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For those of you who subscribe to the Athletic, there's a good story exploring and ranking the youth academies of each MLS club.  For those of you who don't, Red Bulls had the #1 spot, while Minnesota was at the bottom.

 
thank god.

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[MARCA] La Liga match in the United States crumbles. The heads of the Spanish Government, the Spanish FA and FIFA met this morning in Madrid and agreed - for different reasons- in that today's intention is to NOT authorize the match, considered an outrage to the football system. 

 
The Kansas Comet said:
For those of you who subscribe to the Athletic, there's a good story exploring and ranking the youth academies of each MLS club.  For those of you who don't, Red Bulls had the #1 spot, while Minnesota was at the bottom.
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I don't subscribe, but follow the author (Will Parchman) on twitter. He had a couple interesting teaser tweets last week referencing Portland:

Will Parchman‏Verified account @WillParchman Sep 6

I’ve had my head in every MLS academy for many, many hours of late for reasons that will become obvious soon enough. For now, I would like to say Portland. WTF.

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Will Parchman‏Verified account @WillParchman Sep 6

Every bad academy makes complete sense. You’d guess most of them without knowing anything beyond their first team operation. But Portland... what... wh... how. How. Why.
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NewlyRetired said:
thank god.

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[MARCA] La Liga match in the United States crumbles. The heads of the Spanish Government, the Spanish FA and FIFA met this morning in Madrid and agreed - for different reasons- in that today's intention is to NOT authorize the match, considered an outrage to the football system. 
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"the" match? 

I thought they were proposing regular matches?

...just googled and found this-

The possibility that Girona's LaLiga Santander match with Barcelona will take place in Miami is now looking less likely following a meeting between Spanish prime minister Pedro Sanchez, FIFA president Gianni Infantino and Spanish federation boss Luis Rubiales.

Following talks between the trio in Madrid, the feeling was that it is not the right moment to have the game with the Spanish government unhappy for the publicity it would give Catalan independence with the two teams coming from the region.

Generally the feeling was that it was not the time nor the correct way to go about bringing about the match.

For the Spanish federation they are unhappy at the way it would go against the interest of fan and harm the competiton as a whole, while FIFA feel that business is being put ahead of football.
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NewlyRetired said:
thank god.

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[MARCA] La Liga match in the United States crumbles. The heads of the Spanish Government, the Spanish FA and FIFA met this morning in Madrid and agreed - for different reasons- in that today's intention is to NOT authorize the match, considered an outrage to the football system. 
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NFL, take note.

 
Christo said:
NFL, take note.
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Something like a Real Valladolid vs Eibar match would have gone forward already.  That is similar to the ####ty type of games the NFL has put in London.  

Instead, RFEF wanted to take Girona's biggest home game of the year away and put it in another country.  It is the constant bias they show against Catalan clubs that is both shameful and transparent. 

 
Kind of amazing that Rooney turned out to be the better signing for DC United

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[LeEquipe] Mario Balotelli missed the first 3 games for Nice and Italy due being out of shape, weighing in near 100 kilos (220 lbs)

 
NewlyRetired said:
Kind of amazing that Rooney turned out to be the better signing for DC United

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[LeEquipe] Mario Balotelli missed the first 3 games for Nice and Italy due being out of shape, weighing in near 100 kilos (220 lbs)
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Really? how can he be out of shape? Here's a bit more on it. He showed up 2 weeks late to pre season training as he felt he didn't need to be there with transfer discussions with Marseille going on (Seems typical though in soccer if discussing transfers and it was close the player doesn't train with their current club though), but he was also suspended the first 3 matches as well (I think for card accumulation as I never heard anything on the behavior front) so in typical Super Mario fashion he figured why start getting in shape when I'm already suspended 3 matches already? 

Super Mario shows up out of shape and 2 weeks late to Preseason training. The excuse's are noteworthy

 
DJackson10 said:
Really? how can he be out of shape? Here's a bit more on it. He showed up 2 weeks late to pre season training as he felt he didn't need to be there with transfer discussions with Marseille going on (Seems typical though in soccer if discussing transfers and it was close the player doesn't train with their current club though), but he was also suspended the first 3 matches as well (I think for card accumulation as I never heard anything on the behavior front) so in typical Super Mario fashion he figured why start getting in shape when I'm already suspended 3 matches already? 

