***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[Psychopav]

I just finally saw the last episode and skipped the last 12 pages. Didn't feel like catching up. All I can say is, I feel this has Woodbury all over it. I like stuff about zombies, not the stuff about group versus group. I hated the Woodbury thing, and this is going to be just like it I fear. A whole season stuck in one location. Bleck.

Learn how to spell "blech", pal.

 

[Papa Georgio]

I prefer the human interaction over mindless zombie kills. I think other humans would be far and away the biggest threat at this point of the zombie apocalypse. I know this sounds funny but the only zombie stuff that would be interesting is more character development. Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.

This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.

 

[flapgreen]

I'll rank the seasons like this:

1- great intro, shouldve been more CDC stuff IMO

2- Sophia episode, met Herschel & Maggie!, Shane vs Rick, Dale finally killed

4- End of season 4a was epic, kids killed, terminus, Abraham's group

3- Governor suckitude, horrible finale, prison Zzzzzz, Lori death!

1

4b great indivudual eps, with a few duds (Glen in the tunnel), weakish overall arc

2b Dale Dies, Rick kills shane

3a Woodbury introduced, michonne introduced, Governor introduced

3b Woodbury showndown fizzles...pointless andrea drama and death

4a stupid virus plot, Gov returns,= and showdown, Carol starts to turn badass

2a Rick loses Sofia to 1 walker...glen is used as zombie bait..Dale is at his most annoying, despite the slowdown, character development is just not there...

I agree with about 4a, terrible outside of the showdown.

2a had Shane killing Otis/going crazy, the group trying to figure out Hershel and find a way to stay on the farm and Sphia in the barn. I'd put it ahead of all of season 3 and 4a.

Same here

 

[Corporation]

I'll rank the seasons like this:

1- great intro, shouldve been more CDC stuff IMO

2- Sophia episode, met Herschel & Maggie!, Shane vs Rick, Dale finally killed

4- End of season 4a was epic, kids killed, terminus, Abraham's group

3- Governor suckitude, horrible finale, prison Zzzzzz, Lori death!

1

4b great indivudual eps, with a few duds (Glen in the tunnel), weakish overall arc

2b Dale Dies, Rick kills shane

3a Woodbury introduced, michonne introduced, Governor introduced

3b Woodbury showndown fizzles...pointless andrea drama and death

4a stupid virus plot, Gov returns,= and showdown, Carol starts to turn badass

2a Rick loses Sofia to 1 walker...glen is used as zombie bait..Dale is at his most annoying, despite the slowdown, character development is just not there...

I agree with about 4a, terrible outside of the showdown.

2a had Shane killing Otis/going crazy, the group trying to figure out Hershel and find a way to stay on the farm and Sphia in the barn. I'd put it ahead of all of season 3 and 4a.

Same here

1 - the original and best

2b - Rick vs Shane

2a - Sophia and the Barn

4b - The sisters episode and the return of Ricktator

3a - Woodbury introduction

4a - Farmer Rick and the virus

3b - Really disappointing and annoying

 

[(HULK)]

Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.

This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.

The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.

 

[Riversco]

Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.

This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.

The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.

He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.

 

[peaces]

Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.

This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.

The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.

It's the same old theme

 

[comfortably numb]

Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.

This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.

The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.

He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.

Yep.

This is where the show has lost some flavor for me.

After 4 seasons were still in the "find a place to set up camp, settle in and survive day/day mode"

Would like to see a means to an end somewhat....A long term plan the show can lead us to an end. Whether someone say let's find an island and put our roots down and start a new world. You can get a couple more seasons of them trekking to the coast or whatever with some more drama along the way or a means to an end with a cure. Perhaps this is mullet dude angle.

The comics throws this off for me because I don't know what their plan for the show is in relation to the comics.

The show is in total cash cow mode now so it wouldn't shock me if they want to ride this for 4 more seasons and just continue repeating similar storylines,

I would be fine with it IF they were pressing towards an end but they are like Moses in the dessert with the Jews for 40 years. Lot's of roaming around going nowhere and a lot of btiching and complaining.

