***OFFICIAL***The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion thread (2 Viewers)

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Also, this was touched on several pages ago, but I never saw anything that made any sense to me. Can someone explain manual lockpicking to me like I am an ADD goldfish? I have the persuasion wheel thing down and this seems way less comlicated than that, but I never ever have manually picked even a "very easy" lock. I do fine with the automatic attempt (I think I am like a level 15 or 17 security).

hit up to flip the "tumbler" up ... it will "stick" in the up position for longer on some "hits", that is what you want -- press A and it will lock that one in place, same thing for the next... if its not up at that exact moment you press A, the lockpick breaks... look for patterns in when it stays up for longerOr just work on the open lock spells I find anything higher than average is almost too much of a pain to bother

I was completely missing that "A" button part to move to the next chamber/tumbler/whatever its called. I was expecting some sort of reaction just by "tweaking" the first one and I figured I was not even getting step one of it correct. Thanks, I'll try this.

 

[Red Herring]

I was completely missing that "A" button part to move to the next chamber/tumbler/whatever its called. I was expecting some sort of reaction just by "tweaking" the first one and I figured I was not even getting step one of it correct.

Thanks, I'll try this.

NP ... I nearly broke my controller trying to figure it out ... understand completely

 

[fasteddie_21]

About the getting stuck thing, this has happened to me a few times and I'm a thief/assassain so my acrobatics/agility is high. What I do is "quicksave", load and boom, I can get out.

That has worked for me in the past.

GL

-fe

 

[Red Herring]

About the getting stuck thing, this has happened to me a few times and I'm a thief/assassain so my acrobatics/agility is high. What I do is "quicksave", load and boom, I can get out.

That has worked for me in the past.

GL

-fe

 

[fasteddie_21]

OK, here's the dealio with persuasion.  I have gotten pretty good at it, but it requires a little luck.

There are 4 pies.  Each causes one of 1 reactions with a person.  Figure you can rank them 1 to 4 based on how well they like that pie section.  1 being hate, 2 dislike, 3 OK and 4 awesome.

You HAVE to choose all 4 in each minigame.  The goal is to minimize the amount you will with 1 and 2 and maximize that of 3 and 4.  Now keep in mind that the wheel rotates each time you choose, as well.  I don't know if this is random, or not - never looked a whole lot, but regardless, it changes.  Keeping that in mind, you want to take the lowest hate(1) and the highest awesome (4) as soon as you can.  The 2 middle options don't have nearly as much sway as the 2 extremes, so consider those the flex options and take them with whatever you get.  If you start the game with the lowest on hate, I always opt for that one, then proceed.  If not and the highest one is on love (4), then choose that one.  It is a game of give and take and luck to a large degree.  Once you understand that, it is very easy.

Finally got it figured out. I'm now officially a suave MOFO.

Now if someone could only explain lockpicking to me...

Ok, here is a quick guide for lock picking:Each time you "lift" a tumbler (order does not matter, 1-5), it rises at a different speed, which is random. The slower the tumbler "lifts" the longer it will "stick" in the raised position. When it sticks at the top, click the left mouse button. Sometimes, it will take 8-10 "lifts" of a tumbler to get it to rise slowly. PATIENCE IS THE KEY!!! Sometimes it will "lift" slowly on the first try, but just watch the rhythm of it. If it raises slowly and you wait too long or just miss it and it falls again, keep doing it and it will "lift" slowly again at some point. PATIENCE PATIENCE PATIENCE.

Hope that helps.

-fe

Bump for those having trouble with lockpicking-fe

 

[fasteddie_21]

For those that do not know, you do NOT need to D/L FRAPS for fps.

While in game, hit the "~" key (next to the number 1 key, but just hit it, no shift):

then type: tdt

then enter

then "~" again and it will show you your fps in the upper right corner.

Also, you can save your games this was as well and name them as you wish:

hit the "~" button, then type: "save ****" (w/o the quotes) and then after it says saved game or save sucessful or whatnot, hit the "~" button again and continue on.

