***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[snogger]

Has anybody explained why they had to actually go down in the flooded basement instead of trying to dispatch as many walkers from up above as possible?

I assume they didn't want the noise from gunshots to attract more walkers?

Although that didn't seem to bother the Terminus peeps who squeezed off about 300 rounds just to herd dinner (including future shish kaBob) into a train car.

This is what I assumed.. They figured they could use the shelves as shields and kill off the walkers safely.. And it worked fine until Preacher boy saw his woman and went all causing the team to abandon their plan to save his worthless A##.

You didn't need to shoot them. You just needed to get them within arm's or stick's reach of a sharp point. A chopped off broom handle would do the job handily. It would have taken maybe 10 minutes. Sharpen a stick, sit on the edge of a hole and taunt the walkers into stick range. Rinse, repeat. It's so easy, even a caveman could do it. It's what they did at the fence at the prison.

And how did they get down or up? Preacher collapsed the rotted stairs. What method allowed them all to get positioned behind their defensive line of shelves before the zombies saw them?

There was a whole lot of WTF in that scene.

It's like they tried to use the game of Mousetrap to catch a mouse rather than to just use a simple mousetrap.

It was what it was.. The producers/writers wanted a scene of rotting zombies and the group in the soup to be in danger and they got it..

can you imagine the number of post if all they did was the safe thing every time??

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I prefer to think a dormant virus that turns them upon death gets "activated" by the bite. Otherwise its pretty dumb to me.

 

[cstu]

Upside of alcoholism

 

[cstu]

I know everyone hates Tyreese's character right now, but this is almost exactly what they did to Rick's character (Farmer Rick) before having him transform into a badass. Eventually he's going to come to grips with reality and realize some people need to be killed - I'm guessing after he finds out what happened to Bob and that it was his fault.

Next episode = Hammer Time

 

[Disco Stu]

I just want more antibiotic scenes

If AMC ever needs a cure for high ratings they should give you a call.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Has anybody explained why they had to actually go down in the flooded basement instead of trying to dispatch as many walkers from up above as possible?

I assume they didn't want the noise from gunshots to attract more walkers?

Although that didn't seem to bother the Terminus peeps who squeezed off about 300 rounds just to herd dinner (including future shish kaBob) into a train car.

Has anybody explained why they had to actually go down in the flooded basement instead of trying to dispatch as many walkers from up above as possible?

I assume they didn't want the noise from gunshots to attract more walkers?

Although that didn't seem to bother the Terminus peeps who squeezed off about 300 rounds just to herd dinner (including future shish kaBob) into a train car.

This is what I assumed.. They figured they could use the shelves as shields and kill off the walkers safely.. And it worked fine until Preacher boy saw his woman and went all causing the team to abandon their plan to save his worthless A##.

You didn't need to shoot them. You just needed to get them within arm's or stick's reach of a sharp point. A chopped off broom handle would do the job handily. It would have taken maybe 10 minutes. Sharpen a stick, sit on the edge of a hole and taunt the walkers into stick range. Rinse, repeat. It's so easy, even a caveman could do it. It's what they did at the fence at the prison.

And how did they get down or up? Preacher collapsed the rotted stairs. What method allowed them all to get positioned behind their defensive line of shelves before the zombies saw them?

There was a whole lot of WTF in that scene.

It's like they tried to use the game of Mousetrap to catch a mouse rather than to just use a simple mousetrap.

Exactly

 

[El Floppo]

There's a certain oddity to how the virus works.

If a venomous animal bites, you, it's so you are incapacitated in some way so as to be easily eaten or easily avoided or both.

A snake bites a mouse so it can eat it. Or it bites you so you will leave it alone.

Even the Komodo Dragon, which interestingly enough is able to kill large animals do to the bacteria in its bite, can arguably be an example of cooperation between a pathogen and it's host. Host eats and survives, thus pathogen has a home and survives.

So a zombie bites a survivor because it is motivated and reanimated by this virus to eat a human. Why? The human is already infected. But yet the virus turns the bite victim into another zombie which then won't/can't be eaten by the zombie. The zombies eat only live or dead but un-animated flesh. So then how is the virus's agenda of basic survival advanced by reanimating a corpse when it can just live benignly in a live human just the same?

I appreciated the attempt in World War Z to define a motive. So what's the game plan here?

