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I choose to believe this is going to work because the alternative is too awful to contemplate

yeah... this isn' going to work.
Looks like we will get a good look at in Nations League. Sounds scary.
 
Very cool

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USL (United Soccer League) owners have voted on Tuesday to become the first professional soccer entity in the United States to adopt promotion and relegation. USL owners passed the vote with a supermajority. The expectation is that it will start in 2028 with the launch of the new USL Division 1 league
 
Very cool

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USL (United Soccer League) owners have voted on Tuesday to become the first professional soccer entity in the United States to adopt promotion and relegation. USL owners passed the vote with a supermajority. The expectation is that it will start in 2028 with the launch of the new USL Division 1 league
The initial reports I saw a couple weeks ago made it seem like USL is trying to compete with MLS as the "top league" and part of that is introducing pro/rel.
 
Very cool

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USL (United Soccer League) owners have voted on Tuesday to become the first professional soccer entity in the United States to adopt promotion and relegation. USL owners passed the vote with a supermajority. The expectation is that it will start in 2028 with the launch of the new USL Division 1 league
The initial reports I saw a couple weeks ago made it seem like USL is trying to compete with MLS as the "top league" and part of that is introducing pro/rel.
Yeah, they've made two separate announcements: The formation of a top tier league (I think starting in 2027) and now the introduction of pro-rel among the three tiers (presumably starting in or after 2027). I know the President of the new Portland, Maine team in USL League One, so...Go Hearts of Pine!
 
Been meaning to do this for awhile, but just saw a David Lynch vid that took a crack at it. Liverpool seem like they're finally going to have a big transfer summer. Out of necessity. 2025 squad prediction:

Salah, Gakpo, new CF, new winger, Jota or new forward
Szoboszlai, Mac Allister, Gravenberch, Jones, new 6/8 combo cover
Bradley, new RB
new LB
, Robertson
VvD, Konate, new CB, Quansah
Alisson, Mamardashvili, Jaros
  • That'd be the 20 game-day spots, with a 3rd GK taking up another of the 25 first-team roster slots. So there's still room for a couple developmental players like Bajcetic or someone else who's out on loan. Or an Endo-style spot minutes guy. Or a surprise vet available on a free or cheap. Or maybe they don't get a bid they like for Elliot. Etc.
  • Of the out-of-contract players, I'm assuming Salah and VvD stay. If either of them go, the team is up a creek IMO. Just too much change to digest and too much talent to replace.
  • Forwards out: Nunez is 100% gone IMO. Diaz seems a likely move too. Chiesa goes back to Italy. I'd personally keep Jota as a 5th forward, but he might go too.
  • Midfielders out: Endo and Elliot (the EPL Diego Luna) leave for minutes.
  • Defenders out: Trent has sounded, and played, like he was leaving for a long time but Bradley is ready to step into that role, so it's a backup they're loooking for. Tsimikas departs and Robertson becomes the backup on the left side. Gomez also leaves in search of a starters role.
  • Goalkeepers out: Kelleher. It's' not impossible someone comes in with a bid for Alisson that would see him leave too, but I agree with Lynch's take that he'll stick around for a year.
That'd be 6-7 new players coming in, and anywhere from 8-10 leaving.
 
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Mexican side Club Leon have been removed from this summer’s Club World Cup after failing to meet FIFA’s criteria on multi-club ownership.

Leon are majority owned by Grupo Pachuca, which also controls fellow Liga MX side and Club World Cup participant Pachuca.

A FIFA statement on Friday confirmed that a FIFA Appeal Committee had determined that the Mexican sides have “failed to meet the criteria on multi-club ownership defined under” the regulations for the Club World Cup.

Those regulations state that “no individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in the competition”.

FIFA says a replacement side will be announced “in due course”.
 
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Mexican side Club Leon have been removed from this summer’s Club World Cup after failing to meet FIFA’s criteria on multi-club ownership.

Leon are majority owned by Grupo Pachuca, which also controls fellow Liga MX side and Club World Cup participant Pachuca.

A FIFA statement on Friday confirmed that a FIFA Appeal Committee had determined that the Mexican sides have “failed to meet the criteria on multi-club ownership defined under” the regulations for the Club World Cup.

Those regulations state that “no individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in the competition”.

FIFA says a replacement side will be announced “in due course”.
RB and City group teams all ok I assume. Because they're not from Mexico. (I have no idea if eithr of those groups have multiple teams in play.. but seems likely they might at some point).
 
