***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (5 Viewers)

[tommyboy]

glenn did kill a human, he killed nicholas

 

[Loan Sharks]

Horrible episode. What were they thinking here?

Huh? Great episode. Good grief people, you think every episode has to be fist of fury. Great acting by Lenny James and John Carroll Lynch. I love it when one or two actors can carry an entire show. It was a good time for this type of episode.

Meh, no offense but many people like me want every episode to be fist of fury. That's A-Team generation. You want the backstory on B.A. Barracus? He won't fly, drinks milk and kicks ###. That's all the back story I want or need.

That is what I was talking about when Kirkman said he was going to work in some more love stories. If this were a movie theater half the people there went to see a action movie and half went to see a drama.

I don't want episodes with farming, kissing, or in this case making cheese. I want head bashing AK 47 through the wall smokers getting chopped up every episode.

That being said the episode was "ok" the Morgan backstory of his insanity was needed. Eastman death was lame and the episode dragged in many parts.

I was totally distracted by the cell in the cabin. It was hard to focus until they answered that question. Why is there a cell? Why is there a cell? Why is there a cell?

Also if Eastman was in his cabin and missed the outbreak and has not had contact with anyone, how did he know bites were fatal? His complete disregard for a open wound and eagerness to blow his own head off were puzzling.

 

[JohnnyU]

Horrible episode. What were they thinking here?

Huh? Great episode. Good grief people, you think every episode has to be fist of fury. Great acting by Lenny James and John Carroll Lynch. I love it when one or two actors can carry an entire show. It was a good time for this type of episode.

Meh, no offense but many people like me want every episode to be fist of fury. That's A-Team generation. You want the backstory on B.A. Barracus? He won't fly, drinks milk and kicks ###. That's all the back story I want or need.

That is what I was talking about when Kirkman said he was going to work in some more love stories. If this were a movie theater half the people there went to see a action movie and half went to see a drama.

I don't want episodes with farming, kissing, or in this case making cheese. I want head bashing AK 47 through the wall smokers getting chopped up every episode.

That being said the episode was "ok" the Morgan backstory of his insanity was needed. Eastman death was lame and the episode dragged in many parts.

I was totally distracted by the cell in the cabin. It was hard to focus until they answered that question. Why is there a cell? Why is there a cell? Why is there a cell?

Also if Eastman was in his cabin and missed the outbreak and has not had contact with anyone, how did he know bites were fatal? His complete disregard for a open wound and eagerness to blow his own head off were puzzling.

I disagree with most of what you said. I thought the acting by Lenny Janes and John Carroll Lynch was top notch. If there isn't decent stories in this series then it might as well be another "B" movie.

 

[cstu]

Meh, no offense but many people like me want every episode to be fist of fury. That's A-Team generation. You want the backstory on B.A. Barracus? He won't fly, drinks milk and kicks ###. That's all the back story I want or need.

No offense, but many of us have matured since we were 14.

 

[Clifford]

Good episode, but bad timing. This really could have happened anywhere in the story. Why right after Glenn is (apparently) killed and Stuff N Thangs is about to eat it as well.

 

[packersfan]

Good episode, but bad timing. This really could have happened anywhere in the story. Why right after Glenn is (apparently) killed and Stuff N Thangs is about to eat it as well.

We don't know what's gonna happen next or what Morgan's role will be in what happens next so I'm not sure we can just assume this story will work anywhere. It may have been positioned here because of what comes next. Given how Gimple carefully plots out each season I'd say that's a pretty safe bet. He wanted the episode here for a reason. We just need to see how the season unfolds to find out what that reason will be.

 

[cstu]

Besides Yodaman's stupid death, it was annoying how they suddenly went from Morgan being crazy with his house burning down to out in the woods being a bad ### killer.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Besides Yodaman's stupid death, it was annoying how they suddenly went from Morgan being crazy with his house burning down to out in the woods being a bad ### killer.

He was already a bad ### killer in his house.

