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AAABatteries said:
Atlanta (or Orlando) can really put a marker down for a playoff spot if they get 4 or 6 points in the back-to-back
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Not bad travel time to Atlanta from Orlando about 6 hours .So I may try to go to the one in Atlanta too.Even though I am going to go out of the way and go through N.C. and S.C. to go back home from Indy to avoid Atlanta traffic.It was so bad up there on 75 I swore I would never drive through Atlanta again

 
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Hey fire fans. Where in Chicago should I go watch the Atlanta United match Friday night and then the fire match Saturday night? I'll have kids with me.

TIA

 
NewlyRetired said:
awesome!  Some one in the US thread also posted they got some for their family.

What method did you use to get these?  Were they AO tickets or some other presale method?
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think it mighta been a USSF interest list - I live one town over from RBA so maybe that factored in.

-QG

 
NewlyRetired said:
I did not mention it in my post but neither Dwyer nor Acosta were chosen by either the fans or the coach (Chicago's coach).

They were both Garber's picks.
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Fans and Paunavich have to own Howard and Frei though. Neither are among the league leaders in any metric. SOs, Save %, GAA, Wins. Nothing. 

 
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Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Fans and Paunavich have to own Howard and Frei though. Neither are among the league leaders in any metric. SOs, Save %, GAA, Wins. Nothing. 
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You can't blame fans IMO.  In ever single sport fans vote for the most popular player, which is Howard by leaps and bounds at keeper.  

The only thing I can think of with Paunavich is that he was instructed to spread the picks around the best he could.  There might have been some business reasons behind making sure the second biggest fan base in the league had a representative.   

Just guessing here.

 
NewlyRetired said:
You can't blame fans IMO.  In ever single sport fans vote for the most popular player, which is Howard by leaps and bounds at keeper.  

The only thing I can think of with Paunavich is that he was instructed to spread the picks around the best he could.  There might have been some business reasons behind making sure the second biggest fan base in the league had a representative.   

Just guessing here.
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Fire haven't played SKC yet, apparently. Looking at the keeper stats, poor Hamid has just been peppered with shots this year. Don't know how they broke Birnbaum, but he turned into a pumpkin overnight. 

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I get that a ton of Chicago guys made it, but it's been an awesome turnaround. 
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Arguably the best turn around in league history IMO (at least so far).  This team was awful for years on end.

With the game in Chicago and the coach from Chicago, it makes sense they had the most players especially when they are a very good team.

 
Here is a 4-2-3-1 that was suggested as a possible starting line up.

..........................Howard

..Grana.....Hedges......Kapplehof.......DMB

...................Bradley.....Schwiney

Villa.............Giovinco.................Almiron

.................................Jozy

That would be fun to see for 30 or so minutes before the subs flood the pitch.  Nicolic probably deserves to start but it makes some sense to keep Gio and Jozy near each other.

 
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for the heck of it took another look using the presale link.  plenty of seats left.  so if you are going public sale route you should have a good shot.  doesnt help that it is the Friday of Labor Day weekend.  I have a funny feeling there wont be the kind of home advantage we get in places like Columbus.

-QG

 
QuizGuy66 said:
for the heck of it took another look using the presale link.  plenty of seats left.  so if you are going public sale route you should have a good shot.  doesnt help that it is the Friday of Labor Day weekend.  I have a funny feeling there wont be the kind of home advantage we get in places like Columbus.

-QG
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Costa Rica recently played Honduras at RBA in the Gold Cup and while the Honduran fan were in the majority, there were plenty of CR fans in the building.  If there are plenty of seats left at the start of the public sale of tickets, then we are probably going to see a 70-30ish type crowd for the mix of US to CR fans.

 
Does anyone know if Alvaro Morata is any good?  I heard he can't even beat out Benzema for a spot in the first XI and that he dyed his hair red?

tia will answer yours

 
CletiusMaximus said:
Does anyone know if Alvaro Morata is any good?  I heard he can't even beat out Benzema for a spot in the first XI and that he dyed his hair red?

tia will answer yours
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Morata's per 90 stats were incredible last year, but that's 1300 minutes of work.  We've never really seen him with starters minutes for a senior team.  We'll see.

