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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (7 Viewers)
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Don't Noonan
Footballguy
The Whisperers group have to be considered the stupidest group of all time. They are walking around pretending to be zombies knowing that people will automatically try and kill them. I was laughing my ### off when Daryl shot the Wisperer in the leg. How incredibly stupid.
Agreed. What's the point in trying to hide in a small group when there were two of them and 5 or 6 enemies. It just made them look silly. So, this is a group of lethal people (like mom) that our good guys need to stay clear of yet, the whisperers have lost like 10 people and 1 hostage compared to 1 good guy and 2 good guy hostages. If the whisperers were so deadly and great at what they do, you'd think they could have done some real damage before they were even found out.Don't Noonan said:
Just disappointing that the real thing is way less scary than the advertisements and they could have stretched it out all season just picking off good guys every episode while the good guys freaked out and we didn't know if the walkers were evolving or not. I would have been stoked if they went that way, could have saved the show.
nirad3
Footballguy
for real.... did i miss something or did she say the doctor was the one that knocked her up? i thought she was doing the priest? and the idiot savant? good lord girl.....i'll watch, but certainly not live... it'll be my monday night watch
wlwiles
Footballguy
This irritates me to no end about this show. And the comics are just as guilty of it also. Group A goes out to do a task. Everyone back at the ranch is all "what's taking so long? Hey, lets send Group B to go look for them. Never mind that we have no idea Group A is, how far away they are, if they're together or split up, better send Group B to look". Two days later, Group A returns and goes "Hey where's Group B? Out looking for us huh? Guess we better go back out and find them". We end up with a circlejerk where everyone is looking for everyone out in the wild.
They've already shown us that Alexandria had outposts, watch towers, radios, flares, signals, bird calls, etc as a way to communicate outside the community. None of that amazing brainpower made it to Hilltop it seems. Set some freaking rules people. "Group A, you go do this task. If you're not back after 2 days, we're going to send Group B to X location, if you're not there then we assume you're dead and Group B returns home and life goes on".
Yep. It gets silly sometimes. This is years later based on Judith. They should be so freaking prepared and on their game that it’s frustrating to see a stupid situation like that at this point.
Again, instead of forcing a situation like this keep the whisperers as a real badass group that wouldn’t risk themselves unless they have no chance to die. They fact that the whisperers had a gigantic surprise and still got slaughtered comparatively makes everything they do with mom and I assume dad silly. They could have tormented and picked off the good guys for months. All they have is time. Ruined a great concept.
This season could have been an epic turn around to a real thrilling and scary show. I knew as soon as they made it all about the whisperers and yet solved the mystery in one episode, we were just getting the Governor part three.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Yep. Same ####, different villain. Just seems to be getting really repetitive. I find it hard to keep maintaining an interest.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Nobody even griped about the gas in Negan's stashed motorcycle? Man, times are tough around here.
nirad3
Footballguy
snogger
Footballguy
Kill or be killed works as a story line, see Rick version 2.0 and 4.0.. And being part of a large herd makes sense as people will run, follow them to where they go, and take over..
But yea, hanging with a group of less then 10 makes no sense..
tommyboy
Footballguy
i'm very interested in the young female prisoner. First she's hot, 2nd she's the daughter of the leader. Darrel is supposed to kill her if she doesn't cooperate but this girl seems to be a master of manipulation and has real strong game in the "i don't give a #### what you're threatening" dept. Good character.
Negan is a little soft from his many years in captivity
Negan is a little soft from his many years in captivity
DallasDMac
Footballguy
tommyboy
Footballguy
beer 30
Footballguy
And yet, here you are
Never understood these posts.I opened this thread and quickly realized I missed the last three shows before the break which were actually pretty good (everything since Rick got blow'd up). Kinda liked where they are going, yea it's cheesy and the whole whisperer thing should have gone on longer to generate some suspense but at least it's a different approach. Show was stale with Rick being the lead.
Too invested to bail at this point and I'm kinda back into again so will soldier on. I'm so done with the Neegan story line though. Kill the ####er already and move on, it's old and played.
Jayrok
Footballguy
I'd rather watch on hour of Negan and Judith banter back and forth while playing chess than watch the people in the new sign language group rummage through the forest.
"We've got to go find Luke, he's family and he'd do it for us." Off they go into the dark woods. They meet a walker (imagine that). "I was wrong, we should be out here! I've endangered my family, we have to go back until we have a plan."
