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Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
LOL at Mini Maxi getting Diskerud's number 10.  I guess someone's just not in the Mix.
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From what I can tell, the only way the little guy can fit in the salary cap is to assume Mix has to be moved.  I assume Mix is going to move outside of MLS because  I can't see who in MLS is going to take him without NY subsidizing the salary, which I think would still affect their cap.

 
NewlyRetired said:
From what I can tell, the only way the little guy can fit in the salary cap is to assume Mix has to be moved.  I assume Mix is going to move outside of MLS because  I can't see who in MLS is going to take him without NY subsidizing the salary, which I think would still affect their cap.
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I don't think he'll have a problem fitting pretty much anywhere.

 
NewlyRetired said:
From what I can tell, the only way the little guy can fit in the salary cap is to assume Mix has to be moved.  I assume Mix is going to move outside of MLS because  I can't see who in MLS is going to take him without NY subsidizing the salary, which I think would still affect their cap.
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"salary cap"

 
NewlyRetired said:
Mix was a bigger burden on the cap than a DP was because he chewed up the exact same max cap slot as a DP did plus he takes up allocation space that the DP's do not affect.
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I mean they did have 3 DPs with him last year and they haven't added a ton of salary this offseason, so I think they're probably fine salary cap-wise.  The potentially bigger issue is if they have enough international roster spots.  

 
Sammy3469 said:
I mean they did have 3 DPs with him last year and they haven't added a ton of salary this offseason, so I think they're probably fine salary cap-wise.  The potentially bigger issue is if they have enough international roster spots.  
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What I was considering is that expansion teams get a ton of allocation money in year one to get the team going but that sum of money goes away in year two.

 
@Steve Taskeralert.  I am very happy with this move as a Revs fan.  I figured the Revs would likely want to start Cody Cropper in net this year and Femi was a big mistake to leave unprotected to begin with.

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Ives Galarcep ✔@SoccerByIves

I'm hearing @NERevolution dealing Bobby Shuttleworth to @MNUFC for Femi-Hollinger Janzen. Revs lighten GK logjam, gives Loons another vet GK

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Revs GM states it is true

Brian Bilello ‏@RevsPrez  29m29 minutes ago

All of us wish Bobby nothing but the best. Great contributor to the club and influential during our 2014 run. Happy to welcome Femi back.

 
Kafka said:
They were crazy at last year's European Championship.  My favorite part was their attire; I remember seeing a couple of them shirtless, with jean jorts & fanny packs  :lmao: , brutally assaulting some Ainglish blokes.
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Yeah, you see someone dressed like that coming toward you, you KNOW he don't give a ****.  Run away. 

 
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LAUNCH said:
https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/russian-soccer-hooligans/589a4d35841ef40f3f2b6674?latest=1

Russian Soccer Hooligans

Vice's show on Serbian Ultras was crazy.
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I'm hooked again on Vice... lost me for a bit with all the stoner stuff (and i was a heck of a stoner in my day), but the hate your neighbor, noisey and two-guy (desu and menudo... somthing liked that) nightly make fun of whitey and the news shows are pretty great.

I watched part of that show you linked the other night before crashing. 

 
El Floppo said:
I'm hooked again on Vice... lost me for a bit with all the stoner stuff (and i was a heck of a stoner in my day), but the hate your neighbor, noisey and two-guy (desu and menudo... somthing liked that) nightly make fun of whitey and the news shows are pretty great.

I watched part of that show you linked the other night before crashing. 
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I insist you watch "F***, That's Delicious!"  Sure, there is some partaking of the herb, but it mainly focuses on the "culinary" aspect, & it's absolutely hilarious.

 
Kafka said:
I insist you watch "F***, That's Delicious!"  Sure, there is some partaking of the herb, but it mainly focuses on the "culinary" aspect, & it's absolutely hilarious.
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I find it idiotic, gb. that and action bronson watching aliens. I "get" it. just don't find it funny or interesting. if I were high... maybe.

 
ugh. Ali Curtis has left the RBs as sporting director... I don't think it's any coincidence that the club has done well under him- hopefully they can keep the ship pointed in the right direction.

