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***OFFICIAL***The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion thread (1 Viewer)
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WampusCat43
Footballguy
The Icewind Dale series should also play, and was very good as well.
Drifter
Footballguy
We’ve thrown around the idea before but I’ve been giving it some more thought recently. How about a FBG game swap?
To eliminate endless bartering, I was thinking as a basic unit of currency to tie different games to different values we could use the following system:
1. A game has the “value” of its site review rating at gamespot.com (not user review). Games from 2006 would be worth 100% of that value. Games from 2005 would be worth 90% and games from 2002-2004 would be worth 75%. Games older than 2002 would be worth 50% - For instance Half Life 2 has a rating of 9.2 and is a 2004 game so has a modified value of 7.125 (9.2 * 75%) Oblivion would have its full value of 9.3.
2. Basically, if you want to participate you’d list what games you have that you are willing to trade like this:
a. The Warriors (PS2) 8.6/ 2005 = 7.74
b. Fallout (PC) 8.7 */1997 = 4.35
Of course, you can still refuse or accept an offer but this system would help at setting a baseline value. How far you want to deviate from that value is up to you.
Other ruels:
No $ involved.
If you have been shipped a game but not received one in return you’d post in the game swap thread and the welcher (just for you MC) would be blacklisted from participating until they upheld their part of the deal.
Shipping with tracking #s would be highly recommended. If something shows as delivered you’re off the hook. If you sent via mail with no tracking # and it was never received, that’s your problem.
What do people think? Is it worth it? Is this a good system? I figure you’ll get more value for your games then you would at the 2nd hand game store down the street.
To eliminate endless bartering, I was thinking as a basic unit of currency to tie different games to different values we could use the following system:
1. A game has the “value” of its site review rating at gamespot.com (not user review). Games from 2006 would be worth 100% of that value. Games from 2005 would be worth 90% and games from 2002-2004 would be worth 75%. Games older than 2002 would be worth 50% - For instance Half Life 2 has a rating of 9.2 and is a 2004 game so has a modified value of 7.125 (9.2 * 75%) Oblivion would have its full value of 9.3.
2. Basically, if you want to participate you’d list what games you have that you are willing to trade like this:
a. The Warriors (PS2) 8.6/ 2005 = 7.74
b. Fallout (PC) 8.7 */1997 = 4.35
Of course, you can still refuse or accept an offer but this system would help at setting a baseline value. How far you want to deviate from that value is up to you.
Other ruels:
No $ involved.
If you have been shipped a game but not received one in return you’d post in the game swap thread and the welcher (just for you MC) would be blacklisted from participating until they upheld their part of the deal.
Shipping with tracking #s would be highly recommended. If something shows as delivered you’re off the hook. If you sent via mail with no tracking # and it was never received, that’s your problem.
What do people think? Is it worth it? Is this a good system? I figure you’ll get more value for your games then you would at the 2nd hand game store down the street.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I had a laptop what only had 32 MB of video memory on the video card and I could play NWN with no problem. That is a pretty sweet game. A little too linear, but I enjoyed it. If you have more than 32 MB, Dungeon Siege 1 might work. The graphics blew but it was a really fun game. Of course Morrowind should work as well...
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
I4 must be the geekiest fantasy league in the world.I'll sell you my video card GB, that will let me buy a new one. 9600 Pro will run all but the very latest games fine. I'm running Oblivion at the lowest settings but it's working fine.On that note, can you reccomend a fairly cheap video card to play some of the newer games? Budget's tight for that kind of stuff, so stress the 'fairly cheap' part....
Dr. Pepper
Footballguy
i just wasted 40 bones on comic books instead of upgrading my computer to run the cool games...
but i would like to get in on the swap...
but i would like to get in on the swap...
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
I'd be game for the game swap as well. The missus does not like me buying games, play them for a week or two, then let them collect dust. Really like this idea.
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Just to toss my in my .02. Decided to go for the quick satisifaction and bought the game for the 360. I think MadCow mentioned 40-50 hours? 
I've burned 15+ and still haven't taken the amulet back.
Unbelivable graphics and gameplay. I love the sidequests and the freedom the game gives you.
Quick note: So I running around with a iron sword and basic armor. I learned early on that you don't kill guards
Anyway, walked out of town and hear arrows flying. I run up the path and see two guards shooting at each other. One dies, the other is almost dead and he starts shooting in the bushes. Next thing I see is a deer come running out of the bushes and the guard chasing after it. I guess the game AI caused the guard to attack it as any other monster, during which he must have shot the other guard. Extremely funny (maybe you had to be there) especially when I noticed I could pick the nice shiny Legion armor and steel bow 
Is the older Morrowind game this good?
