers, in order to help restore Fifa’s battered credibility.

Eckert has now moved to clarify the situation in an interview posted on Fifa’s website, promising to deliver a statement by mid-November at the latest but again ruling out full publication of Garcia’s report.

“The statement will contain an overview of the investigation report, a summary of the main findings, conclusions and recommendations of the report, as well as a brief evaluation of the same,” he said.

The German judge, appointed as part of Fifa’s reform process as it tried to come to terms with the fallout from a string of corruption allegations, said that because those interviewed had been promised confidentiality it would be all but impossible to publish the report in full.

“Publishing the report in full would actually put the Fifa ethics committee and Fifa itself in a very difficult situation legally,” he said. “What is more, we have to respect the personal rights of the people mentioned in the report, which in the case of full publication of the report would in all likelihood not be possible.”

Garcia reiterated his call for more transparency in a speech to US lawyers in London earlier this week but Eckert insisted there was no rift between them. He said: “Michael Garcia has never said that the report should be 100% published. He merely said that the ‘appropriate’ publication of his report should be authorised. The deputy chairman of the adjudicatory chamber and I now have the task of drawing up this appropriate form for publication.

“Part of my current examination involves deciding what form this appropriate publication should take, whether this means issuing a statement regarding the investigation report or whether certain parts of the investigation report will be published while maintaining anonymity, or indeed a combination of these possibilities. This decision is exclusively a matter for the adjudicatory chamber – neither the investigatory chamber nor the Fifa executive committee can decide. The main requirement is that personal rights must not be damaged.”

Eckert, who has been under pressure to clarify his position, said in September that his own judgment based on Garcia’s investigation, likely to be delivered early next year, would not go down well with many at Fifa. “Many won’t like what I am going to tell them,” he warned.

He also attempted to deal with claims that Garcia was compromised because he was an American citizen investigating a bidding race in which the US played an integral part. The US would be in pole position to host the 2022 tournament if it was stripped from Qatar.

“It must be pointed out that the main report has been produced not by Michael Garcia alone, but also by the deputy chairman of the investigatory chamber of the Fifa ethics committee, Cornel Borbély. In fact, the report into Russia and the USA was produced solely by Cornel Borbély,” said Eckert.

“This is because Michael Garcia was unable to take part in some parts of the investigation due to the possibility of conflicts of interest, for example in the case of the American bid [as he is a US citizen].”

Controversy has surrounded the controversial and chaotic decision to award the 2018 World Cup to Russia and the 2022 tournament to Qatar ever since the vote in December 2010. Mohamed Bin Hammam, the disgraced former president of the Asian Football Confederation, has been linked to paying a string of bribes during the Qatari’s failed bid to become Fifa president, with some linking his activities to the concurrent Qatar 2022 bid. The failed bidders, including the US, Australian and England, also come under scrutiny.

Eckert has said that only four people have access to Garcia’s report, but other sources claim to have seen parts of it. It is said to focus on breaches of the ethics code by several individuals but Eckert and the Fifa president, Sepp Blatter, have said that only Fifa’s executive committee would have the power to strip either Russia or Qatar of the World Cup. Garcia travelled to all the bidding countries, except for Russia where he is barred from entry due to the country’s continuing dispute with the US over sanctions, to gather evidence over an 18-month period.

In his speech in London, Garcia called for a culture change among Fifa’s leadership and called for an end to the prevailing veil of secrecy at the Zurich-based governing body. “The investigation and adjudication process operates in most parts unseen and unheard,” he said. “That’s a kind of system which might be appropriate for an intelligence agency but not for an ethics compliance process in an international sports institution that serves the public and is the subject of intense public scrutiny.”

 
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The US might have a few technical issues like probably every bidding country does, but we as a country have to "stretch" less to host an event like the World Cup and simply don't need it as much as other nations do for prestige or other purposes. We also don't have a business culture that embraces bribery quite as much; indeed you can get into major criminal trouble here if you do that stuff, even overseas. Our FIFA reps were among those, for example, who turned down their expensive watches in Brazil this past summer.

In short, I doubt we'd have much to hide if they investigated every nation.

 
The US might have a few technical issues like probably every bidding country does, but we as a country have to "stretch" less to host an event like the World Cup and simply don't need it as much as other nations do for prestige or other purposes. We also don't have a business culture that embraces bribery quite as much; indeed you can get into major criminal trouble here if you do that stuff, even overseas. Our FIFA reps were among those, for example, who turned down their expensive watches in Brazil this past summer.

In short, I doubt we'd have much to hide if they investigated every nation.
Comparatively I think you're right.

But if they wanted to cherry pick stuff the US delegation did wrong and not mention everything else it could still sound bad.

 
The US might have a few technical issues like probably every bidding country does, but we as a country have to "stretch" less to host an event like the World Cup and simply don't need it as much as other nations do for prestige or other purposes. We also don't have a business culture that embraces bribery quite as much; indeed you can get into major criminal trouble here if you do that stuff, even overseas. Our FIFA reps were among those, for example, who turned down their expensive watches in Brazil this past summer.