 
El Floppo said:
ugh. Ali Curtis has left the RBs as sporting director... I don't think it's any coincidence that the club has done well under him- hopefully they can keep the ship pointed in the right direction.
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I had not realized that there was friction between him and the front office.  I wonder what the real story is here as it is near impossible to complain about the on field results especially considering his budget.

Here are some details where Curtis seems to take the high road in what ever occurred.  Assuming the back story is not horrendous in regards to Curtis, it would be shocking if some MLS team does not grab him in the next 6-9 months.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/ali-curtis-interview-new-york-red-bulls-departure-mls-leaves-fired-mutual

 
NewlyRetired said:
I had not realized that there was friction between him and the front office.  I wonder what the real story is here as it is near impossible to complain about the on field results especially considering his budget.

Here are some details where Curtis seems to take the high road in what ever occurred.  Assuming the back story is not horrendous in regards to Curtis, it would be shocking if some MLS team does not grab him in the next 6-9 months.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/ali-curtis-interview-new-york-red-bulls-departure-mls-leaves-fired-mutual
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looks like Dax is pretty bitter still.  This is his response to the Curtis news

Dax McCarty ‏@DaxMcCarty11  7m7 minutes ago




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Dax McCarty Retweeted Shawn Francis

"Thank you for the 2 most successful seasons in club history. Don't let the door hit you on the way out."
 
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It is an amazingly painful process to build a stadium.  This is the timeline, in headlines, from the Washington Post for DC United

2004

July 30: United Seeks Stadium Solution; Garber Concerned About RFK Conflicts

Sept. 24: D.C. United Planning Its Own Stadium Deal; Site Would Be Across River From Ballpark

Sept. 25: D.C. Stadiums Seen as One-Two Economic Punch; Proposed Soccer, Baseball Facilities Could Form a Cross-River Complex

Sept. 30: United Won’t Be Alone Any More; Soccer Club Will Have to Share 

Oct. 1: Details Given on United’s Proposed Stadium 

2005

June 22: 
Group With Real Estate Ties Likely to Run United 

July 30: New United Investors Win Trust; MLS Is Confident Local Group Can Build Stadium in D.C. 

Aug. 5: Barry Opposes Soccer Stadium Plan; Waterfront Site Could Be Put to Better Use, Councilman Says

Nov. 10: DC United Clinic Puts Stadium Hopes Into Play; Team Tries to Woo Neighborhood

Nov. 16: Barry Now Backs Soccer Stadium, Sees Help for Ward 

Dec. 12: It’s All About the Pitch for United; Team Takes Stadium Appeal to SE Residents

2006

Jan. 18: United Is Back On the Market; Firm Withdraws From Agreement

May 26: Development Looms in a Natural Oasis in Anacostia 

Nov. 7: Changes Are Afoot for United; Ownership, Coach And Adu’s Future Among Key Issues 

Nov. 17: Land Swap Bill Needs One Signature To Give D.C. Waterfront Plan a Boost 

Dec. 15: RFK Isn’t Perfect, but It’s Just Fine for the 2007 MLS Cup

Dec. 22: Soccer Stadium by 2009? City and D.C. United Differ; Team Keeps Hope Despite Hurdles in Area’s Redevelopment 

2007

Jan. 6: United Sold; New Focus on Stadium 

Jan. 9: Soccer Officials Call for Stadium; D.C. United Chiefs Make First Public Push for Facility 

Jan. 9: New Soccer Team Management Starts Public Push for Stadium in Southeast 

Jan. 9: United’s New Lead Investor Receives Favorable Reactions

Jan. 11: Stadium Deals That Might Smell A Bit Sweeter

Jan. 21: Poplar Point Plans Draw Residents’ Ire 

Jan. 21: In Ward 8, Residents Voice Skepticism of Poplar Point Plan; Many Say Stadium, Hotel and Housing Will Displace Poor

April 8: The Promise of Poplar Point; As D.C. Mayor, Developer Foresee Prosperity, Anacostia Residents Fear Exclusion 

May 3: To See the Truth at Poplar Point, Don’t Just Follow the Money

July 21: Talks Fall Apart On Stadium for D.C. Soccer Team 

July 27: Barry Feels ‘Betrayal’ In Stadium Negotiations; Activists Want Fenty to Resume Site Talks