Super Mario shows up out of shape and 2 weeks late to Preseason training. The excuse's are noteworthy
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similar to Sunderland's admirable statement releasing Papy Djilobodji on Wednesday: https://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2018/september/club-statement-papy-djilobodji

Sunderland AFC has given notice under its contract with Papy Djilobodji. Djilobodji, who was under contract to SAFC until June 2020, indicated in June 2018 that he wished to leave the club.

In order to facilitate that desire, the club entered into a written agreement with the player allowing him to spend the month of July on voluntary unpaid leave.

When that period came to an end, the player was expected either to leave for a new club – having reached a deal satisfactory to himself and SAFC - or to return in shape to play professional football. Instead, he returned to Sunderland over a month later, in the first week of September, ignoring written requests for his return. On his return, he was subjected to the same fitness test that his fellow professionals had undertaken on their return. He comprehensively failed that test.

As a result, Sunderland AFC can confirm that it has accepted Papy Djilobodji’s repudiatory breaches of contract and notice of the same has been provided to the player. 
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CletiusMaximus said:
similar to Sunderland's admirable statement releasing Papy Djilobodji on Wednesday: https://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2018/september/club-statement-papy-djilobodji
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They seem a little different' Sounds like Papy had a clause in his contract he signed for this. Mario just simple said screw it I'm out the first 3 so why bother. Then the transfer talks came up and if I remember correctly were ready to be completed and it fell through last minutes . By no means defending the guy either. Just saying I can see why it happened here. It's like having a job and your boss let you take a leave to negotiate a contract with someone else (because he helped you and maybe put in a request for you) there was a deadline by your team you are on now and you return and it wasn't completely because your what was expected new employer pulled out last minute. You are now stuck in the middle of an issue you didn't want to be in nor did you see happening. Sounds like both parties in Mario's case are to be blamed. 

Mario is a guy you need to have absolute set rules on and you just can't change those out of the blue. I have Aspergers and do to my autism my employer knows they have to tell me any rule changes or anything they want of me ahead of time before putting them in place. Why? because I'm the type who's gonna just go by the rules that were already set and I feel it's unfair just to randomly change the rules on the fly. Don't blame me for not following rules because you never told me or others they exist now but didn't before. Or better yet start enforcing rules right away you weren't before. For example we've had some incidents at work and 4 people let go. Non of them were do to the no cell phones on the floor rule however my work has a strict policy. My store wasn't enforcing that policy since we were a different company up until 3 yrs prior. Now all of a sudden that rule is being enforced pretty hard and no one was given fair notice. One person in my company not my store was fired immediately for cellphone use on the floor but were on break heading outside. 

Point is like it or not Mario is a guy you got to set guidelines with immediately. if you go and start changing stuff or something happens out of his control like the last minute transfer collapse don't go blaming him for at least being late showing up. The out of shape thing is a different issue but to blame him for being late there was other things preventing him from showing up. 

 
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Not looking forward to the liverpool gloating tomorrow.  At least it will be over early.

:kicksrock:

Spurs struggling for fitness right now.  Lloris drunk, Dele out, Kane stuck in first gear.  Lucas supporting a fascist in Brazil.  Son just got back in town after a month in Korea.  Its going to be a tough slog for the next few weeks.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Not looking forward to the liverpool gloating tomorrow.  At least it will be over early.

:kicksrock:

Spurs struggling for fitness right now.  Lloris drunk, Dele out, Kane stuck in first gear.  Lucas supporting a fascist in Brazil.  Son just got back in town after a month in Korea.  Its going to be a tough slog for the next few weeks.
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Your reverse jinxes can go to hell. 

Congrats on the victory.

 
Sinn Fein said:
I wish.  I'd gladly take a draw right now, and head to the CL matches mid-week.

