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***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (2 Viewers)

Bob Magaw said:
Tune Down from Sticks by Chris Joss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxH1PxMZ2Uo

During the scene when Mike was outside the Kettleman's, the soundtrack music started to creep up on me, and half way into the scene, I paused it, thinking this sounds like the theme song for the greatest '70s Blaxploitation film never made (masterful period perfect instrumental with understated but BUMPIN bass, analog electric keyboard wash accents, subterranean but sweeping low brass and tasty minimalist funky blues rhythm guitar). A quick check of IMDB led to the song info. In somewhat of a coincidence, it mentions the musician put out an album that was part of a late '90s trend called Imaginary Soundtracks for movies that were never made.
I figured they just lifted that track from a random episode of the White Shadow.

 
That moment where Jimmy's sitting on the fireplace and tells the Kettlemans that the wife and logic have gone in different directions has been one of the highlights of the show so far. Perfect.

 
How has the show been holding up? Are the BB faithful pleased? Only watched the first three and need to catch up.

 
Oh yeah, and one other thing, "some rocks you don't turn over." WTF was that? Almost straight out of Spinal Tap - "some crimes are best left unsolved."
I think the black philly cheesesteak was referring to investigating another cop (Mike) within the force. It appears they were old buddies back in Philly, and they now have this new hard-### cop coming in, trying to blow up the investigation and pin it all on Mike.

Since the entire force was (still is?) dirty, I assumed this is what the black cop was talking about in the bolded above.

 
I have been wondering where the Kettleman's cash came from. I mean I get that he was/is the County Treasurer. I get that he could redirect or embezzle funds or money, but that would seem to be checks or credit. Is he then suppose to have not redirected those funds to off shore accounts, but to have written checks to himself, and then to have cashed those checks at local banks, converting them to nice even bundles of hundred dollar bills?

I appreciate that criminals can be mind-bogglingly stupid, but this seems beyond the pale. No matter, the cash is a nice plot device. Still, it is pushing it, and then to have Nacho also assume that they had it in cash, and that the cash would be in the home, well it seems a real stretch. Would Nacho really assume that someone who is a County Treasurer, with presumably some financial sophistication to obtain that position, really have embezzled funds in the house in cash or even negotiable instruments?

Regardless, I am still loving this show.
Swiping a bunch of cashed checks from under the bathroom sink would have been a much worse plot line.
:lol:

The chick did say, he wrote checks to himself :lmao:

 
I have been wondering where the Kettleman's cash came from. I mean I get that he was/is the County Treasurer. I get that he could redirect or embezzle funds or money, but that would seem to be checks or credit. Is he then suppose to have not redirected those funds to off shore accounts, but to have written checks to himself, and then to have cashed those checks at local banks, converting them to nice even bundles of hundred dollar bills?

I appreciate that criminals can be mind-bogglingly stupid, but this seems beyond the pale. No matter, the cash is a nice plot device. Still, it is pushing it, and then to have Nacho also assume that they had it in cash, and that the cash would be in the home, well it seems a real stretch. Would Nacho really assume that someone who is a County Treasurer, with presumably some financial sophistication to obtain that position, really have embezzled funds in the house in cash or even negotiable instruments?

Regardless, I am still loving this show.
There is the possibility that Nacho AND the Kettlemans are, in fact, that stupid.
MountainWest McMansion class juuuust ahead of Alabama Toothbrush Repairmen on the "gettin' it" scale.

 
My favorite lines this week:

"Wow, that is one bold legislature."

"It's me, your friendly neighborhood ice man."

"Keep things moving in the ol' GI tract."

"Sorry, woooooo, mysteries of the bladder!"

"Exonerate? That is a big word, particularly in your case."

"Oh, I love what you've done with the place. Last time I was here, it was, uh, well, not a contender for the cover of Good Housekeeping, that's for sure."

". . . the whole embezzlement kerfuffle."

"They could work out some kind of inter-prison visitation program, the occasional conjugal."

 
How has the show been holding up? Are the BB faithful pleased? Only watched the first three and need to catch up.
Definitely holding its own.

In fact, I'll repeat that it's not important or necessary to have seen Breaking Bad to watch and enjoy BCS.

 
Probably discussed already but near the end why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.

The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?

 
Probably discussed already but near the end why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
If he's returning it to the D.A. wouldn't they notice the missing $30k? That's what I was wondering (the 'probably already talked about this' part was shtick, couldn't check in to the thread all day).

 
Tune Down from Sticks by Chris Joss

If Curtis Mayfield's Blaxploitation soundtrack to Super Fly and Lalo Schifrin's cop funk Dirty Harry score had a baby, and than the incidental music to Baretta and Starsky and Hutch had a baby, and then THEIR babies had a baby...

Now we're talking, coming to a Better Call Saul episode soon (EWF, the first Blaxploitation score?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5p5u1x_wnA

 
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Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end

why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in

the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along

with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
Restitution would be incomplete. Plea deal probably required all the money go back.
 
Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.

The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
:goodposting:

 
Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end

why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in

the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along

with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
Restitution would be incomplete. Plea deal probably required all the money go back.
This is what I was wondering. I got that the money wouldn't have been traced to Jimmy, but thought their plan all along was to return all the money, "every penny". In that case, why does Jimmy answer "just doin' the right thing."

Not nitpicking or shticking, just figured I misunderstood something there.

 
Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end

why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in

the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along

with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
Restitution would be incomplete. Plea deal probably required all the money go back.
This is what I was wondering. I got that the money wouldn't have been traced to Jimmy, but thought their plan all along was to return all the money, "every penny". In that case, why does Jimmy answer "just doin' the right thing."

