***Official Texas Rangers 2011 Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[RnR]

Game 2

Lewis v Garcia: On any metric I can see this looks to be a huge advantage to Rangers here. Garcia is not in the same class as the 2-4 starters for the Tigers or Rays.

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?Here are a few where you could have started: HR/9, K/BB, or even good old fashioned ERA. I'll give you a pass on the ERA, given it isn't particularly useful and assuming you were using normalized numbers to factor out your bandbox of a home park.

Also, Garcia is 9-4 with 2.55 ERA, 1.11 WHIP in 15 starts at home this season. I've looked a Lewis' numbers on the road and they're pretty good too, but that's another "metric" you could have tried. Garcia is also better than Scherzer or Porcello in almost every metric, so I'm not sure where you get off saying that about the Tigers starters.

Lohse had his best stuff years ago? Maybe. But this was far and away the best season of his 11-year career, so I'd bet he argues against that sentiment.

 

[ctdub]

Game 2

Lewis v Garcia: On any metric I can see this looks to be a huge advantage to Rangers here. Garcia is not in the same class as the 2-4 starters for the Tigers or Rays.

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?Here are a few where you could have started: HR/9, K/BB, or even good old fashioned ERA. I'll give you a pass on the ERA, given it isn't particularly useful and assuming you were using normalized numbers to factor out your bandbox of a home park.

Also, Garcia is 9-4 with 2.55 ERA, 1.11 WHIP in 15 starts at home this season. I've looked a Lewis' numbers on the road and they're pretty good too, but that's another "metric" you could have tried. Garcia is also better than Scherzer or Porcello in almost every metric, so I'm not sure where you get off saying that about the Tigers starters.

Lohse had his best stuff years ago? Maybe. But this was far and away the best season of his 11-year career, so I'd bet he argues against that sentiment.

Ok. I see you are here. We found out before the last series that Scherzer was better than any pitcher not named Verlander or Fister. Now you are telling us Garcia is better than Scherzer?

 

[RnR]

Game 2

Lewis v Garcia: On any metric I can see this looks to be a huge advantage to Rangers here. Garcia is not in the same class as the 2-4 starters for the Tigers or Rays.

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?Here are a few where you could have started: HR/9, K/BB, or even good old fashioned ERA. I'll give you a pass on the ERA, given it isn't particularly useful and assuming you were using normalized numbers to factor out your bandbox of a home park.

Also, Garcia is 9-4 with 2.55 ERA, 1.11 WHIP in 15 starts at home this season. I've looked a Lewis' numbers on the road and they're pretty good too, but that's another "metric" you could have tried. Garcia is also better than Scherzer or Porcello in almost every metric, so I'm not sure where you get off saying that about the Tigers starters.

Lohse had his best stuff years ago? Maybe. But this was far and away the best season of his 11-year career, so I'd bet he argues against that sentiment.

Ok. I see you are here. We found out before the last series that Scherzer was better than any pitcher not named Verlander or Fister. Now you are telling us Garcia is better than Scherzer?

I'm not fishing. They're completely different pitchers. One is a wildly inconsistent hard throwing righty, the other is a steady-as-you-go finesse lefty. The numbers side with Garcia, so I really don't have to make an argument here. Just because you guys are too wrapped up in your own team to take a large view of Major League Baseball doesn't make me a homer about Jaime Garcia.Trust me, if there is any homerism going on in here, its being done by Texas Ranger fans. I'll give you a hint: Wilson, Lewis, Holland, and Harrison, as a whole, aren't that good.

I'll also give you another analysis: Your hitters are not only "that good", they're probably better than advertised. So I'm certainly not trying to pay your team any disrespect when I say that about your pitchers, I think your team is quite good.

 

[Disco Stu]

Trust me, if there is any homerism going on in here, its being done by Texas Ranger fans.

In the ***Official Texas Rangers*** thread??? I don't believe you.

 

[RnR]

First nine words of my response...

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?

 

[culdeus]

Game 2

Lewis v Garcia: On any metric I can see this looks to be a huge advantage to Rangers here. Garcia is not in the same class as the 2-4 starters for the Tigers or Rays.

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?Here are a few where you could have started: HR/9, K/BB, or even good old fashioned ERA. I'll give you a pass on the ERA, given it isn't particularly useful and assuming you were using normalized numbers to factor out your bandbox of a home park.

