***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (4 Viewers)

[TheIronSheik]

Has anyone ever tried reasoning with the zombies? Or has it always been a war mongering attitude towards them? It's no wonder they are so angry at us.

 

[Disco Stu]

Again, I don't read the comics but Andrea was a major character there, right? Is it possible Carol is turning into the TV version of that character? She's become tougher and more hardened over time. I wonder if they're taking aspects of Andrea from the comics and infusing them into Carol on the show now.

It's possible. She has certainly changed considerably from season 1 and 2.

I was thinking they might kill Carol off soon but that would mean zero season 1 female characters still standing.

 

[packersfan]

Again, I don't read the comics but Andrea was a major character there, right? Is it possible Carol is turning into the TV version of that character? She's become tougher and more hardened over time. I wonder if they're taking aspects of Andrea from the comics and infusing them into Carol on the show now.

It's possible. She has certainly changed considerably from season 1 and 2.

I was thinking they might kill Carol off soon but that would mean zero season 1 female characters still standing.

True, but they'd still have Michonne, Maggie and Beth (who still pines for Rick. we all know it's true). They seem to be focusing a lot of the storyline on Carol at least right now. Maybe they're giving her a strong arc before killing her off like they did (or attempted to do) with Andrea last season.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Did one of the episodes show Carol killing the two people? I was :shuked: when it came out that it was her. How did Rick figure it out?

Note: I need to stop watching these episodes when I'm half-asleep.

rick noticed a handprint on the door. Kind of just put two and two together and just asked.

he found something near one of the bodies, then followed the blood trails back to the door where he found a bloody hand print.He had already brought up the possibility that whomever killed them was doing it to save the group.

Then watching her sacrifice her safety to get the water running led Rick to think Carol was the one.

Interesting. I recall the bloody handprint, but had no idea why that could be tied to Carol.

cuz it looked like a lesbian handprint

 

[cstu]

They were very stupid for taking that car. As if 0 to 60 is more important than 4 wheel drive in the zombiepocalypse.

Well, it's not like they have a FULLY LOADED 2012 HYUNDAI TUCSON 0.0% APR!!!! just laying around. Hyundai cancelled that deal in season 3.

If only zombies hadn't eaten all the other vehicles in the world.

 

[Raider Nation]

Has anyone ever tried reasoning with the zombies? Or has it always been a war mongering attitude towards them? It's no wonder they are so angry at us.

I've been saying this for a couple of years now. They clearly are made to feel inferior and marginalized.

 

[The Big Guy]

They were very stupid for taking that car. As if 0 to 60 is more important than 4 wheel drive in the zombiepocalypse.

Well, it's not like they have a FULLY LOADED 2012 HYUNDAI TUCSON 0.0% APR!!!! just laying around. Hyundai cancelled that deal in season 3.

If only zombies hadn't eaten all the other vehicles in the world.

I mean where down south would someone be able to find a 4x4 or monster truck that could plow over and through most anything, especially since roads are blocked and they have to offroad at moments

 

[roarlions]

I still enjoy the show a lot but the start of this season is the weakest of the first four in my opinion. Gimple's character-driven approach is clearly evident and the tone is definitely different than what was employed in the past by Darabont and Mazzara. While I'm fine with that I wish the "threat" the group was dealing with had more menace to it. Hopefully that's still to come since we know the Governor is returning at some point. But while the idea of a disease killing them off in this mucked up world makes sense in terms of exciting storytelling it isn't producing a lot to this point. But as someone who stressed patience during the alleged slowness of Season 2 I'm not going to pass judgment until we see the story in its entirety.

I don't read the comics so I don't know what Tyresse's character is like there but he's really been difficult to watch so far this season. He's really quite the p***y and he didn't seem to be that way in his brief time last season. Hopefully he starts to man up or they can kill him off.

Here's my thoughts which are worth about

The flu is just part of the story line to force the group out.. right now it is to find medicine..

But now that they are "out and about", the first group ditched the car and others will be heading out soon to search, the real plot will turn with the massive herd of Zombies grouped outside of town and the voices heard on the radio.

