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119.9 at the moment...wish Felix would rip one for a TD

I find most people post when they ahve done well so even though we have a few posts north of 150(BTW, I love guys that act like they aren't sure and are likely in the top 1,000), there are still like 12,000 entries and a lot of people have injuries and could be sitting ducks this week. LT/McNabb/Welker...those were major holes in a lot of rosters.

Fasano tomorrow night is about I have left.

 
Just got my database cleaned up, and the present cutoff would be around 122, including night scores as of right around 11:00 EDT. Top score right now should be about 251!

I'll see if I can dump in projections for tomorrow's players to see where that would place the cut at...

Presently I'm right around top 550 with about 185 points...

 
ctriopelle said:
Just got my database cleaned up, and the present cutoff would be around 122, including night scores as of right around 11:00 EDT. Top score right now should be about 251!I'll see if I can dump in projections for tomorrow's players to see where that would place the cut at...Presently I'm right around top 550 with about 185 points...
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;) Cool, just went through and fixed up some of the off players... All the teams at TFS should be updating correctly right now (minus the negative yardage thing mentioned earlier)I'm sitting at 189+ see you guys next week
 
Based on my data, the current cut is right around 125. With Indy going tomorrow though, I suspect that it could jump quite a bit tomorrow. I'd guess the cut to finish in the low 130's

 
This was interesting to me: Despite going without huge-dollar guys (for the most part), all but one of the guys who counted for me in the first week are going to count for me again in week two. I thought I would have to rely on a different cast of guys each week, but at least with this small sample size, it hasn't happened:

Player Pos Price Team W1 W2

Aaron Rodgers QB $27 GB 15.90 23.35

Chad Pennington $12 MIA 13.80 0.00

Byron Leftwich QB $4 TB 20.10 30.80

Willie Parker RB $16 PIT 2.90 5.50

Darren Sproles RB $13 SD 15.10 25.00

Leon Washington $12 NYJ 10.40 8.60

Ahmad Bradshaw $8 NYG 8.60 5.50

Glen Coffee RB $2 SF 0.00 3.90

James Davis RB $2 CLE 2.40 0.00

Randy Moss WR $42 NE 26.10 6.40

Roddy White WR $33 ATL 9.20 17.30

Chris Henry WR $12 CIN 2.80 7.50

Derrick Mason WR $9 BAL 8.70 6.10

Percy Harvin WR $5 MIN 14.80 16.50

Hakeem Nicks WR $4 NYG 3.80 0.00

Josh Cribbs WR $1 CLE 3.60 7.60

Jason Witten TE $27 DAL 14.60 16.80

Chris Cooley TE $15 WAS 23.30 18.80

Olindo Mare K $1 SEA 4.00 5.00

Phil Dawson K $1 CLE 9.00 8.00

Dan Carpenter K $1 MIA 1.00 0.00

Cincinnati Bengals $1 CIN 3.00 8.00

Oakland Raiders DEF $1 OAK 5.00 6.00

New Orleans Saints $1 NO 7.00 16.00

Total Points: 149.60 165.40

Actual Cutoff: 120.90

Projected Cutoff: 122.00

 
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OK, going out on a limb, but I used Dodds' projections for tomorrow's players and the cut bumps to about 130 (up 5 points from now). If you are substantially above that, you are fine as far as I can tell. Turk should be giving his more scientific approach tomorrow morning, but this is the "earlybird special"

Good night, all!

 
I could just about :cry:

My actual entry would be at 168.55 + (Carpenter minus 9)

My theoretical entry (based on some cold calculations I made) outpaces that at 184.50

But I'm out already so :confused:

:bag:

-QG

 
One thought on the 20 vs 24 roster spots: Jason Avant scored 20.9 points this week. It is hard to argue that he wasn't worth $2 and a roster spot. Players like these should be on rosters in this format.

 
I guess the bright side is if I can survive a few more weeks I should be the only person left with Antonio Bryant, Matt Jones and Hakeem Nicks. But that doesn't sound very likely at this point.

