***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[jamny]

Did anyone catch what Ron said after Carl told Rick everything was ok at the couch? I couldn't make it out.

It was something like;

Mom: it sounded like you were yelling

Ron: yeah, yelling that the walkers were breaking in.

Mom: oh ok...nevermind.

Just another scene where a discussion really wasn't priority at that moment but the writers thought it necessary for some reason.

It may not have been a priority but I think it was important to show that Rick and Mrs. PorchDick knew something was up but Carl didn't wanna put Ron in danger like that. Rick probably would've offed him if he knew the truth. I thought last night's episode was a pretty good one for Carl all things considered.

I'm just saying that maybe there was a more important thing to focus on at that moment. They could have had that same conversation while they were slapping on the zombie goop later on.

 

[phatdawg]

Never thought I'd say this, but I'm losing interest. Just a bit. Was NOT a good mid-season finale. Not on par with previous seasons, that is for sure. They really need to come back in February and pick it up.....A LOT.

This is the most disappointing aspect. I loved the show and defended it it has gone in the crapper. I think the big cliff hanger is Kneegen, which is a stupid name. Problem seems to be they assume the audience reads comic books and that is supposed to be a major cliffhanger.

I don't know who Negan is, and in context he is just the next guy Rick is going to kill so not thrilling to someone with no comics background. I wouldn't know who Kneegen is except for this thread.

I agree that the mid season finale was disappointing. However, don't forget the major cliffhanger that the town is filled with walkers, including the ones that have Rick, Michonne, Coral and others surrounded while the scared ####less young boy is drawing attention to them by calling for his Mom.

Part of my disappointment was that I expected them to get further along in dealing with the town full of walkers as opposed to spending so much time with Deanna's death. I think the writers expect us to care about Deanna for some reason, but I simply don't and that gave her death much less impact.

 

[packersfan]

Never thought I'd say this, but I'm losing interest. Just a bit. Was NOT a good mid-season finale. Not on par with previous seasons, that is for sure. They really need to come back in February and pick it up.....A LOT.

This is the most disappointing aspect. I loved the show and defended it it has gone in the crapper. I think the big cliff hanger is Kneegen, which is a stupid name. Problem seems to be they assume the audience reads comic books and that is supposed to be a major cliffhanger.

I don't know who Negan is, and in context he is just the next guy Rick is going to kill so not thrilling to someone with no comics background. I wouldn't know who Kneegen is except for this thread.

I agree that the mid season finale was disappointing. However, don't forget the major cliffhanger that the town is filled with walkers, including the ones that have Rick, Michonne, Coral and others surrounded while the scared ####less young boy is drawing attention to them by calling for his Mom.

Part of my disappointment was that I expected them to get further along in dealing with the town full of walkers as opposed to spending so much time with Deanna's death. I think the writers expect us to care about Deanna for some reason, but I simply don't and that gave her death much less impact.

Yeah the two characters put in the most peril last night were Deanna and the lesbian doc, neither of whom are all that important in the grand scheme of things.

Are the Wolves unique to the show or are they in the comics? There are now two bad groups of people outside the walls and I think it's safe to assume they clash at some point, perhaps with the group caught in the middle. There's going to be a lot of focus on Negan's group given his importance in the comics but the Wolves aren't going away and I don't see that group and Negan's playing nicely with one another.

 

[flapgreen]

Didn't understand the gas truck scene either. I'm not even slowing down, much less stopping and getting out. I'll take my chances and duck while driving full speed over top of you. You'll only get a few shots off before I run over your ###. Lame

 

[packersfan]

Didn't understand the gas truck scene either. I'm not even slowing down, much less stopping and getting out. I'll take my chances and duck while driving full speed over top of you. You'll only get a few shots off before I run over your ###. Lame

Daryl's gotten soft.

 

[Loan Sharks]

This would have been better

Ron : YOUR DADS A KILLER!

