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kinda interesting...

"Why did Zlatan not get on at Barcelona?" Ingla said in an interview with Telefoot. "He's a beast, a machine. But he was next to another machine, a smaller one [laughs].

"He was too static and Messi perhaps needed more space. Zlatan occupied too much. There was a little friction, I think."

 
I took a gander at the PL table this morning and have to shake my head at these media folks who say this thing is over. Ten points is nothing with 13 games to play. Bigger leads have been lost many times in this league.* There are still 6 clubs that could win the league, and in their current form I think Everton has a shout at top 4.  Bottom of the table is also exciting.  This is going to be a great run to the finish.

* I just made this up. Sounds good and might be true.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
I took a gander at the PL table this morning and have to shake my head at these media folks who say this thing is over. Ten points is nothing with 13 games to play. Bigger leads have been lost many times in this league.* There are still 6 clubs that could win the league, and in their current form I think Everton has a shout at top 4.  Bottom of the table is also exciting.  This is going to be a great run to the finish.

* I just made this up. Sounds good and might be true.
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I think Newcastle blew a lead to Man U of about this much under Kevin Keegan's first go round.

I mean, Chelsea could always collapse, but we just haven't seen evidence that this is likely to happen.  Which means that City or maybe Spurs or Arsenal would likely need to go on a run where they just don't drop any points.  Assuming Chelsea just get 2 pts/g the rest of the way (so assume they lose to both Manchester teams and somehow drop 7 additional points from the rest which is worse than they've done to date), they're sitting at 86 points.  City could only drop 5 pts the rest of the way to match that.  Arsenal and Tottenham would need to drop just 3 pts. 

 
B Maverick said:
I think United was 8 up on City and City ultimately won on goal diff for the first title in a long time...
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I just scanned through that entire season, because I remember a big comeback too... it was nip-tuck all season- each team swapping positions at the top.

but largest differential I saw all season was 5 points. finally, United was up by 5 after 33 games. 

 
El Floppo said:
I just scanned through that entire season, because I remember a big comeback too... it was nip-tuck all season- each team swapping positions at the top.

but largest differential I saw all season was 5 points. finally, United was up by 5 after 33 games. 
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Hmm, I remember 8 at one point.  Maybe City had a game in hand?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/17853469

April: Title race thrown wide open

Manchester United's lead at the top of the standings increased further as wins over Blackburn and QPR combined with a damaging 1-0 defeat for Manchester City at Arsenal looked to have effectively secured them the title, with the gap between the two sides an intimidating eight points.

 
B Maverick said:
Hmm, I remember 8 at one point.  Maybe City had a game in hand?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/17853469

April: Title race thrown wide open

Manchester United's lead at the top of the standings increased further as wins over Blackburn and QPR combined with a damaging 1-0 defeat for Manchester City at Arsenal looked to have effectively secured them the title, with the gap between the two sides an intimidating eight points.
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I was looking here. doesn't appear to go game-by-game- just match week, where it only lists 5 points difference. but makes complete sense that at some point a win by united would push the lead to 8 while city hadn't played yet.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I think Newcastle blew a lead to Man U of about this much under Kevin Keegan's first go round.

I mean, Chelsea could always collapse, but we just haven't seen evidence that this is likely to happen.  Which means that City or maybe Spurs or Arsenal would likely need to go on a run where they just don't drop any points.  Assuming Chelsea just get 2 pts/g the rest of the way (so assume they lose to both Manchester teams and somehow drop 7 additional points from the rest which is worse than they've done to date), they're sitting at 86 points.  City could only drop 5 pts the rest of the way to match that.  Arsenal and Tottenham would need to drop just 3 pts. 
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Since my son is 12, he's only known great success for the two teams he's inherited from me - Chelsea and the Packers - while I've lived through decades of misery with both. I view it as my duty to impart a sense of caution and constant fear of impending doom when it comes to sports love. Walking the dog this morning, I admitted it would take an "epic disaster" for the Chels to finish outside the top 4, meaning we'll most likely be watching games on Tuesdays and Wednesdays again next season. As for the league title, I told him we can discuss that at Easter.

 
B Maverick said:
Kafka said:
Dzeko!
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90+4 AGUEROOOOOOOOOOOOOO sealed it.   :wall:

ETA SAF said he would never lose the title in that fashion again, bought RvP and won the next year running away....
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sergio with the goal, but why always super mario made it happen. his play is stenciled on my brain for that goal- more than sergio's finish.

eta: IIRC, United was already celebrating when word came in? am I misremembering that?

