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***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (3 Viewers)

That was a great episode.
And the entire dessert scene was just not that believable with Tuco knowing what he's really like.
I don't disagree as I had some similar thoughts as you regarding this episode, but this is earlier before Tuco's brain got fried on meth so it's not crazy that he would be a bit more reasonable still. Also, it goes along with what we know of Saul that he always seems to find a way to talk his way out of any situation he's in.
good posting

they specifically didn't mention what type of drugs they deal yet. Could be small time weed dealers for all we know at this point.

 
That was a great episode.
And the entire dessert scene was just not that believable with Tuco knowing what he's really like.
I don't disagree as I had some similar thoughts as you regarding this episode, but this is earlier before Tuco's brain got fried on meth so it's not crazy that he would be a bit more reasonable still. Also, it goes along with what we know of Saul that he always seems to find a way to talk his way out of any situation he's in.
good posting

they specifically didn't mention what type of drugs they deal yet. Could be small time weed dealers for all we know at this point.
Given Tuco's uncle's connection to the coke dealer that orders the killing of young Gus Fring's homosexual lover and partner, what was his name Don Eladio, I would presume they are dealing coke.

 
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For all the people that haven't watched BB -

a) Watch BB now. Not to understand Better Call Saul, just because you're missing out.

b) The really important connections so far are:

Saul's role in BB ends when, with the help of a pro, he has his identity changed and becomes the manager of a Cinnabon in Nebraska.

Mike, the parking lot guy here, is a PI for Saul as well as working for drug kingpen Gus Fring in BB

Tuco is a meth dealer that Walter White and Jesse work with briefly in BB before the relationship ends poorly.

c) There are people actively ###ing up this thread in part by posting BB references that actually don't exist.

d) You should be watching BB from the start right now. Take off work if you have to.

 
Tried making a rusty nail last night. Do not recommend. :X
I love Rusty Nails, but the recipes can really vary. The original recipe is way, way too sweet, IMO. I also much prefer Famous Grouse to Dewar's for a Nail (and I like Black Grouse even more, but it's pretty nontraditional to use something so peaty/smoky). Dewar's strength as a relatively nondescript, almost quaffable blended Scotch means it gets lost in a Nail, IMO.

 
I find the strained jokes a lot less annoying than the other posts, but that's just me. We're two episodes in. There's not much analysis to be had. We're still very much in the stage where the writers are laying the groundwork for the narrative. I like Bob Odenkirk, so I'm finding it entertaining enough, but I don't have any strong opinions yet.

I didn't at this stage of Breaking Bad either. That was a bit of a different experience because I binge-watched BB, but it was at least five episodes for me before that show went from "this is interesting enough to keep following" to "these characters have me hooked."

 
What was up with "Dreamy Woman" (aka Jamie Luner)? She was billed in the credits but the scene could have used anyone. Where's that going?
I figured she was "working" Jimmy. She has an angle and will be back. Jimmy will find out she's a whore. He will use her to entrap the Fund pilfering County Commissioner to get him to sign the letter of engagement to defend him at the same time playing the other side and assisting Tuco's associate in ripping the guy off. These writers like to explore the world of using prostitutes and lowlifes.
Me too!

I also think that guy in the toll booth is up to something with those stickers.

 
Tried making a rusty nail last night. Do not recommend. :X
I love Rusty Nails, but the recipes can really vary. The original recipe is way, way too sweet, IMO. I also much prefer Famous Grouse to Dewar's for a Nail (and I like Black Grouse even more, but it's pretty nontraditional to use something so peaty/smoky). Dewar's strength as a relatively nondescript, almost quaffable blended Scotch means it gets lost in a Nail, IMO.
The lemon juice was awful.

Rusty Nail recipes, whatcha got?

 
I find the strained jokes a lot less annoying than the other posts, but that's just me. We're two episodes in. There's not much analysis to be had. We're still very much in the stage where the writers are laying the groundwork for the narrative. I like Bob Odenkirk, so I'm finding it entertaining enough, but I don't have any strong opinions yet.

