***Official Survivor S29: San Juan Del Sur*** (1 Viewer)

[dparker713]

Boy Kieth and then Natalie just blew that tribal up.

Keith caused a stir, but pretty sure if Natalie keeps her big trap shut Jon is gone.. No idea why she'd warn him there...

Let him fall, you are still in good with his girlfriend and now you can continue on with your "all Girl" plan you made with Baylor.

Yea, I think that will be her downfall, keeping Jon around. Baylor will spill the beans about the idol before they get back to camp....Liking Reed's chances

Jon goes home and the alliance she just voted with would 4 people with 8 remaining. This leaves her majority intact, gets one of Wes or Keith gone and removes atleast 1 idol from play. With Keith playing his idol and another couple being split up makes this the best possible tribal for her.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Boy Kieth and then Natalie just blew that tribal up.

Keith caused a stir, but pretty sure if Natalie keeps her big trap shut Jon is gone.. No idea why she'd warn him there...

Let him fall, you are still in good with his girlfriend and now you can continue on with your "all Girl" plan you made with Baylor.

Yea, I think that will be her downfall, keeping Jon around. Baylor will spill the beans about the idol before they get back to camp....Liking Reed's chances

Jon goes home and the alliance she just voted with would 4 people with 8 remaining. This leaves her majority intact, gets one of Wes or Keith gone and removes atleast 1 idol from play. With Keith playing his idol and another couple being split up makes this the best possible tribal for her.

True. I just get the feeling the longer Jon sticks around its trouble for her. She definitely holds a lot of cards right now. Was a great tribal.Wes has to be living it up at the Ponderosa.

 

[jamny]

Reed takes some blame too. It wasn't too smart of him to call out Keith and Wes on having an idol. If anyone was going to blow the plan, you'd have to think it would be Keith. The goal should be to have him say as little as possible during tribal.

 

[Loan Sharks]

True. I just get the feeling the longer Jon sticks around its trouble for her. She definitely holds a lot of cards right now. Was a great tribal.Wes has to be living it up at the Ponderosa.

Games like this are pretty maddening to me. There is no way Jon is not the winner if he makes it to the end. Yet Natalie passes a chance to get rid of him for Wes or Keith? Who the hell would vote for those two? No one.

This is like JT and Earl etc. People think they will "get them later" and they never do because they get rid of all the people that would vote for him, Nat is playing a bed game.

I now find that Reed is much more tolerable without Josh around.

 

[The Dude]

Keith blew it completely. And he should have sacrificed his idol and brought it our before John. Once John saw him not play it, that was the final straw that the game was afoot.

 

[The Dude]

The best play now would be to get the other 6 to split their vote between John and his girl - and make John fall on the sword (if he gets another idol).

The all girl alliance would be in play to take over.

 

[dparker713]

True. I just get the feeling the longer Jon sticks around its trouble for her. She definitely holds a lot of cards right now. Was a great tribal.Wes has to be living it up at the Ponderosa.

Games like this are pretty maddening to me. There is no way Jon is not the winner if he makes it to the end. Yet Natalie passes a chance to get rid of him for Wes or Keith? Who the hell would vote for those two? No one.

This is like JT and Earl etc. People think they will "get them later" and they never do because they get rid of all the people that would vote for him, Nat is playing a bed game.

I now find that Reed is much more tolerable without Josh around.

I actually think Jon and Jac have very little chance. They've flipped so many times and have basically pissed off everyone already on the jury and would need to piss off the rest to get there. Besides, you can't always gun for strong players (not that I'm sure Jon is one). You have to pick your moments and I don't think now is the optimal time to gun for Jon. And its not like he's been a beast in immunity challenges either.

 

[rick6668]

Reed takes some blame too. It wasn't too smart of him to call out Keith and Wes on having an idol. If anyone was going to blow the plan, you'd have to think it would be Keith. The goal should be to have him say as little as possible during tribal.

Reed calls out Keith and Wes in front of the Jury about an idol. Keith has to be thinking that maybe Reed has flopped to the other side, he did last week.