Carl : I get it. My Dad executed your dad at after Deana ordered him too. I know you must be upset that your dad didn't get a trial prior to sentencing but since he chopped Regs head off in front of everyone who would be on the jury that was probably an unnecessary step. Oh plus I banged Enid in a hollow tree.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Maybe I am being too harsh I am going to watch it again.

 

[urbanhack]

WHAT IS SEPINWALL SAYING????

 

[Loan Sharks]

Ok I am watching it again.

Did Deanna even get bit? They made a big deal about her landing on a rusty circular saw blade. I think they just let her die because she had tetanus. More likely Deanna will be back at a later date. I am thinking that is the whole point of her deciding to fight instead of giving up and capping herself. She was only down for a second.

I bet Deanna is alive is going Rambo in the hallway.

 

[falguy]

she'll probably just hide under the bed and we'll see her again in 2 or 3 episodes

 

[packersfan]

If Negan's group takes any of Lori's lawn-mowing equipment #### is gonna get real.

 

[Zow]

Actually there was never really any shark to jump. This show has always been sketchy. Some episodes better than others but it's not like it suffered some huge drop in quality over the years.

Oddly enough..."Happy Days" had been crappy for a few seasons before the shark episode.

Season 1 was incredible. Maybe I'm too fondly remembering it but the first episode - seeing that kind of cinematic production on TV. So much promise, getting to the CDC, finding out the truth, first characters wrestling with 'do I really want to live in this kind of world'... Granted I never, and still haven't, read the comics. But IMO there's barely enough meat on the 'will humans retain their humanity' angle for even the best written and best acted version of this. But the constant changing of rules and the very mediocre to bad acting by most, with the rinse-and-repeat plot line (wander, find new safety, new place isn't what they hoped, should we stay or take over, oh #### a horde/illness/other group, nowhere is safe!!!!!!, wander) is just too much.But... I'll probably keep watching because #### it I've gotten this far.

Yep. My thoughts exactly too. I thought the first few seasons were very good. Not quite Breaking Bad good, but definitely up there. Zombies were still new and I was very interested if there would be a cure or some sort of sanctuary as well as the cause of the outbreak. Plus the Rick character was, initially, very well done.

The Governor stuff wasn't terrible but it was definitely one notch lower. I then got high hopes for Terminus but that fizzled pretty quickly. It really is kind of like what GordonGekko said: the series is lacking because it has no real direction and has devolved into a "who is the next bad guy" storyline with characters whose arcs have staled.

 

[stbugs]

Didn't understand the gas truck scene either. I'm not even slowing down, much less stopping and getting out. I'll take my chances and duck while driving full speed over top of you. You'll only get a few shots off before I run over your ###. Lame

At least don't drive up right in front of them. Stop way down the road and get the damn rocket launcher ready.

 

[jamny]

Ok I am watching it again.

Did Deanna even get bit? They made a big deal about her landing on a rusty circular saw blade. I think they just let her die because she had tetanus. More likely Deanna will be back at a later date. I am thinking that is the whole point of her deciding to fight instead of giving up and capping herself. She was only down for a second.

I bet Deanna is alive is going Rambo in the hallway.

When she shows the wound to Rick there were clear teeth marks in her side. Almost comically clear.

 

[snogger]

As I mentioned before.. My biggest complaint was that it was only 60 minutes... as I watched it, at times it seemed "rush" like parts were cut or mashed together.. Maybe the writers at first planned on a 90 minute episode but AMC is bent on making "Into the Badlands" the next big thing, they forced it into a 60 minute time slot..

There was just so much going on that certain aspects just got a glance over..

Beginning to think the "preview" for February was meant to be the end of this episode but they couldn't fit it into the timeline and AMC saw it as yet another great promotional item to force people to watch "Into the Badlands"

My guess..

When it returns in February they will get a full 90 minutes and it will be one of those episodes.. For those that thought this season was "one of the best" up to, and for some, including the Morgan episode, they will be right back on that band wagon..

 

[snogger]

Actually there was never really any shark to jump. This show has always been sketchy. Some episodes better than others but it's not like it suffered some huge drop in quality over the years.