Lastly, you can not rename saves while in game. After though, you can go into C:/my Docs/games/oblivion/saves and rename them to whatever you want. You can do this regardless if it's "Save 31" or if you named the save in game (ie "Sideways Cave")

You're welcome.

And thanks Mad Cow for the original location...can you tell me what tweaks you've done and your fps now? Please?

-fe

Another bump for helpful hints...-fe

 

[Assani Fisher]

I just got my XBox and bought this game. Probably won't play it for a few days, as I'm quite caught up in Fight Night right now, but I look forward to joining in on the fun in this thread shortly.

 

[fasteddie_21]

I just got my XBox and bought this game. Probably won't play it for a few days, as I'm quite caught up in Fight Night right now, but I look forward to joining in on the fun in this thread shortly.

Good to have you along. Say goodbye to life for awhile FWIW, I find it a nice diversion from playin cards -fe

 

[Kirby]

OK, here's the dealio with persuasion.  I have gotten pretty good at it, but it requires a little luck.

There are 4 pies.  Each causes one of 1 reactions with a person.  Figure you can rank them 1 to 4 based on how well they like that pie section.  1 being hate, 2 dislike, 3 OK and 4 awesome.

You HAVE to choose all 4 in each minigame.  The goal is to minimize the amount you will with 1 and 2 and maximize that of 3 and 4.  Now keep in mind that the wheel rotates each time you choose, as well.  I don't know if this is random, or not - never looked a whole lot, but regardless, it changes.  Keeping that in mind, you want to take the lowest hate(1) and the highest awesome (4) as soon as you can.  The 2 middle options don't have nearly as much sway as the 2 extremes, so consider those the flex options and take them with whatever you get.  If you start the game with the lowest on hate, I always opt for that one, then proceed.  If not and the highest one is on love (4), then choose that one.  It is a game of give and take and luck to a large degree.  Once you understand that, it is very easy.

Finally got it figured out. I'm now officially a suave MOFO.

Now if someone could only explain lockpicking to me...

Ok, here is a quick guide for lock picking:Each time you "lift" a tumbler (order does not matter, 1-5), it rises at a different speed, which is random. The slower the tumbler "lifts" the longer it will "stick" in the raised position. When it sticks at the top, click the left mouse button. Sometimes, it will take 8-10 "lifts" of a tumbler to get it to rise slowly. PATIENCE IS THE KEY!!! Sometimes it will "lift" slowly on the first try, but just watch the rhythm of it. If it raises slowly and you wait too long or just miss it and it falls again, keep doing it and it will "lift" slowly again at some point. PATIENCE PATIENCE PATIENCE.

Hope that helps.

-fe

Bump for those having trouble with lockpicking-fe

Go practice on the chest at the arena. It's a very hard one, and I think it had 500 in it. Oh.. and here is my $2000 house.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

thanks fasteddie...this thread is getting long and I must have overlooked that.

I just bought the same house last night Kirby

 

[WampusCat43]

I have to be the dumbest human being on the planet.

I bought the game, then spent over $500 on memory and a graphics card to play it.  Tried to install the game first, only to have the system (apparently) lock up.  Mouse wouldn't move, nothing appeared to be happening on the drive.  Panicked and restarted the PC.  Now all I get is "Catastrophic failure" when I attempt to load it.

There's freakin hundreds of files that have been modified since I started this mess, so I have no idea how to restore back to where I started.  Repository files, config files, prefetch files 

I need a bigger 

   

Did it work OK with the new memory and vid card BEFORE the install?

Haven't installed the hardware yet. My beer-fueled logic being, "If the game won't install, why open the box on the hardware?" So, if I can't find some way to restore back to where I was prior to this fiasco, I'm going to take the graphics card back (at least) and abandon the whole project.Non-

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I have to be the dumbest human being on the planet.