Hey genius, that's exactly what Tara told you yesterday.
"We've got to go find Luke, he's family and he'd do it for us." Off they go into the dark woods. They meet a walker (imagine that). "I was wrong, we should be out here! I've endangered my family, we have to go back until we have a plan."
Hey genius, that's exactly what Tara told you yesterday. 
El Floppo
Footballguy
I've come to realize that I'm looking forward to Hag's D&D Youtube show way more than this one... and I still am only getting to Hags when I have time. (eta: I haven't caught any of the new TWD season yet.)
yeesh- after skimming the posts above (which I never would've read before- I like keeping things a surprise), seems like it's same old same old in the wrong direction, now with less interesting characters. but I'll probably dive back in and catch up at some point, because I'm a moron.
eta2: are they bringing ftwd back too? oof.
yeesh- after skimming the posts above (which I never would've read before- I like keeping things a surprise), seems like it's same old same old in the wrong direction, now with less interesting characters. but I'll probably dive back in and catch up at some point, because I'm a moron.
eta2: are they bringing ftwd back too? oof.
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So stupid. Awful episode. They ruined the whole whisperers in two and a half episodes. Instead of being a cool threat and more of a scared ####less, we can’t leave our community, it’s just a see a mom can be as badass as Negan or the Governor. The kid and the new people are just terrible. Even the FTWD characters were sort of interesting.I'd rather watch on hour of Negan and Judith banter back and forth while playing chess than watch the people in the new sign language group rummage through the forest.
"We've got to go find Luke, he's family and he'd do it for us." Off they go into the dark woods. They meet a walker (imagine that). "I was wrong, we should be out here! I've endangered my family, we have to go back until we have a plan."
It was. Makes me wonder, why don’t our good guys with Eugene have a ton of bullets? They could have wiped out Omega and her crew in five seconds. Are we just supposed to ignore the fact that they made bullets before or that there are likely millions of rounds still available? Or is Judith the only one who can carry a gun?Filler episode of all filler episodes .. .
For those that haven't watched yet, let me save you some time... in a nutshell "Mommy is Alpha...she's mean and crazy" ..
At least the previews for next week look "promising" .
I think this is my last straw. I fast forwarded a ton of last night’s show just to see if I could find anything redeeming. It’s kind of like Jaws where the scenes are scarier when you can’t see the shark. The whisperers are stupid when they are out in the open and you see the supposedly scary mom. Lol. If they really acted like that, do you honestly think that large herds wouldn’t have eaten them? If they are literally just wearing a mask and talking raspy that they wouldn’t be smelled? If they still hadn’t showed them yet other than a random knife slicing Jesus up, it would be scary. This reminds me of 24 when the final plans are smaller than the lead up plots. It’s like we are supposed to think Omega is the worst enemy yet when her husband who had her by 100 pounds and looked way stronger just sat there and let her kill him. I may still watch just to laugh and maybe see some of these awful characters die. There was not a single character that I cared about at all last night. Even Daryl is a shell of his former character. I’m glad your friends with my mom.
F you little turd.
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pantherclub
Footballguy
Where are the guns and why in the hell didn't they lay waste to every whisperer that walked to the gate? I just, I mean how do you eff this show up this bad?
Rustoleum
Footballguy
Also, if your whole deal is managing herds of walkers and ihiding among them so your true numbers aren’t known, why would you walk up to the gates without any walkers and show them exactly what kind of numbers you have?
Cant imagine there could possibly be too many more of them, unless they found a cool bait shop to hole up in.
Cant imagine there could possibly be too many more of them, unless they found a cool bait shop to hole up in.
pantherclub
Footballguy
If its 5 or so years after the "war" and they attacked you first why in the hell would Darryl and co just let them hang out in the open when you have the high ground and not slaughter them from the jump? This show has fallen so so far and is now just background tv as I fast forward it on my lunch break.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
This was my immediate reaction. I have to imagine by this time they would have learned from the previous innumerable deaths that letting the bad guys off the hook when they present themselves as uber-easy targets just really isn't the way to go. But I guess not.
snogger
Footballguy
Pretty sure that isn't all of them as the previews have Alpha say "Wrong Answer" and then you see many more moving in. As Daughter pointed out, they don't stay in one place very long as "All places fall"..Rustoleum said:
From Hill tops perspective, you wouldn't want to just start killing right away without knowing exactly what you were facing..