 

[Rove!]

I think people are forgetting that, outside of a few scenes, how bad 2a was. Take the Sofia/barn scene out and it's pretty freakin' turrible. I can't overlook the 7:58 of schlock for the two minutes of shock value.....

 

[(HULK)]

I think people are forgetting that, outside of a few scenes, how bad 2a was. Take the Sofia/barn scene out and it's pretty freakin' turrible. I can't overlook the 7:58 of schlock for the two minutes of shock value.....

The Sofia barn scene and the medical supply run where Shane kneecapped Otis were the ONLY watchable parts of 2a. The rest of it was the worst the show has been at any point.

 

[jamny]

I think people are forgetting that, outside of a few scenes, how bad 2a was. Take the Sofia/barn scene out and it's pretty freakin' turrible. I can't overlook the 7:58 of schlock for the two minutes of shock value.....

I actually almost gave up on the show during it. Horrible.

 

[packersfan]

The show is about surviving. There is no "end game." The ultimate goal is to find a place of safe haven and settle down. Whether that's even possible is part of the show's fabric. For me, I don't need an end game for the show to be entertaining. It's working for me the way they're doing it. That doesn't meet it always hits the high notes but when it doesn't it's not because there's no end game in the picture. Not for me anyway.

 

[packersfan]

Season 2 remains by far the best of the series so far in my opinion. The alleged "slowness" of the first half of the season ultimately worked in my opinion because it set up all the chaos that ultimately occurred. If they had rushed through those episodes I don't think the big moments that happened (starting with Sofia walking out of the barn) would've had anywhere near the impact they did.

 

[stbugs]

Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.

This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.

The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.

He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.

Yep.

This is where the show has lost some flavor for me.

After 4 seasons were still in the "find a place to set up camp, settle in and survive day/day mode"

Would like to see a means to an end somewhat....A long term plan the show can lead us to an end. Whether someone say let's find an island and put our roots down and start a new world. You can get a couple more seasons of them trekking to the coast or whatever with some more drama along the way or a means to an end with a cure. Perhaps this is mullet dude angle.

The comics throws this off for me because I don't know what their plan for the show is in relation to the comics.

The show is in total cash cow mode now so it wouldn't shock me if they want to ride this for 4 more seasons and just continue repeating similar storylines,

I would be fine with it IF they were pressing towards an end but they are like Moses in the dessert with the Jews for 40 years. Lot's of roaming around going nowhere and a lot of btiching and complaining.

I guess I don't get this at all. Unless they are the last ones alive, it is always going to be the same thing. Either you want something someone else has or they want what you have. Since people turn when they die, zombies are there for good. Even if you go start a new world, all it takes is one cold (remember, we are back in the dark ages in terms of medical care) and you are right back where you started.

They have been to secure places, the farm and the prison. They didn't choose to leave, they left because of a herd and because of someone else wanting what they had.

I guess it's the same theme over and over, but honestly, that is what I would expect. It would be ridiculously boring show if it was Woodbury and they never had to face an aggressor and/or leave Woodbury. I like the show as is. I don't mind them running into potential cannibals, potential bad guys (gov, Joe, anyone else), potential good guys who want to start over, CDC/scientists trying to find a cure, zombie herds that wipe out even the best intentions and of course the Carolina Panthers/Bobcats cheerleader crews who survived at a cheerleading camp stocked with guns and years of survival suppliers and haven't seen a man in 18 months. The last one might be my apocalypse scenario, so rearrange as necessary.

 

[comfortably numb]

What I mean is the show IS going to end.

Now how they get the viewers to that end with the current cast we are given is what I am referring to.

After 4 seasons the only end I know is, try to survive day to day. Everyone seems to be content with just finding a place and hanging. Perhaps the prison was their end. Start a new life here and it got over run.
Woodbury obviously would be a bore but that was their end. Start a new world and new way of life for themselves.