I bought the game, then spent over $500 on memory and a graphics card to play it. Tried to install the game first, only to have the system (apparently) lock up. Mouse wouldn't move, nothing appeared to be happening on the drive. Panicked and restarted the PC. Now all I get is "Catastrophic failure" when I attempt to load it.

There's freakin hundreds of files that have been modified since I started this mess, so I have no idea how to restore back to where I started. Repository files, config files, prefetch files

I need a bigger

Did it work OK with the new memory and vid card BEFORE the install?

Haven't installed the hardware yet. My beer-fueled logic being, "If the game won't install, why open the box on the hardware?" So, if I can't find some way to restore back to where I was prior to this fiasco, I'm going to take the graphics card back (at least) and abandon the whole project.Non-

You, sir, are a disgrace to this thread.

 

[Zalf]

Also, this was touched on several pages ago, but I never saw anything that made any sense to me. Can someone explain manual lockpicking to me like I am an ADD goldfish? I have the persuasion wheel thing down and this seems way less comlicated than that, but I never ever have manually picked even a "very easy" lock. I do fine with the automatic attempt (I think I am like a level 15 or 17 security).

Another big help in lockpicking is sound. The tumbler makes a different sound when its going to stick. A fast fall is a "TINK". A slow fall is "tinkTINK". Can make it alot easier if you can key in on the sound. I usually play while watching tv and have a headphone on one ear. My wife hates it when I get to a locked chest, because I usually pause the Tivo so I can hear the lock sounds better.

 

[Mad Cow]

I have to be the dumbest human being on the planet.

I bought the game, then spent over $500 on memory and a graphics card to play it. Tried to install the game first, only to have the system (apparently) lock up. Mouse wouldn't move, nothing appeared to be happening on the drive. Panicked and restarted the PC. Now all I get is "Catastrophic failure" when I attempt to load it.

There's freakin hundreds of files that have been modified since I started this mess, so I have no idea how to restore back to where I started. Repository files, config files, prefetch files

I need a bigger

Did it work OK with the new memory and vid card BEFORE the install?

Haven't installed the hardware yet. My beer-fueled logic being, "If the game won't install, why open the box on the hardware?" So, if I can't find some way to restore back to where I was prior to this fiasco, I'm going to take the graphics card back (at least) and abandon the whole project.Non-

You, sir, are a disgrace to this thread.

You do realize you can return it to Best Buy opened, right?

Do a system restore to before the install. I would uninstall the bugger, put in the new hardware and RAM, make sure you have all of the updated drivers, and then install. Probably just a corrupt install, but hard to know. Is it the game that says Catastrophic Failure, or Windows? If it is the game, you need to update RAM and video card, more than likely.

 

[WampusCat43]

It's the game install that's crashing. I haven't put the hardware in yet. There's nothing to uninstall - when it crashes it clears everything in the Start Menu out, but I can tell by doing a File Search that a lot of files have been modified.

I'll check the Control Panel, maybe there's still some junk running around in there. System Restore would be fine with me - I haven't put anything new on that PC in quite some time. I just need to figure out the steps to do it.

Anyway, I'll try installing the hardware first, then go after the software. I just found it hard to believe the installer would break because of the hardware. I think it's the fact that I rebooted in mid-load. :longnightahead:

 

[Mad Cow]

It's the game install that's crashing. I haven't put the hardware in yet. There's nothing to uninstall - when it crashes it clears everything in the Start Menu out, but I can tell by doing a File Search that a lot of files have been modified.

I'll check the Control Panel, maybe there's still some junk running around in there. System Restore would be fine with me - I haven't put anything new on that PC in quite some time. I just need to figure out the steps to do it.

Anyway, I'll try installing the hardware first, then go after the software. I just found it hard to believe the installer would break because of the hardware. I think it's the fact that I rebooted in mid-load. :longnightahead:

Um..

 

[BroadwayG]

I think it's the fact that I rebooted in mid-load.