But yea, having Daryl walk out to confront Alpha, without knowing exactly what you are fully facing is
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pantherclub
Footballguy
You would absolutely start mowing down the whisperers if you were hilltop. They have automatic weapons, they have cover and the girl just told Darryl that the 2 dudes were more than likely dead. I mean what kind of arsenal could they possibly have that can provide for a full on assault? As I said I will keep fast forwarding through on a random wed just to see how stupid this whole show has gotten. I mean after all they went through with negan one would assume that as soon as she said her name was alpha someone would put a bullet in her head. Game overPretty sure that isn't all of them as the previews have Alpha say "Wrong Answer" and then you see many more moving in. As Daughter pointed out, they don't stay in one place very long as "All places fall"..
From Hill tops perspective, you wouldn't want to just start killing right away without knowing exactly what you were facing..
But yea, having Daryl walk out to confront Alpha, without knowing exactly what you are fully facing is
snogger
Footballguy
No way you can know what they have.. The governor found a tank after all.. Also, at this point Daryl still doesn't fully trust the girl..You would absolutely start mowing down the whisperers if you were hilltop. They have automatic weapons, they have cover and the girl just told Darryl that the 2 dudes were more than likely dead. I mean what kind of arsenal could they possibly have that can provide for a full on assault? As I said I will keep fast forwarding through on a random wed just to see how stupid this whole show has gotten. I mean after all they went through with negan one would assume that as soon as she said her name was alpha someone would put a bullet in her head. Game overPretty sure that isn't all of them as the previews have Alpha say "Wrong Answer" and then you see many more moving in. As Daughter pointed out, they don't stay in one place very long as "All places fall"..
From Hill tops perspective, you wouldn't want to just start killing right away without knowing exactly what you were facing..
But yea, having Daryl walk out to confront Alpha, without knowing exactly what you are fully facing is
They also know one of their own is hiding in the corn field and, as the previews showed, the two are not dead. So had they opened fire, they kill two or three of their own which would start a whole new situation and they have no idea who else might be out there.
As many mentioned, they have the high ground so they should stay there and continue to communicate.
Must be nice to have so much free time to watch a show you obviously don't like any more
beer 30
Footballguy
And yet, here you areTwinTurbo said:
Never understood these posts.stbugs said:
That was kinda #### writing.As for the rest, I'm typically on the "lets bash it" band wagon but as I said earlier, I like that they are trying to do something different. Could have executed it a little better and sustained the creepy factor a little longer but I'm willing to see where it will go. For those of you commenting on how bad this show has gotten let me remind you we spent season 2 on a farm...for the whole season...a farm. The world is burning in flames, the dead are multiplying geometrically and we spent a season on a farm. Don't challenge this show with poor writing, you will not like the outcome.
Dude, I enjoyed the farm. It was much better writing and you actually cared about the characters besides Laura. Shane vs. Rick was great and the search for zombie girl. Glenn and Maggie. Shane killing Otis to survive. The burning of the barn and the giant herd. It may have been a little slow but it was way better written. The backstory we got was silly at best to make us think that Omega is some scary villain.And yet, here you are
As for the rest, I'm typically on the "lets bash it" band wagon but as I said earlier, I like that they are trying to do something different. Could have executed it a little better and sustained the creepy factor a little longer but I'm willing to see where it will go. For those of you commenting on how bad this show has gotten let me remind you we spent season 2 on a farm...for the whole season...a farm. The world is burning in flames, the dead are multiplying geometrically and we spent a season on a farm. Don't challenge this show with poor writing, you will not like the outcome.
The creepy factor is gone. The writers seem to think that we need a super villain to make the battle work. It makes 0 sense that these people use walkers as their defense and weapon, yet outside of the circling, they’ve pretty much attacked most every time with 0 walkers other than the bridge where Lydia was captured because we needed to capture her so that Daryl and his ####### nephew would want to protect her from mean mommy.
It just sucks that after Rick “dies” the writers and show runners took the one story line that could have gotten us back to an original and scary show and turned it into just villain #3. We could have gone a whole season terrorizing all the communities and bringing tons of walkers into play. Heck, we got all these new characters that no one cares about so let’s use them as fresh meat.
Oh deaf girl made it out of the corn field and waves to her friend only to be stabbed in the back of the head and all we see is a zombified hand retreat back into the corn field. How hard is that?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Okay I haven't resumed watching. Does it still suck because I really don't want to get started if it is as bad as the last couple of seasons
wlwiles
Footballguy
Not trying to pick a fight with you, but I'm genuinely curious about one thing. I can understand how you (and lots of others in here already) want to have the Whisperers be more creepy, more slowly revealed, used as a more ominous threat, not outed so quickly, etc. But I can't understand how you can want all that without accepting the bolded part above. If they introduced a creepy/scary new group of people, some stealthy Jesus killers who lurk in the cornfields and don't ever expose their faces, and took half a season to make Daryl and Co. realize there was a real threat out there, and then finally revealed them to be some band of marauders like the group whose leader got his throat ripped out by Rick on the way to Terminus, then we'd all go "well this is stupid, just another villian group who wants to kill people, and how in the hell have they survived out in the wild this entire time, no way that's legit".
Up to this point (and without any comic spoilers), all we know about The Whisperers is this: living among the dead is their thing, and their leader Alpha is crazy/ruthless. They just spent an entire episode teaching us that their mentality is "it's the dead's world now, you have to live with them because resistance is futile, playing house won't last". That's their sole purpose up to this point, that and retrieving Lydia from her kidnappers. We don't know their real purpose. Do they want to just kill everyone, or take over Hilltop, or recruit all Hilltoppers to their club, or steal their food, or who knows what. But it's not a far stretch to go from Rick and Glen covering themselves with walker guts and blending in, to The Whisperers wearing walker suits and blending in. They whisper so they aren't detected. Daryl shot dude in the knee, he screamed, and he got eaten. To me it makes total sense that they use walkers to blend in, and they have learned how to steer the herds and weaponize them in a way. That's what makes them a legit threat, because there's so much unknown about them (what is their purpose) and because they're hard to detect among the herds.
I've got plenty of complaints about the writing of this show, and maybe I'm just weird, but the concept up to this point of the Whisperers isn't a problem for me. I would like to know how the heck 50 whisperers manage to stay fed while roaming with herds non-stop though. Must be a lot of worms out there.
beer 30
Footballguy
LOL, to each their own bud. I respect your opinion (you made me a believer in the LOST thread) but I almost bailed during the farm. I read some comic books to entertain myself and saw what was to come so stuck around.
To the second bold, totally agree. Had a great hook and wasted it 2 shows in. I did like the flash back aspect of Sunday's show, would love to see them use that mechanism to show a little more of what happened day +1 as people started to figure out how ####ed they were. I hope they bring this back around somehow, like explaining how they've tamed the herd? When Darryl dropped a whisperer, the walkers around him tore him up. I don't believe it's putting on a mask and the walkers ignore you simple, there has to be (needs to be) something more to it. Tie it in to the helicopter gang, I don't care just do something with it.
Rove!
Footballguy
Spoilers here but I have not watched an episode since the one where Coral died. It’s a series finale for me.
its not like it was great character, but he was the Mcguffin that drove Rick...Rick and Coral were cohesive element of the larger story. The series was headed downhill with Lion/Shakespeare guy and the Junkyard gang and the awful execution of the “war.”
it seemed like a good point to bail out.
its not like it was great character, but he was the Mcguffin that drove Rick...Rick and Coral were cohesive element of the larger story. The series was headed downhill with Lion/Shakespeare guy and the Junkyard gang and the awful execution of the “war.”
it seemed like a good point to bail out.
You misread the first part of my sentence without tying it to the second part. I understand why they use walkers. It makes no sense to me that that’s there survival mechanism yet almost every time we’ve seen them interact with our guys, i.e. fight, talk or capture them there have been no walkers or way too few. They come to the gate of the hilltop, no walkers. They fight Jesus, barely any walkers even though they had a huge herd with them. They surround Balls if Fire and some dude I still don’t know his name, no walkers. Lydia got captured because they hid with a few walkers against a group of people. Terrible odds, especially since they knew Daryl and team they were chasing already knew about them.
If your survival mechanism is hiding among and using walkers, then they do a ####ty job of it. If you have the element of surprise how are you down a dozen people and one captive and all you have is one kill and two captives who err captured because they’re idiots?
bryhamm
Footballguy
Some people didn’t like the farm. I enjoyed it because it was realistic and not just always forced and stupid scenarios. Decent character development and some key scenes. Coral being an idiot and it actually led to a good death. Shane and Otis was great. Daryl is likely going to sacrifice multiple lives to keep his little buddy’s girl from her mom. What a dichotomy from Shane killing a good person to save his ### and honestly it was the right thing to do. Sophia being in the barn. That one kid getting eaten while the barn burned because Coral shooting Shane brought the herd.
It’s also entirely possible that the past few seasons of things like the garbage 🗑 kids has made me think more fondly of the farm.
Flashbacks are great when they are good. We got the cheapest version (looked like it cost them $50 to shoot those scenes) with no action and silliness. One second the dad appears to be a wife beater and Alpha is a cowering lady. I’m supposed to believe she killed that guy by putting her hand over the guy’s mouth and he literally didn’t fight back at all? I sure got the metaphor that she ##### slapped her husband into getting his beard back (he must have had some Cliff Calvin beard glue to get that full beard back in a week). Again, her much bigger husband did literally nothing to fight back against her.
Everything is so damn rushed. Carol went from beaten wife to bad ### over the course of years. This lady did it in 5-10 minutes with 0 training and assistance from Daryl. That’s not character development. How about we see the whisperers in jungle warfare and mix in a handful of flashbacks to get us pumped instead of an immediate clan vs clan battle which seems to 100% go against the survive among walker tactics.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Yeah I'm here because I'm not watching the show. Why is that hard to understand?And yet, here you are
As for the rest, I'm typically on the "lets bash it" band wagon but as I said earlier, I like that they are trying to do something different. Could have executed it a little better and sustained the creepy factor a little longer but I'm willing to see where it will go. For those of you commenting on how bad this show has gotten let me remind you we spent season 2 on a farm...for the whole season...a farm. The world is burning in flames, the dead are multiplying geometrically and we spent a season on a farm. Don't challenge this show with poor writing, you will not like the outcome.
pantherclub
Footballguy
I am still watching because I was on board and a big fan from the jump so I am sortof addicted to the show. Like I said it used to be must see Sun nite tv but now its just filler. Its not a good show and at this point you cannot really debate it. Everyone knows it from the writers to the fans (hence the falling ratings). The producers know its sucks as they continue to switch out show runners trying anything to stop the bleeding. My main goal now with watching is treating it like a campy comedy and just watch how absolutely bad everything has gotten, dialogue, plot, villians etc. I doubt I will ever completely stop watching like I did with FWD but it would take a lot for me to devout a full hour or whatever to go back to the way I used to watch it and not fast forward half the scenes.And yet, here you are
As for the rest, I'm typically on the "lets bash it" band wagon but as I said earlier, I like that they are trying to do something different. Could have executed it a little better and sustained the creepy factor a little longer but I'm willing to see where it will go. For those of you commenting on how bad this show has gotten let me remind you we spent season 2 on a farm...for the whole season...a farm. The world is burning in flames, the dead are multiplying geometrically and we spent a season on a farm. Don't challenge this show with poor writing, you will not like the outcome.
beer 30
Footballguy
See I looked at that in a different way. To me it showed how jacked up Lydia's mom was but not in the way you took it. She had beaten Lydia down so much that Lydia believed the lie of her father being the wife beater and dominate partner when it fact, it was Lydia's mom all along. It was only when the turd showed her some compassion that the switch flipped and the real memories kicked in. Darryl talking about the switch and sharing some of his tough life brought it all out. The dad never shaved off the beard, the mom shaved her head and went full on #####, she even repeated the line the father used when Lydia first told the story, "world is ending, I'm gonna do what I want." I think Lydia really wanted to love her mom and the mom always pushed her away. The dad loved Lydia but he was a little ##### so he died a timid death. I think that was a stupid way for him to go, figured mummy would have slit his throat or something but mission accomplished regardless.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yeah, the Whisperers thing could have easily been much more awesome before they were fully outed. Not even really one full episode of a bunch of "what the F is going on" by the group. It was pretty much the same thing that FTWD did when they buzzed through the first 40 days of the outbreak in like 4 episodes when we all thought it was going to be like 3 seasons worth of stuff before reaching 30-40 days into the outbreak.
So like, Judith spends all this time out on her own in the woods shooting people, running into new groups, herds.................isn't she like 9?
So like, Judith spends all this time out on her own in the woods shooting people, running into new groups, herds.................isn't she like 9?