Also, Garcia is 9-4 with 2.55 ERA, 1.11 WHIP in 15 starts at home this season. I've looked a Lewis' numbers on the road and they're pretty good too, but that's another "metric" you could have tried. Garcia is also better than Scherzer or Porcello in almost every metric, so I'm not sure where you get off saying that about the Tigers starters.

Lohse had his best stuff years ago? Maybe. But this was far and away the best season of his 11-year career, so I'd bet he argues against that sentiment.

Ok. I see you are here. We found out before the last series that Scherzer was better than any pitcher not named Verlander or Fister. Now you are telling us Garcia is better than Scherzer?

I'm not fishing. They're completely different pitchers. One is a wildly inconsistent hard throwing righty, the other is a steady-as-you-go finesse lefty. The numbers side with Garcia, so I really don't have to make an argument here. Just because you guys are too wrapped up in your own team to take a large view of Major League Baseball doesn't make me a homer about Jaime Garcia.Trust me, if there is any homerism going on in here, its being done by Texas Ranger fans. I'll give you a hint: Wilson, Lewis, Holland, and Harrison, as a whole, aren't that good.

I'll also give you another analysis: Your hitters are not only "that good", they're probably better than advertised. So I'm certainly not trying to pay your team any disrespect when I say that about your pitchers, I think your team is quite good.

I think I've said at least 3x in the last page and probably 10x in this thread that I don't know a damn thing about what goes on in the NL outside of very, very loosely following the Astros.

 

[Disco Stu]

First nine words of my response...

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?

Can't have it both ways. First line of the culdeus post you were responding to...

Keep in mind I have next to no knowledge of the NL.

 

[RnR]

First nine words of my response...

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?

Can't have it both ways. First line of the culdeus post you were responding to...

Keep in mind I have next to no knowledge of the NL.

He also says he sees no possible metric that would match Jaime Garcia to Colby Lewis. I gave him a few to look at. Knowledge of the NL aside, those are not hard things to find if you're trying to do some pseudo analysis of the pitching match-ups in the series.

 

[Bogart]

For those of you who bet the Over on Jamie Garcia posts in this thread, please go collect your winnings from the cashier.

Congrats.

 

[Disco Stu]

For Bogart. The last one is my favorite.

 

[Bogart]

Not a big fan of the whole homefield based on All-Star game thing right now. 96 wins, ties us with Milwaukee for third most overall. Not sure how that tie would normally be broken for the #3 seed. St Louis and their 90 wins gets them #8, and homefield in the WS.

At least we had some control this time with Wash managing, but his hands were tied when it came to pitching in that game. Verlander, Sabathia, Felix, Lester, Beckett, Price and Mariano all unavailable.

CJ got the loss, so I guess we can't complain too much. The rule is still dumb, but at least it wasn't completely out of our hands.

CJ just knew he was starting game one, and he wanted to hit. He had it planned all along.

Good point. Hoping to hear

Only about 4 people laughed at this, but they laughed their ### off.

 

[Bogart]

For Bogart. The last one is my favorite.

I should hate CJ more than I hate Corby, because face it, he is a bigger #####, but I just can't hate CJ. I think the fact that Corby hasn't done a damn thing to get what he has gotten really pisses me off.

 

[ctdub]

I'll give you a hint: Wilson, Lewis, Holland, and Harrison, as a whole, aren't that good.

Compared to who? Those 4 amassed a 3.65 ERA, 81 quality starts and combined for 58 wins. Texas had 19 shutouts this year as a team 2nd only to Philly. Oh and we have a #5 who was an all star coming out of the bullpen if anyone slips up. Playoffs haven't been excellent to this crew so far, but that shouldn't take diminish how good they were during the season. Lewis may have the only QS of the post season for the Rangers, but Wash has also called on Ogando early with a lead when a quality start was in reach. These 2 teams are very similar and I think Texas has a slight edge on bullpen.If these 4 aren't that good please tell we where the line is that seperates good and bad.

 

[Disco Stu]

No Japanese relievers...

The Rangers have added pitcher Mark Lowe and catcher Matt Treanor to their World Series roster. They have taken off relievers Yoshinori Tateyama and Koji Uehara.

Treanor gives the Rangers an extra position player, allowing the Rangers to freely use reserve catcher Yorvit Torrealba as a pinch-hitter or designated hitter. Treanor was active for the American League Division Series, but he did not play. He was not active for the AL Championship Series against Detroit.