 
Glad I threw Manningham on my squad, though sucks losing Nicks, and Royal and Avery are killing me.

Sitting at 135 - hope to make the cut... not bad I guess considering Brady has done nothing, Fitz has been largely held in check, and Royal/Avery have done nothing.

 
I'm at 166. I'm glad I picked up Mannigham! He was the last guy on my squad, he's been great so far! The 3 QB's is working pretty well also. I put leftwich in as my 3rd QB and he ended up scoring the most points of my QB's! I thought I'd only use him for bye weeks but Rodgers hasn't done much yet. :)

 
STEALS & BUST thus far for the most bang for your buck WR's:

L Fitzgerald ARI - 44

A Johnson HOU - 43

R Moss NE - 42

C Johnson DET - 40

S Smith CAR - 38

R Wayne IND - 36

D Bowe KC - 35

W Welker NE - 33

R White ATL - 33

G Jennings GB - 32

A Boldin ARI - 31

T Owens BUF - 30

T Houshmandzadeh SEA - 30

B Marshall DEN - 29

B Edwards CLE - 28

M Colston NO - 28

C Ochocinco CIN - 27

S Moss WAS - 27

A Gonzalez IND - 26

E Royal DEN - 26

J Cotchery NYJ - 25

S Holmes PIT - 25

H Ward PIT - 24

D Jackson PHI - 24

A Bryant TB - 23

T Holt JAX - 22

D Hixon NYG - 21

V Jackson SD - 21

L Evans BUF - 21

D Driver GB - 21

B Berrian MIN - 21

R Williams DAL - 21

D Avery STL - 21

L Moore NO - 20

L Coles CIN - 19

D Hester CHI - 19

S Breaston ARI - 17

T Ginn MIA - 16

J Morgan SF - 15K Walter HOU - 14

S Smith NYG - 12

C Henry CIN - 12

M Muhammad CAR - 12

E Bennett CHI - 11

C Chambers SD - 10

D Mason BAL - 9

M Walker JAX - 9

M Crabtree SF - 9

M Jenkins ATL - 8

J Gage TEN - 8

K Curtis PHI - 7

M Bradley KC - 7

M Clayton BAL - 7

M Austin DAL - 6

N Washington TEN - 6

J Nelson GB - 5

M Jones - 5

I Bruce SF - 5

N Burleson SEA - 5

J Galloway NE - 5

P Harvin MIN - 5

D Thomas WAS - 4

J Maclin PHI - 4

H Nicks NYG - 4

L Sweed PIT - 4

S Rice MIN - 4

C Stuckey NYJ - 4

B Robiskie CLE - 4

A Randle El WAS - 4

J Higgins OAK - 4

K Burton STL - 4

P Crayton DAL - 4

J Jones GB - 4

M Clayton TB - 4

D Branch SEA - 4

G Camarillo MIA - 4

B Johnson DET - 4

M Thomas JAX - 3

P Garcon IND - 3

C Schilens OAK - 3

J Reed BUF - 3

B Engram KC - 3

M Floyd SD - 3

D Henderson NO - 3

D Jarrett CAR - 3

R Meachem NO - 3

D Bess MIA - 3

D Williams BAL - 3

J Hill SF - 3

R Curry - 2

D Darling - 2

J Avant PHI - 2

D Butler SEA - 2

K Britt TEN - 2

P Burress - 2

B Stokley DEN - 2

D Clowney NYJ - 2

J Walker OAK - 2

A Collie IND - 2

B Smith NYJ - 2

J Urban ARI - 2

A Davis HOU - 2

G Lewis NE - 2

J Jones HOU - 2

L Hawkins TEN - 2

J Iglesias CHI - 2

D Northcutt DET - 2

D Heyward-Bey OAK - 2

B Lloyd DEN - 2

H Douglas ATL - 2

L Robinson STL - 2

R Davis CHI - 2

M Manningham NYG - 2

C Davis SD - 2

D Jackson - 1

S Johnson BUF - 1

S Hurd DAL - 1

R Parrish BUF - 1

J Cribbs CLE - 1

J Dillard JAX - 1

S Stroughter TB - 1

P Turner MIA - 1

 
Marvelous said:
One thought on the 20 vs 24 roster spots: Jason Avant scored 20.9 points this week. It is hard to argue that he wasn't worth $2 and a roster spot. Players like these should be on rosters in this format.
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Which says absolutely nothing about 20 v. 24. 20 man rosters have $2 guys, too. Even with a 24 man roster you can't have all of the $2 guys.
 