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Mexican side Club Leon have been removed from this summer’s Club World Cup after failing to meet FIFA’s criteria on multi-club ownership.

Leon are majority owned by Grupo Pachuca, which also controls fellow Liga MX side and Club World Cup participant Pachuca.

A FIFA statement on Friday confirmed that a FIFA Appeal Committee had determined that the Mexican sides have “failed to meet the criteria on multi-club ownership defined under” the regulations for the Club World Cup.

Those regulations state that “no individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in the competition”.

FIFA says a replacement side will be announced “in due course”.
RB and City group teams all ok I assume. Because they're not from Mexico. (I have no idea if eithr of those groups have multiple teams in play.. but seems likely they might at some point).
I think there are only one team of each of those groups in this event.

Man City and RB Salzburg.

FIFA is not setting rules about multiple team ownerships at club level, only for this specific tournament
 
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Mexican side Club Leon have been removed from this summer’s Club World Cup after failing to meet FIFA’s criteria on multi-club ownership.

Leon are majority owned by Grupo Pachuca, which also controls fellow Liga MX side and Club World Cup participant Pachuca.

A FIFA statement on Friday confirmed that a FIFA Appeal Committee had determined that the Mexican sides have “failed to meet the criteria on multi-club ownership defined under” the regulations for the Club World Cup.

Those regulations state that “no individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in the competition”.

FIFA says a replacement side will be announced “in due course”.
RB and City group teams all ok I assume. Because they're not from Mexico. (I have no idea if eithr of those groups have multiple teams in play.. but seems likely they might at some point).
I think there are only one team of each of those groups in this event.

Man City and RB Salzburg.

FIFA is not setting rules about multiple team ownerships at club level, only for this specific tournament
I understood that. just wondering how much FIFA will bend when it's teams from a major player and continent.
 
For more or less the first time ever, I feel like I'm actually in the final straight of completing the 92 club, which for those not aware is basically the grand tour of English football grounds. I'm sat on single digits left to clear - obviously at this stage they're all ballache trips, but I've got back to back to back weekends getting three of them sorted, which is going to involve a hotel stop in Sheffield after our game on Friday then heading to another country in the morning, a pre-6am start the week after, then a weekender in Devon for the last of them
 
For more or less the first time ever, I feel like I'm actually in the final straight of completing the 92 club, which for those not aware is basically the grand tour of English football grounds. I'm sat on single digits left to clear - obviously at this stage they're all ballache trips, but I've got back to back to back weekends getting three of them sorted, which is going to involve a hotel stop in Sheffield after our game on Friday then heading to another country in the morning, a pre-6am start the week after, then a weekender in Devon for the last of them
Way cool. When you're done, you should rank them all.
 
For more or less the first time ever, I feel like I'm actually in the final straight of completing the 92 club, which for those not aware is basically the grand tour of English football grounds. I'm sat on single digits left to clear - obviously at this stage they're all ballache trips, but I've got back to back to back weekends getting three of them sorted, which is going to involve a hotel stop in Sheffield after our game on Friday then heading to another country in the morning, a pre-6am start the week after, then a weekender in Devon for the last of them
Way cool. When you're done, you should rank them all.
92 - Hillsborough
 
End of an era in KC - Vermes is out. This year was supposed to be a rebuilding year, but they have been too bad to ignore and something had to change. Interest in the club locally has never been lower (post rebrand) so they need to nail this hire and get things back on track or the club could really flounder over the next few years.
 
Wednesday appear to be having problems paying their players again

 
End of an era in KC - Vermes is out. This year was supposed to be a rebuilding year, but they have been too bad to ignore and something had to change. Interest in the club locally has never been lower (post rebrand) so they need to nail this hire and get things back on track or the club could really flounder over the next few years.
I mentioned this in the US thread but it bears repeating. 16 straight years as a coach of the same team in pro soccer is very very rare.

As you said, it is time for a change.
 
One of the great club names in US Soccer pulled off a cupset this week.

The ultra tiny Hearts of Pine, from Portland Maine, down a man, had a 33 year old sub score the tying goal in the 116th minute and then they won on PK's

And sadly, the Stache got a 69th min red in their losing effort yesterday... 1-2. Benny with a PK goal.