Natalie is playing a great game. She got Jon to use his idol and now she's the only one left with one and is tightly aligned with Missy/Baylor.

Reed has been outed as playing both sides aggressively, if he doesn't win immunity, he should be the next to go. He's shown to be a schemer and good at challenges. This is the guy you want out. Plenty of time to take Jon out.

 

[Mile High]

Natalie is in good shape. Two hour show next week.

 

[jamny]

What did Jaclyn, who looked so hot during the immunity challenge, say during tribal? Something like "we'll go with you guys" and Jon said "No!"

 

[Mario Kart]

I didn't catch jaclyns issue with having kids. Anyone recall what it is so I can google it?

 

[NREC34]

I didn't catch jaclyns issue with having kids. Anyone recall what it is so I can google it?

Mrkh. Wiki has a pic...

Seeing Jaclyn's armpit hair was a major turn off for me.

Tribal council lost me even after rewinding part of and researching...don't get why Natalie told Jon to play the idol when earlier she said she wanted him out. Was she in on their plan the whole time or just figured it out right then?

 

[squidrope]

Natalie is in good shape. Two hour show next week.

.

 

[peaces]

I would hide the idol in my bung hole

 

[rick6668]

I didn't catch jaclyns issue with having kids. Anyone recall what it is so I can google it?

Mrkh. Wiki has a pic...

Seeing Jaclyn's armpit hair was a major turn off for me.

Tribal council lost me even after rewinding part of and researching...don't get why Natalie told Jon to play the idol when earlier she said she wanted him out. Was she in on their plan the whole time or just figured it out right then?

She wanted him out, but not yet. She wanted Reed out first.turning on your majority too soon can wipe you out.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Reed takes some blame too. It wasn't too smart of him to call out Keith and Wes on having an idol. If anyone was going to blow the plan, you'd have to think it would be Keith. The goal should be to have him say as little as possible during tribal.

Reed calls out Keith and Wes in front of the Jury about an idol. Keith has to be thinking that maybe Reed has flopped to the other side, he did last week.

But that was the entire plan. Reed did exactly what he was suppose to re-affirm the fake plan to split the votes, which was crucial for the real plan to work. Keith should have expected that speach from Reed since it fit their story line.

If Keith had played his part he should have either kept quiet, or when asked by Jeff continue the story by saying "I think Wes or myself are in trouble tonight".

Keith could have even switch the point of conversation by talking about Wes giving up to easily in the challenge, anything but saying "lets stick to the plan" while staring at the one guy in Reed that would sink it.

I don't know if it was editting, but from the edit this was one of the worst verbal trial mistakes I can remember.

 

[jamny]

Reed takes some blame too. It wasn't too smart of him to call out Keith and Wes on having an idol. If anyone was going to blow the plan, you'd have to think it would be Keith. The goal should be to have him say as little as possible during tribal.

Reed calls out Keith and Wes in front of the Jury about an idol. Keith has to be thinking that maybe Reed has flopped to the other side, he did last week.

But that was the entire plan. Reed did exactly what he was suppose to re-affirm the fake plan to split the votes, which was crucial for the real plan to work. Keith should have expected that speach from Reed since it fit their story line.

If Keith had played his part he should have either kept quiet, or when asked by Jeff continue the story by saying "I think Wes or myself are in trouble tonight".

Keith could have even switch the point of conversation by talking about Wes giving up to easily in the challenge, anything but saying "lets stick to the plan" while staring at the one guy in Reed that would sink it.

I don't know if it was editting, but from the edit this was one of the worst verbal trial mistakes I can remember.

If that was the plan it was a bad one because you would have to clearly spell it out for Keith. No way should you assume he would expect that speech. He has shown that he easily reacts to negative comments about him or Wes.

 

[mozzy84]

Reed takes some blame too. It wasn't too smart of him to call out Keith and Wes on having an idol. If anyone was going to blow the plan, you'd have to think it would be Keith. The goal should be to have him say as little as possible during tribal.

Reed calls out Keith and Wes in front of the Jury about an idol. Keith has to be thinking that maybe Reed has flopped to the other side, he did last week.