Oct. 12: United’s Owner Looks Elsewhere; MacFarlane Criticizes Fenty’s Office Over Stadium Talks 

Oct. 17: Md. Comes Courting in D.C. United’s Stadium Search; State Comptroller Meets With Team Executives After Their Talks With Fenty Stall 

Oct. 21: Ward 8 Clamors For Soccer Stadium; Fenty Urged to Support Poplar Point Idea

Oct. 21: Residents Urge Fenty to Build Soccer Stadium at Poplar Point

Nov. 3: Seven Developers Submit Plans for Poplar Point; Two Proposals Include a Soccer Stadium; D.C. United Did Not Participate in Competition 

Nov. 17: United’s Home an Issue; MLS Commissioner Disappointed by Team’s Fruitless Talks With City 

Nov. 29: Would They Call It P.G. United?

2008

Jan. 15: Poplar Point Prospects Prompt Dialogue; Soccer Stadium Among Possibilities 

Jan. 23: Md. Weighs Stadium for D.C. United; Study Will Gauge Pr. George’s Benefits

Feb. 14: Fenty Eyes Public Funds for Soccer Stadium

Feb. 15: Stadium Deal Must Be 2-Sided, Fenty Says; Venue Explored For D.C. United 

Feb. 17: Soccer Stadium Puts Fenty In a Bind; Public Funding of Project Would Be Policy Reversal 

May 28: D.C. Council Crafting Plan to Pay $150 Million for Soccer Stadium

May 29: D.C. United Wants $225M From District for Stadium; CFO Says Financing Would Break City Debt Limit 

May 29: A Stadium Plan That Won’t Pay Off 

June 1: Officials Hesitate on Soccer Stadium; City Indicates Support, But Plan Has No Clear Champion 

June 5: Who Will Build Soccer Stadium? Game On!

June 24: Green Alliance Takes a Stand at Poplar Point 

Sept. 24: Study Cites Benefits of Soccer Stadium, but Some Doubts Raised

2009

Jan. 31: Poplar Point Developer Pulls Out Of Project; Company Cites Risks Of Economic Climate 

Feb. 13: P.G. United?; Co-Owner May Move D.C. Soccer Team to Prince George’s

Feb. 17: Soccer Stadium Supporters Try to Allay Funding Fears

Feb. 17: United Eager to Select Site; 7 Prince George’s Locations Eyed 

Feb. 19: Soccer Stadium ‘Lacked a Champion'; As Talks in D.C. Faltered, Pr. George’s Officials Stepped Forward 

March 7: D.C. United Shops for Land; Md. Legislators Aren’t Sold

March 11: Team Now Asking Pr. George’s to Pay Part 

April 8: United’s Shot Is Blocked Vote; Council Opposes Study of Stadium In Pr. George’s

April 10: (Your City Here) United? 

May 22: Investor Sells His Share of United; Chang to Control MacFarlane’s Stake 

2010

July 28: D.C. United faces multiple problems; On-field performances, stall in new stadium search thwart once-successful team 

2011

Jan. 12: United owner taking bigger role in stadium search 

May 13: House hunt continues for D.C. United 

Nov. 11: Commissioner has concern 

2012

Feb. 20: RFK lease renews push for stadium

March 15: United’s ambitious stadium plan in Southwest D.C. stalled in planning stage 

June 4: Study: $157M for soccer stadium 

July 10: Thohir to be new majority investor in D.C. United 

July 11: New investors give United boost 

July 12: Time to make a new United stadium a reality

Oct. 6: ‘Ongoing’ talks for United stadium

Dec. 1: City officials enter talks on stadium for United 

Dec. 1: Pepco, District officials discuss D.C. United stadium for Buzzard Point

2013

Feb. 16: Stadium talks with city leave United optimistic

July 24: D.C. United and Mayor Gray reach preliminary deal for soccer stadium at Buzzard Point 

July 25: Long road may lead to new home for United 

July 25: Does the soccer stadium deal make sense?