Oddly enough..."Happy Days" had been crappy for a few seasons before the shark episode.

Season 1 was incredible. Maybe I'm too fondly remembering it but the first episode - seeing that kind of cinematic production on TV. So much promise, getting to the CDC, finding out the truth, first characters wrestling with 'do I really want to live in this kind of world'... Granted I never, and still haven't, read the comics. But IMO there's barely enough meat on the 'will humans retain their humanity' angle for even the best written and best acted version of this. But the constant changing of rules and the very mediocre to bad acting by most, with the rinse-and-repeat plot line (wander, find new safety, new place isn't what they hoped, should we stay or take over, oh #### a horde/illness/other group, nowhere is safe!!!!!!, wander) is just too much.But... I'll probably keep watching because #### it I've gotten this far.

Yep. My thoughts exactly too. I thought the first few seasons were very good. Not quite Breaking Bad good, but definitely up there. Zombies were still new and I was very interested if there would be a cure or some sort of sanctuary as well as the cause of the outbreak. Plus the Rick character was, initially, very well done.

The Governor stuff wasn't terrible but it was definitely one notch lower. I then got high hopes for Terminus but that fizzled pretty quickly. It really is kind of like what GordonGekko said: the series is lacking because it has no real direction and has devolved into a "who is the next bad guy" storyline with characters whose arcs have staled.

As far as I know the comic book is still being written.. I stopped reading them once it reached the Governor parts..

This means you best be prepared for this to continue as that is the basis of the Comic books from what I've seen in spoilers( Beat bad guys, find a nice place to rest, beat new bad guys, rinse and repeat).. I don't think it will come to a "Utopia" type ending any time soon.. No idea what their "end game" is.. as I can't imagine a "Cure" will be found..

 

[packersfan]

I don't know if Kirkman has changed his mind but he said when the show began the whole point of his story is that there is no end. They aren't trying to find a cure or any of that. It's all about survival. Without knowing what's going on in the comics I doubt we'll stop seeing rogue groups or leaders with bad intent. There needs to be some form of confrontation for dramatic purposes. I do think one way they could go in the future is for Rick to go Full Governor and have the group turn against him. But I've always believed that if Rick dies the show dies so I wouldn't anticipate a storyline like that happening anytime soon.

The show has been renewed for Season 7. Barring something completely unexpected I would expect an 8th season too. So I think we're at least 2-3 seasons away from any kind of end game being created, assuming the writers and/or AMC decide they want to put an end to the show.

 

[cstu]

With the ratings declining, AMC will to continue to cut the budget and milk it for every dollar they can.

Only going to get worse from here.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

With the ratings declining, AMC will to continue to cut the budget and milk it for every dollar they can.

Only going to get worse from here.

Is the budget really the problem?

 

[tommyboy]

Ok I am watching it again.

Did Deanna even get bit? They made a big deal about her landing on a rusty circular saw blade. I think they just let her die because she had tetanus. More likely Deanna will be back at a later date. I am thinking that is the whole point of her deciding to fight instead of giving up and capping herself. She was only down for a second.

I bet Deanna is alive is going Rambo in the hallway.

she's dead. she wanted to know who she had to sleep with to get a "flashback" scene in upcoming episodes on TD last night.

I for one am glad she's dead. I had zero emotional attachment to her. She ranked right there with preacher dude, both useless characters. Rick should have murdered her during the interview.

 

[cstu]

Are the Wolves unique to the show or are they in the comics? There are now two bad groups of people outside the walls and I think it's safe to assume they clash at some point, perhaps with the group caught in the middle. There's going to be a lot of focus on Negan's group given his importance in the comics but the Wolves aren't going away and I don't see that group and Negan's playing nicely with one another.

The Wolves are unique to the show but are an altered group from the comics called The Scavengers.

 

[snogger]

With the ratings declining, AMC will to continue to cut the budget and milk it for every dollar they can.