Lowe, who has been sidelined with a strained left hamstring, was 2-3 with a 3.80 ERA in 52 games. He pitched 45 innings and allowed 46 hits and 19 walks while striking out 42. He had a 2.95 ERA after the All-Star break while holding opponents to a .214 batting average.

Lowe has not pitched since Sept. 20, but he has been throwing in the bullpen and got through two batting-practice sessions in the past week without any problems.

Tateyama made one appearance in the ALCS and was not on the active roster for the ALDS against Tampa Bay.

Uehara was active for the first two rounds and pitched in three games. He faced 11 batters and allowed five hits, including three home runs. He also walked two batters.

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[Bogart]

No Japanese relievers...

The Rangers have added pitcher Mark Lowe and catcher Matt Treanor to their World Series roster. They have taken off relievers Yoshinori Tateyama and Koji Uehara.

Treanor gives the Rangers an extra position player, allowing the Rangers to freely use reserve catcher Yorvit Torrealba as a pinch-hitter or designated hitter. Treanor was active for the American League Division Series, but he did not play. He was not active for the AL Championship Series against Detroit.

Lowe, who has been sidelined with a strained left hamstring, was 2-3 with a 3.80 ERA in 52 games. He pitched 45 innings and allowed 46 hits and 19 walks while striking out 42. He had a 2.95 ERA after the All-Star break while holding opponents to a .214 batting average.

Lowe has not pitched since Sept. 20, but he has been throwing in the bullpen and got through two batting-practice sessions in the past week without any problems.

Tateyama made one appearance in the ALCS and was not on the active roster for the ALDS against Tampa Bay.

Uehara was active for the first two rounds and pitched in three games. He faced 11 batters and allowed five hits, including three home runs. He also walked two batters.

Link

I think those are the right moves. Extra bat for extra arm just makes sense. You are going to ride your stud arms at this point anyway. Let's you play Napoli without worrying about him having to come in for YT behind the plate in case of injury. Koji just isn't right, and he knows it. I just hope this doesn't affect him for next year.

 

[Disco Stu]

I think those are the right moves. Extra bat for extra arm just makes sense. You are going to ride your stud arms at this point anyway. Let's you play Napoli without worrying about him having to come in for YT behind the plate in case of injury. Koji just isn't right, and he knows it. I just hope this doesn't affect him for next year.

Yeah, this was basically an extra bat and an extra arm for two empty shirts. You didn't want to let either of those guys throw a meaningful pitch. I like Lowe.

 

[culdeus]

I think those are the right moves. Extra bat for extra arm just makes sense. You are going to ride your stud arms at this point anyway. Let's you play Napoli without worrying about him having to come in for YT behind the plate in case of injury. Koji just isn't right, and he knows it. I just hope this doesn't affect him for next year.

Yeah, this was basically an extra bat and an extra arm for two empty shirts. You didn't want to let either of those guys throw a meaningful pitch. I like Lowe.

Lowe was adamant about a shot on the roster. Koji wanted to be anywhere else.

 

[culdeus]

Will be at Game 3 for sure. Not Game 4, but Game 5* also looks doable.

*If Necessary

 

[Disco Stu]

Will be at Game 3 for sure. Not Game 4, but Game 5* also looks doable. *If Necessary

Can I have your Game 4 tickets?

 

[culdeus]

Will be at Game 3 for sure. Not Game 4, but Game 5* also looks doable. *If Necessary

Can I have your Game 4 tickets?

spoke for, sorry gb

 

[Bogart]

Babyarm to everyone tonight. Not sure if I will be in thread during the game.

 

[culdeus]

We sure Ron knows how to manage in an nl park?

 

[Bogart]

We sure Ron knows how to manage in an nl park?

I'm not sure.German should not have the most important AB of any game. You pitch to Punto there instead of getting to the 9 spot and a pinch hitter.

 

[Bogart]

We sure Ron knows how to manage in an nl park?

I'm not sure.German should not have the most important AB of any game. You pitch to Punto there instead of getting to the 9 spot and a pinch hitter.

The more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. As a manager you put your best players in the best chance to win, and that is it. Washington did neither here. Wasn't fair to German, wasn't fair to the entire team.

 

[ctdub]

We sure Ron knows how to manage in an nl park?

I'm not sure.German should not have the most important AB of any game. You pitch to Punto there instead of getting to the 9 spot and a pinch hitter.

