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United's Europa Draw:

HOME GAMES: Rangers, PAOK, Bodo/Glimt, Twente
AWAY GAMES: Porto, Fenerbahce, Viktoria Plzen, FCSB

A date with Jose and Fred at Fenerbahce awaits.
 
🚨⚪️ EXCLUSIVE: Tottenham are closing in on deal to agree on priority option to sign Johnny Cardoso from Real Betis in the future!

#THFC will also buy a percentage on future sale in case they decide against signing him. 🧨🇺🇸

⚪️🟢 It’s part of the deal for Gio Lo Celso to Betis

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Lol... I STILL really don't get Johnny. Good player and all, but his lack of field coverage and quickness is something that must be only in my eyes.

And yet all around hustling jackknife Swag gets no love every single off season.
 
El Floppo said:
Lol... I STILL really don't get Johnny. Good player and all, but his lack of field coverage and quickness is something that must be only in my eyes.

And yet all around hustling jackknife Swag gets no love every single off season.
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Wish I had known/remembered he was with Betis. Would have watched for him in the Betis v United preseason game in San Diego to see how he looked.
 
B Maverick said:
El Floppo said:
Lol... I STILL really don't get Johnny. Good player and all, but his lack of field coverage and quickness is something that must be only in my eyes.

And yet all around hustling jackknife Swag gets no love every single off season.
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Wish I had known/remembered he was with Betis. Would have watched for him in the Betis v United preseason game in San Diego to see how he looked.
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That would've been really interesting.

I've watched some of his Betis games on TV, but as a 6 most of what I assume he's doing is off screen... So it's not a very complete snapshot of a pisition that rates off the ball movement as much as anything else.
 
El Floppo said:
B Maverick said:
El Floppo said:
Lol... I STILL really don't get Johnny. Good player and all, but his lack of field coverage and quickness is something that must be only in my eyes.

And yet all around hustling jackknife Swag gets no love every single off season.
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Wish I had known/remembered he was with Betis. Would have watched for him in the Betis v United preseason game in San Diego to see how he looked.
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That would've been really interesting.

I've watched some of his Betis games on TV, but as a 6 most of what I assume he's doing is off screen... So it's not a very complete snapshot of a pisition that rates off the ball movement as much as anything else.
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USMNT needs another 6 to emerge either as support or competition for Adams. Would have paid more attention from the stands.
 
B Maverick said:
El Floppo said:
B Maverick said:
El Floppo said:
Lol... I STILL really don't get Johnny. Good player and all, but his lack of field coverage and quickness is something that must be only in my eyes.

And yet all around hustling jackknife Swag gets no love every single off season.
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Wish I had known/remembered he was with Betis. Would have watched for him in the Betis v United preseason game in San Diego to see how he looked.
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That would've been really interesting.

I've watched some of his Betis games on TV, but as a 6 most of what I assume he's doing is off screen... So it's not a very complete snapshot of a pisition that rates off the ball movement as much as anything else.
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USMNT needs another 6 to emerge either as support or competition for Adams. Would have paid more attention from the stands.
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That's why I'm interested in seeing more of Maloney
 
NewlyRetired said:
This new Champions League format will be interesting to see how it works.

I believe the format of 8 groups of 4, top 2 advance, was near perfection in both Champions League and WC and I am disappointed I may never see that format again.
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The point of groups is that it was kind of a necessity in the ages of limited logistics and resources. Now that every team in the CL has their own private plane, it's an anachronism. As long as those fans who will travel away have enough notice to get to the games, this system is far better
 
El Floppo said:
Lol... I STILL really don't get Johnny. Good player and all, but his lack of field coverage and quickness is something that must be only in my eyes.

And yet all around hustling jackknife Swag gets no love every single off season.
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I have never heard of a deal like that.

The Reguilon talks were dragging, and it seems like the Spurs optioned this guy? Like Real Betis threw in a right of first refusal?

