***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (3 Viewers)

[snogger]

I doubt any of the other groups- that we've seen are actively scavenging- would have found that spot. It's a day day plus away and thoroughly camouflaged with all the enormous and garish carnival stuff. Tough to see.

Of course the roof was going to collapse. 

Michonne giving up when she saw Rick go down by dropping her sword... Clear what they were going for, risky combined with the van pout afterwards. Just felt really out of character and contrived to milk another couple minutes out of the show. Given what I've seen of her all these years, I believe she would have gone ape #### on the feasting zombies... Maybe carelessly... but crazy slice and dice, not drop her sword.

Garbage Pail kids. So stupid. 

With Tara giving up the Josie and the #####cats gang, we're in for another episode at least of exactly what she told Judith before moving to any kind of negan sorry advancement. Speaking of Judith, I did like that she seems to not cry and has learned sign language... optimal skills for a post apocalyptic baby.

For many weeks people in this thread complained how the "Dead" have become an afterthought to the show.. and this episode showed us that the characters themselves have hit that point also.
Rick and Michonne joking throughout the Carnival battle, showed how nonchalant they had become fighting the dead.. Ho Hum more dead to kill ...

Tara's "conversation" with Judith was good in getting her thoughts out on why she didn't just give up Oceanside when she got back..
One of Oceanside risked her life to save Tara a couple of times which, as she said, there are very few in their world now days that would do so, and so she felt a need to protect them.

She has a pretty good read on how Oceanside will react, and how Rick will react and she is torn between helping the group that saved her first, Rick's group, or the girl who saved her the 2nd time, Oceanside.. In the end, we all knew she'd choose to tell rick, it was just a matter of when.

 

[snogger]

Rick trying to shoot a deer with a bunch of zombies reaching for him was really stupid, especially knowing the walkers would eat the deer anyway.  But it was surpassed by the really bad CGI superimposed deer itself.

I didn't have a problem with Rick and Michonne taking advantage of being alone on the road.  Nice getaway for them.  He even seemed to have thoughts of just staying out there on the road with her.  They make a good team.  But of course there's Carl and Judith.  I'm glad they included the fact that Glenn saved him from the beginning, in his dialogue.  Guess it got him back on track with their mission and realized they had to get back.  

And now Michonne really knows what Rick means to her.  She thought he was dead and she did the most un-Michonne thing she's ever done on the show.  

Rosita's actions with Sasha are going to speed up the war and likely ruin any plan of a surprise attack on his compound by a Rick led force.  Her and Sasha should just go ahead and fellate each other already.  

Seems each season, or at least part of a season, the writers are hell bent on making us hate a character we liked.. For a while Morgan was the disliked one with his "Don't kill, must save" BS.. Then it was Carol "LEAVE ME ALONE!!!" .. and now it's Rosita's turn. 
Blaming Gabriel for her crappy shooting that got Eugene taken away was

But hey, if you don't succeed the first time F'n everything up, let's try again and this time pull in the person just two shows ago you told to F off.

 

[Jayrok]

Wonder what's the back story on what happened at the fair grounds.  Looked like civilians were hand-cuffed national guard mixed in.  Maybe a staging area used for quarantine or something.  

And that was one ugly mom/housewife that Rosita killed for the toy gun.  Creature from the black lagoon.  

 

[Jayrok]

Seems each season, or at least part of a season, the writers are hell bent on making us hate a character we liked.. For a while Morgan was the disliked one with his "Don't kill, must save" BS.. Then it was Carol "LEAVE ME ALONE!!!" .. and now it's Rosita's turn. 
Blaming Gabriel for her crappy shooting that got Eugene taken away was

But hey, if you don't succeed the first time F'n everything up, let's try again and this time pull in the person just two shows ago you told to F off.

It's good to see that next week Carol looks ready to join the team.  Guess she realized Daryl was probably lying to her and she wanted to find out what's going on with her people.

I guess Rosita realizes she needs Sasha since Sasha can actually hit a target with a gun and she can't.  