And given how long it takes for someone to get bit, die from the bite infection, and then reanimate, compared to how much more quickly that same victim could be torn apart and eaten by the attacking zombie(s), how are there so many ambulatory zombies roaming around? What are the odds that so many people could get bit, but yet not consumed, so as to then become another zombie that can move freely and join a herd? It it takes so long to die and then reanimate, but the infection otherwise lies dormant, how did it ever spread so far? With modern communication, the U.S. should never have been overrun. It isn't like one zombie can run people down like a Cheetah. It would have been pretty easy to contain the outbreak.

keep that smart #### out of this thread. tia.

but yeah- I've often wondered about why we aren't seeing more fleshy, animated skull attached to spines rolling around. The zombies take a few bites and then get distracted... SQUIRREL... instead of chowing down on the body all the way to the skeleton? Or maybe it's like Ethiopian food for me- I want to like it, go to the restaurant, order a whole meal, take a bite and remember that I've never liked Ethiopian food.

 

[cstu]

I prefer to think a dormant virus that turns them upon death gets "activated" by the bite. Otherwise its pretty dumb to me.

Let me clear this up:

- Everyone is infected with a virus that turns them into a zombie when they die - whether they are killed or die in their sleep.

- Zombie saliva is poisonous and will kill you if you do not cut off the infected appendage.

- It's unknown why zombie saliva will kill you, but I think turning must do something to the virus in saliva that makes it poisonous.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I prefer to think a dormant virus that turns them upon death gets "activated" by the bite. Otherwise its pretty dumb to me.

Let me clear this up:

- Everyone is infected with a virus that turns them into a zombie when they die - whether they are killed or die in their sleep.

- Zombie saliva is poisonous and will kill you if you do not cut off the infected appendage.

- It's unknown why zombie saliva will kill you, but I think turning must do something to the virus in saliva that makes it poisonous.

I like this much better then your standard "old meat" infection.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I prefer to think a dormant virus that turns them upon death gets "activated" by the bite. Otherwise its pretty dumb to me.

Let me clear this up:

- Everyone is infected with a virus that turns them into a zombie when they die - whether they are killed or die in their sleep.

- Zombie saliva is poisonous and will kill you if you do not cut off the infected appendage.

- It's unknown why zombie saliva will kill you, but I think turning must do something to the virus in saliva that makes it poisonous.

-The virus also causes the majority of people to make really stupid decisions.

 

[cstu]

So then how is the virus's agenda of basic survival advanced by reanimating a corpse when it can just live benignly in a live human just the same?

That's why I think the virus (1.0) changes after a person dies. The new virus (2.0) is in the zombie's saliva and wants to find a new host to infect. Virus 1.0 has already won - everyone is infected - but Virus 2.0 still wants to reproduce so it makes the zombies want to bite.

Edit, here's what I think the virus' ultimate plan is:

Stage one - Virus 2.0 is unable to be airborne so it spread as airborne Virus 1.0 that didn't kill people initially but would turn them into zombies upon death.

Stage two - While the initial infection would turn people upon death, it still left people alive to find a cure. For this reason it needed to be able to kill people and did this by transforming into Virus 2.0 after a person dies. Virus 2.0 is now in a zombie's saliva that will kill people if they are bitten.

Ultimate goal - virus immortality in zombie hosts

 

[tommyboy]

That was gum chewer that was eating Bob's leg, right? Didn't Tyreese punch the #### out of his face in the previous episode? His face should have been all banged up. And it definitely has only been a day or two since they left Terminus cause you could still see the smoke from the blown up propane tank.

I paused it on the DVR, his whole left side of his face was swollen, eye shut.

 

[Disco Stu]

That was gum chewer that was eating Bob's leg, right? Didn't Tyreese punch the #### out of his face in the previous episode? His face should have been all banged up. And it definitely has only been a day or two since they left Terminus cause you could still see the smoke from the blown up propane tank.

I paused it on the DVR, his whole left side of his face was swollen, eye shut.

That's what I saw too, but it was a quick look. Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[Disco Stu]

Maybe already mentioned, but Gareth's line to close the episode is directly from the comic.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Maybe already mentioned, but Gareth's line to close the episode is directly from the comic.