 
Sammy3469 said:
Here's what NCFC is going to propose.  I have no idea how this fits in that area, but maybe I have my geography off.

http://www.northcarolinafc.com/mls
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Watching this long drawn out process with so many cities, I am fascinated by the fact that no one is talking about Phoenix and they look to be the only group that already has land and is 100% committed to not using any public funding to build the stadium.

I have a feeling that a ton of these bids are going to go up in smoke once the public funding is not found to be available and Phoenix may just slide in.

=================

A bid I have been following closely is the Detroit bid.  The idea looks fantastic if they can figure out how to relocate the prison.  To be a part of a possible Detroit revival has to be tempting.  

One real draw back here is that the popular Detroit FC PDSL team has no affiliation with the MLS bid and even worse the fan base (as could be expected) seems to be very antagonistic towards the MLS bid.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
Does anyone know if Alvaro Morata is any good?  I heard he can't even beat out Benzema for a spot in the first XI and that he dyed his hair red?

tia will answer yours
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"Bends well at the hips, has his head on a swivel and brings a lunch pail attitude. Lacks elite twitch.

Player comparison: Patrick Kluivert

 
Sinn Fein said:
Steal of the Draft, imo
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I've done my best to avoid the rumor mongers this summer, but if what was reported is to be believed ... as of a month or so ago, CFC wanted Lukaku and Lukaku wanted CFC, while the same was said of Moratta and Man United.  What a tangled web. I've made my opinion on Lukaku known. Don't know Moratta much at all, but I believe he played for Conte at Juve one or two years, which I'll take as a positive.

 
Chelsea already announced the Morata deal LOL. It took them a month to unveil Bakayoko.

No coincidence this comes less than a day after Conte got his new contract. Sure seems like Morata was his first choice of the remaining strikers. He seems to be the least flashy of the supposed available top guns (Belotti/Aubameyang/Aguero) but also one of the most complete. Or so it seems.

Either way he's an upgrade over Costa IMO - both in terms of skill and attitude - and that makes this a really exciting signing. 

 
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CletiusMaximus said:
I've done my best to avoid the rumor mongers this summer, but if what was reported is to be believed ... as of a month or so ago, CFC wanted Lukaku and Lukaku wanted CFC, while the same was said of Moratta and Man United.  What a tangled web. I've made my opinion on Lukaku known. Don't know Moratta much at all, but I believe he played for Conte at Juve one or two years, which I'll take as a positive.
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I thought I read something today that Conte brought him to Juve, but left before Morata actually played.  But, I might have mis-read that.

It was odd - with Morata allegedly dying his hair red, and his wife starting to follow MUFC on social media - only for things to go sideways and Lukaku ending up in Manchester.

Now, of course, all the reports out of Chelsea are that Morata was the first choice all along. :shrug:

 
Native said:
Either way he's an upgrade over Costa IMO - both in terms of skill and attitude - and that makes this a really exciting signing. 
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I love Diego's attitude on the field, not sure what happened between him and the manager.  In any event, very much hope you're instinct is correct, as it usually is.  I'd take a Kluivert clone for sure.

 
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Chelsea already announced the Morata deal LOL. It took them a month to unveil Bakayoko.

No coincidence this comes less than a day after Conte got his new contract. Sure seems like Morata was his first choice of the remaining strikers. He seems to be the least flashy of the supposed available top guns (Belotti/Aubameyang/Aguero) but also one of the most complete. Or so it seems.

Either way he's an upgrade over Costa IMO - both in terms of skill and attitude - and that makes this a really exciting signing. 
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Chelsea are having a good summer, imo.  Getting Conte extended might have been one of their better moves.