 
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El Floppo said:
sergio with the goal, but why always super mario made it happen. his play is stenciled on my brain for that goal- more than sergio's finish.

eta: IIRC, United was already celebrating when word came in? am I misremembering that?
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I think you are correct.  At least the celebration was building and ready to explode.  They were on the field watching and ready.  And City scores in FERGIE time to ruin it.

 
Atlanta United has sold more than 40,000 tickets for its season-opening game against New York Red Bulls on March 5 at Georgia Tech’s Bobby Dodd Stadium.
Club President Darren Eales said the team is on pace to sell out the stadium, which has a capacity of 55,000.
“We are going to go for it and look to sell it out,” he said.
The team sold more than 10,000 single-game tickets in seven days starting Feb. 2, when those ticket sales started. Those and sales of season-tickets spiked again following last week’s 4-0 win over Chattanooga.
Eales said the team is past 27,000 season-tickets sold and approaching 30,000, which was going to be the soft cap. Eales said they will consider increasing that cap if demand persists.
He said the MLS expansion franchise is selling more than 100 season tickets a day since Saturday.
Evidence of the interest could be seen on Saturday when more than 12,000 people attended the game at Finley Stadium. The walk-up crowd exceeded 7,000, which Eales estimated was mostly Atlanta United fans.
The 40,000 sales for the opener has exceeded the soft cap that the team planned as the soccer-configuration capacity for Mercedes-Benz Stadium. MLS average attendance last season was slightly more than 21,692.
Eales said season-tickets will be distributed later this week. The package will include the season-ticket card, a lanyard and commemorative box.
Eales said marketing will increase the home opener. Those efforts will include billboards and wraps on MARTA trains, busses and bus stops.
 
At the risk of combining two threads, it may be time to research cutting the cord (been looking through that thread).  But with United games (and soccer in general) spread accross NBCS, Foxsports, Bein I have been slow to do so.

Any of you guys cut the cord and still getting all your games?  Whats your setup/cost if you don't mind sharing?

 
B Maverick said:
At the risk of combining two threads, it may be time to research cutting the cord (been looking through that thread).  But with United games (and soccer in general) spread accross NBCS, Foxsports, Bein I have been slow to do so.

Any of you guys cut the cord and still getting all your games?  Whats your setup/cost if you don't mind sharing?
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:blackdot:  

 
I cut the cord last week. So far I've been fine just using sling tv as they do the FS's and NBCS games and I'm only paying 25 a month. I read that the fubo tv app was going to add a ton of networks but I haven't looked into that one yet. Also, I bought a fire stick and did the jail break, I need to start checking out ESPN on there to see if it works.

 
CGRdrJoe said:
I cut the cord last week. So far I've been fine just using sling tv as they do the FS's and NBCS games and I'm only paying 25 a month. I read that the fubo tv app was going to add a ton of networks but I haven't looked into that one yet. Also, I bought a fire stick and did the jail break, I need to start checking out ESPN on there to see if it works.
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awesome!

now explain all of that like I didn't understand any of it.

because I didn't understand any of it.

 
B Maverick said:
At the risk of combining two threads, it may be time to research cutting the cord (been looking through that thread).  But with United games (and soccer in general) spread accross NBCS, Foxsports, Bein I have been slow to do so.

Any of you guys cut the cord and still getting all your games?  Whats your setup/cost if you don't mind sharing?
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I subscribe to a Playstation Vue package for $35/mo which has NBC Sports, Bein, espn and fox plus a ton of other sports and other stuff my family watches. It also gives access to the NBC Sports app which I can use to watch games, highlights, etc. while travelling. It also has a quasi-dvr function, so all the games are essentially saved for a while to watch when I want. I stream it through an Amazon Fire.

 
Nice pick up by Vancouver just before their CCL quarter finals with NY Red Bulls

VANCOUVER, BC - Vancouver Whitecaps FC announced on Wednesday that the club has acquired striker Fredy Montero as a Designated Player on a one-year loan from Chinese Super League club Tianjin Teda. Whitecaps FC acquired Montero via the Major League Soccer Allocation Process after the club secured the #1 spot in the Allocation Ranking Order from Minnesota United FC in exchange for $100,000 in General Allocation Money in 2018, $125,000 in Targeted Allocation Money in 2018, and an international roster spot through 2017.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Nice pick up by Vancouver just before their CCL quarter finals with NY Red Bulls

