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El Floppo
Footballguy
Maybe by not going near the psf as a start?
How have you been?
Excited about all the usual Spurs moves?
1. Point taken.
2.
3. Actually cautiously optimistic about the season. Liverpool and City still seem to be a bit ahead of the league, and Chelsea look like they will score loads of goals - probably enough to cement a top-4 spot.
But, Spurs should be in the running for 4th - with Man United, Wolves, maybe Arsenal.
Potentially brutal start to the year -
Everton H Sunday.
Bulgaria Thursday.
Southampton A Sunday.
League cup Tuesday - almost has to be a youth squad.
Macedonia/ Romania Thursday.
Newcastle H Sunday
League Cup Tuesday (assuming we qualify)
Europa League Thursday (assuming we qualify)
Man Utd Sunday
But, I love all 3 signings so far, Hojbjerg, Doherty and Hart. Hojoberg in particular is a big piece that was missing last season - someone to control CM. That should help both defense and attack. Hart is one people will laugh at - but Spurs have been "wasting" a non-HG spot on a 3rd keeper for a few years now, so it frees up a non-HG spot.
They still have a few things to sort out - but they played well post-Covid break, and got their key signings in early enough to have an impact from the start. Next, I expect a back-up striker for Kane, they are still trying to off-load Ndombele, who will go down as one of the bigger transfer bust in the PL. Lots of talent, not so much on the work ethic.
Jose will have Spurs organized though - so that kind of counter-attack mentality should leave them in position to potentially secure points against all teams.
B Maverick
Footballguy
I figured "2" was a big part of it. Can't imagine what they would have on when they knew the season would be starting.
B Maverick
Footballguy
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B Maverick
Footballguy
Is this year 2 for Jose? Usually a good one for him. Europa glory before he blows it all up?1. Point taken.
2.
3. Actually cautiously optimistic about the season. Liverpool and City still seem to be a bit ahead of the league, and Chelsea look like they will score loads of goals - probably enough to cement a top-4 spot.
But, Spurs should be in the running for 4th - with Man United, Wolves, maybe Arsenal.
Potentially brutal start to the year -
Everton H Sunday.
Bulgaria Thursday.
Southampton A Sunday.
League cup Tuesday - almost has to be a youth squad.
Macedonia/ Romania Thursday.
Newcastle H Sunday
League Cup Tuesday (assuming we qualify)
Europa League Thursday (assuming we qualify)
Man Utd Sunday
But, I love all 3 signings so far, Hojbjerg, Doherty and Hart. Hojoberg in particular is a big piece that was missing last season - someone to control CM. That should help both defense and attack. Hart is one people will laugh at - but Spurs have been "wasting" a non-HG spot on a 3rd keeper for a few years now, so it frees up a non-HG spot.
They still have a few things to sort out - but they played well post-Covid break, and got their key signings in early enough to have an impact from the start. Next, I expect a back-up striker for Kane, they are still trying to off-load Ndombele, who will go down as one of the bigger transfer bust in the PL. Lots of talent, not so much on the work ethic.
Jose will have Spurs organized though - so that kind of counter-attack mentality should leave them in position to potentially secure points against all teams.
This is not just an emoticon post
Bluto Blutarsky
Footballguy
Why are they axing avatars too?
Jaysus
Good times!
But, I think the net spend is going to be close to 0...
Hojbjerg was Kyle Walker-Peters + £3M
Doherty is ~ £15M, but they are looking to sell Aurier for £20M
Hart was a Free.
If they sell Ndombele - it will pay for a back-up striker and CM.
To be fair, Spurs were hit pretty hard by the Covid restrictions. A non-negligible part of their budget come from both match-day revenue at the new stadium, but also non-soccer revenue streams from NFL, concerts, boxing, and Rugby, that were all cancelled this year.
More like 1.5 - but Europa might be the best path back to CL.
But, single leg ties just to get to the group stage, and Spurs have been drawn away in both potential match-ups. So, no easy path just to get in, let alone the knockout stage.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Seems like he's been out of favor for a while, right? 10m seems like a price that would be considered a bargain for a player like him...at least in the epl.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Now talk of Suarez to Juve.....
And its going to get Messi-er with La Liga siding with Barca on the fee. Courts, public opinion... I don't see this ending well for Barca, and maybe not Messi since noone is paying 700m for him this year.