BREAKING

 

[roarlions]

I don't think Gareth and friends cut off Bob's leg to save him in any way. He was clearly dinner. The question for me, though, is if Bob was bit does that come into play with the Termites? Maybe they all start dropping like flies and only Gareth is left which forces him to try and weasel his way into the group.

I can see that story line coming, or that Bob suddenly turns at some opportune time to keep a termite from killing one of the "safe" characters who must survive.

If they play up the tainted meat angle, I wonder how that matters since everyone is already infected? If everyone already has it, how would eating someone with it make it worse?

Zombies are walking petri dishes of bacteria. Their bites kill people because they cause a nasty bacterial infection, not because they cause a zombie infection. That's my take anyway.

Possibly. But does a "normal" bacterial infection secondary to a bite kill you in a few hours. We may want to page Dr. Bramel but my instinct is that it takes some time and you'd have traditional symptoms as the infection becomes systematic.

If you say " it isn't normal bacteria, though", that's the trap. They are already infected with the abnormal pathogen, be it virus, bacteria, etc. So for the infection to be the killer, so that THEN the zombie bug can reanimate you, it had to be the normal, everyday bacteria that kill you via infection.

To be honest, I think it's an unresolved problem created by the initial creators who decided to deviate from the traditional zombie-bite-as-transmission-vector angle. Someone came up with the novel idea of everyone being infected as a great plot twist and they got their jollies off on the irony of the living survivors already being zombies that just hadn't got ripe yet...thus being the walking dead themselves. Problem is they didn't really think it through as far as what that would really mean. But at the same time they couldn't then abandon the whole zombie-bite-infects-you scenario because think about how that detail alone drives a zombie movie plot. So they've had to try and mesh the bite angle and the universal infection angle. But they don't logically mesh.

If I already have rabies, how does getting bit by a rabid dog or me eating the flesh of a rabid dog really hurt me in terms of having rabies? So then they have to depend on these contorted explanations to reconcile what is a glaring problem with the internal logic (stressing the "internal" part) of the storyline. You can't use "willing suspension of disbelief" as a panacea. If we suspend our disbelief to accept the basic premise that a zombie virus has been unleashed causing the dead to reanimate, that doesn't mean every other aspect of life as we know it suddenly stops following the rules. The laws of physics, for example, aren't altered. And neither should the laws of biochemistry.

What if the infection-X is dormant and only activates in necrotic tissue. Then suppose active Infection-X can activate dormant Infection-X, thus zombie bites causing active infection.

After reading James' post I thought the same thing. Perhaps the bite acts as a catalyst for the dorman infection.

I was a bit loose in my language earlier that has led to a misunderstanding I think. When I talk about Bob turning, I didn't mean directly from life to zombie. I just meant in the general sense that he ends up being a zombie surprise in some convenient and contrived "gotcha" moment.

As for the time till death due to infection secondary to a bite, if it truly is just a "normal" death due to a systematic infection, why the urgency to cut off Herschel's leg? Didn't they have any way to fight off infection? They would have had to have dealt with that boogeyman back when Carl got shot. Rick's quick action seems to come from an assumption on his part that amputation rather than antibiotics is required. So Rick doesn't seem to think it's just an infection issue due to poor mouth hygiene. And Herschel doesn't either.

That's why I think the creators/writers have stepped on their ##### a little bit with this angle. Infection of wounds would be huge deal in a suddenly less sanitary world where medical infrastructure has collapsed. But it would be for any wound, not just a zombie bite. So anyone with even basic medical knowledge would think about having some antibiotics on hand. So Herschel, being a vet, should have expected that and given it some thought. So you'd think that they would have talked about during the slow days when they could gather around the campfire and talk about the important things in life...life surviving zombie bites. And you'd think that they'd have either tried to treat a bite victim with antibiotics or would be planning to do so. But we have no clue about that sort of thing and the writers could have used that type of situation to create suspense and drama but have ignored it.

They have actually dealt with the need for antibiotics in a few episodes, but I think the implication is that they aren't as readily available as you seem to think they should be. They had the episode where some of the group tried to go to a veterinary college to look for antibiotics to fight off the infection at the prison, and they had the episode where Shane and Otis went to get antibiotics after Carl had been shot. I think the conclusion in both cases was that while antibiotics are very useful, they are scarce and difficult to find/obtain. I don't think that Rick's group doesn't recognize the value of antibiotics, just that they have been too difficult to obtain. Also, I think there was some talk about the relatively short shelf-life of the antibiotics that are still around. Not sure if that is realistic or not.