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

I guess with this show they can just end it at any point with this cast dying off somehow.

Maybe I am just bored and looking for a direction other than just moving from point A to A.

 

[packersfan]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

 

[Thunderlips]

What I mean is the show IS going to end.

Now how they get the viewers to that end with the current cast we are given is what I am referring to.

After 4 seasons the only end I know is, try to survive day to day. Everyone seems to be content with just finding a place and hanging. Perhaps the prison was their end. Start a new life here and it got over run.

Woodbury obviously would be a bore but that was their end. Start a new world and new way of life for themselves.

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

I guess with this show they can just end it at any point with this cast dying off somehow.

Maybe I am just bored and looking for a direction other than just moving from point A to A.

The story becomes less about surviving zombies and more about surviving the people that are left....or at least coming to some sort of mutual existence. The direction of the show moves either towards other apocalyptical stories like The Stand or Jericho; where a rule of order is desired or it moves towards something like The Road....where it's just a continual struggle to survive and there's not going to be a comfy settlement over the horizon.

While I think The Road was a helluva story.....I don't think that you can do that and have people maintain interest.

That's why they should have adopted the motto "Save Your Bullets For the Living" as a tagline.

 

[comfortably numb]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

Exactly, and that's where the show has lost some for me.

It's just day to day with no end in sight a few good spots here and there. I could miss a few episodes or even a season and it wouldn't matter much to the story.

Maybe I am wrong on this.

Thinking back to some good shows I like.

Six feet under and The Wire.

There was no 100%.... this is how we are going to end the show half way through the series.

It was just following the characters and which way they went on the show to an eventual end.

 

[packersfan]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

Exactly, and that's where the show has lost some for me.

It's just day to day with no end in sight a few good spots here and there. I could miss a few episodes or even a season and it wouldn't matter much to the story.

Perhaps but you'd also miss the character evolution. I think one of the show's strengths is how the primary characters have evolved in interesting ways. And to me, that's what the show is about - these characters and how they are adapting, evolving and surviving. I'm very interested, for example, to see where the story goes now with Bad ### Rick Grimes back in the leadership role. That's the kind of stuff that keeps me tuning in and still enjoying the show so much.

 

[TheIronSheik]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

Exactly, and that's where the show has lost some for me.

It's just day to day with no end in sight a few good spots here and there. I could miss a few episodes or even a season and it wouldn't matter much to the story.

Maybe I am wrong on this.

Thinking back to some good shows I like.

Six feet under and The Wire.

There was no 100%.... this is how we are going to end the show half way through the series.

It was just following the characters and which way they went on the show to an eventual end.

The comic book starts off with the writer stating that his idea for the story was that there was never truly an end game. It wasn't about zombies as much as it was about how people change in these terrible situations. He said he wanted people to be in for the long haul.

I'm sure the show will end sooner than later, but I don't think there's going to be a big closure to it. It will most likely end with Rick dying, or the remaining members just moving on to their next situation.

 

[comfortably numb]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

Exactly, and that's where the show has lost some for me.

It's just day to day with no end in sight a few good spots here and there. I could miss a few episodes or even a season and it wouldn't matter much to the story.

Perhaps but you'd also miss the character evolution. I think one of the show's strengths is how the primary characters have evolved in interesting ways. And to me, that's what the show is about - these characters and how they are adapting, evolving and surviving. I'm very interested, for example, to see where the story goes now with Bad ### Rick Grimes back in the leadership role. That's the kind of stuff that keeps me tuning in and still enjoying the show so much.

You're right and I guess where I am different is the level of character development is just no longer as interesting to me and not a strength of the show (imo) and probably why I am starting to look for an end.

 

[comfortably numb]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

Exactly, and that's where the show has lost some for me.

It's just day to day with no end in sight a few good spots here and there. I could miss a few episodes or even a season and it wouldn't matter much to the story.

Maybe I am wrong on this.

Thinking back to some good shows I like.

Six feet under and The Wire.