 

[snogger]

Seems each season, or at least part of a season, the writers are hell bent on making us hate a character we liked.. For a while Morgan was the disliked one with his "Don't kill, must save" BS.. Then it was Carol "LEAVE ME ALONE!!!" .. and now it's Rosita's turn. 
Blaming Gabriel for her crappy shooting that got Eugene taken away was

But hey, if you don't succeed the first time F'n everything up, let's try again and this time pull in the person just two shows ago you told to F off.

It's good to see that next week Carol looks ready to join the team.  Guess she realized Daryl was probably lying to her and she wanted to find out what's going on with her people.

I guess Rosita realizes she needs Sasha since Sasha can actually hit a target with a gun and she can't.  

and

 

[brun]

Now I know why Rick never lost his hand. They were saving up their CGI budget for that deer. 

 

[Bossman]

I figured they would have ended this episode with Michonne stunned by the zombies apparently feeding on Rick ...

Same as what they did to us when Glenn fell off the dumpster.

Would have given people a lot to speculate on for a week.

 

[snogger]

I figured they would have ended this episode with Michonne stunned by the zombies apparently feeding on Rick ...

Same as what they did to us when Glenn fell off the dumpster.

Would have given people a lot to speculate on about for a week.

*Fixed for you

 

[El Floppo]

I figured they would have ended this episode with Michonne stunned by the zombies apparently feeding on Rick ...

Same as what they did to us when Glenn fell off the dumpster.

Would have given people a lot to speculate on for a week.

"Hmmm... Is Rick dead?"

Signed,

Nobody

 

[need2know]

And next week we get to deal with Carol and Morgan's bull ####.  Yay

 

[jwb]

And yet you are still watching.. AMC. the actors and the Producers thank you for your commitment to watch a show you hate. 

Yea, but I think for every "complains but still watching" person, there's (at least) an equal amount that just quietly bailed. Like me - I'm still reading this thread, but haven't watched an episode since 2-3 after the bat bashing season premier. What frustrated me to finally tune out was they had this excellent premise (show the aftermath of the massacre), but instead gave us two painfully boring episodes focusing on Daryl and Carol. That was enough - tired of being strung along. You can tell a few different stories per episode - GoT does it well. But then again, GoT isn't half commercials.

 

[packersfan]

There was a lot about this episode I wanted to like - Rick feeling the need to get lost in the euphoria of being with Michonne and not actively prepping for war; Tara finally realizing she needs to come clean about Oceanside; Rosita and Sasha going rogue. There were moments I liked but as a whole the episode like so many this season failed to grab me. The (overly) deliberate pace to get us to the war vs. Negan is being felt. I know it can't happen overnight and they want to flesh things out but my fear is like Season 3 (until now the weakest season in my opinion) the payoff won't match the buildup. 

 

[pantherclub]

There was a lot about this episode I wanted to like - Rick feeling the need to get lost in the euphoria of being with Michonne and not actively prepping for war; Tara finally realizing she needs to come clean about Oceanside; Rosita and Sasha going rogue. There were moments I liked but as a whole the episode like so many this season failed to grab me. The (overly) deliberate pace to get us to the war vs. Negan is being felt. I know it can't happen overnight and they want to flesh things out but my fear is like Season 3 (until now the weakest season in my opinion) the payoff won't match the buildup. 

I am at the point now I just dont understand why Rick and his crew dont just leave.  I mean hit the road.  Go west, go to Florida just get out of negans reach.  Seems more doable now that you have weapons. 

Also I wasnt paying that much attention but did they mention bullets or they just got the guns?

 

[snogger]

There was a lot about this episode I wanted to like - Rick feeling the need to get lost in the euphoria of being with Michonne and not actively prepping for war; Tara finally realizing she needs to come clean about Oceanside; Rosita and Sasha going rogue. There were moments I liked but as a whole the episode like so many this season failed to grab me. The (overly) deliberate pace to get us to the war vs. Negan is being felt. I know it can't happen overnight and they want to flesh things out but my fear is like Season 3 (until now the weakest season in my opinion) the payoff won't match the buildup. 