I say I must admire your cajones in admitting this. GL with the system restore.

 

[Mad Cow]

So I am perusing Gamespot this AM looking at all of the releases coming up for the next year, and there ain't much. Of everything, I see MAYBE 6 titles I will possibly get:

BF2: Armored Fury booster pack - LOCK TO GET (April 28)

Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter - Pretty close to a lock. Supposed to be the first game out to use all of the new physics cards/HAVOK engine crap/ATI reprogramming its pixels for physics. Already great game for the 360. (May 7)

Timeshift - Lots of hoopla, but don't know much about it. (May 7)

Neverwinter Nights 2 - For the love of Pete, I will own this day 1. (August 27)

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic - FPS fantasy like Oblivion but with the Source engine. Supposed to be very cool with its physics and such. This is a toss-up. (Spetember 24)

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - This one will either be cool or absolutely blow. I will definitely wait for reviews, but if it is great, I will bite (Quarter 1, 2007)

What does this mean to me? It means I get lots of up close and personal time for now with Oblivion and BF2.

 

[Foosball God]

WampusCat =

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

So I am perusing Gamespot this AM looking at all of the releases coming up for the next year, and there ain't much. Of everything, I see MAYBE 6 titles I will possibly get:

BF2: Armored Fury booster pack - LOCK TO GET (April 28)

Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter - Pretty close to a lock. Supposed to be the first game out to use all of the new physics cards/HAVOK engine crap/ATI reprogramming its pixels for physics. Already great game for the 360. (May 7)

Timeshift - Lots of hoopla, but don't know much about it. (May 7)

Neverwinter Nights 2 - For the love of Pete, I will own this day 1. (August 27)

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic - FPS fantasy like Oblivion but with the Source engine. Supposed to be very cool with its physics and such. This is a toss-up. (Spetember 24)

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - This one will either be cool or absolutely blow. I will definitely wait for reviews, but if it is great, I will bite (Quarter 1, 2007)

What does this mean to me? It means I get lots of up close and personal time for now with Oblivion and BF2.

have you heard of a definate date for BF2 on the 360? All my coworkers are going bat#### for it on the PC right now...

 

[TheFanatic]

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic - FPS fantasy like Oblivion but with the Source engine. Supposed to be very cool with its physics and such. This is a toss-up. (Spetember 24)

I played Might and Magic 7 or 8. Don't rememeber which. Awesome game. Is this the same franchise?

 

[WampusCat43]

I think it's the fact that I rebooted in mid-load.

I say I must admire your cajones in admitting this. GL with the system restore.

Didn't have a better idea - the system was stone-cold locked up.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I played Might and Magic 7 or 8. Don't rememeber which. Awesome game. Is this the same franchise?

Yes. They hope to recover the old past glory after the last few debacles in that RPG series. I think Computer Gaming World has a big article on it this month.

 

[Mad Cow]

I think it's the fact that I rebooted in mid-load.

I say I must admire your cajones in admitting this. GL with the system restore.

Didn't have a better idea - the system was stone-cold locked up.

Go in and delete the folder it was being installed on, as well as go into My Documents/My Games and delete the Oblivion folder. Reinstall your game after updating hardware and I bet you are OK.

 

[BroadwayG]

Anyone know if you can find out what type of RAM a computer uses if you're not there to look at the exact specs of the system. I can dial in remotely, but I don't know where to look in the specs.

I want to stop buy the store on my way home and pick up another gig but I don't want to get the wrong kind.

 

[Mad Cow]

Anyone know if you can find out what type of RAM a computer uses if you're not there to look at the exact specs of the system. I can dial in remotely, but I don't know where to look in the specs.

I want to stop buy the store on my way home and pick up another gig but I don't want to get the wrong kind.

What are the computer specs/motherboard? You can download and install the CPU-Z that I linked earlier for the mobo, and it will also tell a lot about RAM.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Probably why .. my char is a hybrid breton stealthy/mage (assassin too ) Technically a healer (kinda regretting that)

Why do you kinda regret that?