Only going to get worse from here.

Yea.. sure looks like they are hurting for viewers

November 16-22:

“The Walking Dead” kept its hold on the top of the cable 18-49 rankings for the week of Nov. 16-22, and it also reclaimed the total-viewer crown.

AMC’s juggernaut was up in both adults 18-49 (6.7 vs. 6.5) and viewers (13.22 million vs. 12.87 million) over the previous week.

 

[cstu]

The most annoying part of this episode? They know the town is surrounded and zombies could pour in at any moment but nobody thinks to use the escape hatch.

 

[cstu]

With the ratings declining, AMC will to continue to cut the budget and milk it for every dollar they can.

Only going to get worse from here.

Yea.. sure looks like they are hurting for viewers

November 16-22:

“The Walking Dead” kept its hold on the top of the cable 18-49 rankings for the week of Nov. 16-22, and it also reclaimed the total-viewer crown.

AMC’s juggernaut was up in both adults 18-49 (6.7 vs. 6.5) and viewers (13.22 million vs. 12.87 million) over the previous week.

Down nearly 10% year-over-year in the 18-49 demo.

Stock dropped with the lower ratings.

 

[packersfan]

Are the Wolves unique to the show or are they in the comics? There are now two bad groups of people outside the walls and I think it's safe to assume they clash at some point, perhaps with the group caught in the middle. There's going to be a lot of focus on Negan's group given his importance in the comics but the Wolves aren't going away and I don't see that group and Negan's playing nicely with one another.

The Wolves are unique to the show but are an altered group from the comics called The Scavengers.

Thanks. Did the two groups meet up in the comics? You can put the answer in spoiler tags.

 

[Loan Sharks]

The most annoying part of this episode? They know the town is surrounded and zombies could pour in at any moment but nobody thinks to use the escape hatch.

Excuse me, but are you forgetting the completely safe and way better grappling hook to a tin roof so you can dangle like a piñata over a swarm of zombies escape method?

 

[cstu]

With the ratings declining, AMC will to continue to cut the budget and milk it for every dollar they can.

Only going to get worse from here.

Is the budget really the problem?

Part of the reason the writing is atrocious is that they don't have the budget to doing anything ambitious. This all goes back to the reason Darabont was fired:

IGN: Were they simply not willing to provide the budget you needed in order to do what you needed to do?

Darabont: The big crux of our argument was budget. If somebody comes and hands you the biggest hit you've ever had you don't just say, 'Okay, now we're going to cut your budgets by 25% across the board. And we don't give a s**t if you care, if you don't like it.' That's just...I don't even understand that kind of thinking. Or how much punishment it visits upon the people who are actually making the show, which was incredibly difficult to begin with. Cutting your resources by a quarter in the following season so they work even longer hours and under harder circumstances? It's inhuman. I'll write a book about this one day.

 

[packersfan]

I appreciate everything Darabont did to get this show made but in my opinion it improved after he was replaced. So any criticisms he had at the time and that may have resulted in his firing don't mean much to me. I think Gimple's vision of the show is every bit as strong as Darabont's was and arguably stronger in some ways although he's putting my belief in him to the test right now.

 

[Loan Sharks]

With the ratings declining, AMC will to continue to cut the budget and milk it for every dollar they can.

Only going to get worse from here.

Yea.. sure looks like they are hurting for viewers

November 16-22:

“The Walking Dead” kept its hold on the top of the cable 18-49 rankings for the week of Nov. 16-22, and it also reclaimed the total-viewer crown.

AMC’s juggernaut was up in both adults 18-49 (6.7 vs. 6.5) and viewers (13.22 million vs. 12.87 million) over the previous week.

Down nearly 10% year-over-year in the 18-49 demo.

Stock dropped with the lower ratings.

Even though the ratings are down from last year it is still 3 times as popular as Breaking bad was and

Walking Dead and other shows in the franchise — including Fear The Walking Deadand Talking Dead — account for about a quarter of the AMC channel’s total primetime audience.