Looks like they will miss out on Danilo.  Apparently after a couple of days watching Kyle Walker, Pep decides he needs to upgrade RB... :lol:

 
Didn't Chelsea try to match Man U?  I think it's clear they preferred Lukaku.  Everyone I heard in the media, however, preferred Morata.  It was weird, as they were saying that Lukaku had to prove he could succeed at this level, when he has a lot more top league goals.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Didn't Chelsea try to match Man U?  I think it's clear they preferred Lukaku.  Everyone I heard in the media, however, preferred Morata.  It was weird, as they were saying that Lukaku had to prove he could succeed at this level, when he has a lot more top league goals.
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I've no idea what to believe, but one broadly accepted rumor is that Chelsea matched the offer for the player, fee+wages, but would not match the agent fee Raiola would get from United. Its a strange double-agency thing where Raiola gets a higher fee if the player goes to United, because he negotiates the acquisition deal with Everton and then negotiates the wage package with United. He doesn't have the same relationship with Chelsea, so would have received far less.  One thing I noticed about both players' stats - they both seem to pile up goals in the blow-out games against smaller clubs, not so much when they're on the big stage.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Chelsea are having a good summer, imo.  Getting Conte extended might have been one of their better moves.
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Just a nitpik, but a potentially significant one with this club/owner - the club didn't actually extend Conte as was reported, just gave him a pay raise over the existing two years left on his contract.  The concern is that perhaps they moved more into his guaranteed salary, but reduced the buy out if he leaves. :unsure:

 
CletiusMaximus said:
I've no idea what to believe, but one broadly accepted rumor is that Chelsea matched the offer for the player, fee+wages, but would not match the agent fee Raiola would get from United. Its a strange double-agency thing where Raiola gets a higher fee if the player goes to United, because he negotiates the acquisition deal with Everton and then negotiates the wage package with United. He doesn't have the same relationship with Chelsea, so would have received far less.  One thing I noticed about both players' stats - they both seem to pile up goals in the blow-out games against smaller clubs, not so much when they're on the big stage.
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I think ultimately Morata will work harder off the ball than Costa did, or Lukaku will.  And, he does not seem to be a #### like Costa.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
I've no idea what to believe, but one broadly accepted rumor is that Chelsea matched the offer for the player, fee+wages, but would not match the agent fee Raiola would get from United. Its a strange double-agency thing where Raiola gets a higher fee if the player goes to United, because he negotiates the acquisition deal with Everton and then negotiates the wage package with United. He doesn't have the same relationship with Chelsea, so would have received far less.  One thing I noticed about both players' stats - they both seem to pile up goals in the blow-out games against smaller clubs, not so much when they're on the big stage.
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How can you not love this stuff!  It's like having a whole month of about 100 Kirk Cousins stories. 

 
CletiusMaximus said:
Just a nitpik, but a potentially significant one with this club/owner - the club didn't actually extend Conte as was reported, just gave him a pay raise over the existing two years left on his contract.  The concern is that perhaps they moved more into his guaranteed salary, but reduced the buy out if he leaves. :unsure:
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I am probably glad I did not know this tidbit this morning - pretty much the entire basis for me selecting Morata was based on Conte's new deal, and that he would not have signed without some assurance that he would get a new striker. :oldunsure:

Better to be lucky than good...

 
From Guillem Balauge just now:

Morata (fast, clever, v.good finisher) was Conte's choice. Club wanted Lukaku but Conte was worried by his lack of work off the ball

So Emenalo and the board wanted Lukaku but Conte wanted Morata? That may explain the conflicting rumors.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Seems like a lucky blow to me.  I don't understand a world where Ross Barkley goes for 50 million and demands 150K a week.  You can probably get Wilshere for a bag of chips. 
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There is no universe where Wilshere ends up at Spurs.

But Barkley was never going to Spurs for £50M, and Spurs were never paying £150k a week for a reserve midfielder.

I still think this gets done on deadline day - Barkley has nowhere else to go, and Koeman does not want him there.  It will end up being £25M plus add-ons, and ~£80k/week.

 
Barkley has one year left on his contract. If they don't sell him this window he walks. No way Everton get what they're asking.

 
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