The more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. As a manager you put your best players in the best chance to win, and that is it. Washington did neither here. Wasn't fair to German, wasn't fair to the entire team.

Yep. Torrealba should have taken the AB. In the end the result may have been the same, but at least we would have had the best chance of success. Why put Treanor on the roster if you aren't going to use Torrey?

 

[Disco Stu]

We sure Ron knows how to manage in an nl park?

I'm not sure.German should not have the most important AB of any game. You pitch to Punto there instead of getting to the 9 spot and a pinch hitter.

The more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. As a manager you put your best players in the best chance to win, and that is it. Washington did neither here. Wasn't fair to German, wasn't fair to the entire team.

Yep. Torrealba should have taken the AB. In the end the result may have been the same, but at least we would have had the best chance of success. Why put Treanor on the roster if you aren't going to use Torrey?

With as hot as Murphy is, I don't think he's a guy you pull in that situation. Give him a shot against the lefty, and then use either Gentry or Yorvit in the #9 spot.Hopefully this stat improves soon: Torrealba is 1-for-26 as a pinch-hitter for his career, that one hit coming in 2006.

 

[culdeus]

I've come to the conclusion after years of observation and study, that I, myself am incapable of understanding NL baseball.

totaly shuked

and drunk

snow monkeys

 

[ctdub]

We need to take 2/3 at home. I did everything I could tonight to jinx the cards with no luck. Finally I gave up all hope and that worked.

 

[RnR]

Game 2

Lewis v Garcia: On any metric I can see this looks to be a huge advantage to Rangers here. Garcia is not in the same class as the 2-4 starters for the Tigers or Rays.

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?Here are a few where you could have started: HR/9, K/BB, or even good old fashioned ERA. I'll give you a pass on the ERA, given it isn't particularly useful and assuming you were using normalized numbers to factor out your bandbox of a home park.

Also, Garcia is 9-4 with 2.55 ERA, 1.11 WHIP in 15 starts at home this season. I've looked a Lewis' numbers on the road and they're pretty good too, but that's another "metric" you could have tried. Garcia is also better than Scherzer or Porcello in almost every metric, so I'm not sure where you get off saying that about the Tigers starters.

Lohse had his best stuff years ago? Maybe. But this was far and away the best season of his 11-year career, so I'd bet he argues against that sentiment.

Ok. I see you are here. We found out before the last series that Scherzer was better than any pitcher not named Verlander or Fister. Now you are telling us Garcia is better than Scherzer?

First and foremost, excellent baseball game. Tip of the hat to your 1-4 hitters for scrapping together two runs in the ninth to take a nail biter. I'd be lying if I said that loss wasn't like a punch to the balls. Hopefully we can steal one or two in Arlington.I am curious though, do you guys still hold the same opinion of Jaime Garcia?

 

[culdeus]

Game 2

Lewis v Garcia: On any metric I can see this looks to be a huge advantage to Rangers here. Garcia is not in the same class as the 2-4 starters for the Tigers or Rays.

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?Here are a few where you could have started: HR/9, K/BB, or even good old fashioned ERA. I'll give you a pass on the ERA, given it isn't particularly useful and assuming you were using normalized numbers to factor out your bandbox of a home park.

Also, Garcia is 9-4 with 2.55 ERA, 1.11 WHIP in 15 starts at home this season. I've looked a Lewis' numbers on the road and they're pretty good too, but that's another "metric" you could have tried. Garcia is also better than Scherzer or Porcello in almost every metric, so I'm not sure where you get off saying that about the Tigers starters.

Lohse had his best stuff years ago? Maybe. But this was far and away the best season of his 11-year career, so I'd bet he argues against that sentiment.

Ok. I see you are here. We found out before the last series that Scherzer was better than any pitcher not named Verlander or Fister. Now you are telling us Garcia is better than Scherzer?

First and foremost, excellent baseball game. Tip of the hat to your 1-4 hitters for scrapping together two runs in the ninth to take a nail biter. I'd be lying if I said that loss wasn't like a punch to the balls. Hopefully we can steal one or two in Arlington.I am curious though, do you guys still hold the same opinion of Jaime Garcia?

No, he's a good.

 

[Bogart]

First and foremost, excellent baseball game. Tip of the hat to your 1-4 hitters for scrapping together two runs in the ninth to take a nail biter. I'd be lying if I said that loss wasn't like a punch to the balls. Hopefully we can steal one or two in Arlington.I am curious though, do you guys still hold the same opinion of Jaime Garcia?