A quarter of all of their audience from WD, this isn't getting cancelled any time soon barring a unprecedented implosion.

 

[nirad3]

Never thought I'd say this, but I'm losing interest. Just a bit. Was NOT a good mid-season finale. Not on par with previous seasons, that is for sure. They really need to come back in February and pick it up.....A LOT.

I've done more clock watching this season than the previous five combined. The last few episodes have been very underwhelming. This has been a great show in my opinion for five seasons and the start of this season was really good so I'm not losing interest. But I agree things really need to pick up in the second half.

I agree. I have been binge-watching the past couple of months as I didn't watch seasons 1-2 and only watched seasons 3-4 sporadically. The first four seasons are leaps and bounds better than the junk they've had on screen recently.

I'm getting to the point where I half-recall what I'm seeing and it's even better the 2nd time. At some point I'll need to stop as it'll get to where I totally remember the episode... and by then it will start to suck a bit. :(

Still a fan, and I'm guessing the 2nd half premiere is going to be awesome and will draw those of us that feel things are getting cumbersome back in.

 

[Psychopav]

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/walking-dead-negan-saviors-midseason-premiere-february-return-1201649819/

TWD preview

It's a prologue, not a preview. Lazy viewing imo.

 

[Rove!]

I think Alexandria and Rick taking over and dean as plans will move this in the direction of trying to build a society...

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Even though the ratings are down from last year it is still 3 times as popular as Breaking bad was and

That's just sad. Not surprising but very sad.

 

[Thunderlips]

The real problem with the show is that many of the characters (particularly the main ones)have become caricatures of the characters that they were.....but they don't have any significant enough internal conflict to be interesting. Without conflict amongst one another in their collective......they need internal conflict to round out any external conflict. The show was very much its best when you pitted Shane v. Rick/ Hershel v. Rick/ even Dale v. Rick/Shane and Rick v. Rick in battles of ideology. I'd even take Tyresse's conflict (not initially a fan...but mainly because they burned a strong character from the books in favor of creating a more "delicate" one) over just about anything going on right now....

The show has devolved into:

A) zombie kill of the week.

B) Carol being a badass or doing something to endear her to the repressed women watching the show

C) Someone dying because they're doing something stupid or careless

D) monologue (usually from Rick)over trying to survive.

E) Rick running to save someone and never missing a shot.

F) Tender moment that's either juxatoposed over something weird/gory or a glimpse of whatever "next weeks threat" is.

G) Daryl shooting something, being standoffish and brooding while flipping his lead singer of the Goo-Goo Dolls hair away from his eyes.

 

[snogger]

The real problem with the show is that many of the characters (particularly the main ones)have become caricatures of the characters that they were.....but they don't have any significant enough internal conflict to be interesting. Without conflict amongst one another in their collective......they need internal conflict to round out any external conflict. The show was very much its best when you pitted Shane v. Rick/ Hershel v. Rick/ even Dale v. Rick/Shane and Rick v. Rick in battles of ideology. I'd even take Tyresse's conflict (not initially a fan...but mainly because they burned a strong character from the books in favor of creating a more "delicate" one) over just about anything going on right now....

The show has devolved into:

A) zombie kill of the week.

B) Carol being a badass or doing something to endear her to the repressed women watching the show

C) Someone dying because they're doing something stupid or careless

D) monologue (usually from Rick)over trying to survive.

E) Rick running to save someone and never missing a shot.

F) Tender moment that's either juxatoposed over something weird/gory or a glimpse of whatever "next weeks threat" is.

G) Daryl shooting something, being standoffish and brooding while flipping his lead singer of the Goo-Goo Dolls hair away from his eyes.

Going off your synopsis.. internal conflict .. wouldn't this seasons Carol/Rick vs. Morgan count? Sure, so far not as much "fighting" untill the ill advised Carol with knife vs. Morgan and his stick.. but still seems to fit..