I survived this week mostly because of Rivers and Coleson, but my other receivers and TE are going to be my downfall.

WR - Randy Moss - 42 - Overpaid, disappointing

WR - Marques Colston - 28 - Worth it

WR - Chris Henry - 12 0 Disappointing

WR - Derrick Mason - 9 - OK for the price

WR - Hakeem Nicks - 4 - Disappointing, wish it was Manningham, duh, and i am a Michigan fan

WR - Robert Meachem - 3 - Not being used much

Can't see getting three or four

 
apalmer said:
Marvelous said:
One thought on the 20 vs 24 roster spots: Jason Avant scored 20.9 points this week. It is hard to argue that he wasn't worth $2 and a roster spot. Players like these should be on rosters in this format.
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Which says absolutely nothing about 20 v. 24. 20 man rosters have $2 guys, too. Even with a 24 man roster you can't have all of the $2 guys.
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You can't have all of the $40 guys either. What's your point?
 
Short Corner said:
apalmer said:
Marvelous said:
One thought on the 20 vs 24 roster spots: Jason Avant scored 20.9 points this week. It is hard to argue that he wasn't worth $2 and a roster spot. Players like these should be on rosters in this format.
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Which says absolutely nothing about 20 v. 24. 20 man rosters have $2 guys, too. Even with a 24 man roster you can't have all of the $2 guys.
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You can't have all of the $40 guys either. What's your point?
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I'll slow it down for you. The fact that a specific $2 player had a good week (or even several good weeks) says nothing about the 20 v. 24 man roster issue, any more than the fact that some other $2 player is a total waste does. There are about a million ways to put together a 24 man roster without Avant, just as there are about a million ways to put together a 20 man roster with him. And, there are going to be dozens of $2 players ho have a good week sometime during the season. Pointing at each of them and saying "See, a 24 man roster would have given you those points" is both wrong and nonsensical.
 
apalmer said:
Short Corner said:
apalmer said:
Marvelous said:
One thought on the 20 vs 24 roster spots: Jason Avant scored 20.9 points this week. It is hard to argue that he wasn't worth $2 and a roster spot. Players like these should be on rosters in this format.
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Which says absolutely nothing about 20 v. 24. 20 man rosters have $2 guys, too. Even with a 24 man roster you can't have all of the $2 guys.
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You can't have all of the $40 guys either. What's your point?
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I'll slow it down for you. The fact that a specific $2 player had a good week (or even several good weeks) says nothing about the 20 v. 24 man roster issue, any more than the fact that some other $2 player is a total waste does. There are about a million ways to put together a 24 man roster without Avant, just as there are about a million ways to put together a 20 man roster with him. And, there are going to be dozens of $2 players ho have a good week sometime during the season. Pointing at each of them and saying "See, a 24 man roster would have given you those points" is both wrong and nonsensical.
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It all comes down to, are there enough of those $2-4 players to fill out a good rooster. If ADP and Brees continue on their pace, they are worth every penny. You get a top performing stud week in and week out. The problem with the $2-4 player is for everyone that works out to be a very good player, there are 10 of them that are busts. Finding the dozen of cheap players who works out is like hitting the lottery. If you have 24 players on your team, what good are they if 6 or 7 aren't even on the field most of the time. It all comes down to a cost-benefit analysis and getting lucky on your picks. None of my low dollar picks are working out. I could have 50 of those bastards on my team and they would not be scoring me a damn thing. I am alive because the guys I paid real money for are producing (Phillips, Grant, Coleson).
 