But that was the entire plan. Reed did exactly what he was suppose to re-affirm the fake plan to split the votes, which was crucial for the real plan to work. Keith should have expected that speach from Reed since it fit their story line.

If Keith had played his part he should have either kept quiet, or when asked by Jeff continue the story by saying "I think Wes or myself are in trouble tonight".

Keith could have even switch the point of conversation by talking about Wes giving up to easily in the challenge, anything but saying "lets stick to the plan" while staring at the one guy in Reed that would sink it.

I don't know if it was editting, but from the edit this was one of the worst verbal trial mistakes I can remember.

If that was the plan it was a bad one because you would have to clearly spell it out for Keith. No way should you assume he would expect that speech. He has shown that he easily reacts to negative comments about him or Wes.

agreed, you have to tell Keith you're going to say something like that, he's not bright enough to figure out its gamesmanship. I knew right away what Reed was doing...

 

[Ned]

Mathematical Numbers

 

[NewlyRetired]

Reed takes some blame too. It wasn't too smart of him to call out Keith and Wes on having an idol. If anyone was going to blow the plan, you'd have to think it would be Keith. The goal should be to have him say as little as possible during tribal.

Reed calls out Keith and Wes in front of the Jury about an idol. Keith has to be thinking that maybe Reed has flopped to the other side, he did last week.

But that was the entire plan. Reed did exactly what he was suppose to re-affirm the fake plan to split the votes, which was crucial for the real plan to work. Keith should have expected that speach from Reed since it fit their story line.

If Keith had played his part he should have either kept quiet, or when asked by Jeff continue the story by saying "I think Wes or myself are in trouble tonight".

Keith could have even switch the point of conversation by talking about Wes giving up to easily in the challenge, anything but saying "lets stick to the plan" while staring at the one guy in Reed that would sink it.

I don't know if it was editting, but from the edit this was one of the worst verbal trial mistakes I can remember.

If that was the plan it was a bad one because you would have to clearly spell it out for Keith. No way should you assume he would expect that speech. He has shown that he easily reacts to negative comments about him or Wes.

I agree. That is why I said I have no idea if it was editting.

Reed has shown in the past that he thinks things through and explains them well. I figured they just editted out the part where he told Keith what he was going to say.

 

[jamny]

I think you're giving Reed too much credit. I think he was still seriously annoyed that Wes stepped down and his comment wasn't planned. Only after he said it did he realize his mistake.

 

[bryhamm]

True. I just get the feeling the longer Jon sticks around its trouble for her. She definitely holds a lot of cards right now. Was a great tribal.Wes has to be living it up at the Ponderosa.

Games like this are pretty maddening to me. There is no way Jon is not the winner if he makes it to the end. Yet Natalie passes a chance to get rid of him for Wes or Keith? Who the hell would vote for those two? No one.

This is like JT and Earl etc. People think they will "get them later" and they never do because they get rid of all the people that would vote for him, Nat is playing a bed game.

I now find that Reed is much more tolerable without Josh around.

I actually think Jon and Jac have very little chance. They've flipped so many times and have basically pissed off everyone already on the jury and would need to piss off the rest to get there. Besides, you can't always gun for strong players (not that I'm sure Jon is one). You have to pick your moments and I don't think now is the optimal time to gun for Jon. And its not like he's been a beast in immunity challenges either.

Agreed. Natalie is in a much better position by not taking Jon out right there. She remains with the power 5 and has already shown that she is likely with Missy and Baylor when it gets down to 5. Take out Jon and Jaclyn at that point.

 

[Michael Brown]

I was kinda rooting for Jeremy, sucks to see him go. but he should have been more proactive about outing Jon to Missy & Baylor.

not sure who I root for now, definitely not Jon or Reed. maybe Natalie or Keith.

and Baylor has a badonkadonk...she should have been facing the other way in the immunity challenge.

Others agree

 

[Corporation]

Reed takes some blame too. It wasn't too smart of him to call out Keith and Wes on having an idol. If anyone was going to blow the plan, you'd have to think it would be Keith. The goal should be to have him say as little as possible during tribal.

This is the thing that I think pushed Keith over. Reed was too smug in trying to show everyone how he was running the game and pushed Keith too far. Jon was a moron to ever agree to that plan anyway.

 

[peaces]

I would hide the idol in my bung hole

I think the jury members would appreciate someone who wanted to win so bad they hid stuff in their butt.

 

[HughHoney]

I was kinda rooting for Jeremy, sucks to see him go. but he should have been more proactive about outing Jon to Missy & Baylor.

not sure who I root for now, definitely not Jon or Reed. maybe Natalie or Keith.

and Baylor has a badonkadonk...she should have been facing the other way in the immunity challenge.

This led me to some other survivor youtube clips. Damn was Morgan and Alexis smoking on Braun vs Brains vs beauty. So many great characters with great personalities playing huge roles on that season. There's at least a half dozen people from that season who'd be the most interesting person if put on this season.

 

[HughHoney]

30+ days on an island with this https://twitter.com/alexis_maxwell/status/469430465590353920. Sign me up.

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

30+ days on an island with this https://twitter.com/alexis_maxwell/status/469430465590353920. Sign me up.

I don't find John Cochran all that attractive.

 

[Fariq]

30+ days on an island with this https://twitter.com/alexis_maxwell/status/469430465590353920. Sign me up.

I don't find John Cochran all that attractive.

Yeah, but he had a nice personality.

 

[Maelstrom]

So...for those that dislike spoilers, don't watch ANY of the upcoming promos CBS is playing. They just spoiled basically the entire episode for this week. Seriously, I don't usually care too much about avoiding "preview spoilers" but this is kind of ridiculous.

If you want to know what it was:

Spoiler

For those that didn't see it and don't care about spoilers, basically they said there was going to be a blind draw to see who goes home. Which means you can pretty much ignore any storyline regarding who's going home during the episode.

 

[HughHoney]

Weird they just showed that preview during the Pack Pats game that was from an earlier season.

The entire preview showed zero people from this season.

 

[Ned]

So...for those that dislike spoilers, don't watch ANY of the upcoming promos CBS is playing. They just spoiled basically the entire episode for this week. Seriously, I don't usually care too much about avoiding "preview spoilers" but this is kind of ridiculous.

If you want to know what it was:

Spoiler

For those that didn't see it and don't care about spoilers, basically they said there was going to be a blind draw to see who goes home. Which means you can pretty much ignore any storyline regarding who's going home during the episode.

Yeah I saw the commercial. Ugh, WTF CBS?!

 

[jamny]

Weird they just showed that preview during the Pack Pats game that was from an earlier season.

The entire preview showed zero people from this season.

lol...wtf?

I had to rewind that. My wife, who doesn't watch it, thought I was nuts.

 

[Mile High]

Weird they just showed that preview during the Pack Pats game that was from an earlier season.

The entire preview showed zero people from this season.

That's because it was a mistake on CBSs part.nothing to see.

 

[Maelstrom]

Weird they just showed that preview during the Pack Pats game that was from an earlier season.

The entire preview showed zero people from this season.

That's because it was a mistake on CBSs part.nothing to see.

I thought it was showing the previous seasons' players because they were the ones that last did what the promo was saying was coming.

I hope it's just a rerun, I only saw it the once.

 

[snogger]

Weird they just showed that preview during the Pack Pats game that was from an earlier season.

The entire preview showed zero people from this season.

That's because it was a mistake on CBSs part.nothing to see.

I thought it was showing the previous seasons' players because they were the ones that last did what the promo was saying was coming.

I hope it's just a rerun, I only saw it the once.

Hoping it was a F'up and they reran an old commercial..

If in fact it happens

 

[Ned]

Weird they just showed that preview during the Pack Pats game that was from an earlier season.

The entire preview showed zero people from this season.

That's because it was a mistake on CBSs part.nothing to see.

I thought it was showing the previous seasons' players because they were the ones that last did what the promo was saying was coming.