 

[3C's]

Even though the ratings are down from last year it is still 3 times as popular as Breaking bad was and

That's just sad. Not surprising but very sad.

Exactly. And i know Hannibal is (was) either love it or hate it for most but it was infinitely better than TWD and never got close to "bad" ratings for this show.

 

[cstu]

The real problem with the show is that many of the characters (particularly the main ones)have become caricatures of the characters that they were.....but they don't have any significant enough internal conflict to be interesting. Without conflict amongst one another in their collective......they need internal conflict to round out any external conflict. The show was very much its best when you pitted Shane v. Rick/ Hershel v. Rick/ even Dale v. Rick/Shane and Rick v. Rick in battles of ideology. I'd even take Tyresse's conflict (not initially a fan...but mainly because they burned a strong character from the books in favor of creating a more "delicate" one) over just about anything going on right now....

The show has devolved into:

A) zombie kill of the week.

B) Carol being a badass or doing something to endear her to the repressed women watching the show

C) Someone dying because they're doing something stupid or careless

D) monologue (usually from Rick)over trying to survive.

E) Rick running to save someone and never missing a shot.

F) Tender moment that's either juxatoposed over something weird/gory or a glimpse of whatever "next weeks threat" is.

G) Daryl shooting something, being standoffish and brooding while flipping his lead singer of the Goo-Goo Dolls hair away from his eyes.

Going off your synopsis.. internal conflict .. wouldn't this seasons Carol/Rick vs. Morgan count? Sure, so far not as much "fighting" untill the ill advised Carol with knife vs. Morgan and his stick.. but still seems to fit..

Carol vs. Morgan is boring because Morgan's character makes no sense. Ok, you had your little epiphany that 'all life is precious' but that doesn't mean you have to be a total ####ing moron and get people killed. Even Hershel and Dale had no problem killing when necessary.

 

[cstu]

Even though the ratings are down from last year it is still 3 times as popular as Breaking bad was and

Walking Dead and other shows in the franchise — including Fear The Walking Deadand Talking Dead — account for about a quarter of the AMC channel’s total primetime audience.

A quarter of all of their audience from WD, this isn't getting cancelled any time soon barring a unprecedented implosion.

Don't get me wrong - just like the original Planet of the Apes sequels, this series will go on a long time even with a dwindling budget.

 

[Thunderlips]

The real problem with the show is that many of the characters (particularly the main ones)have become caricatures of the characters that they were.....but they don't have any significant enough internal conflict to be interesting. Without conflict amongst one another in their collective......they need internal conflict to round out any external conflict. The show was very much its best when you pitted Shane v. Rick/ Hershel v. Rick/ even Dale v. Rick/Shane and Rick v. Rick in battles of ideology. I'd even take Tyresse's conflict (not initially a fan...but mainly because they burned a strong character from the books in favor of creating a more "delicate" one) over just about anything going on right now....

The show has devolved into:

A) zombie kill of the week.

B) Carol being a badass or doing something to endear her to the repressed women watching the show

C) Someone dying because they're doing something stupid or careless

D) monologue (usually from Rick)over trying to survive.

E) Rick running to save someone and never missing a shot.

F) Tender moment that's either juxatoposed over something weird/gory or a glimpse of whatever "next weeks threat" is.

G) Daryl shooting something, being standoffish and brooding while flipping his lead singer of the Goo-Goo Dolls hair away from his eyes.

Going off your synopsis.. internal conflict .. wouldn't this seasons Carol/Rick vs. Morgan count? Sure, so far not as much "fighting" untill the ill advised Carol with knife vs. Morgan and his stick.. but still seems to fit..

IMO, it's a weak sauce conflict that really only came into fruitition (at least the Carol/Morgan part) in the last half of the mid-season finale.....plus, it's more or less rectified already. It's not a over-arching theme. Rick/Morgan has been a bit longer (and there was that very nice point that Morgan made about Rick not killing him).....but it's a secondary story line at best so far that doesn't have much heat.