There was no 100%.... this is how we are going to end the show half way through the series.

It was just following the characters and which way they went on the show to an eventual end.

The comic book starts off with the writer stating that his idea for the story was that there was never truly an end game. It wasn't about zombies as much as it was about how people change in these terrible situations. He said he wanted people to be in for the long haul.

I'm sure the show will end sooner than later, but I don't think there's going to be a big closure to it. It will most likely end with Rick dying, or the remaining members just moving on to their next situation.

I am not sure the end is sooner rather than later.

I think they can do at least 4 more seasons with this crew minus a few subtractions and a few additions.

I do agree, the end doesn't have to be a huge climatic end. Could just easily be them dying off and the viewer left with the end of the world being overrun with zombies until the final person.

 

[shadyridr]

I think people are forgetting that, outside of a few scenes, how bad 2a was. Take the Sofia/barn scene out and it's pretty freakin' turrible. I can't overlook the 7:58 of schlock for the two minutes of shock value.....

The Sofia barn scene and the medical supply run where Shane kneecapped Otis were the ONLY watchable parts of 2a. The rest of it was the worst the show has been at any point.

yeah but watching it a second time I learned to appreciate 2a much more cuz we knew the characters. Season 3 had no rewatchability

 

[TheIronSheik]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

Exactly, and that's where the show has lost some for me.

It's just day to day with no end in sight a few good spots here and there. I could miss a few episodes or even a season and it wouldn't matter much to the story.

Maybe I am wrong on this.

Thinking back to some good shows I like.

Six feet under and The Wire.

There was no 100%.... this is how we are going to end the show half way through the series.

It was just following the characters and which way they went on the show to an eventual end.

The comic book starts off with the writer stating that his idea for the story was that there was never truly an end game. It wasn't about zombies as much as it was about how people change in these terrible situations. He said he wanted people to be in for the long haul.

I'm sure the show will end sooner than later, but I don't think there's going to be a big closure to it. It will most likely end with Rick dying, or the remaining members just moving on to their next situation.

I am not sure the end is sooner rather than later.

I think they can do at least 4 more seasons with this crew minus a few subtractions and a few additions.

I do agree, the end doesn't have to be a huge climatic end. Could just easily be them dying off and the viewer left with the end of the world being overrun with zombies until the final person.

My bad. I didn't mean it as if the show was ending soon. I agree it could go for 4+ seasons still. I just meant that unlike the comic, there is an end coming.

 

[Thunderlips]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

Exactly, and that's where the show has lost some for me.

It's just day to day with no end in sight a few good spots here and there. I could miss a few episodes or even a season and it wouldn't matter much to the story.

Maybe I am wrong on this.

Thinking back to some good shows I like.

Six feet under and The Wire.

There was no 100%.... this is how we are going to end the show half way through the series.

It was just following the characters and which way they went on the show to an eventual end.

The comic book starts off with the writer stating that his idea for the story was that there was never truly an end game. It wasn't about zombies as much as it was about how people change in these terrible situations. He said he wanted people to be in for the long haul.

I'm sure the show will end sooner than later, but I don't think there's going to be a big closure to it. It will most likely end with Rick dying, or the remaining members just moving on to their next situation.

I think they can get away with being a bit more meandering in regards to a definitive ending (or character goal) if they did away with the idea that there are safe characters on the show. Losing Rick would be huge, not only in regards to the story (as the characters have to deal with the ramifications of losing their leader)....but I think killing him gives a bit more "street cred" in the realism department.

IMO, the show would be much more attractive if, in three seasons, there's only one or two of the current cast members still around and there's a whole new cast. it would take some balls....but imagine a whole season with only Michonne surviving or Carl or Beth......

 

[(HULK)]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

I'm 99.9999% sure endgame for this show is the death of Rick.

 

[packersfan]

With most decent shows you have an idea of and end result.

That's one of the things I love about the show - there is no end game. There is no "How will they get off the island?" or "How will they solve the big mystery?" It's all about surviving day to day. That's one of the many things that makes the show work for me.