I hope it's just a rerun, I only saw it the once.

Hoping it was a F'up and they reran an old commercial..

If in fact it happens

Ohhhhhhh, ha. I bet you're right.

 

[dhockster]

I have to give Natalie credit for how she told Jon to play his idol.

NatL: "You better play your idol"

Jon: "Really?!"

Nat: "It's up to you (shaking her head)".

I think she would have been happy if Keith or Wes had gone or if Jon was blindsided. She just was trying to get him to play his idol. If he had played his idol and had not been blindsided, she could have said "I told you it was your decision". I don't know if she planned this, but Jon playing his idol forced Keith to play his.

Question: Keith and Wes knew the plan was for Keith to have 3 votes and Wes to have 2 (with Jon being blindsided with 4). So when Jon plays his idol, Keith knows that he is going home unless he plays the idol. If he

plays the idol, Wes is going home. Either way there is only one family member left, with no idol. Could Keith have not played the idol but put it into Wes' bag, so that the remaining family member (Wes) would at least have an

idol?

 

[bryhamm]

I believe he could have done this as long as it was prior to votes being read.

 

[bryhamm]

But that would also require Keith to actually have an intelligent thought process. Something I am not sure he is capable of doing.

 

[Disco Stu]

Yes, and I think the idol was already in Wes's bag. Pretty sure Keith said "get it out".

 

[Maelstrom]

I have to give Natalie credit for how she told Jon to play his idol.

NatL: "You better play your idol"

Jon: "Really?!"

Nat: "It's up to you (shaking her head)".

I think she would have been happy if Keith or Wes had gone or if Jon was blindsided. She just was trying to get him to play his idol. If he had played his idol and had not been blindsided, she could have said "I told you it was your decision". I don't know if she planned this, but Jon playing his idol forced Keith to play his.

Question: Keith and Wes knew the plan was for Keith to have 3 votes and Wes to have 2 (with Jon being blindsided with 4). So when Jon plays his idol, Keith knows that he is going home unless he plays the idol. If he

plays the idol, Wes is going home. Either way there is only one family member left, with no idol. Could Keith have not played the idol but put it into Wes' bag, so that the remaining family member (Wes) would at least have an

idol?

She wanted Jon around one more vote to guarantee her alliance the numbers. As mentioned before, she's like in with the mom/daughter pair, so letting Keith or Wes go makes sense. Keeps here alliance 5 strong rather than 4-4 tie, and allows her to (in theory) pick off the next 5 (including Jon/Jaclyn) and go to the finals with the pair she wants to. (no credit for that analysis to be, I'm pretty sure I read it earlier in this thread.)

 

[EYLive]

I didn't catch jaclyns issue with having kids. Anyone recall what it is so I can google it?

Mrkh. Wiki has a pic...

Seeing Jaclyn's armpit hair was a major turn off for me.

Tribal council lost me even after rewinding part of and researching...don't get why Natalie told Jon to play the idol when earlier she said she wanted him out. Was she in on their plan the whole time or just figured it out right then?

The fact that she can't get pregnant makes her more hot.

 

[dhockster]

I have to give Natalie credit for how she told Jon to play his idol.

NatL: "You better play your idol"

Jon: "Really?!"

Nat: "It's up to you (shaking her head)".

I think she would have been happy if Keith or Wes had gone or if Jon was blindsided. She just was trying to get him to play his idol. If he had played his idol and had not been blindsided, she could have said "I told you it was your decision". I don't know if she planned this, but Jon playing his idol forced Keith to play his.

Question: Keith and Wes knew the plan was for Keith to have 3 votes and Wes to have 2 (with Jon being blindsided with 4). So when Jon plays his idol, Keith knows that he is going home unless he plays the idol. If he

plays the idol, Wes is going home. Either way there is only one family member left, with no idol. Could Keith have not played the idol but put it into Wes' bag, so that the remaining family member (Wes) would at least have an

idol?