 

[cstu]

I appreciate everything Darabont did to get this show made but in my opinion it improved after he was replaced. So any criticisms he had at the time and that may have resulted in his firing don't mean much to me. I think Gimple's vision of the show is every bit as strong as Darabont's was and arguably stronger in some ways although he's putting my belief in him to the test right now.

Overall, seasons 4-6 under Gimple have been the worst but the ones he has written (premieres, mid-season, and season finales) have been some of the best

 

[Thunderlips]

I appreciate everything Darabont did to get this show made but in my opinion it improved after he was replaced. So any criticisms he had at the time and that may have resulted in his firing don't mean much to me. I think Gimple's vision of the show is every bit as strong as Darabont's was and arguably stronger in some ways although he's putting my belief in him to the test right now.

Overall, seasons 4-6 under Gimple have been the worst but the ones he has written (premieres, mid-season, and season finales) have been some of the best

I think that the early seasons were about telling a story from beginning to finish in a logical way. I think now, it's not as much about a tight linear story as it it about tying (and often shoehorning) an overall theme into each individual episode that each character (or at least the ones they've decided to use for that particular epsiode) reflects on/is influenced by. I don't think this is the only show to have morphed into this as I think Game Of Thrones is just as guilty.

 

[packersfan]

I appreciate everything Darabont did to get this show made but in my opinion it improved after he was replaced. So any criticisms he had at the time and that may have resulted in his firing don't mean much to me. I think Gimple's vision of the show is every bit as strong as Darabont's was and arguably stronger in some ways although he's putting my belief in him to the test right now.

Overall, seasons 4-6 under Gimple have been the worst but the ones he has written (premieres, mid-season, and season finales) have been some of the best

It's all subjective obviously but I thought the last 2 seasons were terrific. Season 2 remains my favorite. Season 3 my least favorite.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I appreciate everything Darabont did to get this show made but in my opinion it improved after he was replaced. So any criticisms he had at the time and that may have resulted in his firing don't mean much to me. I think Gimple's vision of the show is every bit as strong as Darabont's was and arguably stronger in some ways although he's putting my belief in him to the test right now.

Overall, seasons 4-6 under Gimple have been the worst but the ones he has written (premieres, mid-season, and season finales) have been some of the best

It's all subjective obviously but I thought the last 2 seasons were terrific. Season 2 remains my favorite. Season 3 my least favorite.

I know a lot of folks are torn on S4, but it remains one of my favorites and included a ton of character development.

 

[ghostguy123]

My favorite part is when they left bitten leather face alone with Judith, then Rick realized he couldn't leave her alone unsupervised......wait what was that, I'll be right back and leaves her again. Lol.

While I thought it was a bad episode, you may want to get better at watching. Rick clearly goes left (door to right), bends down and gets Judith and then closes the door on the way out when Michonne yells to him. I don't mind complaints about the crappiness of this episode, but I still hate the lazy watching complaints. Enough to complain about, like that whole damn wolf scene, so bad on so many levels.Am I wrong in not understanding the Wolf's jail? He is clearly only tied up at the hands. Carol walked right down into that room as did Morgan. What was the point of locking the door to the basement when it sure seems like the Wolf could walk right up the stairs and leave the house at any time (Morgan and Carol didn't unlock the front door going in). Again, such an awful scene and setup. How was it connected to the garage that the others were in? Just lucky that they went in or did Morgan want to make sure the Wolf had a quick exit if he found the garage door and broke through it. I understand Morgan's teacher's cell as that was steel bar enclosed, but Morgan's jail cell seemed more like house arrest with an ankle bracelet and the honor system.

Grabs her and then does what exactly? You must have missed the barricade from the outside to the downstairs in your lazy watching.

What are you talking about? Deanna was upstairs and Rick went downstairs. Guess what, he likely dropped Judith in the room next door. You do realize there are other rooms and heck, a hallway upstairs, right? They dragged the two zombies upstairs and Coral put Judith under his blanket upstairs. I have no idea what you are trying to say because you are trying to prove a point and you are wrong again. Please tell me how Rick couldn't have easily dropped Judith off before going downstairs to help Michonne.