 

[BroadwayG]

Anyone know if you can find out what type of RAM a computer uses if you're not there to look at the exact specs of the system.  I can dial in remotely, but I don't know where to look in the specs.

I want to stop buy the store on my way home and pick up another gig but I don't want to get the wrong kind.

What are the computer specs/motherboard? You can download and install the CPU-Z that I linked earlier for the mobo, and it will also tell a lot about RAM.

That's a neat little tool there.Found exactly what I needed.

 

[BroadwayG]

Anyone else really into Alchemy? Maybe I just like picking flowers and poisoning swords on my own, but I am digging this so far. The best is you don't need to buy any empty beakers or be at an alchemy table to do it. I rarely ride my horse anywhere as I'm always collecting herbs. Not to mention the easy money and you can steal ingredients, make potions, then sell them at regular merchants.

 

[Red Herring]

Anyone else really into Alchemy? Maybe I just like picking flowers and poisoning swords on my own, but I am digging this so far. The best is you don't need to buy any empty beakers or be at an alchemy table to do it. I rarely ride my horse anywhere as I'm always collecting herbs. Not to mention the easy money and you can steal ingredients, make potions, then sell them at regular merchants.

Into it big time! Just got the 3rd ingredient on the list level of it (whichever it is... i'm atm) amd have apprentice tools now -- heavy freakin things for a mage to be running around with though. Haven't gotten to poising my weapons, though, despite being an assassin

 

[Foosball God]

Anyone else really into Alchemy? Maybe I just like picking flowers and poisoning swords on my own, but I am digging this so far. The best is you don't need to buy any empty beakers or be at an alchemy table to do it. I rarely ride my horse anywhere as I'm always collecting herbs. Not to mention the easy money and you can steal ingredients, make potions, then sell them at regular merchants.

How do you use a poison. I've been too afraid to click on one for fear that I'd drink it.

 

[BroadwayG]

Anyone else really into Alchemy?  Maybe I just like picking flowers and poisoning swords on my own, but I am digging this so far.  The best is you don't need to buy any empty beakers or be at an alchemy table to do it.  I rarely ride my horse anywhere as I'm always collecting herbs.  Not to mention the easy money and you can steal ingredients, make potions, then sell them at regular merchants.

How do you use a poison. I've been too afraid to click on one for fear that I'd drink it.

Click on the potion, it will ask if you want to poison {currently equipped weapon}. Say yes, and that's it, a little green teardrop will show up by the weapon icon on the main screen. Just don't eat rat meat by itself.

 

[Mad Cow]

Anyone else really into Alchemy? Maybe I just like picking flowers and poisoning swords on my own, but I am digging this so far. The best is you don't need to buy any empty beakers or be at an alchemy table to do it. I rarely ride my horse anywhere as I'm always collecting herbs. Not to mention the easy money and you can steal ingredients, make potions, then sell them at regular merchants.

Big time. Love making poison.

 

[fasteddie_21]

:rasieshand: Another big into alchemy. I also have just unlocked the 3rd on the list of 4 things that each ingredient uses. BUT, I'm still using novice equipment...where does one go about finding/buying (read: stealing)/getting the intermediate calcinator, etc?

Also, am I the only one here who bought the strategy guide? I find myself only using it when I have a question as to whether a dungeon is supposed to be for a quest or not, when I stumble upon a new one, while running from place to place (and picking herbs ). I have found it pretty invaluable...it's over 360 pages though :wow:

-fe

 

[Mad Cow]

:rasieshand: Another big into alchemy. I also have just unlocked the 3rd on the list of 4 things that each ingredient uses. BUT, I'm still using novice equipment...where does one go about finding/buying (read: stealing)/getting the intermediate calcinator, etc?