If they determine that the herd of over 7,000 walkers is headed toward the prison there will be no choice but to leave the prison and get as far away as possible. The prison fences can't handle the dozens of walkers there now. The search for medicine provided the opportunity for the discovery of the herd before it reached the prison and may provide clues about how and where to escape.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Be 100% honest, given the chance, how many of you guys would smell a zombie's butthole.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The Hershel speech before he went into the sick area was cringe worthy

Totally. The acting on the show is awful. Tyrone is the worst offender.

Disagree with all of this

The opening scene last week with Tyresse's little hissy fit was an abomination.

And, for the record, I like this show. It is losing me a bit this year though. Tyresse's dash from the car after contemplating possibly not wanting to live anymore (because a chick who he had never actually slept with was killed before she died and turned into a zombie) might have been an all-time low point for the show. On several levels.

Karen died. His sister is sick and close to death. It's a zombie apocalypse. The world is ####ed up.

You're way off.

Thank you.

#### like this is a very common theme in here.

"Hey, everything is messed up because I don't know or can't remember WTF is happening....but I've been a fan of the show"

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I still enjoy the show a lot but the start of this season is the weakest of the first four in my opinion. Gimple's character-driven approach is clearly evident and the tone is definitely different than what was employed in the past by Darabont and Mazzara. While I'm fine with that I wish the "threat" the group was dealing with had more menace to it. Hopefully that's still to come since we know the Governor is returning at some point. But while the idea of a disease killing them off in this mucked up world makes sense in terms of exciting storytelling it isn't producing a lot to this point. But as someone who stressed patience during the alleged slowness of Season 2 I'm not going to pass judgment until we see the story in its entirety.

I don't read the comics so I don't know what Tyresse's character is like there but he's really been difficult to watch so far this season. He's really quite the p***y and he didn't seem to be that way in his brief time last season. Hopefully he starts to man up or they can kill him off.

Here's my thoughts which are worth about

The flu is just part of the story line to force the group out.. right now it is to find medicine..

But now that they are "out and about", the first group ditched the car and others will be heading out soon to search, the real plot will turn with the massive herd of Zombies grouped outside of town and the voices heard on the radio.

Thought this was just understood as well.

 

[cstu]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

We have at least three people calling him Tyrone. Is this shtick?

Seriously. His name's Cutty.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

They were very stupid for taking that car. As if 0 to 60 is more important than 4 wheel drive in the zombiepocalypse.

Well, it's not like they have a FULLY LOADED 2012 HYUNDAI TUCSON 0.0% APR!!!! just laying around. Hyundai cancelled that deal in season 3.

If only zombies hadn't eaten all the other vehicles in the world.

I mean where down south would someone be able to find a 4x4 or monster truck that could plow over and through most anything, especially since roads are blocked and they have to offroad at moments

Come on! A 4x4 in the south? Next you'll tell me that it could easy to find some beer or a shotgun in some houses

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

We have at least three people calling him Tyrone. Is this shtick?

Seriously. His name's Cutty.

 

[Psychopav]

The Hershel speech before he went into the sick area was cringe worthy

Totally. The acting on the show is awful. Tyrone is the worst offender.

Disagree with all of this

The opening scene last week with Tyresse's little hissy fit was an abomination.

And, for the record, I like this show. It is losing me a bit this year though. Tyresse's dash from the car after contemplating possibly not wanting to live anymore (because a chick who he had never actually slept with was killed before she died and turned into a zombie) might have been an all-time low point for the show. On several levels.

Karen died. His sister is sick and close to death. It's a zombie apocalypse. The world is ####ed up.

You're way off.

Thank you.

#### like this is a very common theme in here.

"Hey, everything is messed up because I don't know or can't remember WTF is happening....but I've been a fan of the show"

You can hardly blame us. Marilyn Manson himself called that kid Carol's daughter.

 

[snogger]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

pretty sure if they spent 3 weeks having us "getting to know" the Woodbury people the complaints of a boring beginning would be a million times worse. They brought them in to show the change in Rick realizing that they couldn't go on ignoring and avoiding others who are trying to survive just like them.