She wanted Jon around one more vote to guarantee her alliance the numbers. As mentioned before, she's like in with the mom/daughter pair, so letting Keith or Wes go makes sense. Keeps here alliance 5 strong rather than 4-4 tie, and allows her to (in theory) pick off the next 5 (including Jon/Jaclyn) and go to the finals with the pair she wants to. (no credit for that analysis to be, I'm pretty sure I read it earlier in this thread.)

No, I agree with you that she preferred Jon to stay. But she did not control whether he played the idol. I just liked how she suggested it but then said it was his decision. She covered herself either way it went.

 

[Jayrok]

I have to give Natalie credit for how she told Jon to play his idol.

NatL: "You better play your idol"

Jon: "Really?!"

Nat: "It's up to you (shaking her head)".

I think she would have been happy if Keith or Wes had gone or if Jon was blindsided. She just was trying to get him to play his idol. If he had played his idol and had not been blindsided, she could have said "I told you it was your decision". I don't know if she planned this, but Jon playing his idol forced Keith to play his.

Question: Keith and Wes knew the plan was for Keith to have 3 votes and Wes to have 2 (with Jon being blindsided with 4). So when Jon plays his idol, Keith knows that he is going home unless he plays the idol. If he

plays the idol, Wes is going home. Either way there is only one family member left, with no idol. Could Keith have not played the idol but put it into Wes' bag, so that the remaining family member (Wes) would at least have an

idol?

She wanted Jon around one more vote to guarantee her alliance the numbers. As mentioned before, she's like in with the mom/daughter pair, so letting Keith or Wes go makes sense. Keeps here alliance 5 strong rather than 4-4 tie, and allows her to (in theory) pick off the next 5 (including Jon/Jaclyn) and go to the finals with the pair she wants to. (no credit for that analysis to be, I'm pretty sure I read it earlier in this thread.)

No, I agree with you that she preferred Jon to stay. But she did not control whether he played the idol. I just liked how she suggested it but then said it was his decision. She covered herself either way it went.

Yeah I think she did well there. She wants Jon out but not yet and her little gesture to him during tribal not only kept him around, but flushed his idol for when she wants to get him out. Good move on her part.

 

[blend]

I have to give Natalie credit for how she told Jon to play his idol.

NatL: "You better play your idol"

Jon: "Really?!"

Nat: "It's up to you (shaking her head)".

I think she would have been happy if Keith or Wes had gone or if Jon was blindsided. She just was trying to get him to play his idol. If he had played his idol and had not been blindsided, she could have said "I told you it was your decision". I don't know if she planned this, but Jon playing his idol forced Keith to play his.

Question: Keith and Wes knew the plan was for Keith to have 3 votes and Wes to have 2 (with Jon being blindsided with 4). So when Jon plays his idol, Keith knows that he is going home unless he plays the idol. If he

plays the idol, Wes is going home. Either way there is only one family member left, with no idol. Could Keith have not played the idol but put it into Wes' bag, so that the remaining family member (Wes) would at least have an

idol?

She wanted Jon around one more vote to guarantee her alliance the numbers. As mentioned before, she's like in with the mom/daughter pair, so letting Keith or Wes go makes sense. Keeps here alliance 5 strong rather than 4-4 tie, and allows her to (in theory) pick off the next 5 (including Jon/Jaclyn) and go to the finals with the pair she wants to. (no credit for that analysis to be, I'm pretty sure I read it earlier in this thread.)

No, I agree with you that she preferred Jon to stay. But she did not control whether he played the idol. I just liked how she suggested it but then said it was his decision. She covered herself either way it went.

Yeah I think she did well there. She wants Jon out but not yet and her little gesture to him during tribal not only kept him around, but flushed his idol for when she wants to get him out. Good move on her part.

I agree it was a good move.. but I think we may be giving her too much credit for game-play. I think she's a dolt and doubt she thought that far in advance.

 

[Jayrok]

You're probably right.

 

[dhockster]

I have to give Natalie credit for how she told Jon to play his idol.

NatL: "You better play your idol"

Jon: "Really?!"

Nat: "It's up to you (shaking her head)".