I can almost guarantee that, as far as this season goes, the most we will see of the upcoming war is an attack of some kind, be it Sasha/Rosita trying to kill Negan, Rick and part of the group attacking Negan, Rick and others hitting outposts, that starts the war.. My guess is most, if not all of next season, will be the actual war..

I'd expect the next few weeks to be nothing but the buildup.

 

[snogger]

I am at the point now I just dont understand why Rick and his crew dont just leave.  I mean hit the road.  Go west, go to Florida just get out of negans reach.  Seems more doable now that you have weapons. 

Also I wasnt paying that much attention but did they mention bullets or they just got the guns?

Rick told GPG that he got them weapons and "supplies" I took it that supplies meant ammo

 

[packersfan]

I am at the point now I just dont understand why Rick and his crew dont just leave.  I mean hit the road.  Go west, go to Florida just get out of negans reach.  Seems more doable now that you have weapons. 

He's gonna take the entire community of Alexandria on the road? That doesn't seem very practical. 

 

[pantherclub]

He's gonna take the entire community of Alexandria on the road? That doesn't seem very practical. 

No just the core group, his kids, darrly etc.  Just leave its not worth it at this point.  Having to deal with the cabbage patch kids, negan, etc.  Just go somewhere else thats safe.

 

[Copeman]

I'd be fine with whole seasons of them just out gathering supplies, clearing out neighborhoods, watching them fortify their home base, etc. Thought the carnival scenes were good, although there could have been some better writing in regards to it, most of which has been discussed already.  I miss those kinds of scenes.

 

[packersfan]

I can almost guarantee that, as far as this season goes, the most we will see of the upcoming war is an attack of some kind, be it Sasha/Rosita trying to kill Negan, Rick and part of the group attacking Negan, Rick and others hitting outposts, that starts the war.. My guess is most, if not all of next season, will be the actual war..

I'd expect the next few weeks to be nothing but the buildup.

They still have a lot to get through:

Carol (and likely Morgan) need to get in the game which may happen together or in separate episodes.

Ezekiel needs to get in the game which could be tied to Carol and Morgan joining the fight or in a separate episode.

Oceanside being recruited. 

That's a minimum of two episodes of buildup there. So yeah it's likely the war itself doesn't occur until the season finale.  

ETA - I'm also guessing there will be at least one more episode devoted to giving us an update on the Saviors inside their compound. 

 

[packersfan]

No just the core group, his kids, darrly etc.  Just leave its not worth it at this point.  Having to deal with the cabbage patch kids, negan, etc.  Just go somewhere else thats safe.

He's responsible for the entire community. No way he'd just leave them behind. 

 

[packersfan]

I'd be fine with whole seasons of them just out gathering supplies, clearing out neighborhoods, watching them fortify their home base, etc. Thought the carnival scenes were good, although there could have been some better writing in regards to it, most of which has been discussed already.  I miss those kinds of scenes.

I thought the opening scene was terrific. No dialogue, just Rick and Michonne out scavenging and getting their Jungle Fever on. But it was really well shot and gripping. 

 

[knowledge dropper]

that ####### deer was so poorly CGI'd I wasn't sure if I was hallucinating it or not at first

That was Sharknado bad.  

 

[El Floppo]

No just the core group, his kids, darrly etc.  Just leave its not worth it at this point.  Having to deal with the cabbage patch kids, negan, etc.  Just go somewhere else thats safe.

Agree he wouldn't leave the new people behind. 

Mostly, I think he realises this is comic book land; wherever he's gone there are comic book villains up to no good. Won't matter where he goes. Florida? Lol...yeah. should be awesome.

 

[need2know]

Agree he wouldn't leave the new people behind. 

Mostly, I think he realises this is comic book land; wherever he's gone there are comic book villains up to no good. Won't matter where he goes. Florida? Lol...yeah. should be awesome.