I was really hoping they'd make a run
 
No shocker here. FIFA must be very nervous about the presales for the Club World Cup

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FIFA, soccer’s global governing body, on Thursday delivered fans a “first-of-its-kind offer” to the 2025 Club World Cup, which will debut in the United States this summer, with ticket packs that include “guaranteed” access to the 2026 men’s World Cup — the grander international tournament that will also be held in the U.S. a year later.
 
The Sports Business Journal is reporting that as early as today, MLS owners will take a formal vote as to whether they will shift the schedule to fall-spring.

I did not realize this had gone far enough for a vote….

Not sure if this is the right move for the league. Seems maybe tough for northern teams.

But as an Austin FC ticket holder - would love it.
 
The Sports Business Journal is reporting that as early as today, MLS owners will take a formal vote as to whether they will shift the schedule to fall-spring.

I did not realize this had gone far enough for a vote….

Not sure if this is the right move for the league. Seems maybe tough for northern teams.

But as an Austin FC ticket holder - would love it.
looks like it got discussed but not far enough along for a vote yet. I too think this has a bigger chance to fail than succeed. I hope they think this through

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League commissioner Don Garber called the changes that are on the table “one of the biggest decisions the league will have made in its history.” The owners discussed the changes during a meeting on Thursday, with each of the 30 teams getting an opportunity to voice its position.

While there was some speculation that there could be a decision to come out of this meeting, no vote took place.

“We clearly have work to do to figure out whether or not we can move over the international calendar, and we’re not there yet,” Garber said a few minutes after the meeting adjourned. “No decision has been made, and frankly, sitting here today, I’m not sure whether or not we have all the support we need to be able to achieve that. Though there’s momentum to try to get that done, there’s a lot of things that need to happen. We’ve got to figure out the commercial impact. We’ve got to get closer to researching our players to get a sense as to what their point of view is. We’ve got facility issues to look at. So my view is, if we can get this done, we’ll fully be able to capitalize on the momentum of the World Cup, and I’m not remotely concerned about it.”
 
The Sports Business Journal is reporting that as early as today, MLS owners will take a formal vote as to whether they will shift the schedule to fall-spring.

I did not realize this had gone far enough for a vote….

Not sure if this is the right move for the league. Seems maybe tough for northern teams.

But as an Austin FC ticket holder - would love it.
At least y'all have a canopy at that awesome Austin stadium.

I can see it both ways, but this is the second year in a row that I have conflicts in the fall between my Gamecocks season tickets and Charlotte FC. Now, a large part of this is the silly Apple TV scheduling that forces too many of the games to air in the same timeslot.What really worries me is these conflicts during the MLS playoffs.

I think I'd rather have the summers open.
 
Did we cover the Mbappe red card already? No idea how many games he gets, but no matter what the number is I'll be happy to argue it's too light. What a horrible tackle. If his studs don't slide out that leg snaps.
3 games as with all reds. Unless there's some game context (retaliation or intent to injure) that adds to it?
He should be gone for 3+, likely 5 IMO. It was a terrible, terrible tackle that looks like he was trying to injure.
 
Did we cover the Mbappe red card already? No idea how many games he gets, but no matter what the number is I'll be happy to argue it's too light. What a horrible tackle. If his studs don't slide out that leg snaps.
3 games as with all reds. Unless there's some game context (retaliation or intent to injure) that adds to it?
Way too late with the jump and stomp and that high up on the planted leg... "Intent to injury" is the only possible outcome in that tackle.

Dictionary definition of a leg breaking red card, throw the book at the guy afterwards.

Holy hell... As bad as I've seen. No hyperbole.
 
Did we cover the Mbappe red card already? No idea how many games he gets, but no matter what the number is I'll be happy to argue it's too light. What a horrible tackle. If his studs don't slide out that leg snaps.
3 games as with all reds. Unless there's some game context (retaliation or intent to injure) that adds to it?
Way too late with the jump and stomp and that high up on the planted leg... "Intent to injury" is the only possible outcome in that tackle.

Dictionary definition of a leg breaking red card, throw the book at the guy afterwards.

Holy hell... As bad as I've seen. No hyperbole.
Saw a report this morning that it may only be 1-3 games since the ref noted it as "an attempt to play the ball" thus negating any worse charge. Not sure how true or legit the report is though.
 
Kind of crazy, but 4 of the teams in the quarterfinals of CL are still going for a treble. And all 4 play against another team, so all 4 could make the semifinals.
Read a comment that Szczesny can still win more titles with Barcelona in 25 than his entire time at Arsenal (already got the Supercopa)
 

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