Garcia pitched a hell of a game. Texas always seems to have a hard time with finesse guys, but he really stepped up tonight.

 

[culdeus]

anyone here black ops?

 

[Disco Stu]

Game 2

Lewis v Garcia: On any metric I can see this looks to be a huge advantage to Rangers here. Garcia is not in the same class as the 2-4 starters for the Tigers or Rays.

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?Here are a few where you could have started: HR/9, K/BB, or even good old fashioned ERA. I'll give you a pass on the ERA, given it isn't particularly useful and assuming you were using normalized numbers to factor out your bandbox of a home park.

Also, Garcia is 9-4 with 2.55 ERA, 1.11 WHIP in 15 starts at home this season. I've looked a Lewis' numbers on the road and they're pretty good too, but that's another "metric" you could have tried. Garcia is also better than Scherzer or Porcello in almost every metric, so I'm not sure where you get off saying that about the Tigers starters.

Lohse had his best stuff years ago? Maybe. But this was far and away the best season of his 11-year career, so I'd bet he argues against that sentiment.

Ok. I see you are here. We found out before the last series that Scherzer was better than any pitcher not named Verlander or Fister. Now you are telling us Garcia is better than Scherzer?

First and foremost, excellent baseball game. Tip of the hat to your 1-4 hitters for scrapping together two runs in the ninth to take a nail biter. I'd be lying if I said that loss wasn't like a punch to the balls. Hopefully we can steal one or two in Arlington.I am curious though, do you guys still hold the same opinion of Jaime Garcia?

I think you (understandably) missed it the first time, but ctdub's post was tongue in cheek. Last series we were told all about the greatness of the legendary Scherzer, so the thought of anyone being better than him was tough to imagine.His post really didn't have anything to do with Garcia, when you look at it with full context. He's good.

And yes, quite the game last night.

 

[Disco Stu]

Texas always seems to have a hard time with finesse guys

Yes, they do. That had me very concerned going into the game. I felt real good about Colby though. Guy is a rock.

 

[ctdub]

Game 2

Lewis v Garcia: On any metric I can see this looks to be a huge advantage to Rangers here. Garcia is not in the same class as the 2-4 starters for the Tigers or Rays.

I know this is the Rangers thread, but seriously?Here are a few where you could have started: HR/9, K/BB, or even good old fashioned ERA. I'll give you a pass on the ERA, given it isn't particularly useful and assuming you were using normalized numbers to factor out your bandbox of a home park.

Also, Garcia is 9-4 with 2.55 ERA, 1.11 WHIP in 15 starts at home this season. I've looked a Lewis' numbers on the road and they're pretty good too, but that's another "metric" you could have tried. Garcia is also better than Scherzer or Porcello in almost every metric, so I'm not sure where you get off saying that about the Tigers starters.

Lohse had his best stuff years ago? Maybe. But this was far and away the best season of his 11-year career, so I'd bet he argues against that sentiment.

Ok. I see you are here. We found out before the last series that Scherzer was better than any pitcher not named Verlander or Fister. Now you are telling us Garcia is better than Scherzer?

First and foremost, excellent baseball game. Tip of the hat to your 1-4 hitters for scrapping together two runs in the ninth to take a nail biter. I'd be lying if I said that loss wasn't like a punch to the balls. Hopefully we can steal one or two in Arlington.I am curious though, do you guys still hold the same opinion of Jaime Garcia?

I think you (understandably) missed it the first time, but ctdub's post was tongue in cheek. Last series we were told all about the greatness of the legendary Scherzer, so the thought of anyone being better than him was tough to imagine.His post really didn't have anything to do with Garcia, when you look at it with full context. He's good.

And yes, quite the game last night.

I'm just glad our "aren't that good" starting pitching staff is keeping us in the games.

 

[culdeus]

Harrison instead of holland g3

That might drive down beer sales.

 

[culdeus]

Oh, and that e to kins glove throw was further than a 3 point shot in the nba. Warrants mentioning.

 

[Bogart]

Oh, and that e to kins glove throw was further than a 3 point shot in the nba. Warrants mentioning.

That is a play for the ages. Tiny E will have that play in his highlight package from here on out. Kevin Elster never makes that play.

 

[culdeus]

Oh, and that e to kins glove throw was further than a 3 point shot in the nba. Warrants mentioning.

That is a play for the ages. Tiny E will have that play in his highlight package from here on out. Kevin Elster never makes that play.

what about jeter?