July 25: D.C. United stadium deal approaches reality

July 25: New D.C. United stadium likely to give franchise the kick it needs

July 25: D.C. United stadium plan: Day 1 

July 26: Key D.C. lawmakers support soccer deal 

July 26: United reveals stadium plans

July 26: With proposal in place, D.C. United begins efforts to finalize stadium plan with city 

July 26: D.C. United stadium: The political pitfalls 

July 27: A complicated D.C. United stadium deal is promising

July 27: For D.C. United fans, it’s about time

July 28: D.C. soccer stadium site has long been ignored 

July 28: Approaching the goal 

July 29: Can soccer save Buzzard Point?

July 31: Soccer stadium plan raises travel questions about South Capitol St. 

Aug. 4: The field is wide open. Can D. C. United capitalize? 

Aug. 4: D.C. United stadium deal a long time coming

Aug. 4: As D.C. United looks to its own stadium, Philadelphia’s team provides a template 

Aug. 5: A stadium deal’s past and future

Aug. 8: Eminent domain possible for soccer site, official says

Aug. 8: A soccer-stadium scrap 

Aug. 25: The coming fight over soccer stadium plan

Sept. 11: Mayor Gray, D.C. United reach deal to require union labor of proposed soccer stadium 

Sept. 25: District, Akridge set ground rules for D.C. United stadium land swap

Sept. 26: D.C. United stadium deal questioned by council 

Oct. 10: D.C. United soccer stadium opponents launch “Winning Goal” campaign 

Oct. 21: Critics of D.C. United stadium deal lay out three priorities

Nov. 26: Events D.C. seeks consultant to study future of RFK Stadium

Dec. 1: Gray’s ambitious timeline for deal on D.C. soccer stadium slips

Dec. 25: Stadium may get vast tax breaks

2014

Jan. 10: D.C. Council member Tommy Wells says soccer deal should include affordable housing

Jan. 27: Few are fans of plan for stadium 

Feb. 21: Muriel Bowser: No Reeves Center swap for D.C. United stadium

Feb. 28: D.C. United goes on offensive in stadium debate

May 19: Sources: D.C. United and District government finalizing stadium deal 

May 21: D.C. Council to get United stadium legislation Friday

May 24: Gray urges council to approve soccer stadium land deals 

June 2: D.C. soccer stadium deal will be heavy lift in Vincent Gray’s last months as mayor 

June 27: Council kicks around plan for soccer stadium

July 18: 2 hearings next week to address soccer deal

July 25: Southwest residents have transportation, housing concerns with D.C. United deal 

Aug. 1: A goal for Buzzard Point before D.C. United breaks ground 

Sept. 22: Buzzard Point neighbors seek boost from D.C. United stadium 

Oct. 28: Report to council on soccer deal is delayed 

Nov. 2: Stadium would bring needed development to Buzzard Point 

Nov. 9: Costs of soccer stadium are questioned in report 

Nov. 9: Gray administration tries to hold D.C. soccer stadium deal together

Nov. 11: Eight reasons why a new soccer stadium could be risky for D.C.

Nov. 11: Time to rethink the D.C. United stadium deal

Nov. 19: Bowser to push soccer deal change 

Nov. 25: Council set to act on soccer stadium legislation 

Nov. 26: D.C. Council advances professional soccer stadium, but pitfalls remain

Dec. 2: Council to vote on issuing $62 million of new debt to build soccer stadium

Dec. 2: D.C. Council approves soccer stadium deal, paving way for games in 2017

Dec. 3: D.C. Council falls in line behind soccer stadium 

Dec. 17: D.C. Council gives final approval to soccer stadium deal

2015

June 9: D.C., team finish deal on soccer stadium 

Aug. 2: D.C. United stadium plans move forward, with architect and surveys

Oct. 1: After the buzzer, city sues to grab stadium land 

Dec. 23: The last scrap yard in the District closes to make room for stadium

2016

April 26: United stadium plans take shape 

Oct. 1: Buzzard Point land to be yielded to United; stadium likely by 2018

Oct. 17: Feud over stadium design threatens D.C. United’s plans 

Oct. 21: As D.C. United and developers clash, residents are forgotten 

Nov. 30: D.C. United queried on stadium design, crowds 

2017

Feb. 12: D.C. United could receive final approval for Buzzard Point stadium Thursday

Feb. 15: D.C. United strikes deal with Audi for stadium naming rights

Feb. 16: After long wait, D.C. United gets final go-ahead to build new stadium
 
The former U.S. national team captain is out as head coach of USL side FC Cincinnati after just one season in charge, sources tell Goal.