Upon further looking, it is 1.5 million with 9 in variables. It's probably cheap just to get his massive salary off the books.
His lack of pace gets really exposed when he is next to a lot of other older, slower players. Still has a lot of class on the ball and he has done well at playing deeper since the World Cup. Hopefully, he can squeeze out a year or two as deep lying playmaker in Sevilla
Oh yeah. La Liga doesn't want Neymar, Ronaldo, and Messi to all leave in just a couple of years. Going to be very Messi politically if neither side backs down.
Still, need to get some more sales in if they are going to reinforce the defense. Plenty of new attacking options coming in/back, but no #9 outside of Braithewhite if Suarez leaves.
I'm supportive of Suarez leaving and hope he realizes that we just cannot play as many minutes. Really, the last part is true for all these old guys.
Interesting breaking side-story going on at Spurs right now:
Stuart James @stujames75 · 23m
Trevor Birch is leaving his position as Swansea chairman for a role at a Premier League club (understood to be Spurs). Huge blow to Swansea. Birch brought financial & football expertise, also appointed Cooper.
Birch has been with a number of teams as a CEO - notably Chelsea when the club were sold to Abramovich, and Leeds, during those days. He is a money/CPA type, and could be coming to Spurs to help them reorganize finances post-covid, or, Spurs are always rumored to be on the sales block, and Birch could help steward either the club during a sale, and let Levy manage the sale, or vice versa.
Either way, intriguing news to start the season.
Stuart James @stujames75 · 23m
Trevor Birch is leaving his position as Swansea chairman for a role at a Premier League club (understood to be Spurs). Huge blow to Swansea. Birch brought financial & football expertise, also appointed Cooper.
Birch has been with a number of teams as a CEO - notably Chelsea when the club were sold to Abramovich, and Leeds, during those days. He is a money/CPA type, and could be coming to Spurs to help them reorganize finances post-covid, or, Spurs are always rumored to be on the sales block, and Birch could help steward either the club during a sale, and let Levy manage the sale, or vice versa.
Either way, intriguing news to start the season.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lionel-messis-incredible-manchester-city-22613144
Again, not sure how credible this guy is, but it appears Man City can afford to pay this guy.
Several teams can afford to pay Messi...its the part about having to also pay Barcelona 700M, on top of what ever you pay Messi that is causing problems.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Is premium the one you need to pay for on the Peacock Channel or is that the free part?
DJackson10
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
Per one goal.US not sure how reliable they are
Belgium news outlets are reporting that Anderlecht have shown interest in signing USMNT center back Mark McKenzie (21). The article mentions both Celtic Glasgow and Union Berlin have also been monitoring McKenzie & quotes an asking fee of $2.4M from Philadelphia.
Belgium news outlets are reporting that Anderlecht have shown interest in signing USMNT center back Mark McKenzie (21). The article mentions both Celtic Glasgow and Union Berlin have also been monitoring McKenzie & quotes an asking fee of $2.4M from Philadelphia.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Jesus, things must have been bad at RSL. First the owner is ousted for being racist and now this
RSL executive Andy Carroll takes leave of absence after allegations of sexism, workplace misconduct surface
RSL executive Andy Carroll takes leave of absence after allegations of sexism, workplace misconduct surface
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
[César Luis Merlo] Total agreement between Inter Miami and Gonzalo Higuaín. They offer him a millionaire contract until December 2022. The Pipita had offers from England and Italy. The only thing left to define is his departure from Juventus
DJackson10
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
His agent said he was never playing in Italy ever again. Dam. Surprised DC didn't try and sign him as his brother is there.
B Maverick
Footballguy
United have announced Van de Beek. 1 signing done. Not sure why more can't go this smoothly. Lets get Sancho done and then one of either a CB or DM.
DJackson10
Footballguy
They love making things difficult but I saw this today. Sorry B Mav
Cellino to TeleLombardia: "A dozen days ago Manchester United made us an offer of at least ten million higher than that of Milan, but when the boy heard Milan, he didn't understand anything anymore. "Milan have a beautiful project, the figures reported are correct."
B Maverick
Footballguy
That's not for Sancho thats for Tonali. Looks like hes a DM in Serie B?