 

[flapgreen]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

pretty sure if they spent 3 weeks having us "getting to know" the Woodbury people the complaints of a boring beginning would be a million times worse. They brought them in to show the change in Rick realizing that they couldn't go on ignoring and avoiding others who are trying to survive just like them.

Should've left them.

 

[cstu]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

pretty sure if they spent 3 weeks having us "getting to know" the Woodbury people the complaints of a boring beginning would be a million times worse. They brought them in to show the change in Rick realizing that they couldn't go on ignoring and avoiding others who are trying to survive just like them.

Should've left them.

Exactly. If I was writing it I would have had the Woodbury people vote to stay in Woodbury rather than go to the prison.

I would have left out the virus story line and sped up the zombie horde coming to the prison instead.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

pretty sure if they spent 3 weeks having us "getting to know" the Woodbury people the complaints of a boring beginning would be a million times worse. They brought them in to show the change in Rick realizing that they couldn't go on ignoring and avoiding others who are trying to survive just like them.

Should've left them.

Exactly. If I was writing it I would have had the Woodbury people vote to stay in Woodbury rather than go to the prison.

I would have left out the virus story line and sped up the zombie horde coming to the prison instead.

God I hope this is supposed to be funny.

 

[Zow]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

pretty sure if they spent 3 weeks having us "getting to know" the Woodbury people the complaints of a boring beginning would be a million times worse. They brought them in to show the change in Rick realizing that they couldn't go on ignoring and avoiding others who are trying to survive just like them.

Should've left them.

Exactly. If I was writing it I would have had the Woodbury people vote to stay in Woodbury rather than go to the prison.

I would have left out the virus story line and sped up the zombie horde coming to the prison instead.

But, as snogger pointed out, you're missing out on a major character development of the main character.

 

[cstu]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

pretty sure if they spent 3 weeks having us "getting to know" the Woodbury people the complaints of a boring beginning would be a million times worse. They brought them in to show the change in Rick realizing that they couldn't go on ignoring and avoiding others who are trying to survive just like them.

Should've left them.

Exactly. If I was writing it I would have had the Woodbury people vote to stay in Woodbury rather than go to the prison.

I would have left out the virus story line and sped up the zombie horde coming to the prison instead.

God I hope this is supposed to be funny.

I can't believe you find this virus subplot interesting in any way.

 

[cstu]

But, as snogger pointed out, you're missing out on a major character development of the main character.

You don't think 7000 zombies is enough to snap him out of being a farmer?

 

[Billy Bats]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

pretty sure if they spent 3 weeks having us "getting to know" the Woodbury people the complaints of a boring beginning would be a million times worse. They brought them in to show the change in Rick realizing that they couldn't go on ignoring and avoiding others who are trying to survive just like them.

Should've left them.

Exactly. If I was writing it I would have had the Woodbury people vote to stay in Woodbury rather than go to the prison.

I would have left out the virus story line and sped up the zombie horde coming to the prison instead.

God I hope this is supposed to be funny.

This entire thread is hysterical.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Here's why I have a problem with the start of the new season:

It basically comes down to them making a big deal about saving all the Woodbury people at the end of last season but it turns out they were simply a cheap plot device. They were only brought in so a bunch of unimportant people could be killed and force the group to leave the prison. No emotional investment, just a bunch of convenient things happening to move the plot along.

pretty sure if they spent 3 weeks having us "getting to know" the Woodbury people the complaints of a boring beginning would be a million times worse. They brought them in to show the change in Rick realizing that they couldn't go on ignoring and avoiding others who are trying to survive just like them.

Should've left them.

Exactly. If I was writing it I would have had the Woodbury people vote to stay in Woodbury rather than go to the prison.

I would have left out the virus story line and sped up the zombie horde coming to the prison instead.

They should just fight zombie hordes every show.

 

[cstu]

They should just fight zombie hordes every show.

I'm all for developing characters and was one of the few that liked the episodes on the farm. This virus story adds no drama to the show and it's completely transparent what they are trying to do. If Hershel dies from the virus he's the only character who matters to viewers who will have.