Can you imagine the demons that would spawn in that weirdo state if the zombie apocalypse hit?  It would be crazy town

 

[jamny]

Yea, but I think for every "complains but still watching" person, there's (at least) an equal amount that just quietly bailed. Like me - I'm still reading this thread, but haven't watched an episode since 2-3 after the bat bashing season premier. What frustrated me to finally tune out was they had this excellent premise (show the aftermath of the massacre), but instead gave us two painfully boring episodes focusing on Daryl and Carol. That was enough - tired of being strung along. You can tell a few different stories per episode - GoT does it well. But then again, GoT isn't half commercials.

I stopped watching about a month ago but enjoy reading the reactions in this thread.

 

[Lehigh98]

I stopped watching about a month ago but enjoy reading the reactions in this thread.

I haven't watched any of the new ones since the break this year.

Just checking in to see if its worth going back and watching them or not.

 

[packersfan]

The ratings have declined which isn't surprising for a show in its seventh season. But they're still at a level that's the envy of TV cable dramas. But this season has been the most criticized (sometimes fairly; sometimes not) so it will be interesting to see how the ratings go the remainder of this season and at the start of Season 8. 

 

[packersfan]

I haven't watched any of the new ones since the break this year.

Just checking in to see if its worth going back and watching them or not.

Last season's finale and this season's premiere were both terrific in my opinion. The rest of this season so far has failed to live up to the promise the premiere delivered.   

 

[snogger]

The ratings have declined which isn't surprising for a show in its seventh season. But they're still at a level that's the envy of TV cable dramas. But this season has been the most criticized (sometimes fairly; sometimes not) so it will be interesting to see how the ratings go the remainder of this season and at the start of Season 8. 

IMO... If Season 8 is what most of us think .. WAR!!! .. The ratings are bound to go up... those interested in this show early on enjoyed the battles/fighting and deaths more then the "plot lines" so they will return for the war..  

 

[ghostguy123]

Enjoyed this episode.  Scavenging, banging, zombie killing.  Pretty much sounds like that is all that would be happening a couple years into a zombie apocalypse.  But a lot of people see to want a resolution to everything NOW NOW NOW!!!!!. 

Was shocked that bizzaro-lady from the trash dump wanted MORE guns.  He just brought her a damn arsenal. 

 

[stbugs]

Last season's finale and this season's premiere were both terrific in my opinion. The rest of this season so far has failed to live up to the promise the premiere delivered.   

Yeah, this season has been a little meh. My son and I are both not really that interested. It might be the garbage patch kids that are killing it and the horrific CGI (deer was just plain stupid). I honestly liked the time they were almost dead before they found the prison. Same with pre-Alexandria, that's much better than these episodes. If you are going to get gritty, get gritty.

Personally, I said the same thing as above. If I found what they found, I would grab all the food, guns, etc. and get out of dodge. There have to be better places still out there. Places with solar power, less zombies, etc. How long would it really take to pack up all the #### they have in Alexandria and leave? The arsenal they found along with the piles of ready to eat food? What are they battling for anyway? Mullet? They have Daryl, Carol, Morgan, Maggie, etc. If Sasha and Rosita want to die to save Mullet and get revenge, f em. Oh well, I know it won't be like that, but damn they are going to lose more than they gain.

 

[packersfan]

You can't take an entire community somewhere. That isn't practical. I'm not criticizing the show for that. There's no way Rick picks who can go and leaves the rest behind to get slaughtered by Negan. 

 

[wlwiles]

We need more main characters to die.  Even if it's a T-Dog/Spencer/Olivia level character.  The show lulls when it's just plot building episodes.  We can't have a war/battle every single episode...but we need some internal conflict ala Rick vs. Shane. I would have liked to see Spencer hatching a plan to take out Rick, having Rick figure it out or get tipped off, and the ensuing battle between them.  We had a little bit of that in Rick vs. Porchdick, and there's a little bit of Gregory vs. Ricks Group angst there, but IMO it would help fill the dead space the show has if we had some internal struggles and not just plot filler, plot filler, Negan, plot filler, etc. 