 

[russinfortworth]

Oh, and that e to kins glove throw was further than a 3 point shot in the nba. Warrants mentioning.

That is a play for the ages. Tiny E will have that play in his highlight package from here on out. Kevin Elster never makes that play.

what about jeter?

According to NY fans, "every day and twice on Sunday". Maybe so, but the only way he makes it is if he is cheating that way to begin with.

 

[Bogart]

Oh, and that e to kins glove throw was further than a 3 point shot in the nba. Warrants mentioning.

That is a play for the ages. Tiny E will have that play in his highlight package from here on out. Kevin Elster never makes that play.

what about jeter?

According to NY fans, "every day and twice on Sunday". Maybe so, but the only way he makes it is if he is cheating that way to begin with.

Jeter would not even have to leave his feet on that play. I'm pretty sure the outfielder could throw it back in to Jeter where he could just catch it on the fly.

 

[russinfortworth]

Oh, and that e to kins glove throw was further than a 3 point shot in the nba. Warrants mentioning.

That is a play for the ages. Tiny E will have that play in his highlight package from here on out. Kevin Elster never makes that play.

what about jeter?

According to NY fans, "every day and twice on Sunday". Maybe so, but the only way he makes it is if he is cheating that way to begin with.

Jeter would not even have to leave his feet on that play. I'm pretty sure the outfielder could throw it back in to Jeter where he could just catch it on the fly.

My son's team had a SS like that this past year.Great range up the middle, but an amazing number of balls went between SS and 3rd (my son's position). Of course if you looked at where the SS was positioned compared to the other SS, he was about 10 feet towards 2nd and about 10 deeper. Coach would never correct him which caused many parents to look like this by the end of the year.........

 

[Captain Hook]

Great W for the Rangers last night - Lewis and Garcia both pitched great

...and while I am glad the Rangers pulled it out, it was painful watching Hamilton again trying to hit while he is 50% at best. Would really have been a better lineup to bench him for a game in colder temperatures and give him an extra day of rest - hopefully the day off today will help enough - they ARE going to need him back in the upcoming games

 

[Disco Stu]

Not a big fan of the whole homefield based on All-Star game thing right now. 96 wins, ties us with Milwaukee for third most overall. Not sure how that tie would normally be broken for the #3 seed. St Louis and their 90 wins gets them #8, and homefield in the WS.

At least we had some control this time with Wash managing, but his hands were tied when it came to pitching in that game. Verlander, Sabathia, Felix, Lester, Beckett, Price and Mariano all unavailable.

CJ got the loss, so I guess we can't complain too much. The rule is still dumb, but at least it wasn't completely out of our hands.

CJ just knew he was starting game one, and he wanted to hit. He had it planned all along.

Good point. Hoping to hear

LHUCKS pick as album of the year. Perfect.

 

[Bogart]

Harrison instead of holland g3That might drive down beer sales.

That keeps Holland from starting a game 7, and that is a good thing. Game 7 would probably look like Harrison/Feldman/Ogando/Holland getting you through seven anyway you can and Adams/Feliz after that.

 

[ctdub]

Great W for the Rangers last night - Lewis and Garcia both pitched great...and while I am glad the Rangers pulled it out, it was painful watching Hamilton again trying to hit while he is 50% at best. Would really have been a better lineup to bench him for a game in colder temperatures and give him an extra day of rest - hopefully the day off today will help enough - they ARE going to need him back in the upcoming games

The guys on mlb radio were talking about sitting Hamilton last night to give him 2 days off. My thought was he just had 3 days off between LCS and WS and that didn't help, why would 2 days help now? I understand the warmer weather argument, but this is too big of a game to plug him with Endy Chavez. His presence in the lineup at least got Motte out of the game for Young and Beltre to face Lynn.....

 

[Berserker]

So, do they at least DH Hamilton? With Lohse starting, that would probably put Endy in CF and leave Moreland on the bench.

This?

Kinsler 2b

Andrus SS

Hamilton DH

Young 1B

Beltre 3B

Cruz RF

Napoli C

Murphy LF

Chavez CF

 

[culdeus]

Rangers -180 game 3.

That is huge.

 

[culdeus]

what just happened?

 

[Disco Stu]

Derek Holland starting a must win game. Yay!

Hopefully the history of ridiculous run support for Holland continues. And who knows... we are overdue to see "Good Holland".