I didn't at this stage of Breaking Bad either. That was a bit of a different experience because I binge-watched BB, but it was at least five episodes for me before that show went from "this is interesting enough to keep following" to "these characters have me hooked."
I, too, binged watched BB. Last night, I watched episodes 1 and 2 of Saul. I enjoyed them, but I thought several times, "I wish I was binge watching this."

It's been a long time since I kept up with a show from one week to the next. I like the idea of being in on this early, but I don't like thinking that I'm years away from finding out where this is all going.

 
Tried making a rusty nail last night. Do not recommend. :X
I love Rusty Nails, but the recipes can really vary. The original recipe is way, way too sweet, IMO. I also much prefer Famous Grouse to Dewar's for a Nail (and I like Black Grouse even more, but it's pretty nontraditional to use something so peaty/smoky). Dewar's strength as a relatively nondescript, almost quaffable blended Scotch means it gets lost in a Nail, IMO.
The lemon juice was awful.

Rusty Nail recipes, whatcha got?
I don't put lemon juice in mine, but I've used orange bitters and twisted a lemon peel before. None of that stuff is in the traditional recipe. Just blended scotch and Drambuie. The original recipe was something between half and half blended scotch and Drambuie and 2 parts blended scotch to 1 part Drambuie. But cocktails were cloyingly sweet back then.

The modern recipes I've seen are more like 4 parts blended scotch to one part Drambuie. I'm probably close to 3 to 1.

So my recommendation is to toy with the basic recipe until you find the ratio that is appropriately sweet for your taste. Maybe start with 1 oz of scotch and 1/2 oz of Drambuie. Too sweet? Add scotch in 1/2 oz increments until you find what you like. After that, you can try a splash of orange bitters or a lemon twist if you're feeling fancy.

 
What was up with "Dreamy Woman" (aka Jamie Luner)? She was billed in the credits but the scene could have used anyone. Where's that going?
I figured she was "working" Jimmy. She has an angle and will be back. Jimmy will find out she's a whore. He will use her to entrap the Fund pilfering County Commissioner to get him to sign the letter of engagement to defend him at the same time playing the other side and assisting Tuco's associate in ripping the guy off. These writers like to explore the world of using prostitutes and lowlifes.
I read this post in Gordon Gekko's voice.

 
I gotta admit, my lone skepticism after the first show is that I thought the show was going to mail it in on all realism of its courtroom scenes (i.e. Law and Order: SVU where all trial scenes are a complete bastardization of how actual trials go and how the rules of evidence are applied). Without getting into the nuts and bolts of it, basically Saul's closing in the necro case was clearly objectionable (a defense attorney absolutely cannot argue potential consequences or openly seek nullification). It was also completely stupid strategy because there's no way any attorney would completely ignore the fact that the boys had sex with a corpse (although the prosecutor's response of merely playing the video was awesome). So, I was a little worried that the show would totally screw up actual criminal courtroom reality.

However, that montage was ####### awesome and totally killed any worry I had. Any solo practitioner banking on a public defense contract to make ends meet can relate to every scene in that montage. From the crappy courthouse bought coffee to the walking in the halls plea negotiations to the "yeah you're going to say none of that and sentencing and just apologize", it was just great.

 
That was a great episode.
And the entire dessert scene was just not that believable with Tuco knowing what he's really like.
I don't disagree as I had some similar thoughts as you regarding this episode, but this is earlier before Tuco's brain got fried on meth so it's not crazy that he would be a bit more reasonable still. Also, it goes along with what we know of Saul that he always seems to find a way to talk his way out of any situation he's in.
good posting

they specifically didn't mention what type of drugs they deal yet. Could be small time weed dealers for all we know at this point.
Given Tuco's uncle's connection to the coke dealer that orders the killing of young Gus Fring's homosexual lover and partner, what was his name Don Eladio, I would presume they are dealing coke.
Not completely ruling it out...but how many coke dealers live with their grandmother.