This is pretty interesting:
There's something very Tottenham Hotspur-like even with a potential unusual deal on transfer deadline day that does not involve them actually signing a player but instead suggesting they might possibly, potentially, perhaps one day.

With further incoming signings for this window ruled out by Ange Postecoglou on Friday and that now proved to be the case, a reported future agreement involving Johnny Cardoso has come about because of Spurs' desire to move on Giovani Lo Celso and Real Betis' need to bring their former midfielder back to Spain after Nabil Fekir left and the La Liga side were unable to bring in Dani Ceballos from Real Madrid. Cash seems to be something Betis aren't exactly rolling in and neither are suitors for Lo Celso, so a creative solution had to be sought.

Lo Celso's time at Tottenham is over. The Argentine looked like he might have a resurgence after impressing Postecoglou last summer only for a combination of injuries and the Australian just not consistently using him when fit with the lack of matches making his departure this summer inevitable.

That's because five years on from the now infamous summer transfer window of 2019 when around £140million was, in hindsight, thrown away on Lo Celso, Tanguy Ndombele and Ryan Sessegnon, the former has less than 12 months left on his contract after the other two departed this summer.

Postecoglou made it clear to football.london on Friday that if Lo Celso and Sergio Reguilon did not leave the club then that was their decision and would not affect his squad for the season ahead.

"No, they don't have to get integrated back to the squad. It's their decisions. It's pretty clear where they sit in terms of where we are as a squad and where we are as a team, but, you know, I've never been one to force people out," he said. "They've got decisions about their own careers and what they want to do, and if they're still here, they're still here. We'll work around that scenario, but it certainly won't affect the way we work in the first team."
Those last few words hinted strongly at where Lo Celso's immediate future might lie if he remains at the north London club. Nothing currently is happening with Reguilon, although it's worth noting that numerous other countries' transfer windows remain open beyond this evening.

Lo Celso has a potential exit route though in Betis. While no formal final agreement is believed to have been reached just yet there is hope it will get there shortly. Betis' offer for him is reportedly a relatively nominal figure but in essence that is for only 50% of the Argentina international, meaning Spurs will retain a sell-on clause for the remaining 50%. On top of that package, Tottenham will also reportedly get a slice of Cardoso, as it were.

What that means according to reports appears to be either a priority option to sign the 22-year-old midfielder in the future for a lower set price - claimed by some to be around £25million - or if they choose not to take up that option then that deal instead becomes a sell-on clause for a player they do not even own.

Tottenham have remained silent about any such agreement and if it comes out officially in the public domain it is likely to come from the Betis side. It's a strange deal for a Premier League team but is one that's more commonplace on the continent and other parts of the world, and it's a way of Spurs essentially getting a better deal for Lo Celso, but down the line.

For the north London club to show an interest in the tough-tackling USA international Cardoso, who has been linked with Barcelona and AC Milan this summer, makes sense. The midfielder, who wears the name Johnny on the back of his shirt and was born in New Jersey to Brazilian parents before growing up in South America, is a young No.6 with plenty of ability and experience, and the ability to mop up in the midfield with tackles, blocks and interceptions aplenty.

He played 144 times for Internacional in Brazil before moving to Betis last season and starting most matches for the La Liga side. Cardoso is represented by the AIS Football Agency, who also look after Emerson Royal, who moved from Spurs to AC Milan this summer.

This season Postecoglou has depth in his No.6 options with Yves Bissouma, Rodrigo Bentancur and £40million summer signing Archie Gray. However, what happens to Bissouma in the coming 12 months is very much down to the Mali international and his situation beyond this season remains unclear.

Bissouma, who turned 28 on transfer deadline day, has worked hard in the fortnight since being suspended for one game by the club after uploading videos of himself inhaling nitrous oxide, which has been illegal to do since last year, but that is only the first steps on the path for him to rebuild his trust with the Tottenham head coach.
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Napoli have officially excluded Victor Osimhen from their Serie A squad list for the season!Osimhen and Mario Rui are both OUT as Napoli consider them out of the project.Relationship broken with both players… they also want to leave but on their terms.
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From Fab Romano.