 

[packersfan]

Besides Yodaman's stupid death, it was annoying how they suddenly went from Morgan being crazy with his house burning down to out in the woods being a bad ### killer.

He was already a bad ### killer in his house.

Yeah that was established in "Clear"

 

[Loan Sharks]

Meh, no offense but many people like me want every episode to be fist of fury. That's A-Team generation. You want the backstory on B.A. Barracus? He won't fly, drinks milk and kicks ###. That's all the back story I want or need.

No offense, but many of us have matured since we were 14.

You are watching a zombie show......based on a comic book......I think you are confusing it with Driving Miss Daisy.

 

[tonydead]

For quite a few seasons people were wondering what happened to Morgan? What was he doing? Then the past year people were wondering where he got his ninja skills from? The clamored for the directors to show these things.

They finally do, and no one is happy.

I'm not surprised....

I like the episode right up until the part where ninja man gets bit by a slow walker. this is a guy that has fended off anything for a year or more, is an Akido master and has defeated Morgan a couple times already. He's basically Chuck Norris and yet he lets himself get bit in the back by a walker. did not buy it.

And let's cut the points off our sticks because we don't kill people any more, except the whole world has turned to zombies where pointy sticks are actually pretty useful.

 

[tonydead]

For quite a few seasons people were wondering what happened to Morgan? What was he doing? Then the past year people were wondering where he got his ninja skills from? The clamored for the directors to show these things.

They finally do, and no one is happy.

I'm not surprised....

I like the episode right up until the part where ninja man gets bit by a slow walker. this is a guy that has fended off anything for a year or more, is an Akido master and has defeated Morgan a couple times already. He's basically Chuck Norris and yet he lets himself get bit in the back by a walker. did not buy it.

First time in a long time he felt responsible for something other than a goat.

Why not keep the goat inside when they go for a day trip?

 

[SacramentoBob]

For quite a few seasons people were wondering what happened to Morgan? What was he doing? Then the past year people were wondering where he got his ninja skills from? The clamored for the directors to show these things.

They finally do, and no one is happy.

I'm not surprised....

I like the episode right up until the part where ninja man gets bit by a slow walker. this is a guy that has fended off anything for a year or more, is an Akido master and has defeated Morgan a couple times already. He's basically Chuck Norris and yet he lets himself get bit in the back by a walker. did not buy it.

First time in a long time he felt responsible for something other than a goat.

Why not keep the goat inside when they go for a day trip?

He did. it got out.

 

[tonydead]

For quite a few seasons people were wondering what happened to Morgan? What was he doing? Then the past year people were wondering where he got his ninja skills from? The clamored for the directors to show these things.

They finally do, and no one is happy.

I'm not surprised....

I like the episode right up until the part where ninja man gets bit by a slow walker. this is a guy that has fended off anything for a year or more, is an Akido master and has defeated Morgan a couple times already. He's basically Chuck Norris and yet he lets himself get bit in the back by a walker. did not buy it.

First time in a long time he felt responsible for something other than a goat.

Why not keep the goat inside when they go for a day trip?

He did. it got out.

Pretty smart goat. It must have figured out the cell complete with concrete floor and cinder block walls ran out of budget towards the end of construction and decided to just dowel some bars into the wood sill.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

For quite a few seasons people were wondering what happened to Morgan? What was he doing? Then the past year people were wondering where he got his ninja skills from? The clamored for the directors to show these things.

They finally do, and no one is happy.

I'm not surprised....

I like the episode right up until the part where ninja man gets bit by a slow walker. this is a guy that has fended off anything for a year or more, is an Akido master and has defeated Morgan a couple times already. He's basically Chuck Norris and yet he lets himself get bit in the back by a walker. did not buy it.

First time in a long time he felt responsible for something other than a goat.

Why not keep the goat inside when they go for a day trip?

He did. it got out.

Good goat-thinking.

 

[lod01]

Morgan is a lame ###

Kill Me!...Kill Me!...Kill Me!