Since FC Cincinnati launched as a USL expansion team a year ago, the team has been led by head coach John Harkes, a man who had come to be synonymous with the thriving club and its record-setting crowds.

Those crowds will have a new coach to cheer for though, as Harkes' tenure with Cincinnati has come to an end. Sources told Goal  on Friday that Harkes had been replaced as manager by assistant coach Alan Koch, with the club confirming the moves Friday night. 

Sources say that a power struggle between Harkes and FC Cincinnati president and general manager Jeff Berding led to the abrupt coaching change, which caught players and staff by surprise, especially since Harkes was coaching the team as recently as Thursday.

Harkes could not be reached for comment when Goal attempted to contact him on Friday afternoon.

“After careful consideration of what is in the best interest of the FC Cincinnati organization, I have decided to relieve John Harkes of his duties as FCC head coach, effective immediately," Berding said in a team statement. 

 
Y'all notice that Ligue 1 is by far the most competitive big league this season? Chelsea, Real, Juve, and Bayern are running away with the titles right now, but PSG is in 3rd, and those top 3 are all really tight.  I pay approximately zero attention to the French teams. Anyone know what's going on there?

 
The Z Machine said:
Y'all notice that Ligue 1 is by far the most competitive big league this season? Chelsea, Real, Juve, and Bayern are running away with the titles right now, but PSG is in 3rd, and those top 3 are all really tight.  I pay approximately zero attention to the French teams. Anyone know what's going on there?
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No the zlatan.

 
NewlyRetired said:
The former U.S. national team captain is out as head coach of USL side FC Cincinnati after just one season in charge, sources tell Goal.

Since FC Cincinnati launched as a USL expansion team a year ago, the team has been led by head coach John Harkes, a man who had come to be synonymous with the thriving club and its record-setting crowds.

Those crowds will have a new coach to cheer for though, as Harkes' tenure with Cincinnati has come to an end. Sources told Goal  on Friday that Harkes had been replaced as manager by assistant coach Alan Koch, with the club confirming the moves Friday night. 

Sources say that a power struggle between Harkes and FC Cincinnati president and general manager Jeff Berding led to the abrupt coaching change, which caught players and staff by surprise, especially since Harkes was coaching the team as recently as Thursday.

Harkes could not be reached for comment when Goal attempted to contact him on Friday afternoon.

“After careful consideration of what is in the best interest of the FC Cincinnati organization, I have decided to relieve John Harkes of his duties as FCC head coach, effective immediately," Berding said in a team statement. 
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Hate to see these kind of internal struggles play out - hope it does not spill over into the fantastic support the club got from the community.

I wonder if this will impact Cincinnati's chances with MLS.

 
2017 Carolina Challenge Cup started last night.

Atlanta United beat Columbus Crew 2-1
Charleston Battery and Seattle Sounder drew 1-1

Wednesday 2/22:
Charleston v Columbus
Atlanta v Seattle
Saturday 2/25:
Charleston v Atlanta
Columbus v Seattle

 
Mjolnirs said:
2017 Carolina Challenge Cup started last night.

Atlanta United beat Columbus Crew 2-1
Charleston Battery and Seattle Sounder drew 1-1

Wednesday 2/22:
Charleston v Columbus
Atlanta v Seattle
Saturday 2/25:
Charleston v Atlanta
Columbus v Seattle
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I think Columbus beat Atlanta 2-1

 
The Z Machine said:
Y'all notice that Ligue 1 is by far the most competitive big league this season? Chelsea, Real, Juve, and Bayern are running away with the titles right now, but PSG is in 3rd, and those top 3 are all really tight.  I pay approximately zero attention to the French teams. Anyone know what's going on there?
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I only know that Scooby has got me revved up for Monaco-Citeh.

 
AAABatteries said:
Full draw

Chelsea v United

Middlesbrough v Huddersfield/Man City

Totts v Millwall

Sutton/Arsenal v Lincoln 
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Millwall has now beaten three consecutive Premier League teams, with some classic Millwall ugliness in the second against Watford. Its probably less than an hour from Millwall to White Hart Lane - not an easy day.

Chelsea hosting United will be great.

 
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