I think she would have been happy if Keith or Wes had gone or if Jon was blindsided. She just was trying to get him to play his idol. If he had played his idol and had not been blindsided, she could have said "I told you it was your decision". I don't know if she planned this, but Jon playing his idol forced Keith to play his.

Question: Keith and Wes knew the plan was for Keith to have 3 votes and Wes to have 2 (with Jon being blindsided with 4). So when Jon plays his idol, Keith knows that he is going home unless he plays the idol. If he

plays the idol, Wes is going home. Either way there is only one family member left, with no idol. Could Keith have not played the idol but put it into Wes' bag, so that the remaining family member (Wes) would at least have an

idol?

She wanted Jon around one more vote to guarantee her alliance the numbers. As mentioned before, she's like in with the mom/daughter pair, so letting Keith or Wes go makes sense. Keeps here alliance 5 strong rather than 4-4 tie, and allows her to (in theory) pick off the next 5 (including Jon/Jaclyn) and go to the finals with the pair she wants to. (no credit for that analysis to be, I'm pretty sure I read it earlier in this thread.)

No, I agree with you that she preferred Jon to stay. But she did not control whether he played the idol. I just liked how she suggested it but then said it was his decision. She covered herself either way it went.

Yeah I think she did well there. She wants Jon out but not yet and her little gesture to him during tribal not only kept him around, but flushed his idol for when she wants to get him out. Good move on her part.

I agree it was a good move.. but I think we may be giving her too much credit for game-play. I think she's a dolt and doubt she thought that far in advance.

I think we will know a lot more about how smart she is after this week.

 

[Loan Sharks]

I have to give Natalie credit for how she told Jon to play his idol.

NatL: "You better play your idol"

Jon: "Really?!"

Nat: "It's up to you (shaking her head)".

I think she would have been happy if Keith or Wes had gone or if Jon was blindsided. She just was trying to get him to play his idol. If he had played his idol and had not been blindsided, she could have said "I told you it was your decision". I don't know if she planned this, but Jon playing his idol forced Keith to play his.

Question: Keith and Wes knew the plan was for Keith to have 3 votes and Wes to have 2 (with Jon being blindsided with 4). So when Jon plays his idol, Keith knows that he is going home unless he plays the idol. If he

plays the idol, Wes is going home. Either way there is only one family member left, with no idol. Could Keith have not played the idol but put it into Wes' bag, so that the remaining family member (Wes) would at least have an

idol?

She wanted Jon around one more vote to guarantee her alliance the numbers. As mentioned before, she's like in with the mom/daughter pair, so letting Keith or Wes go makes sense. Keeps here alliance 5 strong rather than 4-4 tie, and allows her to (in theory) pick off the next 5 (including Jon/Jaclyn) and go to the finals with the pair she wants to. (no credit for that analysis to be, I'm pretty sure I read it earlier in this thread.)

No, I agree with you that she preferred Jon to stay. But she did not control whether he played the idol. I just liked how she suggested it but then said it was his decision. She covered herself either way it went.

Yeah I think she did well there. She wants Jon out but not yet and her little gesture to him during tribal not only kept him around, but flushed his idol for when she wants to get him out. Good move on her part.

I agree it was a good move.. but I think we may be giving her too much credit for game-play. I think she's a dolt and doubt she thought that far in advance.

I think we will know a lot more about how smart she is after this week.

I think I figured out how smart she was when she was attempting to insult someone she didn't know in John Rocker and she called him a homophobical.

 

[Rand al Thor]

I didn't catch jaclyns issue with having kids. Anyone recall what it is so I can google it?

Mrkh. Wiki has a pic...

Seeing Jaclyn's armpit hair was a major turn off for me.

Tribal council lost me even after rewinding part of and researching...don't get why Natalie told Jon to play the idol when earlier she said she wanted him out. Was she in on their plan the whole time or just figured it out right then?

The fact that she can't get pregnant makes her more hot.

If you do some research on MRKH, you'll see that she may be lacking a "functional" ######. That would suck. http://www.businessinsider.com/lab-grown-######s-mrkh-syndrome-2014-4