Gets taught aikido by anti Steven Segal

I hope he dies soon by getting eaten

Morgan is all over the place as far as his emotional state. When he first came on the scene he was thinking logically in his house. Then he loses it and holes up like a psycho. Somehow he snaps out of that. He goes on the hunt looking to kill everyone he crosses paths with. Then he's begging to be executed. Now he's selling 'how to care for your neighbor' books on the corner.

 

[lod01]

I really enjoyed this episode.

Gave another perspective of the zombie apocalypse, that humans are not meant to live alone. When they live alone they tend to go crazy.

Both actors were enjoyable to watch. I especially liked that Eastman ended up doing exactly what he intended and starved the prisoner who killed his family. Good story.

It's a shame that you know Obi-Eastman is going to die the second you meet him. I'd have liked a different ending when maybe their cabin gets overrun with a herd and they escape then go their separate ways. Or at least let him die in a blaze of glory, not some crap "I'm too stupid to hit this slow walker in the head with my staff and instead will expose my back to it for an extended period of time".

Sometimes their writing is real amateur 'Friday the 13th' like. That was one of them.

 

[tonydead]

Hey, hey hey,......Friday the 13th was solid for the first 5 movies and was always good for a laugh (unique kill) or two after that. Jason's body count destroys Michael's and we saw him beat the #### out of Freddy.

ETA: Link Except there have only been 12 Friday the 13th movies and Jason didn't do the killing in 2 of them.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Horrible episode. What were they thinking here?

Huh? Great episode. Good grief people, you think every episode has to be fist of fury. Great acting by Lenny James and John Carroll Lynch. I love it when one or two actors can carry an entire show. It was a good time for this type of episode.

Meh, no offense but many people like me want every episode to be fist of fury. That's A-Team generation. You want the backstory on B.A. Barracus? He won't fly, drinks milk and kicks ###. That's all the back story I want or need.

That is what I was talking about when Kirkman said he was going to work in some more love stories. If this were a movie theater half the people there went to see a action movie and half went to see a drama.

I don't want episodes with farming, kissing, or in this case making cheese. I want head bashing AK 47 through the wall smokers getting chopped up every episode.

That being said the episode was "ok" the Morgan backstory of his insanity was needed. Eastman death was lame and the episode dragged in many parts.

I was totally distracted by the cell in the cabin. It was hard to focus until they answered that question. Why is there a cell? Why is there a cell? Why is there a cell?

Also if Eastman was in his cabin and missed the outbreak and has not had contact with anyone, how did he know bites were fatal? His complete disregard for a open wound and eagerness to blow his own head off were puzzling.

I disagree with most of what you said. I thought the acting by Lenny Janes and John Carroll Lynch was top notch. If there isn't decent stories in this series then it might as well be another "B" movie.

I can agree with that is most cases. But Action is a often slighted genre. It is possible to have a action masterpiece where the action is the feature and not the backstory. If action is done right it can be a stand alone, if done wrong you can get a B movie. The most recent example of a great action where the action is the star I can think of is Mad Max Fury Road. No one came out of the theatre saying that they wished they had spent more time developing the relationship between Immortal bill and his harem.

I think one of the problems with WD when it meshes the drama with the action is that there are a great many characters that no one really cares about and it is very heavy handed in trying to make you care. Ask yourself this, were you really upset at the possibility that Glenn was dead? I wasn't. I think the Rick and hitting on the blond chick, Gabriel, pacifist Morgan, Maggie and Glenn marriage are not compelling dramatic story lines. Also the writers are FAR better action writers that dramatists and it feels lopsided.

I love WD but it you want more Dale speeches about morality I will respectfully disagree.

 

[Loan Sharks]

I really enjoyed this episode.

Gave another perspective of the zombie apocalypse, that humans are not meant to live alone. When they live alone they tend to go crazy.