Its the Year of the Klopp
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Trippier scores 2 on free kicks.  I'm just hoping the rest of the season doesn't come crashing down and Liverpool falls into the relegation zone after the loss tomorrow.

 
gianmarco said:
Trippier scores 2 on free kicks.  I'm just hoping the rest of the season doesn't come crashing down and Liverpool falls into the relegation zone after the loss tomorrow.
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Truthfully - this is what I posted on SpursCommunity:

"I can only see this going one way: Ramos is visiting Wembley pre-match, and dislocates Salah's shoulder when shaking his hand. 0-0 in stoppage time, Lamela trips over his own feet trying a Rabona, pen called, Alisson issued a red card, Eriksen steps up to take the pen, grabbing the ball from Kane. Eriksen scores, but Kane claims the goal anyway."

 
Sinn Fein said:
Not looking forward to the liverpool gloating tomorrow.  At least it will be over early.

:kicksrock:

Spurs struggling for fitness right now.  Lloris drunk, Dele out, Kane stuck in first gear.  Lucas supporting a fascist in Brazil.  Son just got back in town after a month in Korea.  Its going to be a tough slog for the next few weeks.
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I never feel good about a road game against a top team.  

 
If I told you that I'm watching a one armed and one legged girl, who is covered in her own ####, try to crawl her way out of a compound ran by muscled up body builders, would you believe me?

:mellow:

 
it is going to be a sad day when Zlatan retires

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John Molinaro‏Verified account @JohnMolinaro

Ibrahimovic and Bradley got in each other's face at the end of the game. Asked about it afterwards, Ibra said: "He thinks he’s a philosopher of football. I have more goals than he has [played] games, so he should follow my rules."

 
NewlyRetired said:
it is going to be a sad day when Zlatan retires

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John Molinaro‏Verified account @JohnMolinaro

Ibrahimovic and Bradley got in each other's face at the end of the game. Asked about it afterwards, Ibra said: "He thinks he’s a philosopher of football. I have more goals than he has [played] games, so he should follow my rules."
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He has a point.

 
NewlyRetired said:
it is going to be a sad day when Zlatan retires

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John Molinaro‏Verified account @JohnMolinaro

Ibrahimovic and Bradley got in each other's face at the end of the game. Asked about it afterwards, Ibra said: "He thinks he’s a philosopher of football. I have more goals than he has [played] games, so he should follow my rules."
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And this is why he should be the next USMNT coach.

 
B Maverick said:
ZLATAN FOR FIFA PRESIDENT
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I'm mostly serious about wanting THE Zlatan to coach the USMNT:

1. I think at this point in US soccer development, Zlatan perfectly describes the biggest gap between us and the rest of the world: pace. Not foot speed as much as speed of thought. I don't know if that can be taught, but if anyone can, my bet would be on the guy who at least knows what it is.

2. He is as 'American' in his background as anyone born in the U.S., which should make him instantly relatable; plus, his 'street cred' in the game commands respect from the players.

3. No hyperbole, he has succeeded everywhere he's gone, and great players moving into coaching jobs with little to no coaching experience has been done.

Where we are now--closing the gap with the rest of the world as far as infrastructure goes and more talent starting to come out of it--I think we have nowhere to go but up, so why not roll the dice a little?  Look where we got with a 'credible' coach in Klinsmann; Zlatan could do no worse, and I think due to where he comes from and how he is, he would have a better chance of success than JK did.

 
Charlie Steiner said:
I'm mostly serious about wanting THE Zlatan to coach the USMNT:

1. I think at this point in US soccer development, Zlatan perfectly describes the biggest gap between us and the rest of the world: pace. Not foot speed as much as speed of thought. I don't know if that can be taught, but if anyone can, my bet would be on the guy who at least knows what it is.

2. He is as 'American' in his background as anyone born in the U.S., which should make him instantly relatable; plus, his 'street cred' in the game commands respect from the players.

3. No hyperbole, he has succeeded everywhere he's gone, and great players moving into coaching jobs with little to no coaching experience has been done.

Where we are now--closing the gap with the rest of the world as far as infrastructure goes and more talent starting to come out of it--I think we have nowhere to go but up, so why not roll the dice a little?  Look where we got with a 'credible' coach in Klinsmann; Zlatan could do no worse, and I think due to where he comes from and how he is, he would have a better chance of success than JK did.
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Forget the soccer aspect of this.  I want it to happen just for the post-match interviews.

 
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