Didn't know United were even in for him.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Bresicia played in Serie A last year. Some view him as the next Pirlo in terms of MF role he can play for Italy but he's very good defensively and can move up in the attack when needed too. Yeah United made a push for him when they saw Inter was backing off who had an agreement with him in May. Everything looked done besides the transfer but Inter kept stalling. They then needed to offload a MF to fit Tonali in. Tonali got frustrated and Milan had interest and kept attention on the situation. United made several contacts during this period but when Tonali heard Milan potentially could make the deal real after months of uncertainty he told Cellino and his agent send me to my boyhood club. Cellino has been very class through the whole thing. Inter have decided to go for Arturo Vidal which has surprised many over going after Tonali. Vidal will probably be playing in China in the next 3 yrs where you can have Tonali roaming your MF for possible the next 12. Not sure where Inter are going for here.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Per the Azzurri National team Tonali left the National team to complete his Milan Move. Italy replaced him with Chelsea's MF Jorginho
DJackson10
Footballguy
According to the Bresica President Cellino Barcelona were also involved in negotiations on Tonali.Cellino didnt make mention how serious the Catalana side was though nor any numbers that were discussed.
DJackson10
Footballguy
In role he plays on the side. Not primo to be exact but a similar type of player as him. Comparisons given they play similar position both started out at Brescia etc. But Sandro seems more defensive
B Maverick
Footballguy
Thanks. Somehow I missed this, probably because everyone gets linked with United at some point. Glad they looked into him then, can't be upset when a player wants to go to his boyhood club though.
DJackson10
Footballguy
No problem and no you cannot be mad. I should also point out the way Cellino talks about Milan could be a brewing partnership and wouldn't be shocked to see Milan loaning players to them and vise versa or Milan buying their players. Milan had a similar partnership when Galliani had one with Genoa and teams were allowed half ownership of players still on each side.
Thanks. Somehow I missed this, probably because everyone gets linked with United at some point. Glad they looked into him then, can't be upset when a player wants to go to his boyhood club though.
And on Tonali he's been compared to Pirlo also because both play a similar position and both started at Brescia
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
This is for $18m which will give Atlanta a small profit.
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Felipe Cardenas
@FelipeCar
Multiple sources have confirmed to @TheAthleticSCCR that Atlanta United has agreed to terms that will send Pity Martínez to Al-Nassr FC in Saudi Arabia.
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Felipe Cardenas
@FelipeCar
Multiple sources have confirmed to @TheAthleticSCCR that Atlanta United has agreed to terms that will send Pity Martínez to Al-Nassr FC in Saudi Arabia.
El Floppo
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Feels like it. They probably know an offer like that won't come again in this environment so maybe cut bait and go find the next South American.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
This is interesting as I don't ever recall a play like this. Those who understand the intricacies of the rules here please chime in.
I recommend stopping the video at the 12 second mark. The player who scores is clearly in an offside position, except for the defender who kneeling on the end line. If the defenders knee is touching the side line, does that put him on the field of play and as such make the opposing player onside?
https://streamable.com/vqr0wr
I recommend stopping the video at the 12 second mark. The player who scores is clearly in an offside position, except for the defender who kneeling on the end line. If the defenders knee is touching the side line, does that put him on the field of play and as such make the opposing player onside?
https://streamable.com/vqr0wr
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B Maverick
Footballguy
This is my understanding from when I was younger (Club, HS, College days):
Since the video isnt playing, I'm guessing the defender was in the game and not off injured?
If that is the case, a defender can not step off the field to take himself out of the play. Technically you aren't allowed to enter or leave the field without permission, although an attacker off the end could be conisdered "passive" and not part of the play. So as far as a defender, he would still be part of the play and holding him onside. Touching the line doesn't have anything to do with it.
With that, the rules could have changed or been amended since then, so I defer to any up to date.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Messi announces he is staying at Barca. 
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I will see if I can find a mirror.
The defender attempted a slide tackle to block the cross. His attempt failed and he slid out of bounds. While the play continued, he got up to one knee to watch the eventual goal and one of his knees look to be touching the endline.
I think your interpretation is correct but I swear in the past I have seen offensive players stay beyond the touchline so that they would not be called offside. I know this is the opposite of that but it seems like the principle is the same.
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