Both actors were enjoyable to watch. I especially liked that Eastman ended up doing exactly what he intended and starved the prisoner who killed his family. Good story.

It's a shame that you know Obi-Eastman is going to die the second you meet him. I'd have liked a different ending when maybe their cabin gets overrun with a herd and they escape then go their separate ways. Or at least let him die in a blaze of glory, not some crap "I'm too stupid to hit this slow walker in the head with my staff and instead will expose my back to it for an extended period of time".

Sometimes their writing is real amateur 'Friday the 13th' like. That was one of them.

This.

This series is great at its formula and when it strays from its bread and butter it is hit or miss. Look at the flowers-Hit, Tyreese going wuss - miss.

 

[Copeman]

People tend to forget that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

 

[packersfan]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

I didn't think last night's episode was horribly written.

 

[Copeman]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

Maybe so. That's a matter of opinion, and has nothing to do with the people questioning why there isn't more "action".

 

[Loan Sharks]

To Sherwood Schwartz et al. Notes: Robert Reed There is a fundamental difference in theatre between: 1.Melodrama 2.Drama 3.Comedy 4.Farce 5.Slapstick 6.Satire & 7.Fantasy They require not only a difference in terms of construction, but also in presentation and, most explicitly, styles of acting. Their dramatis peronsae are noninterchangable. For example, Hamlet, archtypical of the dramatic character, could not be written into Midsummer Night's Dream and still retain his identity. Ophelia could not play a scene with Titania; Richard II could not be found in Twelfth Night. In other words, a character indigenous to one style of the theatre cannot function in any of the other styles. Obviously, the precept holds true for any period. Andy Hardy could not suddenly appear in Citizen Kane, or even closer in style, Andy Hardy could not appear in a Laurel and Hardy film. Andy Hardy is a "comedic" character, Laurel and Hardy are of the purest slapstick. The boundaries are rigid, and within the confines of one theatric piece the style must remain constant. Why? It is a long since proven theorem in the theatre that an audience will adjust its suspension of belief to the degree that the opening of the presentation leads them. When a curtain rises on two French maids in a farce set discussing the peccadilloes of their master, the audience is now set for an evening of theatre in a certain style, and are prepared to accept having excluded certain levels of reality. And that is the price difference in the styles of theatre, both for the actor and the writer--the degree of reality inherent. Pure drama and comedy are closest to core realism, slapstick and fantasy the farthest removed. It is also part of that theorem that one cannot change styles midstream. How often do we read damning critical reviews of, let's say, a drama in which a character has "hammed" or in stricter terms become melodramatic. How often have we criticized the "mumble and scratch" approach to Shakespearean melodrama, because ultra-realism is out of place when another style is required. And yet, any of these attacks could draw plaudits when played in the appropriate genre. Television falls under exactly the same principle. What the networks in their oversimplification call "sitcoms" actually are quite diverse styles except where bastardized by careless writing or performing. For instance: M*A*S*H....comedy The Paul Lynde Show....Farce Beverly Hillbillies.....Slapstick Batman......Satire I dream of Jeannie....Fantasy And the same rules hold just as true. Imagine a scene in M*A*S*H in which Arthur Hill appears playing his "Owen Marshall" role, or Archie Bunker suddenly landing on "Gilligan's Island" , or Dom Deluise and his mother in " Mannix." Of course, any of these actors could play in any of the series in different roles predicated on the appropriate style of acting. But the maxim implicit in all this is: when the first-act curtain rises on a comedy, the second act curtain has to rise on the same thing, with the actors playing in commensurate styles. If it isn't already clear, not only does the audience accept a certain level of belief, but so must the actor in order to function at all. His consciousness opens like an iris to allow the proper amount of reality into his acting subtext. And all of the actors in the same piece must deal with the same level, or the audience will not know to whom to adjust and will often empathize with the character with the most credibility--total reality eliciting the most complete empathic response. Example: We are in the operating room in M*A*S*H, with the usual pan shot across a myriad of operating tables filled with surgical teams at work. The leads are sweating away at their work, and at the same time engaged in banter with the head nurse. Suddenly, the doors fly open and Batman appears! Now the scene cannot go on. The M*A*S*H characters, dealing with their own level of quasi-comic reality, having subtext pertinent to the scene, cannot accept as real in their own terms this other character. Oh yes, they could make fast adjustments. He is a deranged member of some battle-fatigued platoon and somehow came upon a Batman suit. But the Batman character cannot then play his intended character true to his own series. Even if it were possible to mix both styles, it would have to be dealt with by the characters, not just abruptly accepted. Meanwhile, the audience will stick with that level of reality to which they have been introduced, and unless the added character quickly adjusts, will reject him. The most generic problem to date in “The Brady Bunch” has been this almost constant scripted inner transposition of styles. 1. A pie-throwing sequence tacked unceremoniously onto the end of a weak script. 2. The youngest daughter in a matter of a few unexplained hours managing to look and dance like Shirley Temple. 3. The middle boy happening to run into a look-alike in the halls of his school, with so exact a resemblance he fools his parents [Rowe: what that’s never happened to you?]. And the list goes on. Once again, we are infused with the slapstick. The oldest boy’s hair turns bright orange in a twinkling of the writer’s eye, having been doused with a non-FDA-approved hair tonic. (Why any boy of Bobby’s age, or any age, would be investing in something as outmoded and unidentifiable as “hair tonic” remains to be explained. As any kid on the show could tell the writer, the old hair-tonic routine is right out of “Our Gang.” Let’s face it, we’re long since past the “little dab’ll do ya” era.) Without belaboring the inequities of the script, which are varied and numerous, the major point to all this is: Once an actor has geared himself to play a given style with its prescribed level of belief, he cannot react to or accept within the same confines of the piece, a different style. When the kid’s hair turns red, it is Batman in the operating room. I can’t play it.