 

[El Floppo]

I don't think Gareth and friends cut off Bob's leg to save him in any way. He was clearly dinner. The question for me, though, is if Bob was bit does that come into play with the Termites? Maybe they all start dropping like flies and only Gareth is left which forces him to try and weasel his way into the group.

I can see that story line coming, or that Bob suddenly turns at some opportune time to keep a termite from killing one of the "safe" characters who must survive.

If they play up the tainted meat angle, I wonder how that matters since everyone is already infected? If everyone already has it, how would eating someone with it make it worse?

Zombies are walking petri dishes of bacteria. Their bites kill people because they cause a nasty bacterial infection, not because they cause a zombie infection. That's my take anyway.

Possibly. But does a "normal" bacterial infection secondary to a bite kill you in a few hours. We may want to page Dr. Bramel but my instinct is that it takes some time and you'd have traditional symptoms as the infection becomes systematic.

If you say " it isn't normal bacteria, though", that's the trap. They are already infected with the abnormal pathogen, be it virus, bacteria, etc. So for the infection to be the killer, so that THEN the zombie bug can reanimate you, it had to be the normal, everyday bacteria that kill you via infection.

To be honest, I think it's an unresolved problem created by the initial creators who decided to deviate from the traditional zombie-bite-as-transmission-vector angle. Someone came up with the novel idea of everyone being infected as a great plot twist and they got their jollies off on the irony of the living survivors already being zombies that just hadn't got ripe yet...thus being the walking dead themselves. Problem is they didn't really think it through as far as what that would really mean. But at the same time they couldn't then abandon the whole zombie-bite-infects-you scenario because think about how that detail alone drives a zombie movie plot. So they've had to try and mesh the bite angle and the universal infection angle. But they don't logically mesh.

If I already have rabies, how does getting bit by a rabid dog or me eating the flesh of a rabid dog really hurt me in terms of having rabies? So then they have to depend on these contorted explanations to reconcile what is a glaring problem with the internal logic (stressing the "internal" part) of the storyline. You can't use "willing suspension of disbelief" as a panacea. If we suspend our disbelief to accept the basic premise that a zombie virus has been unleashed causing the dead to reanimate, that doesn't mean every other aspect of life as we know it suddenly stops following the rules. The laws of physics, for example, aren't altered. And neither should the laws of biochemistry.

What if the infection-X is dormant and only activates in necrotic tissue. Then suppose active Infection-X can activate dormant Infection-X, thus zombie bites causing active infection.

After reading James' post I thought the same thing. Perhaps the bite acts as a catalyst for the dorman infection.

I was a bit loose in my language earlier that has led to a misunderstanding I think. When I talk about Bob turning, I didn't mean directly from life to zombie. I just meant in the general sense that he ends up being a zombie surprise in some convenient and contrived "gotcha" moment.

As for the time till death due to infection secondary to a bite, if it truly is just a "normal" death due to a systematic infection, why the urgency to cut off Herschel's leg? Didn't they have any way to fight off infection? They would have had to have dealt with that boogeyman back when Carl got shot. Rick's quick action seems to come from an assumption on his part that amputation rather than antibiotics is required. So Rick doesn't seem to think it's just an infection issue due to poor mouth hygiene. And Herschel doesn't either.

That's why I think the creators/writers have stepped on their ##### a little bit with this angle. Infection of wounds would be huge deal in a suddenly less sanitary world where medical infrastructure has collapsed. But it would be for any wound, not just a zombie bite. So anyone with even basic medical knowledge would think about having some antibiotics on hand. So Herschel, being a vet, should have expected that and given it some thought. So you'd think that they would have talked about during the slow days when they could gather around the campfire and talk about the important things in life...life surviving zombie bites. And you'd think that they'd have either tried to treat a bite victim with antibiotics or would be planning to do so. But we have no clue about that sort of thing and the writers could have used that type of situation to create suspense and drama but have ignored it.