Also, are you just trying to deflect from your original comment that Rick didn't grab her and close Deanna's door? I watched it again and that was 100% clear and what you said that he left Judith with her again was 100% incorrect. Again, lazy watching.

I said, "Rick realized he couldn't leave her alone unsupervised.". The exact quote from Rick's mouth, "From now on, someone needs to be with you.". He then left both of them upstairs, alone.

Not sure what your angle of putting her in a separate room accomplishes, since Deanna got up and went into Judith's room in the first place.

Jesus this is a dumb argument. So what if Rick left Judith upstairs. They had a rather urgent situation brewing downstairs. Besides, Deanna was still alive at the time, and the chances she would die and turn inside of a couple minutes was rather non-existent. That and even if she did, she wouldnt open the door or some other room to get at Judith, unless walkers remember how to use door knobs now.

The scene were Deanna was over the crib was just for a quick shock to the audience.

The place was getting overrun, pretty sure the 1 in a trillion chance a walker-Deanna would get Judith in that situation was worth NOT walking around with Judith while trying to fend of hundreds of walkers and actually thinking about a plan.

Seems like the writers gave ya the scare they were goin for. Score one for the writers. Writers 1, haters 10000000000

 

[ghostguy123]

The new shtick of telling all the complainers they should stop watching the show and then proceeding to list out an outline of your own complaints is awesome.

You no read so good

 

[cstu]

Jesus this is a dumb argument. So what if Rick left Judith upstairs. They had a rather urgent situation brewing downstairs. Besides, Deanna was still alive at the time, and the chances she would die and turn inside of a couple minutes was rather non-existent. That and even if she did, she wouldnt open the door or some other room to get at Judith, unless walkers remember how to use door knobs now.

The scene were Deanna was over the crib was just for a quick shock to the audience.

The place was getting overrun, pretty sure the 1 in a trillion chance a walker-Deanna would get Judith in that situation was worth NOT walking around with Judith while trying to fend of hundreds of walkers and actually thinking about a plan.

Seems like the writers gave ya the scare they were goin for. Score one for the writers. Writers 1, haters 10000000000

In that situation you put a hatchet through Deanna's head before running downstairs.

 

[ghostguy123]

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/walking-dead-negan-saviors-midseason-premiere-february-return-1201649819/

TWD preview

Seems like Darryl should have just kept going and plowed through them

Yeah, seems like a no brainer.

Exploding in a fuel truck seems like a no brainer?

 

[ghostguy123]

Only thing that could have saved that episode was Judith getting chomped by Capt Janeway. Get rid of two albatrosses at once.

I will say, if Deanna woulda been a walker baby eater, and Rick went total ape-#### and went on a monster walker killer spree, woulda make it a 5 star episode.

 

[cstu]

I appreciate everything Darabont did to get this show made but in my opinion it improved after he was replaced. So any criticisms he had at the time and that may have resulted in his firing don't mean much to me. I think Gimple's vision of the show is every bit as strong as Darabont's was and arguably stronger in some ways although he's putting my belief in him to the test right now.

Overall, seasons 4-6 under Gimple have been the worst but the ones he has written (premieres, mid-season, and season finales) have been some of the best

It's all subjective obviously but I thought the last 2 seasons were terrific. Season 2 remains my favorite. Season 3 my least favorite.

I know a lot of folks are torn on S4, but it remains one of my favorites and included a ton of character development.

S4 was very uneven - there were some great episodes like the Governor flashback and the 'flowers' episode but there was a ton of boring filler like the prison flu episodes.

 

[ghostguy123]

Actually there was never really any shark to jump. This show has always been sketchy. Some episodes better than others but it's not like it suffered some huge drop in quality over the years.

Oddly enough..."Happy Days" had been crappy for a few seasons before the shark episode.

Have you just watched more than 6 seasons of a show you don't like? That is embarrassing.