Also, am I the only one here who bought the strategy guide? I find myself only using it when I have a question as to whether a dungeon is supposed to be for a quest or not, when I stumble upon a new one, while running from place to place (and picking herbs ). I have found it pretty invaluable...it's over 360 pages though :wow:

-fe

I have seen the upgrade sets at stores in the Imperial City. I tend to not buy the strategy guides, since it is too easy to look. I prefer just taking it from the hip, so to speak.

 

[Assani Fisher]

I am not popping this game into my XBox for the very first time....anything I should know before I begin?

 

[Assani Fisher]

"An update must be applied to your console if you want to play this game. Do you want to apply the update now?"

 

[Dr. Pepper]

I am not popping this game into my XBox for the very first time....anything I should know before I begin?

you mean "now"..

 

[Assani Fisher]

went with a dark elf

 

[Assani Fisher]

I am not popping this game into my XBox for the very first time....anything I should know before I begin?

you mean "now"..

yes.

 

[Ninersfan]

My 360 did the same thing. Let it load the update from the CD and you're fine.

 

[Ninersfan]

Oh and once you get into the game you can forget about that silly card playing thing you have going on.....

 

[Assani Fisher]

I'm not understanding how I'm supposed to pick locks, but I just did 'auto attempt' and it worked out fine

 

[Red Herring]

I'm not understanding how I'm supposed to pick locks, but I just did 'auto attempt' and it worked out fine

As long as you have sufficient skill (stealth, IIRC) you can auto try --- we had a nice clinic on lockpicking page 14, long and short: press up and if it sticks up press A before it starts to drop. there are clues to when to do it.

 

[Assani Fisher]

I stole the goblin's stuff and am sneaking by him now, but I really want to just go bash him in the head...I'm guessing I'm not strong enough yet though.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Whoever had the lockpicking sound tip, thanks, works great!

Quick question for all. May have been addressed but this thread is to damn long now to look. Where can you safely store items? I found a few that are named, so probably quest items. Odd ball type things. They are to heavy for my wussy assasin to carry around since strength is not a main upgrade for me (I tend to upgrade speed, endurance and agility). Where can I safely leave these things? I have done mage guild quests in Chorrol and Skingrad. I also have a free room in some town where I made them visible again. Are these good places? Or do I need to go back and drop 2 grand on a house? If that's the case, who offered the house? I had the offer but forgot from whom.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Go back to page 14...I gave an idiots guide to lockpicking

Oh and as far as the Dark Elf goes, it depends on what/how you plan on playing the game. Great for destruction magic and such. For thiefs/assassains (using bows), it seems that the Wood Elves are best for this due to the +10 Marksman skill upfront.

-fe

 

[fasteddie_21]

Whoever had the lockpicking sound tip, thanks, works great!

Quick question for all. May have been addressed but this thread is to damn long now to look. Where can you safely store items? I found a few that are named, so probably quest items. Odd ball type things. They are to heavy for my wussy assasin to carry around since strength is not a main upgrade for me (I tend to upgrade speed, endurance and agility). Where can I safely leave these things? I have done mage guild quests in Chorrol and Skingrad. I also have a free room in some town where I made them visible again. Are these good places? Or do I need to go back and drop 2 grand on a house? If that's the case, who offered the house? I had the offer but forgot from whom.

Not sure who sells them (I think usually the "mayor" of the towns) but yes, to safely store items, you have to buy a house.-fe

 

[TxBuckeye]

Go back to page 14...I gave an idiots guide to lockpicking

Oh and as far as the Dark Elf goes, it depends on what/how you plan on playing the game. Great for destruction magic and such. For thiefs/assassains (using bows), it seems that the Wood Elves are best for this due to the +10 Marksman skill upfront.

My dark elf doesn't seem to have a problem with a bow. Don't know that I've ever missed.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Not sure who sells them (I think usually the "mayor" of the towns) but yes, to safely store items, you have to buy a house.

Doh. Put that down as one thing I preferred Morrowind for. Buy a house just to store stuff. Need the Imperial City person who made the offer if anyone has it...