 

[mozzy84]

I like this episode for the most part. Loved the carnival scene even with the crappy dear!

 

[The Big Guy]

You can't take an entire community somewhere. That isn't practical. I'm not criticizing the show for that. There's no way Rick picks who can go and leaves the rest behind to get slaughtered by Negan. 

Exactly and remember that before they found Alexandria that they were starving and dehydrated, almost dead from poor hunting and scavenging. Why would you leave this paradise? You fight to keep what is yours.

 

[Major]

Maybe it's been addressed here but Rosita is looking way too frail. The first few seasons she was perfect. Sad!

 

[Jayrok]

I'm probably alone here but I don't get all the love for Rosita.  Never thought she was overly hot. 

 

[shadyridr]

I'm probably alone here but I don't get all the love for Rosita.  Never thought she was overly hot. 

lunacy

 

[tonydead]

Judith's age seems like the easiest way to track it. Most online stuff indicates that rick was in a coma anywhere from 3-6 weeks. During that time, Shane got Lori Pregnant. Judith was born during season 3. I'm not so good at judging the age of little kids, but based on tonight's episode, she can't be more than 2 or 3 years old.

So maybe 3-4 years since the apocalypse?

How long has it been since the initial zombie apocalypse? 

628 days starting this mid-season episode and the Lucille killings.

 

[El Floppo]

Maybe it's been addressed here but Rosita is looking way too frail. The first few seasons she was perfect. Sad!

agree.

she's the only one who looks like she's living in a post-apoc world with things like food shortages. how long does the show "survivor" last for the contestants? 3 weeks? they come out of that looking like skeletons... but here in zombie-land, everybody's looking just fine.

 

[packersfan]

I'm probably alone here but I don't get all the love for Rosita.  Never thought she was overly hot. 

That's just wrong.

 

[stbugs]

You can't take an entire community somewhere. That isn't practical. I'm not criticizing the show for that. There's no way Rick picks who can go and leaves the rest behind to get slaughtered by Negan. 

How many people are even left? Handful of cars, long range walkies, no problem. Rick and Michonne were able to get somewhere people hadn't been to in multiple years that took multiple days and going off road to get to that was pretty damn safe. They said no walkers in side. Fix the roof and that could last while you go scout out some more locations. They are near DC, you can get to Charlotte, Atlanta, Philly, Pittsburgh, NYC and Boston in an 8 hour drive today. Not saying they all would be accessible, WTF knows, but there are millions of locations around that area to hide from Negan that he'd never find.

Also, I'm not criticizing the show because we know what will happen (fight with Negan) and they cannot break from that. That said, moving an entire community of 15-20 people isn't practical, but arming a random group you know nothing about and fighting Negan to the death is practical? I just would rather them do a better job of maybe showing why they couldn't just up and leave (Negan outposts, roadblocks, etc.), instead of creating the garbage patch kids and their stupid way of talking. Just a little disappointed in the writing/stories lately. The deer scene is a perfect example. It was so obviously CGI'd and they did it just to create the moment of Michonne giving up just to get surprised and Rick throwing her sword to her (which was weird as she dropped it and didn't move much).

Anyway, hate to complain, but definitely don't feel like look forward to the show at all and unfortunately, they haven't done anything recently to rekindle the excitement.

 

[playin4beer]

I defended the story of haircut playing the Atari 2600 instead of a new gaming system because it was probably a nostalgia thing... But what sense does it make for Rick and Michonne (or anybody else for that matter) to be driving around in an old piece of #### van?

That's the one thing "Last Man on Earth" got right..  Tandy was pimping around in brand new trucks... Todd came into the show driving a Ferrari I believe..    Wreck-em, grab another..  If civilization has fallen, I'm getting some brand new, kick-### 3/4 ton, 4x4, crew cab, with big tires on it to mow down walkers with.  I'm not putting my trust in a 1985 Dodge Van...

