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Looking up to see who the American Swansea owner was-

Stephen Kaplan was a noted paranormal investigator, vampirologist, and founder/director of the Vampire Research Center and the Parapsychology Institute of America, both of which were founded in Suffolk

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Dr. Who?

 
Torchwood, IMO
I am guessing he tried to buy Cardiff first?   

On a completely unrelated unrelated topic - I swear! - I was checking out Swansea, and then Cardiff on google maps earlier.  Turns out they have 360o views inside of some buildings now - and sure enough I checked out the Dr. Who Experience in Cardiff.... :oldunsure:

my link

 
Sinn Fein said:
Dislike.  Tom Baker had to deal with the biggest moral dilemma of our time...to end the Dalek race, or to allow them to exist, & ruin our subsequent future.  Hope your happy by trivializing serious #### like this .

 
D-Fense 

Spurs have now faced the two highest scoring teams in the league and have conceded only 1 goal - a dubious penalty.  No goals conceded from open play for the season from Spurs...

 
D-Fense 

Spurs have now faced the two highest scoring teams in the league and have conceded only 1 goal - a dubious penalty.  No goals conceded from open play for the season from Spurs, until their annual 5-0 trip to Anfield...




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If it was not for Liverpool, Spurs would not be where they are today.  Liverpool thrashed Spurs at WHL in 2013, which led directly to AVB getting sacked, which led to that period-we-shall-not-name, which led to Pochettino's glorious reign.  So, here's to you, long-suffering-liverpool fans :banned:  Spurs send their regards.

 
Cincy set the single game USL attendance record with over 30k showing for their playoff game.

They may have been treated to a goal of the season type goal today as well.  You can't strike a ball better than this.

https://streamable.com/bo96

 
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Congrats to Bob Bradley, new Swansea manager.

Please dont #### it up.

Eta... first US manager in any of the big leagues

 
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Seems to be going over well with Swansea supporters :oldunsure:

The club can go #### themselves.
Unless there is something behind the scene we don't know about, this seems idiotic at best.
Bob ####### Bradley are you ####### kidding me? The highest he's reached in club level is the ####### 2nd division in a ####### half rate French league. Thanks Yanks, you've ####### ruined all our hard work up until this point. 

As I said in the other thread, we're almost doomed to relegation now. But, we've had a good run and done better than almost all the pundits said we would when we first came up.
I didn't think it could worse! #### these new owners
How the #### must be players be feeling right now. They've worked their asses off the last few games and now their gaffer is sacked and replaced by some ####### yank nobody. What the #### is going on?

 
yeah... was never going to go over well with the locals. especially after the team finally looked decent and well organized, albeit in the loss.

I really hope he's able to keep them up. 

again- I'm a supporter of his. played against his teams at Princeton and always found them very well organized and playing as a sum greater than their parts. I thought he was able to keep the US team competitive in the same way. don't know that there's a big upside with what he brings- but hope the LCD is enough to keep them up and keep him employed there.

 
and somebody should let them know he brought a team from norway to the CL. might not have performed as well as Swansea has in the CL but... oh... right.

 
Just took a look at Swansea's schedule:

@ Burnley - W

Hull - L - obviously a bad loss at home

@ Leicester - L - no shame in a 1-goal loss 

Chelsea - D - not a great Chelsea squad, but still a good result for Swans

@ Southampton - L - dropped a 0-1 loss away

Man City - L - Actually dropped two in a row at home to City, including Cup match - but not an embarrassing result

Liverpool - L - We all know Swans were cheated here.

Pretty tough opening 7 games, all things considered.  Realistically they probably should have been looking at 5 points, instead of 4, but they have performed reasonably well.  I think they have some nice pieces in place.

Bradley opens up @ Arsenal - probably just going to fire up the locals even more.  Then they get a couple of games where they need to find a win - Watford at home, and away to Stoke.  Will be interesting to see how Bradley sets up - I have not really followed his career since the National team enough to know what his preferred set-up will look like - or whether Swansea have the right players to play his style.

 
Unfortunate luck yesterday.  Hit the bar twice, some great saves out of the Stoke Keeper.  Zlatan and Pogba should have scored early and been up 4-0 at the half.  One of those games I guess.

At the end of the day it was a good effort and fun to watch.  The balance is better with no Roo or Fro. SO much better.  They play faster and actually look threatening.  And Roo with another misplay into an assist after being subbed in.  Feel bad for Cameron who had a good game but took the ball off Rooneys foot right to Martial for the goal.  Good to see Martial back on the scoresheet.

Up next after the int break? ? LIVERPOOL

 
Unfortunate luck yesterday.  Hit the bar twice, some great saves out of the Stoke Keeper.  Zlatan and Pogba should have scored early and been up 4-0 at the half.  One of those games I guess.

At the end of the day it was a good effort and fun to watch.  The balance is better with no Roo or Fro. SO much better.  They play faster and actually look threatening.  And Roo with another misplay into an assist after being subbed in.  Feel bad for Cameron who had a good game but took the ball off Rooneys foot right to Martial for the goal.  Good to see Martial back on the scoresheet.

Up next after the int break? ? LIVERPOOL
agree with all of that. United's attack looked smooth- and as you say could/should've been 4 or 5 goals. Zlatan is able to find a few great opportunities each game... scary to think what's going to happen when they start going in more regularly.

that united goal- stoke was countering, and I remember watching cameron make a rare run forward, but the stoke guy leading the counter- allen? or shakira.. held the ball waaaaay too long, ultimately dribbling into 2 or 3 united defenders who stripped him and then started their own counter, leaving cameron naturally stuck up field. credit to him for his hustle to get back and "strip" rooney of the ball with a clear shot looming.

 
agree with all of that. United's attack looked smooth- and as you say could/should've been 4 or 5 goals. Zlatan is able to find a few great opportunities each game... scary to think what's going to happen when they start going in more regularly.