VANCOUVER, BC - Vancouver Whitecaps FC announced on Wednesday that the club has acquired striker Fredy Montero as a Designated Player on a one-year loan from Chinese Super League club Tianjin Teda. Whitecaps FC acquired Montero via the Major League Soccer Allocation Process after the club secured the #1 spot in the Allocation Ranking Order from Minnesota United FC in exchange for $100,000 in General Allocation Money in 2018, $125,000 in Targeted Allocation Money in 2018, and an international roster spot through 2017.
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oh.. thought I posted this yesterday.

agree- it's a great pickup. fredy was a beast in MLS previously- so doesn't have to take the mandatory year to figure out travel, turf, 90% humidity, etc.

 
key words are "may be", "anecdotal" and "tentative"... but I'm sure this is going to prompt mass-freak-outs in suburban US.

from BBC

Football headers 'linked to brain damage'

By Smitha MundasadHealth reporter

5 hours ago

Repeated headers during a footballer's professional career may be linked to long-term brain damage, according to tentative evidence from UK scientists.

The research follows anecdotal reports that players who head balls may be more prone to developing dementia later in life.

The Football Association says it will look at this area more closely.

Experts said recreational players were unlikely to incur problems.

Damage "covered up" says Ian St John

Dawn Astle, the daughter of former England and West Brom striker Jeff Astle, who died aged 59 suffering from early onset dementia, said it was "obvious that it [his dementia] was linked to his footballing career".

The inquest into his death in 2002 found that repeatedly heading heavy leather footballs had contributed to trauma to his brain.

Ms Astle told BBC Radio 5 Live: "At the coroner's inquest, football tried to sweep his death under a carpet. They didn't want to know, they didn't want to think that football could be a killer and sadly, it is. It can be."

She said her father was 55 and physically very fit when he went to the doctor, who diagnosed him with the early onset of dementia.

By the end he "didn't even know he'd ever been a footballer", she said, before adding: "Everything football ever gave him, football had taken away."

Media captionJeff Astle's daughter tells Today it's "unforgivable" the problem was ignored for so long

Researchers from University College London and Cardiff University examined the brains of five people who had been professional footballers and one who had been a committed amateur throughout his life.

They had played football for an average of 26 years and all six went on to develop dementia in their 60s.

While performing post mortem examinations, scientists found signs of brain injury - called chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) in four cases.

CTE has been linked to memory loss, depression and dementia and has been seen in other contact sports.

Prof Huw Morris, of University College London, told the BBC: "When we examined their brains at autopsy we saw the sorts of changes that are seen in ex-boxers, the changes that are often associated with repeated brain injury which are known as CTE.

"So really for the first time in a series of players we have shown that there is evidence that head injury has occurred earlier in their life which presumably has some impact on them developing dementia."

In the study, published in the journal Acta Neuropathologica, the report's authors make it clear they were not analysing the risks of heading by children.

But the science is far from clear-cut.

Each brain also showed signs of Alzheimer's disease and some had blood vessel changes that can also lead to dementia.

Researchers speculate that it was a combination of factors that contributed to dementia in these players.

But they acknowledge their research cannot definitively prove a link between football and dementia and are calling for larger studies to look at footballers' long-term brain health.

Dr David Reynolds, at the charity Alzheimer's Research UK, said: "The causes of dementia are complex and it is likely that the condition is caused by a combination of age, lifestyle and genetic factors.

"Further research is needed to shed light on how lifestyle factors such as playing sport may alter dementia risk, and how this sits in the context of the well-established benefits of being physically active."

He added that for people who are recreational footballers, football injuries are unlikely to cause long-term problems and he pointed to expert advice that the benefit of exercise is likely to outweigh the risks.

A number of previous cases involving boxers and American footballers have suggested that repetitive blows can cause long-lasting and progressive brain damage.

But until now there have only been a few case reports of individual footballers with CTE in the UK and the extent of the issue is still unknown.

The Football Association welcomed the study and said research was particularly needed to find out whether degenerative brain disease is more common in ex-footballers.

Dr Charlotte Cowie, of the FA, added: "The FA is determined to support this research and is also committed to ensuring that any research process is independent, robust and thorough, so that when the results emerge, everyone in the game can be confident in its findings."
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NYCFC sign Maxi Moralez from Club Leon as their third DP.  He's an Argentinian attacking MF.  I have no idea on the setup, but it puts Shelton on the bench.  

 
El Floppo said:
my brain immediately made him Rodriguez. don't know this Maxi.
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Don't know him either, but it sounds fun.  Apparently he speaks both Spanish and Italian which may have been the only requirement.  

They also got the 19-year old maybe-ok-not wunderkin Yangel Herrera from the parent "on-loan".  Going to be a whole lot of 4-3 games this year.  

 
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