In short, I doubt we'd have much to hide if they investigated every nation.
I am pretty sure most of our olympic bids dispute most of this...

 
The US might have a few technical issues like probably every bidding country does, but we as a country have to "stretch" less to host an event like the World Cup and simply don't need it as much as other nations do for prestige or other purposes. We also don't have a business culture that embraces bribery quite as much; indeed you can get into major criminal trouble here if you do that stuff, even overseas. Our FIFA reps were among those, for example, who turned down their expensive watches in Brazil this past summer.

In short, I doubt we'd have much to hide if they investigated every nation.
Comparatively I think you're right.

But if they wanted to cherry pick stuff the US delegation did wrong and not mention everything else it could still sound bad.
this is my exact fear. It might be unreasonable but FIFA forces one to think unreasonably.

Since they are not releasing the report and just summarizing it, they could easily say something like

"All bids were found to have issues. As such we are recommending that the WC remain in Qatar and we will be putting forth X, Y, and Z policies to avoid this in the future"

Now the bid problems they summarize could easily be

"Qatar purchased votes

*Clinton took an extra mint in the hotel lobby

But with out any details, FIFA might find a way to make it seem like they uncovered dirt, no one gets hurt (since they won't release any names), the WC stays in Qatar and they pretend to care that they don't want this to happen again.

If this scenario plays out, our only hope is Garcia saying something, but I have to think he is under a severe NDA agreement.

 
What an odd sequence this must have been

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Edinson Cavani took a dive to earn a penalty and it worked. Then he made the penalty, celebrated with his fake gun shooting and all was well for he and Paris Saint-Germain.

That's a pretty normal sequence, and it happens all the time. What followed wasn't, and doesn't.

The referee showed Cavani a yellow card for his fake gun showing, despite the fact that he does it regularly and has never been punished for it before. Then Cavani, shocked as to what was going on, grabbed the referee by the sleeve. That earned him a second yellow card in the referee's estimation, so the red came out and Cavani's day was over.

 
I'm playing indoor soccer in a league this fall/winter for the first time since I was 15ish. First game is Wednesday. I'm pretty sure it will be a disaster. Any tips?

 
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What an odd sequence this must have been

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Edinson Cavani took a dive to earn a penalty and it worked. Then he made the penalty, celebrated with his fake gun shooting and all was well for he and Paris Saint-Germain.

That's a pretty normal sequence, and it happens all the time. What followed wasn't, and doesn't.

The referee showed Cavani a yellow card for his fake gun showing, despite the fact that he does it regularly and has never been punished for it before. Then Cavani, shocked as to what was going on, grabbed the referee by the sleeve. That earned him a second yellow card in the referee's estimation, so the red came out and Cavani's day was over.
I watched this game today on a flight. Cavani's red card was the 2nd of 3 given in about a 5 minute run early in the second half. The Lens defender got an unfair yellow on Cavani's blatant dive, and was so pissed off he was deservedly sent off for complaining. Cavani scored the pen and was immediately sent off (deservedly) for grabbing the ref's arm. Then a Lens defender was given a second yellow a few minutes later.

 
I'm playing indoor soccer in a league this fall/winter for the first time since I was 15ish. First game is Wednesday. I'm pretty sure it will be a disaster. Any tips?
Don't chase the ball all across the field. Let the game come to you. Stay in your position unless you know you have cover, and cover anyone who leaves there position to make a run through yours.

 
I'm playing indoor soccer in a league this fall/winter for the first time since I was 15ish. First game is Wednesday. I'm pretty sure it will be a disaster. Any tips?
Don't chase the ball all across the field. Let the game come to you. Stay in your position unless you know you have cover, and cover anyone who leaves there position to make a run through yours.
And have a few shots before kickoff. It'll help you loosen up.

 
Disaster in Dortmund...amazing disparity between their Bundesliga form & their Champions League performances...

 
Tricky game for Roma...sandwiched in between their Juve loss and upcoming Bayern match Tues...have to get full 3 pts in these type of matches whilst resting key players...

DAJE ROMA!

 
Zaragoza scores in injury time for 2nd straight week!...(so I said to myself....Self...)

 
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I was watching a little bit of the Portland v. RSL game last night (Andy - :hey: ) saw Rimando make on of the craziest plays I have seen a keeper make - I wish I saw more of the re-play to understand why he made the play (which worked out well).

But, Portland player came in on a breakaway from the wing - defenders were closing down, and Rimando had come out of the goal - just when I thought the Portland player was going to shoot - Rimando moved/dove out and to his right. Instead of shooting, the Portland player tried to lay the ball across the box - he was just inside the box at the time. As a result, Rimando "saved" the pass out near the penalty spot.

Rimando must have seen something in the Portland player to know he was not going to shoot - because the shot was the right call there - and then to make the play in traffic was just the icing on the cake.

 

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