 

[wlwiles]

I'm probably alone here but I don't get all the love for Rosita.  Never thought she was overly hot. 

I second this.  Give me Maggie all day.  I still have visions of her riding up on that horse in S2.   Mmmmm farmer's daughter...

 

[MikeIke]

I defended the story of haircut playing the Atari 2600 instead of a new gaming system because it was probably a nostalgia thing... But what sense does it make for Rick and Michonne (or anybody else for that matter) to be driving around in an old piece of #### van?

Because the old, non-computerized cars are easier to work on. At this point in the show we're around 2 years after the apocalypse. All the fancy new cars are worthless and can't be fixed but a good mechanic can keep the old junker working. 

 

[need2know]

I defended the story of haircut playing the Atari 2600 instead of a new gaming system because it was probably a nostalgia thing... But what sense does it make for Rick and Michonne (or anybody else for that matter) to be driving around in an old piece of #### van?

That's the one thing "Last Man on Earth" got right..  Tandy was pimping around in brand new trucks... Todd came into the show driving a Ferrari I believe..    Wreck-em, grab another..  If civilization has fallen, I'm getting some brand new, kick-### 3/4 ton, 4x4, crew cab, with big tires on it to mow down walkers with.  I'm not putting my trust in a 1985 Dodge Van...

A new ride doesn't fit the hard times these characters are going through.  The writers constantly remind us of this

 

[Dr Oadi]

So who's  rooting for Negan and Euge....I mean Negan to win? Or at least kill Rick before they lose?

 

[tonydead]

 They are near DC, you can get to Charlotte, Atlanta, Philly, Pittsburgh, NYC and Boston in an 8 hour drive today. Not saying they all would be accessible, WTF knows, but there are millions of locations around that area to hide from Negan that he'd never find.

That's the one thing "Last Man on Earth" got right..  Tandy was pimping around in brand new trucks... Todd came into the show driving a Ferrari I believe..    Wreck-em, grab another..  If civilization has fallen, I'm getting some brand new, kick-### 3/4 ton, 4x4, crew cab, with big tires on it to mow down walkers with.  I'm not putting my trust in a 1985 Dodge Van...

That's just it though, and my major complaint ever since the van flip episode and they got to Alexandria; they aren't really in suburb DC.  They couldn't be, how on earth are a lack of guns and vehicles a problem in the metro DC area with 98% of their owners zombied?  They are stuck back in rural Georgia stumbling around the back woods occasionally bumping into the occasional farmhouse or compound.  

Not sure how it's shown in the comics, but, how the authors have them going to a major metropolitan area without getting out of the woods is beyond me.

ETA: or food for that matter, or medical supplies or anything else after just two years.

 

[tonydead]

Because the old, non-computerized cars are easier to work on. At this point in the show we're around 2 years after the apocalypse. All the fancy new cars are worthless and can't be fixed but a good mechanic can keep the old junker working. 

Do you have any idea how many car dealerships are in the metro DC area with a lot full of brand new cars with less than 500 miles on them at any given point in time?  

 

[comfortably numb]

Yea, but I think for every "complains but still watching" person, there's (at least) an equal amount that just quietly bailed. Like me - I'm still reading this thread, but haven't watched an episode since 2-3 after the bat bashing season premier. What frustrated me to finally tune out was they had this excellent premise (show the aftermath of the massacre), but instead gave us two painfully boring episodes focusing on Daryl and Carol. That was enough - tired of being strung along. You can tell a few different stories per episode - GoT does it well. But then again, GoT isn't half commercials.

I bailed after the dumpster shimmy and would check in here from time to time.

I caught bits and pieces of the last few episodes...it's a shame. This should could have had a lot of critical acclaim (i.e GOT) but they decided to go the route of poor writing/storylines and  opted for cool zombie scenes instead.

I'm positive there are 2 groups of writers in a room for each episode.

1 group to solely figure out 2-3 awesome and new ways to show and kill zombies and another group to write a semi comic related related story to get to said scene.