(i.e. not really sure how much it matters at this point, but just making a point :shrug: )

 
Not completely ruling it out...but how many coke dealers live with their grandmother.

(i.e. not really sure how much it matters at this point, but just making a point :shrug: )
how do you know that he lives there? drug dealers might visit their grandmother on occasion. might even cook them a meal.

 
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Not completely ruling it out...but how many coke dealers live with their grandmother.

(i.e. not really sure how much it matters at this point, but just making a point :shrug: )
how do you know that he lives there? drug dealers might visit their grandmother on occasion. might even cook them a meal.
Yeah that was my impression. I think at one point, when he calls his boys, he says something like "I'm at my abuelitas...". That to me suggests that he doesn't actually live there but visits often since he didn't have to provide an address.

 
The guy that interrupted tuco, same one that he kills after a meeting with Walt in the junkyard?
Yes. The smaller henchman is No-Doze. Tuco kills him in BB in the junkyard for interrupting/disrespect. Later on the bigger henchman, Gonzo, dies when he goes to move No-Doze's body and is crushed by a scrapped car(s).

 
I gotta admit, my lone skepticism after the first show is that I thought the show was going to mail it in on all realism of its courtroom scenes (i.e. Law and Order: SVU where all trial scenes are a complete bastardization of how actual trials go and how the rules of evidence are applied). Without getting into the nuts and bolts of it, basically Saul's closing in the necro case was clearly objectionable (a defense attorney absolutely cannot argue potential consequences or openly seek nullification). It was also completely stupid strategy because there's no way any attorney would completely ignore the fact that the boys had sex with a corpse (although the prosecutor's response of merely playing the video was awesome). So, I was a little worried that the show would totally screw up actual criminal courtroom reality.

However, that montage was ####### awesome and totally killed any worry I had. Any solo practitioner banking on a public defense contract to make ends meet can relate to every scene in that montage. From the crappy courthouse bought coffee to the walking in the halls plea negotiations to the "yeah you're going to say none of that and sentencing and just apologize", it was just great.
Phew. That was my biggest concern with the show.

 
The guy that interrupted tuco, same one that he kills after a meeting with Walt in the junkyard?
Yes. The smaller henchman is No-Doze. Tuco kills him in BB in the junkyard for interrupting/disrespect. Later on the bigger henchman, Gonzo, dies when he goes to move No-Doze's body and is crushed by a scrapped car(s).
Yes, it's more understandable now why Tuco killed him in BB. That wasn't the first time he spoke out of turn.

 
I gotta admit, my lone skepticism after the first show is that I thought the show was going to mail it in on all realism of its courtroom scenes (i.e. Law and Order: SVU where all trial scenes are a complete bastardization of how actual trials go and how the rules of evidence are applied). Without getting into the nuts and bolts of it, basically Saul's closing in the necro case was clearly objectionable (a defense attorney absolutely cannot argue potential consequences or openly seek nullification). It was also completely stupid strategy because there's no way any attorney would completely ignore the fact that the boys had sex with a corpse (although the prosecutor's response of merely playing the video was awesome). So, I was a little worried that the show would totally screw up actual criminal courtroom reality.

However, that montage was ####### awesome and totally killed any worry I had. Any solo practitioner banking on a public defense contract to make ends meet can relate to every scene in that montage. From the crappy courthouse bought coffee to the walking in the halls plea negotiations to the "yeah you're going to say none of that and sentencing and just apologize", it was just great.
Isn't there a thread for your people?