jon_mx said:
apalmer said:
Short Corner said:
apalmer said:
Marvelous said:
One thought on the 20 vs 24 roster spots: Jason Avant scored 20.9 points this week. It is hard to argue that he wasn't worth $2 and a roster spot. Players like these should be on rosters in this format.
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Which says absolutely nothing about 20 v. 24. 20 man rosters have $2 guys, too. Even with a 24 man roster you can't have all of the $2 guys.
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You can't have all of the $40 guys either. What's your point?
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I'll slow it down for you. The fact that a specific $2 player had a good week (or even several good weeks) says nothing about the 20 v. 24 man roster issue, any more than the fact that some other $2 player is a total waste does. There are about a million ways to put together a 24 man roster without Avant, just as there are about a million ways to put together a 20 man roster with him. And, there are going to be dozens of $2 players ho have a good week sometime during the season. Pointing at each of them and saying "See, a 24 man roster would have given you those points" is both wrong and nonsensical.
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It all comes down to, are there enough of those $2-4 players to fill out a good rooster. If ADP and Brees continue on their pace, they are worth every penny. You get a top performing stud week in and week out. The problem with the $2-4 player is for everyone that works out to be a very good player, there are 10 of them that are busts. Finding the dozen of cheap players who works out is like hitting the lottery. If you have 24 players on your team, what good are they if 6 or 7 aren't even on the field most of the time. It all comes down to a cost-benefit analysis and getting lucky on your picks. None of my low dollar picks are working out. I could have 50 of those bastards on my team and they would not be scoring me a damn thing. I am alive because the guys I paid real money for are producing (Phillips, Grant, Coleson).
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Exactly. So far, spending $2 on Robinson was a great deal. The $2 I spent on James Davis, not so much.BTW, before anyone asks, it would be just as wrong of someone to say "See how many points Brees has scored?" to support a 20 man roster argument.
 
I have a brain cramp. How do you search for your team when you are on the simulation page...trying control F6 etc.? have been trying everything.

Thanks

 
Da Man said:
I have a brain cramp. How do you search for your team when you are on the simulation page...trying control F6 etc.? have been trying everything.Thanks
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just ctlF will initiate the find functionthen type in team #
 
apalmer said:
jon_mx said:
apalmer said:
Short Corner said:
[You can't have all of the $40 guys either. What's your point?
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I'll slow it down for you. The fact that a specific $2 player had a good week (or even several good weeks) says nothing about the 20 v. 24 man roster issue, any more than the fact that some other $2 player is a total waste does. There are about a million ways to put together a 24 man roster without Avant, just as there are about a million ways to put together a 20 man roster with him. And, there are going to be dozens of $2 players ho have a good week sometime during the season. Pointing at each of them and saying "See, a 24 man roster would have given you those points" is both wrong and nonsensical.
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It all comes down to, are there enough of those $2-4 players to fill out a good rooster. If ADP and Brees continue on their pace, they are worth every penny. You get a top performing stud week in and week out. The problem with the $2-4 player is for everyone that works out to be a very good player, there are 10 of them that are busts. Finding the dozen of cheap players who works out is like hitting the lottery. If you have 24 players on your team, what good are they if 6 or 7 aren't even on the field most of the time. It all comes down to a cost-benefit analysis and getting lucky on your picks. None of my low dollar picks are working out. I could have 50 of those bastards on my team and they would not be scoring me a damn thing. I am alive because the guys I paid real money for are producing (Phillips, Grant, Coleson).
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Exactly. So far, spending $2 on Robinson was a great deal. The $2 I spent on James Davis, not so much.BTW, before anyone asks, it would be just as wrong of someone to say "See how many points Brees has scored?" to support a 20 man roster argument.
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Obviously results depend on who you pick. But $1 and $2 players are not exclusive of studs like Brees and Peterson. If you are filling out your roster and you are lookng at a $12 player for the 20th spot or five $2 players on for spots 20-24, you get more shots to hit something with the five $2 players. You are more likely to have more cheap players if you fill all 24 slots on your roster.No one ever discussed filling the whole or most of the roster with cheap players.
 