Maybe some fans who know more than me can chime in, if Napoli have excluded Osimhen from their squad, can he not play for them this season, at all?
Or can they bring him in whenever they want?
 
massraider said:
Napoli have officially excluded Victor Osimhen from their Serie A squad list for the season!Osimhen and Mario Rui are both OUT as Napoli consider them out of the project.Relationship broken with both players… they also want to leave but on their terms.
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From Fab Romano.

Maybe some fans who know more than me can chime in, if Napoli have excluded Osimhen from their squad, can he not play for them this season, at all?
Or can they bring him in whenever they want?
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Good question. The report is that they’ve given Lukaku his #9 and the relationship is totally broken so it seems unlikely in any event. The Saudi league transfer window is still open so he could still move but I think the team that was interested in Oshimen is the same one that just signed Toney.
 
CletiusMaximus said:
massraider said:
Napoli have officially excluded Victor Osimhen from their Serie A squad list for the season!Osimhen and Mario Rui are both OUT as Napoli consider them out of the project.Relationship broken with both players… they also want to leave but on their terms.
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From Fab Romano.

Maybe some fans who know more than me can chime in, if Napoli have excluded Osimhen from their squad, can he not play for them this season, at all?
Or can they bring him in whenever they want?
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Good question. The report is that they’ve given Lukaku his #9 and the relationship is totally broken so it seems unlikely in any event. The Saudi league transfer window is still open so he could still move but I think the team that was interested in Oshimen is the same one that just signed Toney.
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Soccer Twitter is bashing Osimhen's agent, but this guy makes it sound like Napoli tried to squeeze Al-Ahli for an extra 10 mill at the last minute.

That sounds feasible to me.
 
Any of you read Goal dot com?

Always on my news feed with stories about players and topics I'm interested. And always horribly written.

Story about PSVs last game, talking about US players Tillman and Pepi. Completely ignored Richie even playing, let alone starting and going 90 once again.

Article about Swags minutes yesterday being disappointing and ineffectual because Juve couldn't muster more than 1 shot. but not talking about them relative to Luizs, who subbed in at the exact same time. Or mentioning that it was Swags firstinutes, perhaps a sign he's working his way into the roster. And then talking about the continued disappointment of not getting called up without mentioning it was to continue bolstering his presence with the new coach.

Most of the time they're just click bait articles... But about the stuff that I'm interested in so I keep falling for it.
 
CletiusMaximus said:
I love it when this happens


@AlxRuiz15
Reports from Spain coming out that Gaston Brugman has reached out to his former club, Real Oviedo, that he’s interested in returning. His contract is up at the end of 2025 season. Brugman is a fan favorite for Oviedo fans. The Euro transfer window closes on Aug. 31. #LAGalaxy


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Gaston Brugman
@gastonbrugman

This is not true.


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No one sports like Gaston.
Wears short shorts like Gaston.
Likes to dispute unsourced reports like Gaston …
 
El Floppo said:
Any of you read Goal dot com?

Always on my news feed with stories about players and topics I'm interested. And always horribly written.

Story about PSVs last game, talking about US players Tillman and Pepi. Completely ignored Richie even playing, let alone starting and going 90 once again.

Article about Swags minutes yesterday being disappointing and ineffectual because Juve couldn't muster more than 1 shot. but not talking about them relative to Luizs, who subbed in at the exact same time. Or mentioning that it was Swags firstinutes, perhaps a sign he's working his way into the roster. And then talking about the continued disappointment of not getting called up without mentioning it was to continue bolstering his presence with the new coach.

Most of the time they're just click bait articles... But about the stuff that I'm interested in so I keep falling for it.
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I think I read it a bunch about 15 years ago. Sounds like it is about the same level of quality.
 
Toney got a pretty nice contract from the Sheiks.