I've burned 15+ and still haven't taken the amulet back.Unbelivable graphics and gameplay. I love the sidequests and the freedom the game gives you.
Quick note: So I running around with a iron sword and basic armor. I learned early on that you don't kill guards
Anyway, walked out of town and hear arrows flying. I run up the path and see two guards shooting at each other. One dies, the other is almost dead and he starts shooting in the bushes. Next thing I see is a deer come running out of the bushes and the guard chasing after it. I guess the game AI caused the guard to attack it as any other monster, during which he must have shot the other guard. Extremely funny (maybe you had to be there) especially when I noticed I could pick the nice shiny Legion armor and steel bow Is the older Morrowind game this good?
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
NO, imo, Morrowind is not this good. I have it, but could not get into it like I am Oblivion.
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WampusCat43
Footballguy
Count me in on the game swap as well. I've got Rome and Pirates available right now. 'Course, once I get this Oblivion up and running, it's going to be a moot point 
Foosball God
Foos
I became Arena Grand Champion last night. 
I also got visited by the Dark Brotherhood and murdered someone for them. Now I'm just waiting to be contacted again.
I also got visited by the Dark Brotherhood and murdered someone for them. Now I'm just waiting to be contacted again.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Let me ask you this - do you automatically get a bounty on your head if you kill someone, or is it just if you are seen?I became Arena Grand Champion last night.
I also got visited by the Dark Brotherhood and murdered someone for them. Now I'm just waiting to be contacted again.
Foosball God
Foos
I did not get a bounty on my head for that kill. There was an Imperial Ranger outside the place where I did it and I went up and talked to him afterwards.Just for ####s and Giggles I saved and tried attacking him to see how tough he would be. When I killed him I had a fairly large bounty on my head, so I don't know if it was just this quest that allowed me to kill someone without a bounty or if killing civilians is different than killing Imperial Liegon soldiers.Let me ask you this - do you automatically get a bounty on your head if you kill someone, or is it just if you are seen?I became Arena Grand Champion last night.
I also got visited by the Dark Brotherhood and murdered someone for them. Now I'm just waiting to be contacted again.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Sucks about the RAM, but if I'm held back a little, that's fine. If the game runs at least fairly smoothly, I want to buy it.My video card is a radeon x300, btw. What other info do you need?
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Did you get a bounty on your head for the action that got you into the DB?I did not get a bounty on my head for that kill. There was an Imperial Ranger outside the place where I did it and I went up and talked to him afterwards.Just for ####s and Giggles I saved and tried attacking him to see how tough he would be. When I killed him I had a fairly large bounty on my head, so I don't know if it was just this quest that allowed me to kill someone without a bounty or if killing civilians is different than killing Imperial Liegon soldiers.Let me ask you this - do you automatically get a bounty on your head if you kill someone, or is it just if you are seen?I became Arena Grand Champion last night.
I also got visited by the Dark Brotherhood and murdered someone for them. Now I'm just waiting to be contacted again.
Ignoramus
Footballguy
I've seen that same thing happen... then I walked over to the surviving guard and when I clicked on him he asks "Problem?"I laughed.Quick note: So I running around with a iron sword and basic armor. I learned early on that you don't kill guards
I finally made it into the Arcane University but now I have to make my own staff. Most of the Mage Guild quests are pretty simple, but there are a couple of tough ones and one that's quite fun. If anyone needs help, let me know.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
It's been really frustrating, because I keep wanting to buy it when I see it...but I just can't bring myself to if it's not going to work well.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
I can upgrade a laptop?I can spend up to about 500 if necessary.
Foosball God
Foos
Did you get a bounty on your head for the action that got you into the DB?I did not get a bounty on my head for that kill. There was an Imperial Ranger outside the place where I did it and I went up and talked to him afterwards.Just for ####s and Giggles I saved and tried attacking him to see how tough he would be. When I killed him I had a fairly large bounty on my head, so I don't know if it was just this quest that allowed me to kill someone without a bounty or if killing civilians is different than killing Imperial Liegon soldiers.Let me ask you this - do you automatically get a bounty on your head if you kill someone, or is it just if you are seen?I became Arena Grand Champion last night.