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Apparently I'm a moron, but I can't find any data at all on week 2 for the contest. All I can see is my week 1 scores.

 
Marvelous said:
apalmer said:
jon_mx said:
apalmer said:
Short Corner said:
[You can't have all of the $40 guys either. What's your point?
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I'll slow it down for you. The fact that a specific $2 player had a good week (or even several good weeks) says nothing about the 20 v. 24 man roster issue, any more than the fact that some other $2 player is a total waste does. There are about a million ways to put together a 24 man roster without Avant, just as there are about a million ways to put together a 20 man roster with him. And, there are going to be dozens of $2 players ho have a good week sometime during the season. Pointing at each of them and saying "See, a 24 man roster would have given you those points" is both wrong and nonsensical.
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It all comes down to, are there enough of those $2-4 players to fill out a good rooster. If ADP and Brees continue on their pace, they are worth every penny. You get a top performing stud week in and week out. The problem with the $2-4 player is for everyone that works out to be a very good player, there are 10 of them that are busts. Finding the dozen of cheap players who works out is like hitting the lottery. If you have 24 players on your team, what good are they if 6 or 7 aren't even on the field most of the time. It all comes down to a cost-benefit analysis and getting lucky on your picks. None of my low dollar picks are working out. I could have 50 of those bastards on my team and they would not be scoring me a damn thing. I am alive because the guys I paid real money for are producing (Phillips, Grant, Coleson).
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Exactly. So far, spending $2 on Robinson was a great deal. The $2 I spent on James Davis, not so much.BTW, before anyone asks, it would be just as wrong of someone to say "See how many points Brees has scored?" to support a 20 man roster argument.
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Obviously results depend on who you pick. But $1 and $2 players are not exclusive of studs like Brees and Peterson. If you are filling out your roster and you are lookng at a $12 player for the 20th spot or five $2 players on for spots 20-24, you get more shots to hit something with the five $2 players. You are more likely to have more cheap players if you fill all 24 slots on your roster.No one ever discussed filling the whole or most of the roster with cheap players.
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That's the point of my first response in this discussion. The issue is what do you do with the money you save from not having that $12 player? Invest it in five $2 guys or upgrade your QB to Brees or your WR's to include Moss & Colston? You're correct, you are more likely to have more cheap players if you fill all 24 slots. You're also more likely to have more cheap players who don't help you if you fill all 24 slots. At the same time, you're more likely to have more expensive guys if you don't fill all 24 slots. Some of us would just rather take the chance that we "hit something" by upgrading to two or three proven stars than by taking several longshots.
 
Likely to move on at 145, my top dollar investment in QBs (Rodgers, Ryan and Hass) is paying off, but how long will Hass be out now? My RBs are bad, but I knew that going in. My WRs are a disappointment and the money spent on Olsen seems wasted so far. Celek has been big time value. I'm also happy I rejiggered to get 3 TEs, Ks and TDs, I think that's helped as well. Glad I hung on L. Robinson, I've drafted him everywhere I could this year.

 
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THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA said:
STEALS & BUST thus far for the most bang for your buck WR's:

L Fitzgerald ARI - 44

A Johnson HOU - 43

R Moss NE - 42

C Johnson DET - 40

S Smith CAR - 38

R Wayne IND - 36

D Bowe KC - 35

W Welker NE - 33

R White ATL - 33

G Jennings GB - 32

A Boldin ARI - 31

T Owens BUF - 30

T Houshmandzadeh SEA - 30

B Marshall DEN - 29

B Edwards CLE - 28

M Colston NO - 28

C Ochocinco CIN - 27

S Moss WAS - 27

A Gonzalez IND - 26

E Royal DEN - 26

J Cotchery NYJ - 25

S Holmes PIT - 25

H Ward PIT - 24

D Jackson PHI - 24

A Bryant TB - 23

T Holt JAX - 22

D Hixon NYG - 21

V Jackson SD - 21

L Evans BUF - 21

D Driver GB - 21

B Berrian MIN - 21

R Williams DAL - 21

D Avery STL - 21

L Moore NO - 20

L Coles CIN - 19

D Hester CHI - 19

S Breaston ARI - 17

T Ginn MIA - 16

J Morgan SF - 15K Walter HOU - 14

S Smith NYG - 12

C Henry CIN - 12

M Muhammad CAR - 12

E Bennett CHI - 11

C Chambers SD - 10

D Mason BAL - 9

M Walker JAX - 9

M Crabtree SF - 9

M Jenkins ATL - 8

J Gage TEN - 8

K Curtis PHI - 7

M Bradley KC - 7

M Clayton BAL - 7

M Austin DAL - 6

N Washington TEN - 6

J Nelson GB - 5

M Jones - 5

I Bruce SF - 5

N Burleson SEA - 5

J Galloway NE - 5

P Harvin MIN - 5

D Thomas WAS - 4

J Maclin PHI - 4

H Nicks NYG - 4

L Sweed PIT - 4

S Rice MIN - 4

C Stuckey NYJ - 4

B Robiskie CLE - 4

A Randle El WAS - 4

J Higgins OAK - 4

K Burton STL - 4

P Crayton DAL - 4

J Jones GB - 4

M Clayton TB - 4

D Branch SEA - 4

G Camarillo MIA - 4

B Johnson DET - 4

M Thomas JAX - 3

P Garcon IND - 3

C Schilens OAK - 3

J Reed BUF - 3

B Engram KC - 3

M Floyd SD - 3

D Henderson NO - 3

D Jarrett CAR - 3

R Meachem NO - 3

D Bess MIA - 3

D Williams BAL - 3

J Hill SF - 3

R Curry - 2

D Darling - 2

J Avant PHI - 2

D Butler SEA - 2

K Britt TEN - 2

P Burress - 2

B Stokley DEN - 2

D Clowney NYJ - 2

J Walker OAK - 2

A Collie IND - 2

B Smith NYJ - 2

J Urban ARI - 2

A Davis HOU - 2

G Lewis NE - 2

J Jones HOU - 2

L Hawkins TEN - 2

J Iglesias CHI - 2

D Northcutt DET - 2

D Heyward-Bey OAK - 2

B Lloyd DEN - 2

H Douglas ATL - 2

L Robinson STL - 2

R Davis CHI - 2

M Manningham NYG - 2

C Davis SD - 2

D Jackson - 1

S Johnson BUF - 1

S Hurd DAL - 1

R Parrish BUF - 1

J Cribbs CLE - 1

J Dillard JAX - 1

S Stroughter TB - 1

P Turner MIA - 1
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If I was picking today, I would choose:R. Wayne - 36

Santonio Holmes - 25

Vincent Jackson - 21

P. Harvin - 5

J. Avent - 2

L. Robinson - 2

M. Manningham - 2

$93 and seven spots at wr. R. Wayne will be the #1 WR this year yardage wise. I think Pitt and SD are going to have 2 of the top 5 passing attacks in the NFL, with Jackson and Holmes being clearly the main targets. Coleson is tempting as Brees is going to be a monster obviously, but there are just so many targets there. I like Jackson and Holmes to consistently put up very good numbers, and have some monster games too. The other guys are great bargains.

 
I'll be sweating the game tonight.. At 125 with a projected cut of 130...

I have Dallas Clark -10 and Carpenter (K) -1

understatement of the year: I sure hope i don't get booted this early.

 
I've got 134.35 tonight and I'm a little nervous about it. I have Davone Bess (-6.1) going tonight.

All of that said, the simulator is giving me a 100% pass. Anyone ever been at 100% and not make it through to the next week?

:(

 
PatsChowder said:
I've got 134.35 tonight and I'm a little nervous about it. I have Davone Bess (-6.1) going tonight.All of that said, the simulator is giving me a 100% pass. Anyone ever been at 100% and not make it through to the next week? :mellow:
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Doug ran 500 simulations and the highest cut line was at 132. Simlulation provides a very good view of the possible outcomes, but it is not perfect.
 
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