We saw that the first three weeks of the season, but they are sooo reliant on Zlatan to score...

IF Zlatan doesn't score they won't win many games. When Liverpool had Suarez, they still had Sturridge chip in with 20+ goals. United need that from Martial or Rashford, or both

 
We saw that the first three weeks of the season, but they are sooo reliant on Zlatan to score...

IF Zlatan doesn't score they won't win many games. When Liverpool had Suarez, they still had Sturridge chip in with 20+ goals. United need that from Martial or Rashford, or both
dunno- Pogba's getting good chances, and usually a few are coming by way of Mata or the other wide players. I think they're going to be scoring a lot of goals from all areas once it starts clicking. plus, even if your version holds true- LC won the league with two guys scoring and/or assisting goals. 

 
dunno- Pogba's getting good chances, and usually a few are coming by way of Mata or the other wide players. I think they're going to be scoring a lot of goals from all areas once it starts clicking. plus, even if your version holds true- LC won the league with two guys scoring and/or assisting goals. 


LC had a better defense than Liverpool and United look to be giving up 40>, maybe...

 
Looking forward to seeing how far Spurs drop in @shader weekly rankings...
I was quite impressed.  The Spurs defense is great and is everything I wish Liverpool could be defensively.

I stand by what I wrote a few weeks ago..Liverpool and the Spurs are very close.  Liverpool is better offensively and Tottenham is better defensively.

In any event, I'm glad Tottenham knocked City off their perch, it was getting out of hand.

 
agree with all of that. United's attack looked smooth- and as you say could/should've been 4 or 5 goals. Zlatan is able to find a few great opportunities each game... scary to think what's going to happen when they start going in more regularly.

that united goal- stoke was countering, and I remember watching cameron make a rare run forward, but the stoke guy leading the counter- allen? or shakira.. held the ball waaaaay too long, ultimately dribbling into 2 or 3 united defenders who stripped him and then started their own counter, leaving cameron naturally stuck up field. credit to him for his hustle to get back and "strip" rooney of the ball with a clear shot looming.
Scary how they spent this much money and still can't score?  I mean...Everyone has been scoring goals against Stoke.  Drawing 1-1 at home against Stoke is a bad result, regardless of how good they may have looked at times.

 
Scary how they spent this much money and still can't score?  I mean...Everyone has been scoring goals against Stoke.  Drawing 1-1 at home against Stoke is a bad result, regardless of how good they may have looked at times.
Yes a draw is a bad result, esp with the teams above them getting good ones.  But unlike years past (already talking about how they are behind last years points pace), the play is encouraging and fun to watch.  You feel like any moment they could unleash a 6 goal attack on anyone.  

 
I get that circumstances are different because of United's 3 loss streak earlier, but I view the Stoke game the way I viewed the Liverpool/Burnley game.  Sometimes the result doesn't reflect the performance.  As the managers say, "That's football."

At the highest level, sure, Championships are often won by who has gotten the best results out of not great performances.  But in general, if you want an indicator of where the team should be in the table, look at performances.  Even with the Leicester result flattering Man U a bit, that's two strong performances in a row from United.  And they started with several strong performances as well. 

 
Scary how they spent this much money and still can't score?  I mean...Everyone has been scoring goals against Stoke.  Drawing 1-1 at home against Stoke is a bad result, regardless of how good they may have looked at times.
its about creating good chances- which they did and are. with these level of players, the ball is going to go in if they keep creating the chances.

and they've scored 13 goals- behind only city, liverpool (18) and arsenal (16)... not like they "still can't score". given the chances created, they certainly could and should be at about the 18 goal mark.

that's part of what makes LC's run last year so astonishing to me- they only carved out a few chances per game and finished enough to win.

 
its about creating good chances- which they did and are. with these level of players, the ball is going to go in if they keep creating the chances.

and they've scored 13 goals- behind only city, liverpool (18) and arsenal (16)... not like they "still can't score". given the chances created, they certainly could and should be at about the 18 goal mark.

that's part of what makes LC's run last year so astonishing to me- they only carved out a few chances per game and finished enough to win.
We're only 7 games in.  That 5 goal difference between City/LIV and ManU is pretty massive, especially for people with knee-jerk reactions like me!

I mean, look at the flip-side, defense.  Every single discussion of Liverpool begins and ends with "well if only they can get that defense fixed". 

Liverpool have allowed 10 goals and ManU have allowed 8, while City and Arsenal have allowed 7. 

In any event, the LIV/ManU game in 2 weeks is going to be a lot of fun.  

 
We can agree that the loser of that match is done though, right?
At this point I think United could be but not Liverpool.  More of a must win for United (as far as the table, not looking at the rivalry or anything else).  Neither will want to lose of course.

A United win puts them level with Liverpool on pts and reduces the point diff (currently at 3).  They would be anywhere from 4th-6th depending on results out of Everton and Chelsea.  Both would still be in striking difference with the gap remaining 5 behind City.  A Liverpool win drops United 8 points behind and opens them up to being behind Chelsea and CP in 8th and 8 points behind City.  Not deadly but not looking good.  A draw again helps Liverpool more then United.  Its at Anfield I believe as well.

Let's just say, they won't be in good shape in the 'ol power rankings.
That's probably true though.

And it is still early enough where everyone still has at least 1 game vs those above in the table and in a lot of cases, two games.  October after the break will be telling for United with a tough fixture list and high profile games.

EPL games at Liverpool 
Europa vs Fenerbache
EPL at Chelsea,
League cup game vs City
EPL vs Burnley

All 5 of these games are between 10/17 and 10/29, playing Monday, Thursday, Sunday, Wed, Saturday....

 

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