 
The guy that interrupted tuco, same one that he kills after a meeting with Walt in the junkyard?
Yes. The smaller henchman is No-Doze. Tuco kills him in BB in the junkyard for interrupting/disrespect. Later on the bigger henchman, Gonzo, dies when he goes to move No-Doze's body and is crushed by a scrapped car(s).
Yes, it's more understandable now why Tuco killed him in BB. That wasn't the first time he spoke out of turn.
Right. Especially when you factor in that by the time WW meets up with Tuco he's been frying his brain for several years.

 
And put me in the camp that thinks that Tuco does not live with his grandmother. But if he did it wouldn't be out of character. We know from BB that, as batcrap as he is, he's got a strong sense of family.

 
What was up with "Dreamy Woman" (aka Jamie Luner)? She was billed in the credits but the scene could have used anyone. Where's that going?
I figured she was "working" Jimmy. She has an angle and will be back. Jimmy will find out she's a whore. He will use her to entrap the Fund pilfering County Commissioner to get him to sign the letter of engagement to defend him at the same time playing the other side and assisting Tuco's associate in ripping the guy off. These writers like to explore the world of using prostitutes and lowlifes.
Me too!

I also think that guy in the toll booth is up to something with those stickers.
S&H Greenstamps?

 
That was a great episode.
And the entire dessert scene was just not that believable with Tuco knowing what he's really like.
I don't disagree as I had some similar thoughts as you regarding this episode, but this is earlier before Tuco's brain got fried on meth so it's not crazy that he would be a bit more reasonable still. Also, it goes along with what we know of Saul that he always seems to find a way to talk his way out of any situation he's in.
good posting

they specifically didn't mention what type of drugs they deal yet. Could be small time weed dealers for all we know at this point.
pretty sure its meth

 
I gotta admit, my lone skepticism after the first show is that I thought the show was going to mail it in on all realism of its courtroom scenes (i.e. Law and Order: SVU where all trial scenes are a complete bastardization of how actual trials go and how the rules of evidence are applied). Without getting into the nuts and bolts of it, basically Saul's closing in the necro case was clearly objectionable (a defense attorney absolutely cannot argue potential consequences or openly seek nullification). It was also completely stupid strategy because there's no way any attorney would completely ignore the fact that the boys had sex with a corpse (although the prosecutor's response of merely playing the video was awesome). So, I was a little worried that the show would totally screw up actual criminal courtroom reality.

However, that montage was ####### awesome and totally killed any worry I had. Any solo practitioner banking on a public defense contract to make ends meet can relate to every scene in that montage. From the crappy courthouse bought coffee to the walking in the halls plea negotiations to the "yeah you're going to say none of that and sentencing and just apologize", it was just great.
Phew. That was my biggest concern with the show.
Hey, science people flipped out about the magnets. So, if he's going to portray a silver-tongued but downtrodden PD, I want it done right, dammit.

 
Not completely ruling it out...but how many coke dealers live with their grandmother.

(i.e. not really sure how much it matters at this point, but just making a point :shrug: )
how do you know that he lives there? drug dealers might visit their grandmother on occasion. might even cook them a meal.
I don't, but I am assuming he does
If he did live there he would have told his buddies to come to his house instead of qualifying it as his abuelitas.

 
Watched first 2 episodes last night, VERY good - looking forward to see how Jimmy McGill transitions into Saul Goodman.

Does anyone else actively search scenes/extras for any Breaking Bad references/easter eggs?
Lets see. In episode #1 he is approached about changing his firm's name. He states that it his birth name, but his brother argues he needs to make his own name. In episode #2 a guy who was with him out in the desert, a guy he may be slightly afraid of, or at least afraid of his association with Tuco who nearly made Jimmy crap his pants, finds him through a matchbook with Jimmy's information on it. It is already looking like Jimmy has reason to consider starting over, new name and new location. Hell, add in the fact that Jimmy McGill's most prominent, as far as we know, case involves him defending a trio of necrophiliacs and losing and he is well on his way to his updated and improved identity.
:goodposting: By the end of the series, perhaps we'll realize that it's Jimmy himself who...Better Call Saul!

 

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