I also got visited by the Dark Brotherhood and murdered someone for them. Now I'm just waiting to be contacted again.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Really. So if it is unwitnessed (the act that gets you visited by the DB), then no bounty. Hmmm . . .Did you get a bounty on your head for the action that got you into the DB?I did not get a bounty on my head for that kill. There was an Imperial Ranger outside the place where I did it and I went up and talked to him afterwards.Just for ####s and Giggles I saved and tried attacking him to see how tough he would be. When I killed him I had a fairly large bounty on my head, so I don't know if it was just this quest that allowed me to kill someone without a bounty or if killing civilians is different than killing Imperial Liegon soldiers.Let me ask you this - do you automatically get a bounty on your head if you kill someone, or is it just if you are seen?I became Arena Grand Champion last night.
I also got visited by the Dark Brotherhood and murdered someone for them. Now I'm just waiting to be contacted again.
diesel7982
Footballguy
Same thing happened with me...they kept talking smack, so I waited til a couple of guards were walking by, then took a stroll onto the ship. Was able to just sit back and laugh.Anyone know if the pirates at the waterfront are part of any quests? I, uh, had a little run in with them and they are no longer able to be a part of my world.
It seems to be fairly simple to get invited to the DB. When you kill someone you'll get a message about a dark force taking notice. Next time you rest in town you should get a nightly vistor.
Whether a kill gives you a bounty seems to mainly depend on if it's seen. Also if you take more than a hit to kill someone and they can yell for help it seems to give you a bounty as well.
Saved the game, went to kill some guy named Dorian to see if the gold 'bug' was in the xbox version as well and as long as I killed him with one hit I was fine. If if it took me 2 hits I always got a bounty (and the guards entered the house).
Also remember that self defense doesn't count. So if you can provoke people through taunting or other means you're ok. (Ex. You pickpocket someone, they attack and you kill them. The only bounty is the smaller fee for pickpocketing). Jut make sure you're not carrying any stolen loot.
Whether a kill gives you a bounty seems to mainly depend on if it's seen. Also if you take more than a hit to kill someone and they can yell for help it seems to give you a bounty as well.
Saved the game, went to kill some guy named Dorian to see if the gold 'bug' was in the xbox version as well and as long as I killed him with one hit I was fine. If if it took me 2 hits I always got a bounty (and the guards entered the house).
Also remember that self defense doesn't count. So if you can provoke people through taunting or other means you're ok. (Ex. You pickpocket someone, they attack and you kill them. The only bounty is the smaller fee for pickpocketing). Jut make sure you're not carrying any stolen loot.
Foosball God
Foos
They gave me a little dagger to do the deed with. Poor ******* was sleeping when I knifed him in the back.
Just a quick note, I loved Morrowind! I got in to it much more than Oblivion. That is likely only because it came first. But there are enough differences that playing both is well worth it. The big difference is, in Morrowind, encounters are pretty much pre-built. i.e. Unlike in Oblivion, if you stumble in to a cave with some bad-### monsters when you are low level, you WILL die. However, once you uber upgrade and go there, it will be a snap. In other words, a level 12 cave will always be a level 12 cave. A level 15 NPC encounter will always be a level 15 encounter. So, if you try them to soon, you will get waxed. But you can become almost god-like in that game and just destroy everything in your path. I was level 20+ before I even bothered with the main quest. Made it a bit simple.
diesel7982
Footballguy
Does the competition in the Arena improve as you level up?
Im the Grand Champion at level 4, and I just wonder if they play as well as if you went there, say, at level 10.
Im the Grand Champion at level 4, and I just wonder if they play as well as if you went there, say, at level 10.
Foosball God
Foos
I didn't see a difference when I went from lvl 1 to lvl 5. Overall it was relatively easy.
Foosball God
Foos
I was up until 2:30 this morning playing this black hole. I'm so tired right now.
Meat
Footballguy
It's definately addicting, I'm trying to become a Master in the Fighter's Guild before I try anything else, and just doing that alone I'm about 8+ hours in, and so far haven't had a bored moment. I'm kinda pissed that i'm a tank and I made Marcantilism & Speechcraft 2 of my major skills. I thought Mercantilism would really help me in repairing armor/buying Uber Items, but really hasn't come to pass.
The speechcraft stuff is really a great way to levl up fast though, so easy.
Red Herring
Footballguy
If you are referring to the ones at the imperial city, then yeah, at least the captain is (he was my first contract for the dark brotherhoodAnyone know if the pirates at the waterfront are part of any quests? I, uh, had a little run in with them and they are no longer able to be a part of my world.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
Please expound on the skill set you chose. Was it merely a race issue with the type of character you wanted or did you choose the wrong set of skills too?Well.. after playing for a while, I figured out that I picked all the wrong skills and attribute stuff. Going to make another character. I made Thor the sneaky arrow shooting Nord.