Toney’s four-year deal will land him basic pay of around £400,000 per week after tax. It is understood add-ons and performance-related bonuses would take his salary to towards £500,000 across his contract. To earn the same take-home pay in the UK after tax would need wages close to £1 million per week.
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www.telegraph.co.uk

Ivan Toney to bank UK equivalent of £1m a week in Saudi Arabia

Striker’s £40 million move to Middle East to join Al-Ahli from Brentford will make him one of the best-paid English players in game
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CletiusMaximus said:
massraider said:
Osimhen doing a loan with a Saudi team.

I assume he's gonna want to make a January move
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I read it was Galatasaray. He could still be looking to move in January but I would expect Gala to want to keep him a full season.
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Yeah very weird situation with him. Last summer hes a 100m striker option other than Harry Kane. This year he can be had for 60m, Saudi teams and Chelsea want him, but nothing ever gets agreed. Napoli then says well you want out now you have to sit 6 months because you don't want to be here. Hey a loan to Galatasaray with an out clause in January if any teams want you works for everyone. I believe Gala gets a part of the sale if he does leave them in Jan.

Was he that bad last season that his price was cut in half and no one still wanted him?
 
B Maverick said:
CletiusMaximus said:
massraider said:
Osimhen doing a loan with a Saudi team.

I assume he's gonna want to make a January move
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I read it was Galatasaray. He could still be looking to move in January but I would expect Gala to want to keep him a full season.
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Yeah very weird situation with him. Last summer hes a 100m striker option other than Harry Kane. This year he can be had for 60m, Saudi teams and Chelsea want him, but nothing ever gets agreed. Napoli then says well you want out now you have to sit 6 months because you don't want to be here. Hey a loan to Galatasaray with an out clause in January if any teams want you works for everyone. I believe Gala gets a part of the sale if he does leave them in Jan.

Was he that bad last season that his price was cut in half and no one still wanted him?
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Crazy to think they wanted NO part of him this season, even without a sale. That's some dug in feet and/or burned bridges.
 
B Maverick said:
CletiusMaximus said:
massraider said:
Osimhen doing a loan with a Saudi team.

I assume he's gonna want to make a January move
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I read it was Galatasaray. He could still be looking to move in January but I would expect Gala to want to keep him a full season.
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Yeah very weird situation with him. Last summer hes a 100m striker option other than Harry Kane. This year he can be had for 60m, Saudi teams and Chelsea want him, but nothing ever gets agreed. Napoli then says well you want out now you have to sit 6 months because you don't want to be here. Hey a loan to Galatasaray with an out clause in January if any teams want you works for everyone. I believe Gala gets a part of the sale if he does leave them in Jan.

Was he that bad last season that his price was cut in half and no one still wanted him?
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Agreed its very odd. Conte wanted Lukaku but I think maybe Oshimen had already burned his bridges at Napoli. There was a strange incident last year where the Napoli social media account made a post that seemed like they were mocking him for missing a penalty. He flew into a Diva rage act and I think the die was cast. It seemed there was very little market for him this summer, but I think his contract demands had alot to do with that. PSG sniffed around for a while but backed out. I've never seen him play and have no idea how good he is.
 
Bolivia's home games used to be in La Paz, which I believe was the highest elevation in the world for international soccer.

They built a new stadium in El Alto where they will now be playing all their home games. As you could maybe guess from the name of the City, this place is an insane 1840 meters HIGHER than La Paz was.

El Alto is 4150 meters above sea level.

For a point of reference, Denver is 1609 meters above sea level.
 
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El Floppo said:
NewlyRetired said:
El Floppo said:
guru_007 said:
San Marino!!
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I didn't realize the significance when you posted this...

1st EVER competitive win.
1st win of any kind in 20 years.
Lowest ranked team in the world.

Eta... And for regional comparison, they tied Nevis/St Kitts recently.
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Another fun piece is who they beat 20 years ago...
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Tottenham?
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I was going to guess United, but 20 years ago United was good. They may beat United now.
 
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