They have actually dealt with the need for antibiotics in a few episodes, but I think the implication is that they aren't as readily available as you seem to think they should be. They had the episode where some of the group tried to go to a veterinary college to look for antibiotics to fight off the infection at the prison, and they had the episode where Shane and Otis went to get antibiotics after Carl had been shot. I think the conclusion in both cases was that while antibiotics are very useful, they are scarce and difficult to find/obtain. I don't think that Rick's group doesn't recognize the value of antibiotics, just that they have been too difficult to obtain. Also, I think there was some talk about the relatively short shelf-life of the antibiotics that are still around. Not sure if that is realistic or not.

Not according to my MIL. Drugs and Food last forever.

 

[Disco Stu]

Maybe already mentioned, but Gareth's line to close the episode is directly from the comic.

BREAKING

Spoiler

You're a jerk.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

And why is there a church out in the middle of nowhere on some dirt road? Is this the 1880s?

 

[shuke]

It would be pretty funny when they head north if they hit the northern Georgia border and run into a huge military presence which has quarantined the area and find the zombie apocalypse was limited only to the small part of the world they have been wandering around in the last several months.

That actually sounds like the ending to a pretty decent zombie flick.................patent it.

There's a series of zombie books like this based in Texas. Pretty solid.

I'd ask for a title but you pretty much just spoiled the ending. Thanks.

 

[snogger]

And why is there a church out in the middle of nowhere on some dirt road? Is this the 1880s?

"Trying to hard" should be your new moniker..

We went to a wedding back in September that was 5 miles out from the city and yes, since it was land they owned that didn't have a road running to it, it was on a short ( less then a .25 of mile) dirt road..

Nicest Church I've been to in a long time..

 

[kentric]

And why is there a church out in the middle of nowhere on some dirt road? Is this the 1880s?

Its deep woods Georgia. Is there a difference?

 

[snogger]

And why is there a church out in the middle of nowhere on some dirt road? Is this the 1880s?

Its deep woods Georgia. Is there a difference?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

It would be pretty funny when they head north if they hit the northern Georgia border and run into a huge military presence which has quarantined the area and find the zombie apocalypse was limited only to the small part of the world they have been wandering around in the last several months.

That actually sounds like the ending to a pretty decent zombie flick.................patent it.

There's a series of zombie books like this based in Texas. Pretty solid.

I'd ask for a title but you pretty much just spoiled the ending. Thanks.

Actually, that's how the series starts, they quarantine off the infected (by building a wall maybe?).

Edit: Here's the first one (I think)

 

[TheIronSheik]

It would be pretty funny when they head north if they hit the northern Georgia border and run into a huge military presence which has quarantined the area and find the zombie apocalypse was limited only to the small part of the world they have been wandering around in the last several months.

That actually sounds like the ending to a pretty decent zombie flick.................patent it.

There's a series of zombie books like this based in Texas. Pretty solid.

I'd ask for a title but you pretty much just spoiled the ending. Thanks.

Actually, that's how the series starts, they quarantine off the infected (by building a wall maybe?).

SPOILER ALERT!!!

 

[JohnnyU]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem too concerned about them turning at all.

 

[James Daulton]

And why is there a church out in the middle of nowhere on some dirt road? Is this the 1880s?

Its deep woods Georgia. Is there a difference?

Wait, they're not in Washington DC?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

And why is there a church out in the middle of nowhere on some dirt road? Is this the 1880s?

Its deep woods Georgia. Is there a difference?

Wait, they're not in Washington DC?

Just got back from there.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

And why is there a church out in the middle of nowhere on some dirt road? Is this the 1880s?

Its deep woods Georgia. Is there a difference?

Good point but still...

 

[cstu]

It would be pretty funny when they head north if they hit the northern Georgia border and run into a huge military presence which has quarantined the area and find the zombie apocalypse was limited only to the small part of the world they have been wandering around in the last several months.

I could see this as a zombie satire movie like Tucker and Dale vs. Evil was for rednecks.

The characters spend 90% of the movie figuring out about zombies and becoming zombie killing badasses (I'm thinking montage) only to escape their small town after killing all the zombies to find out it was an isolated incident.

 

[Jayrok]

And why is there a church out in the middle of nowhere on some dirt road? Is this the 1880s?

Its deep woods Georgia. Is there a difference?

Good point but still...

There are still remote churches like that in GA and surrounding states.

 

[Jayrok]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem to concerned about them turning at all.