Now there will come a time when the show will end and we'll see at that time if they choose to create an end game to reach. But I don't think we're anywhere near that time and given the show's popularity I don't think AMC is thinking about that happening anytime soon either.

I'm 99.9999% sure endgame for this show is the death of Rick.

I can buy that. I've said before that I think the day the show ends may be the day Andrew Lincoln decides he doesn't want to do it anymore.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

 

[TheIronSheik]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

 

[playin4beer]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

I'd like some answers like "How did it happen? Is it the entire World that's affected? Is there any form of Government left? and finally, What kind of mower is Lori using to keep all the lawns in shape?"

 

[johnjohn]

this show has been trash since they got rid of Frank Darabont, if you think otherwise, I don't respect you

 

[Parrothead]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

I'd like some answers like "How did it happen? Is it the entire World that's affected? Is there any form of Government left? and finally, What kind of mower is Lori using to keep all the lawns in shape?"

whys isn't the gas going bad? where do they poop? what about hygene products such as TP and tampons? natural bodily functions don't know its a zombie apocalapyse..

 

[comfortably numb]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

Great shows lose their ability to remain great by just prolonging a show for the sake of prolonging it.

People really liked Dexter early on, by season 8 the few people who stuck around ended up hating it.

Breaking Bad was great for almost everyone who watched it. If they dragged out 3 more seasons with some crazy far fetched storylines, the overall love of the show would be dragged down.

 

[packersfan]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

I'd like some answers like "How did it happen? Is it the entire World that's affected? Is there any form of Government left? and finally, What kind of mower is Lori using to keep all the lawns in shape?"

Need to save this one for the series finale.

 

[stbugs]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Sorry Joe, I disagree completely. This isn't a 2 hour movie like WWZ. We don't have to have a happy ending. If the CDC is gone and they already told us no one is actually working on a cure and they didn't find one then how does it end well? Also, everyone that dies will turn, so unless everyone has a battery operated heart monitor that is sync'd to central command, there is always danger.

That said, how is Terminus like Woodbury? Just because they are two "secure" locations, Woodbury came after our crew and Terminus captured our crew going into Terminus. Other than being settlements of people, they couldn't be more different.

Maybe it is just me, but I like the constant struggle. Season 1 made sense, they got overrun and tried to find safety at the CDC. Well, CDC is set to explode so on to place 2. Season 2, the herd took out the farm, again, gotta go somewhere else. Season 3, after a long time, they finally found somewhere safe in the prison and aside from the governor and psycho Lizzie, they would still be living there with little threat, especially after curing the outbreak. So, the prison got destroyed and they got scattered. Season 4, on the run and trying to find a new place and we are now at Terminus. Whether or not I have issues with some scenes and details, this really doesn't seem like a stretch, i.e. like they are doing the same thing every season. Yes, flight to safety and what happens when you meet people are going to be big themes, but how could it be anything else?

 

[comfortably numb]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

I'd like some answers like "How did it happen? Is it the entire World that's affected? Is there any form of Government left? and finally, What kind of mower is Lori using to keep all the lawns in shape?"

Need to save this one for the series finale.

I am hoping for a lawn mower reveal and you see handle go down towards the motor, then you see the 1st letter......and it's a T..............screen goes BLACK!!!

You are forever left with not knowing if it was a Troy-Bilt or Toro mower.

 

[packersfan]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

Great shows lose their ability to remain great by just prolonging a show for the sake of prolonging it.

I agree but I don't get the feeling this show is in that zone right now. I thought the season finale this season was quite good in fact as were many of the second half of the season episodes. I will say that sometimes you can't see a decline coming in advance or maybe I should I say I can't. With Dexter, for example, that show lost its way after what many consider to be its finest season (Season 4). I also thought the first four seasons of 24, for example, were very good and was not expecting the decline which I think occurred in Season 5 and continued until the end.