Exactly. Of course Sherwood Schwartz (or maybe it was his son Lloyd) said "Robert Reed is the kind of actor that if he got bad reviews playing Hamlet would say 'hey, I didn't write this s**t!'"

 

[Loan Sharks]

Cope you are right in what you are saying but this was from a while ago.

Basic problem is some people think this is fantasy and some think it is drama and have different lenses of belief effecting how they see the show.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

No clue why they needed an hour and a half for that. Half hour tops would have been perfect.

This is what I said to my wife. Coulda knocked that out in 30 mins easy.

 

[nirad3]

Once again, buncha whining about writing. If it's so bad... WHY ARE YOU WATCHING THE SHOW?

Oh, I get it, it's your "board schtick". Good grief.

Thought the acting was terrific in this episode. Will agree that Tubbyninja should have gone out in a blaze of glory rather than something as weak as turning his back for a second. That could have been handled differently.

And at people saying it was bad timing to put this episode here. Completely, 100% intended. Gives us another week to wonder what happened about Glenn. Hook, line and sinker.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Oh no, zombie is coming for Morgan and Morgan isn't moving. Should I whack him with my bo staff that I'm super good with? Nah, I'll run up and push Morgan ou----AH MY BACK!

 

[cstu]

Oh no, zombie is coming for Morgan and Morgan isn't moving. Should I whack him with my bo staff that I'm super good with? Nah, I'll run up and push Morgan ou----AH MY BACK!

Rewatched that scene this morning and it was even more ridiculous than the first time.

 

[Copeman]

Oh no, zombie is coming for Morgan and Morgan isn't moving. Should I whack him with my bo staff that I'm super good with? Nah, I'll run up and push Morgan ou----AH MY BACK!

Definitely the weakest part of the episode. No argument here. Could have, and should have been handled differently.

 

[Todem]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

Then your a complete moron for continuing to watch a show you don't like.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Oh no, zombie is coming for Morgan and Morgan isn't moving. Should I whack him with my bo staff that I'm super good with? Nah, I'll run up and push Morgan ou----AH MY BACK!