Not nitpicking or shticking, just figured I misunderstood something there.
For his conscience.. At this point hs is still trying to be the guy who doesn't "bend" laws.. That will change soon :popcorn:

 
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My issue with the Kettleman story line is that it was obvious to me that Betsy Kettleman wanted to go to trial because she knew they'd lose and Mr. Kettleman would go to prison for a long time. She'd get the money. That's how the story line was written and acted until they the very end when Betsy starts talking about finding another lawyer and continuing the flight. Without the money (which is what she really cares about), she wouldn't have reacted that way.

Maybe a minor point but I thought they could have done better.

 
That moment where Jimmy's sitting on the fireplace and tells the Kettlemans that the wife and logic have gone in different directions has been one of the highlights of the show so far. Perfect.
I thought that this episode was good in that it wasn't just filled with things of this nature. It wasn't one Saulism move to another. Thought it was rather refreshing.

 
Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end

why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in

the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along

with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
Restitution would be incomplete. Plea deal probably required all the money go back.
I find it hard to believe they didn't spend any of that money all this time.

 
By returning the money Jimmy also, potentially, avoids Kim learning of his earlier actions and being disappointed in him.

I was sort of pulling for Jimmy, Kim, and Chuck trying to set up a firm in the new office suite. Now naturally that would end up being an enterprise which would be doomed before it started, but it could have been fun to watch Hamlin melt down over the firm of McGill, McGill, and Strumpet.

 
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Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end

why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in

the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along

with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
Restitution would be incomplete. Plea deal probably required all the money go back.
I find it hard to believe they didn't spend any of that money all this time.
Also, seems Jimmy's pile would be short the cost of a Hamlin suit and a billboard fee. Sad that the rock upon which Jimmy was going to build his church turned out to be shifting sand, but that is Jimmy's fate it would seem.

 
TenTimes said:
Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
If he's returning it to the D.A. wouldn't they notice the missing $30k? That's what I was wondering (the 'probably already talked about this' part was shtick, couldn't check in to the thread all day).
Was scratching my head about this too. In addition to the potentially missing cash, how in the world are they going to return the money to the D.A.? Is Mike going to walk in and throw the duffelbag on the D.A.'s desk? Also, by giving the money to the D.A., the D.A. could prosecute as there was likely nothing concrete as far as agreement on the lighter sentence.

 
TenTimes said:
Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
If he's returning it to the D.A. wouldn't they notice the missing $30k? That's what I was wondering (the 'probably already talked about this' part was shtick, couldn't check in to the thread all day).
Was scratching my head about this too. In addition to the potentially missing cash, how in the world are they going to return the money to the D.A.? Is Mike going to walk in and throw the duffelbag on the D.A.'s desk? Also, by giving the money to the D.A., the D.A. could prosecute as there was likely nothing concrete as far as agreement on the lighter sentence.
I was thinking that he was going to drop it off in Kim's office so that she could turn it in as part of the plea bargain she arranged with the DA. The DA isn't going to back out of the deal he made and say "ah ha, now I got you", provided that he's ever interested in making a plea deal again. Plus the said that the COunty wanted to keep things as quiet as possible - just wanted the money back.

 
TenTimes said:
Gr00vus said:
TenTimes said:
Probably discussed already but near the end why was Mike confused when Saul put his money in to the duffel?
Is this a serious question or schtick? I can't tell in here anymore.The ex-crooked cop saw no reason for Jimmy to return the money when they just established (in the prior scene) that Ned and Maude would never implicate Jimmy for taking some of the money as that would also implicate Maude which would then result in Maude going to jail along with Ned. I.e. there was no consequence for Jimmy keeping the money, so why give it back?
If he's returning it to the D.A. wouldn't they notice the missing $30k? That's what I was wondering (the 'probably already talked about this' part was shtick, couldn't check in to the thread all day).
Was scratching my head about this too. In addition to the potentially missing cash, how in the world are they going to return the money to the D.A.? Is Mike going to walk in and throw the duffelbag on the D.A.'s desk? Also, by giving the money to the D.A., the D.A. could prosecute as there was likely nothing concrete as far as agreement on the lighter sentence.
I was thinking that he was going to drop it off in Kim's office so that she could turn it in as part of the plea bargain she arranged with the DA. The DA isn't going to back out of the deal he made and say "ah ha, now I got you", provided that he's ever interested in making a plea deal again. Plus the said that the COunty wanted to keep things as quiet as possible - just wanted the money back.
I was thinking that too, but if the money was left with Kim, she would have had to tell Ned and Maude that they were holding the money. I'm not a lawyer, but due to lawyer-client privilege, she would not be able to advise the D.A. when Ned and Maude indicated they wanted their money back.

Any one of the 5,000 lawyers in here care to advise on this.

 
Good episode. Not exactly sure why he was upset at the end? (kicking door) but I see it as this... The conflict between himself and his affinity to finding success on the other side of the law is simmering in him right now. The transformation of turning Jimmy into Saul is a foregone conclusion and we're starting to see how he's reacting to the change. It seems whenever he tries to do things by the book he gets the short end of the stick. When he bends the rules, he comes out on top. We all know which direction he's headed and Gilligan & Gould are doing a great job of showing us the path.

 
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My take on the anger at the end was that he would not be able to afford the nice new office now that he gave the money back :shrug:

 
Damn ok. I thought he was pissed because he just ####ed up the nice door to his new office. Also, they really made that office look small on Breaking Bad. Shame he ends up covering up his nice view with all those cheesy decorations.

 
Damn ok. I thought he was pissed because he just ####ed up the nice door to his new office. Also, they really made that office look small on Breaking Bad. Shame he ends up covering up his nice view with all those cheesy decorations.
cocaine is a helluva drug...

 

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