For me, The Walking Dead is still a very strong show and the immediate future looks very bright. We'll see how I feel once Season 5 debuts in October.

ETA - I also disagree that without an end game the show has become boring. I think some of the criticisms of this show I see in this thread are from people who want this show to be something else than it clearly is. That's fine and all but four seasons in I think it's pretty well established what the show is about. I'm not sure a radical alteration is going to happen.

 

[comfortably numb]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

Great shows lose their ability to remain great by just prolonging a show for the sake of prolonging it.

I agree but I don't get the feeling this show is in that zone right now. I thought the season finale this season was quite good in fact as were many of the second half of the season episodes. I will say that sometimes you can't see a decline coming in advance or maybe I should I say I can't. With Dexter, for example, that show lost its way after what many consider to be its finest season (Season 4). I also thought the first four seasons of 24, for example, were very good and was not expecting the decline which I think occurred in Season 5 and continued until the end.

For me, The Walking Dead is still a very strong show and the immediate future looks very bright. We'll see how I feel once Season 5 debuts in October.

I will disagree, for me I think we are in that zone now...again just me. MY BIL has literally watched every ep about 6 times, literally...if not more. Some people just can't get enough.

I will say, this show has a fairly unique ability.

They can kill off everyone tomorrow and start with a new cast in Maine, Australia or France and it would still have a strong appeal.

We have joked about the CSI/Law and Order angle but they can have a Walking Dead Miami or Walking Dead NY both airing at the same time, and while it would lose its luster i would think it would have good ratings.

 

[(HULK)]

I don't think they'll be at Terminus for very long.

 

[packersfan]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

Great shows lose their ability to remain great by just prolonging a show for the sake of prolonging it.

I agree but I don't get the feeling this show is in that zone right now. I thought the season finale this season was quite good in fact as were many of the second half of the season episodes. I will say that sometimes you can't see a decline coming in advance or maybe I should I say I can't. With Dexter, for example, that show lost its way after what many consider to be its finest season (Season 4). I also thought the first four seasons of 24, for example, were very good and was not expecting the decline which I think occurred in Season 5 and continued until the end.

For me, The Walking Dead is still a very strong show and the immediate future looks very bright. We'll see how I feel once Season 5 debuts in October.

I will disagree, for me I think we are in that zone now...again just me. MY BIL has literally watched every ep about 6 times, literally...if not more. Some people just can't get enough.

I will say, this show has a fairly unique ability.

They can kill off everyone tomorrow and start with a new cast in Maine, Australia or France and it would still have a strong appeal.

We have joked about the CSI/Law and Order angle but they can have a Walking Dead Miami or Walking Dead NY both airing at the same time, and while it would lose its luster i would think it would have good ratings.

They have the spin-off show coming. I have little interest in that but I'll probably check it out mainly due to curiosity.

 

[comfortably numb]

I don't think they'll be at Terminus for very long.

I get that feeling as well.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

That's a fair question. I think it's because most of us relate to a story in an arc. We want a beginning, a problem, a plan to solve the problem and a resolution. There are of course exceptions but I think most people are wired to be drawn to that. For me, that's where I am with this.

It's interesting to think about the mechanics of story there. In reality, Rocky and Star Wars are really the same "story". Meet the hero, see the problem, find a mentor, devise a plan, see it out. Doesn't really matter if meeting the mentor is Mick or Yoda, same idea.

Now some shows can go forever like Seinfeld but that never really felt like a story. It was more like Jimmy Fallon as you checked in each time to see what funny stuff might happen.

A story like Walking Dead feels more like a traditional story to me. And I don't think the "middle" can go on indefinitely and keep the attention from folks.

J

 

[comfortably numb]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

Great shows lose their ability to remain great by just prolonging a show for the sake of prolonging it.

I agree but I don't get the feeling this show is in that zone right now. I thought the season finale this season was quite good in fact as were many of the second half of the season episodes. I will say that sometimes you can't see a decline coming in advance or maybe I should I say I can't. With Dexter, for example, that show lost its way after what many consider to be its finest season (Season 4). I also thought the first four seasons of 24, for example, were very good and was not expecting the decline which I think occurred in Season 5 and continued until the end.

For me, The Walking Dead is still a very strong show and the immediate future looks very bright. We'll see how I feel once Season 5 debuts in October.

I will disagree, for me I think we are in that zone now...again just me. MY BIL has literally watched every ep about 6 times, literally...if not more. Some people just can't get enough.

I will say, this show has a fairly unique ability.

They can kill off everyone tomorrow and start with a new cast in Maine, Australia or France and it would still have a strong appeal.

We have joked about the CSI/Law and Order angle but they can have a Walking Dead Miami or Walking Dead NY both airing at the same time, and while it would lose its luster i would think it would have good ratings.

They have the spin-off show coming. I have little interest in that but I'll probably check it out mainly due to curiosity.

Ah didn't realize that.

With the enormous ratings the show gets if they get even 1/3 of the viewers consistently it would probably be AMC's 2nd or 3rd highest rated show....behind Low Winter Sun of course.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I don't think they'll be at Terminus for very long.

I get that feeling as well.

Interesting. Why do you get that feeling? And how do you think they'll get out?

J

 

[TheIronSheik]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why do you want to see a great show end? I never understood that. It made sense for Lost, because people wanted answers. But who needs answers about a zombie apocalypse?

That's a fair question. I think it's because most of us relate to a story in an arc. We want a beginning, a problem, a plan to solve the problem and a resolution. There are of course exceptions but I think most people are wired to be drawn to that. For me, that's where I am with this.

It's interesting to think about the mechanics of story there. In reality, Rocky and Star Wars are really the same "story". Meet the hero, see the problem, find a mentor, devise a plan, see it out. Doesn't really matter if meeting the mentor is Mick or Yoda, same idea.

Now some shows can go forever like Seinfeld but that never really felt like a story. It was more like Jimmy Fallon as you checked in each time to see what funny stuff might happen.

A story like Walking Dead feels more like a traditional story to me. And I don't think the "middle" can go on indefinitely and keep the attention from folks.

J

I get what you're saying, but I think it's different for this show. We get that story arc. We get it each season. By knowing that there is no happy ending coming, we don't need to worry about it. Instead, we can just watch each season like it's its own story arc.

I think TWD is a great show right now. And I see no reason to want to end it. I really feel like TWD is very much a show of its own. No other like it. At no point am I wondering how this will all end. All I'm wondering is how will the characters change to each challenge they encounter.

 

[packersfan]

I actually The Walking Dead is set up in such a way that it could go on forever. It won't. No TV series does. But a story about surviving isn't one set up for an end game. It's set up to tell the story today, tomorrow, the next day, next week, next month etc. It could go on indefinitely with a different group of characters rotating in and out as the series goes along. Isn't that pretty much what's going on in Kirkman's comics? When did those first start, 10 years ago? How many of the original cast are still in the comics now?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I actually The Walking Dead is set up in such a way that it could go on forever. It won't. No TV series does.

You can't support this. How do we know that some TV show on right now might go on forever?

 

[comfortably numb]

I don't think they'll be at Terminus for very long.

I get that feeling as well.

Interesting. Why do you get that feeling? And how do you think they'll get out?

J

Now that we know it is not a sanctuary for them but rather a prison I would think escaping is going to be the main focus. Can't think they will put us through a season of them locked up.

 

[shuke]

I'm with you guys in that with no end game, it's become boring. Terminus is setting up as Woodbury II. It's starting to feel more like a soap opera to me as it does feel the show can go on as long as the advertising dollars last. I think the poster who said they felt like they could miss several episodes and it wouldn't really matter hits a really important point. I almost feel like it would be advantageous to say they're going to end it after another season or two. But that likely doesn't make financial sense. We'll see I guess.

J

Why would that be advantageous? I think what makes post-apocalyptic fiction such a draw is the unpredictability of the future.