The blunt force blow to the back of the head killed them (or made them brain dead?). The slit throat only served to begin bleeding them out... I guess.

 

[Thunderlips]

Has anybody explained why they had to actually go down in the flooded basement instead of trying to dispatch as many walkers from up above as possible?

I assume they didn't want the noise from gunshots to attract more walkers?

Although that didn't seem to bother the Terminus peeps who squeezed off about 300 rounds just to herd dinner (including future shish kaBob) into a train car.

This is what I assumed.. They figured they could use the shelves as shields and kill off the walkers safely.. And it worked fine until Preacher boy saw his woman and went all causing the team to abandon their plan to save his worthless A##.

You didn't need to shoot them. You just needed to get them within arm's or stick's reach of a sharp point. A chopped off broom handle would do the job handily. It would have taken maybe 10 minutes. Sharpen a stick, sit on the edge of a hole and taunt the walkers into stick range. Rinse, repeat. It's so easy, even a caveman could do it. It's what they did at the fence at the prison.

And how did they get down or up? Preacher collapsed the rotted stairs. What method allowed them all to get positioned behind their defensive line of shelves before the zombies saw them?

There was a whole lot of WTF in that scene.

It's like they tried to use the game of Mousetrap to catch a mouse rather than to just use a simple mousetrap.

Admittedly, the show contains a helluva lot of Rube Goldberg devices.....

http://www.rubegoldberg.com/

 

[JohnnyU]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem to concerned about them turning at all.

The blunt force blow to the back of the head killed them (or made them brain dead?). The slit throat only served to begin bleeding them out... I guess.

Only stabbing and shooting in the head kills them, unless you completely destroy the brain with blunt force. As a precedence to the show, in the past they have had to completely destroy the head to kill them without stabbing or shooting the head. I think they goofed up.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Is the guy who's never left California trying to make assumptions about rural Georgia now?

 

[cstu]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem to concerned about them turning at all.

The blunt force blow to the back of the head killed them (or made them brain dead?). The slit throat only served to begin bleeding them out... I guess.

Only stabbing and shooting in the head kills them, unless you completely destroy the brain with blunt force. As a precedence to the show, in the past they have had to completely destroy the head to kill them without stabbing or shooting the head. I think they goofed up.

It looked cool, that's all that matters on the show.

However, it takes take for people to turn so the plan could have been to cut all their throats and then stab them in the back of the head.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Is the guy who's never left California trying to make assumptions about rural Georgia now?

I've actually been to rural Georgia, Champ.

 

[JohnnyU]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem to concerned about them turning at all.

The blunt force blow to the back of the head killed them (or made them brain dead?). The slit throat only served to begin bleeding them out... I guess.

Only stabbing and shooting in the head kills them, unless you completely destroy the brain with blunt force. As a precedence to the show, in the past they have had to completely destroy the head to kill them without stabbing or shooting the head. I think they goofed up.

It looked cool, that's all that matters on the show.

However, it takes take for people to turn so the plan could have been to cut all their throats and then stab them in the back of the head.

....but they didn't and there was a lot of time passed with all the fighting outside and they still hadn't turned, nor did the Terminus executioners seem to care before they got killed. Not knowing how long to turn is even more reason to do it right from the beginning IMO.

 

[Jobber]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem to concerned about them turning at all.

The blunt force blow to the back of the head killed them (or made them brain dead?). The slit throat only served to begin bleeding them out... I guess.

Only stabbing and shooting in the head kills them, unless you completely destroy the brain with blunt force. As a precedence to the show, in the past they have had to completely destroy the head to kill them without stabbing or shooting the head. I think they goofed up.

It looked cool, that's all that matters on the show.

However, it takes take for people to turn so the plan could have been to cut all their throats and then stab them in the back of the head.

Basically, these guys in the slaughterhouse normally run through 8 people in about 1 minute. Normally they're not interrupted by that youth pastor guy and an assault on their compound. It takes a while for someone to turn.

 

[Parrothead]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem to concerned about them turning at all.

The blunt force blow to the back of the head killed them (or made them brain dead?). The slit throat only served to begin bleeding them out... I guess.

Only stabbing and shooting in the head kills them, unless you completely destroy the brain with blunt force. As a precedence to the show, in the past they have had to completely destroy the head to kill them without stabbing or shooting the head. I think they goofed up.