Rewatched that scene this morning and it was even more ridiculous than the first time.

Mrs. SB and I had the same reaction at the time. So horribly done and stupid.

Walker coming through the bonfire was obvious but funny.

 

[cstu]

Oh no, zombie is coming for Morgan and Morgan isn't moving. Should I whack him with my bo staff that I'm super good with? Nah, I'll run up and push Morgan ou----AH MY BACK!

Definitely the weakest part of the episode. No argument here. Could have, and should have been handled differently.

I can't believe the director* saw that and was "Nailed it! That's a wrap!"

*ETA: now it makes sense, Stephen Williams directed a bunch of LOST episodes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Williams_%28director%29

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

Then your a complete moron for continuing to watch a show you don't like.

Damn. You sure told me.

 

[Copeman]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

Then your a complete moron for continuing to watch a show you don't like.

Damn. You sure told me.

While it might be a tad harsh in the way he worded it, can you please explain why you do continue watching it if you think the writing is so bad?

 

[tommyboy]

For quite a few seasons people were wondering what happened to Morgan? What was he doing? Then the past year people were wondering where he got his ninja skills from? The clamored for the directors to show these things.

They finally do, and no one is happy.

I'm not surprised....

I like the episode right up until the part where ninja man gets bit by a slow walker. this is a guy that has fended off anything for a year or more, is an Akido master and has defeated Morgan a couple times already. He's basically Chuck Norris and yet he lets himself get bit in the back by a walker. did not buy it.

And let's cut the points off our sticks because we don't kill people any more, except the whole world has turned to zombies where pointy sticks are actually pretty useful.

honestly, i really liked this guy Eastman. It was a nice character. Like all of the characters in the show, he was scarred. He dealt with it in his Aikido way, that was his solution. But was that the right way ultimately to deal with the new reality? No, obviously not as you see with Morgans current actions putting other people in danger or getting them outright killed. So as a solitary person living in the woods in a well guarded location, his method can make some sense. But put yourself out in the wider world and it doesn't really work anymore not because you're a bad person, but because the world that exists now is full of extremely bad people and the only way to deal with them is either avoidance or killing.

 

[Todem]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

Then your a complete moron for continuing to watch a show you don't like.

Damn. You sure told me.

While it might be a tad harsh in the way he worded it, can you please explain why you do continue watching it if you think the writing is so bad?

I gave you the answer.

He is a moron. And his board shtick is old.....really old. He trolls threads and acts like a doosh.

But if that entertains some of you here.....enjoy. He just made my ever growing ignore list. Someone who completely dislikes a show but continues to watch it.

****ing brilliant.

 

[tonydead]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

Then your a complete moron for continuing to watch a show you don't like.

Damn. You sure told me.

While it might be a tad harsh in the way he worded it, can you please explain why you do continue watching it if you think the writing is so bad?

It's still better than 80% of the other crap that is on tv and I'm a huge fan of the genre.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

People tend to forge that this isn't a show "based" on zombies. It is a show based on human interaction during an apocalypse. To know this and then complain that there is too much character stuff and not enough "action" is pretty dumb.

The problem is that the "character stuff" is horribly written.

Then your a complete moron for continuing to watch a show you don't like.

Damn. You sure told me.

While it might be a tad harsh in the way he worded it, can you please explain why you do continue watching it if you think the writing is so bad?

I gave you the answer.

He is a moron. And his board shtick is old.....really old. He trolls threads and acts like a doosh.

But if that entertains some of you here.....enjoy. He just made my ever growing ignore list. Someone who completely dislikes a show but continues to watch it.

****ing brilliant.

How do I troll? Am I trying to fool you? Do you think really love TWD but I come in here to criticize it just to see if I can get a rise out of people?

And please show me where I've said I "completely dislike" this show.

 

[tommyboy]

I "completely dislike" this show

see

 

[JohnnyU]

I "completely dislike" this show

see

That's not right man.

 

[Porkchop Express]

So he became a ninja in what, a week? Seems reasonable.

I did like how the bald guy finally suggested going to the coast and finding an island. I was pretty hammered again but what reason did the bald guy give for having to leave the compound?

I've said all along (since the beginning of this series) that an island is a great place to be. You can control post death a lot better and it obviously keeps herds away. In the fear the walking dead they mentioned Hawaii as an option. I'm surprised this hasn't come up earlier in the series. Not sure if Eastman gave a reason however.

TDogg mentioned it a few times. Or at least, heading to the coast and getting a boat, dont 100% recall if he ever said island.

No way TDogg had more than one line.

 

[cstu]

honestly, i really liked this guy Eastman. It was a nice character. Like all of the characters in the show, he was scarred. He dealt with it in his Aikido way, that was his solution. But was that the right way ultimately to deal with the new reality? No, obviously not as you see with Morgans current actions putting other people in danger or getting them outright killed. So as a solitary person living in the woods in a well guarded location, his method can make some sense. But put yourself out in the wider world and it doesn't really work anymore not because you're a bad person, but because the world that exists now is full of extremely bad people and the only way to deal with them is either avoidance or killing.

Eastman was only slightly above the Alexandrians in terms of naivety. Sure he could kick ### against zombies (most of the time, lol) but he would not have survived outside of his little cabin. Deep down he knew this which is why he never went on his 'trip' until Morgan showed up.

 

[cstu]

It's still better than 80% of the other crap that is on tv and I'm a huge fan of the genre.

Exactly. While disappointing, "horribly written characters" isn't necessarily a deal-breaker for me and that's why I continue to watch.

 

[Thunderlips]

I actually thought that the dude from Fargo was going to be the killer who he was talking about.

 

[Copeman]

wat

 

[Frostillicus]

I'm a fan of the show and watch every week and look forward to watching it, but there is some really bad writing at times, and that's ok. I don't mean the gas thing because who cares and they're treating gas an an unlimited resource in this world they've created and that's fine. I don't even mind some of the seemingly mind-numbing bad decisions because first, it's just a story and sometimes they need to create a specific scenario even if it's a ham handed setup, and second, I'm pretty sure if this was real life people would be making bad decisions all over the place.

But the way that dude died was just horrible. It's completely unbelievable. It's hard to believe that when that was written every one was like yeah ok, and even harder to believe when they watched back the execution of that scene they were like yep nailed it. Does anyone actually think that was well written or well shot?

It's ok to criticize it and still enjoy the show.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I'm a fan of the show and watch every week and look forward to watching it, but there is some really bad writing at times, and that's ok. I don't mean the gas thing because who cares and they're treating gas an an unlimited resource in this world they've created and that's fine. I don't even mind some of the seemingly mind-numbing bad decisions because first, it's just a story and sometimes they need to create a specific scenario even if it's a ham handed setup, and second, I'm pretty sure if this was real life people would be making bad decisions all over the place.

But the way that dude died was just horrible. It's completely unbelievable. It's hard to believe that when that was written every one was like yeah ok, and even harder to believe when they watched back the execution of that scene they were like yep nailed it. Does anyone actually think that was well written or well shot?

It's ok to criticize it and still enjoy the show.

WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE IF YOU HATE THIS SHOW SO MUCH???????????????????????????????

 

[packersfan]

But the way that dude died was just horrible. It's completely unbelievable. It's hard to believe that when that was written every one was like yeah ok, and even harder to believe when they watched back the execution of that scene they were like yep nailed it. Does anyone actually think that was well written or well shot?

I never gave it a second thought until reading this thread. I still think it's believable that someone who hasn't had to protect anyone else besides a goat might not have made the sharpest decision in a moment of life or death involving the first person he's likely spent any time with in a few years or so. Was it a glorified way to go out? Nope but like I said earlier I don't need or want every character to die a hero's death. Sometimes they will die when they do stupid s**t.