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That would be fine if that was what they are going for. We could just sit back, have a
and enjoy.Instead they were at least attempting to be a drama about a serial killer and his Followers and it has become a Soap Opera, and a bad one at that, where you have to suspend any once of belief to enjoy it and just go along for the ride.
I think you're'snogger said:No, I understand the "Why" she got into the car.. It was the "How" that was.. The guys were in their car and looked to be about to speed away, when out of the blue Claire comes running up behind them and jumps in the car.
for something to 
about. They weren't all 
, they were all 
waiting for her. You think Roderick would have gone back to Joe yet again 
Claire? They had just 
Ryan's friend. Why hightail it out of there at that point? If Ryan comes out, great, they get to 
. If Claire comes out, even better, they get to 
.Plus, if I recall correctly, once Ryan came towards the car, that's when they actually started it and 
I think you're'snogger said:No, I understand the "Why" she got into the car.. It was the "How" that was
PERFECT for this show!!
Watching the first episode or two and the last few are like two completely different shows. I remember my wife saying she wouldn't watch the show without me after the first episode. When Maggie Grace got killed and we found out about the gay guys who were planted by Joe, it was a really good show. It then got silly, as in US Marshall standing right in front of a door he knows the bad guys will shoot into, of course not wearing a vest like the bad guys. It went from actually being a thriller that was legitimately scary to being something you laugh at watching Claire again hop into a car with psycho serial killers who seem to have the best hackers/equipment in the world.I just long for the girl who wrote all over her body and killed herself and Maggie Grace getting kidnapped. It didn't last long, but man, that show had promise and that show is not what we got.I am still watching the mindless entertainment, but I think so many complaints stem from how good the show could have been with a little bit of effort and talent.
Fair, and I get that. Maybe if this was on Showtime I'd be expecting that, but my expectations for a show like this on Fox are pretty low.Speaking of Showtime, Claire has a nice role on Californication.
Pretty much. I think the early buzz was "this is as close to a Dexter as you'll get on network TV". If that's true, it's pretty sad.
Yeah that's the point. They sold it as something you would see on Showtime. They didn't deliver.Fair, and I get that. Maybe if this was on Showtime I'd be expecting that, but my expectations for a show like this on Fox are pretty low.Speaking of Showtime, Claire has a nice role on Californication.
I just long for the girl who wrote all over her body and killed herself and Maggie Grace getting kidnapped. It didn't last long, but man, that show had promise and that show is not what we got.
I am still watching the mindless entertainment, but I think so many complaints stem from how good the show could have been with a little bit of effort and talent.
Ok. I got into it later than most (but watched the old episodes on demand) so I don't know any of the background.
Have you seen the writing on Dexter?
The first few seasons Dexter was pretty darn good. And even now it beats this.
I agree but lets not pretend the writing on Dexter is top notch and that there arent loopholes galore
I thought the first 2-3 seasons were pretty tight on Dexter really. But after that the issues started to pile up. Off subject a bit but I think more shows should run one to two seasons max. Have a defined story arc and a defined number of shows to wrap it in. Like a long movie almost. It seems to me a lot of shows get in trouble when the try to stretch it out further than they should.
Season 4 with John Lithgow is my favorite of the series.
You're right I should have included 4 that was a very good season.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Molly... *sigh* can we have someone, anyone who isn't a plant please?
He was the gay neighbor of the woman Ryan stopped Joe from killing, not the neighbor of Claire.
oh yeah, my mistake. They were neighbors of Joe's last victim that got him busted by Ryan.
Or better yet, they could, you know, actually review the tapes from the prison to see who visited Joe. But that would be too easy.
Yeah, that is one hell of a plot hole, isn't it....
The other thing that always confused me about it is wouldn't those conversations be monitored as well?
Yeah, well, they would have except that the guy responsible for maintaining the video is a follower and destroyed all the footage. We just haven't seen that yet.
yeah, probably.
Hey, that was my comment a couple pages ago. Then again, my comment was part of my "Not Following" spoof about the quirky, charming yet oh so stupid FBI Special Cult/Serial Killer Task force.
Yeah, you're right. But your comment was funnier and sarcastic. I think I used mine in a different way, referring to the way a Follower can make a sound in one room, and then suddenly be behind the FBI as they go to take a look. Maybe it's not an invisibility cloack at all and they are using a matter transporter?
I like that idea. Pretty sure Joe and his two followers used that to magically appear in the house where Bacon, Egg and Cheese were interrogating the militia guys and of course for Joe to have time to get around Cheese, zip tie him in a chair and lock the impenetrable cage. Seeing as how Bacon followed Joe and Hair Gel out the same way they came in, there has to be a matter transporter to get around Bacon and surprise Cheese. Well, that or Bacon decided to go around a different way.zed2283 said:
