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LOL at the contortion from the original point I replied to. No, I don't think Morgan is on board as of last night's episode. Yes, I believe he will move from being conflicted to become part of the battle, and may even play an important role in it. These aren't mutually exclusive positions.
I do agree he is conflicted and still fighting the "pacifist" battle....
I thought Tara told Rick that Heath decided to go to DC to fight terrorists and/or terrorist walkers.
You made them mutually exclusive when you replied directly to and made argument against this post:
But, glad you've come to your senses.tonydead said:
Rosita and Sasha are going in freestyle... That will set things in motion. Negan will roll out to attack somewhere and then get surrounded by the other groups
That was my take. He's pushed to the brink right now. Part of him may be trying to keep his pacifist belief intact but I think his reciting to the Saviors exactly what ****'s plan was is an indication he's preparing to fight just like **** was. I think he finally understands what needs to be done even if it still runs contrary to how he wants to behave.I do agree he is conflicted and still fighting the "pacifist" battle....
But in regards to the Bold part.. IMO, the sharpening of his weapon is his realization that killing the living is necessary in order to survive. I believe his comments to Carol on "I'm going to kill them all" was in reference to Saviors and Walkers.
I don't think he has Fully returned to "Clear" Morgan.. but he is no longer "Pacifist" Morgan either.
Fair enough, I recognize the confusion.
My initial reply was to a poster who said Morgan was on board. I thought Morgan remained conflicted. Your reply straw-manned me the position that Morgan was sitting out the war, which I hadn't said at all, and really was not a logical extension of what I'd posted. I could have corrected that misunderstanding, but what I replied to in your post was your logic that because Carol was up off the couch (in fact she did openly say they need to fight), Morgan would be as well. That didn't seem logical to me, because clearly Carol is at one mental state at the kingdom recommending fight, and Morgan is "gone but not gone" choosing reclusion.If he was on board already, he would be hand in hand with Carol at the kingdom recommending fight. On TD, he described himself as an unwilling participant, and that sums up where I see him right now.
Morgan's a great character. Gimple really has done a terrific job with the three Morgan-centric episodes he's written.Fair enough, I recognize the confusion.
To be clear though, I get that it fits the story that some epiphany will occur with his character. They aren't developing him for nothing. All likelihood, he'll realize his approach is not suited for this world and will engage - as Snogger noted he is sharpening his spear. Alternatively, his reluctance will spell doom for himself or someone else. His internal conflict seems fluid and that makes his character intriguing.
The tension that had been building. The last few drop offs haven't gone exactly smoothly.
down to them will avoid a possible visit inside the Kingdom by the Saviors while you prepare for war. 
Yeah I think you might be wrong on this. Certainly he had rage against Richard, that much was obvious, but it was also pretty clear he wanted the Saviors to believe the Kingdom knew and accepted their role as subservient so they would be offguard when attacked. He was even using Richard's own words
Could be.
That goes to the whole thing about making it believable. He executed the plan and they needed to leave everyone else out of it to make it believable. Had he told them that might not have been the case.Could be.
No one knows for sure. I thought there was irony that Morgan was using Richard's own words in an earnest war-prevention manner. Definitely could be wrong, though still unclear why people assume he was solidifying a Richard plan, but not following through and advising Ezekiel on that intent. Instead of saying 'Hey Ezekiel, I set the table for XYZ plan' he abruptly leaves the Kingdom on a solo crusade? That doesn't really fit for me.
What plan? A solo Morgan vs. the world crusade, instead of what Richard described?
the alexendria guy with the dreads who left tara at the josie and #####cats camp... now star of 24 reborn or whatever.
Unfortunately I can't argue with you.might be time for you to find something else to watch.
Except for the fact that when Morgan was talking to the King and he called the dead kid Duane in error. That little name slip, using his son's name in the place of the kid, was to show exactly what Morgan felt abut that kid being a surrogate son to him and that would easily set him over to Clear mode again, just like last time Duane was killed.
Your post makes it sound like you are agreeing with me. That he doesn't have some grand scheme to suck in the Neeganites. But rather that he just lost it and wants to start killing everyone. My only point is that WHO he chose to kill was fairly stupid writing. Or am I misreading your post, and you think he is losing it, but remains smart enough to plan the sucking in of the Neegan clan?
watch Legion on FX. Writers on that show are like comparing Harvard grads to middle school kids.
I think he killed Richard for causing the kid's death with his actions. His breakdown after his son was killed originally was because he was not strong enough to kill his zombiefied wife and that broke him. Seeing this new surrogate child he semi adopted killed in front of him because of the actions of Richard was enough to make Richard have to go and send him off after Negan's folks too.
i can't figure out what happened. Outside of the 3 minute conversation with Darrell and Maggie about Glenn's death, i thought the entire episode was total filler. Didn't it feel like absolutely nothing happened. I guess we did have Sasha run into Neegan's compound with a sniper rifle, which was probably the dumbest thing she could have done.
That part is what I immediately thought of when they killed off Andrea. Weird that Michonne and Sasha are filling her shoes on the show.
This is what I thought too. Not only is it a suicide mission, it puts all their friend's at risk too, regardless of the outcome.
Well u also get a couple really emotional conversation s where people cry. If you can dig that