It looked cool, that's all that matters on the show.

However, it takes take for people to turn so the plan could have been to cut all their throats and then stab them in the back of the head.

....but they didn't and there was a lot of time passed with all the fighting outside and they still hadn't turned, nor did the Terminus executioners seem to care.

the executioner that Rick killed turned, but the executed did not (as far as we know- they were tied up)

 

[shuke]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem too concerned about them turning at all.

I'm starting to wondering if some of you even watch the show (sorry, it had to be said). Turning isn't instantaneous.

 

[JohnnyU]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem to concerned about them turning at all.

The blunt force blow to the back of the head killed them (or made them brain dead?). The slit throat only served to begin bleeding them out... I guess.

Only stabbing and shooting in the head kills them, unless you completely destroy the brain with blunt force. As a precedence to the show, in the past they have had to completely destroy the head to kill them without stabbing or shooting the head. I think they goofed up.

It looked cool, that's all that matters on the show.

However, it takes take for people to turn so the plan could have been to cut all their throats and then stab them in the back of the head.

Basically, these guys in the slaughterhouse normally run through 8 people in about 1 minute. Normally they're not interrupted by that youth pastor guy and an assault on their compound. It takes a while for someone to turn.

Sometimes it doesn't, thus the reason to kill them correctly the first time.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Is the guy who's never left California trying to make assumptions about rural Georgia now?

I've actually been to rural Georgia, Champ.

Champ? I kind of dig that. It's a nice title, without being all "in-your-face" about my greatness.

 

[(HULK)]

I'd rather not explain how I came by this knowledge (lets just say its from my time in the Army), but...

The blow to the skull is not to kill, but to render them unconcious.

The throat slit is to bleed them out. They want them alive for this as the heart still beating will help evacuate the blood from the body. Remember, they're butchering them, you want to get as much of the blood out as possible.

There was probably a later step we didn't see where they piked the brain AFTER the bodies were done bleeding out.

If they were real smart, they would've suspended them upside down prior to everything as gravity helps a lot.

 

[Parrothead]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem too concerned about them turning at all.

I'm starting to wondering if some of you even watch the show (sorry, it had to be said). Turning isn't instantaneous.

true, but Shane turned pretty quick..

 

[JohnnyU]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem too concerned about them turning at all.

I'm starting to wondering if some of you even watch the show (sorry, it had to be said). Turning isn't instantaneous.

Shane turned pretty quickly Mr. Do you even watch the show

 

[kentric]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem to concerned about them turning at all.

The blunt force blow to the back of the head killed them (or made them brain dead?). The slit throat only served to begin bleeding them out... I guess.

Only stabbing and shooting in the head kills them, unless you completely destroy the brain with blunt force. As a precedence to the show, in the past they have had to completely destroy the head to kill them without stabbing or shooting the head. I think they goofed up.

It looked cool, that's all that matters on the show.

However, it takes take for people to turn so the plan could have been to cut all their throats and then stab them in the back of the head.

Basically, these guys in the slaughterhouse normally run through 8 people in about 1 minute. Normally they're not interrupted by that youth pastor guy and an assault on their compound. It takes a while for someone to turn.

That brings up an interesting point. We've been having this discussion about them eating Bob's leg and potentially getting infected, but they've been eating dead people all along. Once you die it triggers the zombie X virus. Therefore, even though the virus was already active in Bob, it doesn't seem as there'd be too much of a difference between eating a Bob leg, a Ted arm or and Alice ###.

 

[JohnnyU]

Look at the time on the last two posts Seems we were thinking the same thing at the same time.

 

[shuke]

"Didn't they already go to DC?"

"Why didn't he turn after that bite?"

"Remember when Peter Brady broke that zombie's nose with the football?"

Jesus, people.

 

[shuke]

Not sure if this has been pointed out or not, so forgive me if it has. In the premier when they had Rick, Bob, and Glenn over the trough and killed 4 others, why didn't they turn? The killers only knocked them in the head with a bat and slit their throats. They didn't seem too concerned about them turning at all.

I'm starting to wondering if some of you even watch the show (sorry, it had to be said). Turning isn't instantaneous.

Shane turned pretty quickly Mr. Do you even watch the show

Andrea's sister didn't.