 

[flapgreen]

I really think the show is missing a guy like Shane or Merle. It was always a great struggle within the group. That's not there now and it feels kind of empty. There needs to be a major struggle between some of the main characters. The flu outbreak is OK but there needs to be more than that imo.

 

[packersfan]

Carol just murdered two people and Rick now knows about it. Could be some conflict there.

 

[Buckfast 1]

I really think the show is missing a guy like Shane or Merle. It was always a great struggle within the group. That's not there now and it feels kind of empty. There needs to be a major struggle between some of the main characters. The flu outbreak is OK but there needs to be more than that imo.

The role of the unpredictable heartless pragmatist in a post-moral zombie apocalypse is currently being played by Carol. Kind of strange and unexpected if you think about it.

 

[shadyridr]

Carol just murdered two people and Rick now knows about it. Could be some conflict there.

from ricks bad ### partner to daryls badass brother to a badass lesbian

 

[packersfan]

One of the things I like about this show is they don't introduce major plot moments and not address them later. So Carol just offing a couple of people isn't likely to just be tossed aside. I think we can reasonably assume there will be something to come from it in terms of further shaping her character, pitting her against members of the group or contributing in some fashion to whatever the overriding story arc of the season turns out to be. Or all of the above.

 

[flapgreen]

Carol just murdered two people and Rick now knows about it. Could be some conflict there.

She's not intimidating and I don't always wonder what she will do next. I don't really care what she does at anytime. When she said she killed those people, I didn't phase me any. When Shane killed Otis or tried to kill Rick, it was awesome. Merle being so unpredictable as well. Carol isn't the least bit interesting. I loved Merle and Shane. Am I alone in thinking that way? May just be me, but it's not the same with Carol, not even close.Eta: We always knew things would come to a head at some point with Merle and Shane. It was always in the back of my mind in every episode.

 

[BigJohn]

The group would be much better off with Shane around. Killing him off was a horrible move.

 

[Mario Kart]

The group would be much better off with Shane around. Killing him off was a horrible move.

Actually, Dale would be better to have around. Shane was a lunatic on the verge of Governor status.

Some need to remember this is a show about zombies. This show is giving us much needed information to how to go about life when the real zombie apocalypse begins. Let the prisoners free and take over said prison to start life over. Keep communication up. Buy generators. Buy canned goods. Keep fresh water and ration it. Alcohol is great to have not only for food qualities but for medication sterilization. Take notes people cause when the real one hits, many will act even more dumb than this group.

 

[NutterButter]

What would be your weapon of choice if put in that situation?

The samurai sword seems to be the way to go. Give me 10 people with swords and they'd plow right through that horde.

 

[VA703]

why would there be so many zombies at the town. there has to be something there that's attracting them like a zombie bunnyranch

and why did carol kill those two?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

why would there be so many zombies at the town. there has to be something there that's attracting them like a zombie bunnyranch

and why did carol kill those two?

I couldnt tell if they were walking to or from the town/ building in the background.

To prevent the disease from sprreading

 

[Disco Stu]

They should just fight zombie hordes every show.

I'm all for developing characters and was one of the few that liked the episodes on the farm. This virus story adds no drama to the show and it's completely transparent what they are trying to do. If Hershel dies from the virus he's the only character who matters to viewers who will have.

The drama the virus adds is that now the threat isn't just from the outside world. They had started to feel safe and now are faced with the reality there is no such thing as safe.

The drama of a key character (Glenn) suffering with this also adds to the sense of urgency in the mission Daryl is leading.

 

[phatdawg]

The group would be much better off with Shane around. Killing him off was a horrible move.

Actually, Dale would be better to have around. Shane was a lunatic on the verge of Governor status.

Some need to remember this is a show about zombies. This show is giving us much needed information to how to go about life when the real zombie apocalypse begins. Let the prisoners free and take over said prison to start life over. Keep communication up. Buy generators. Buy canned goods. Keep fresh water and ration it. Alcohol is great to have not only for food qualities but for medication sterilization. Take notes people cause when the real one hits, many will act even more dumb than this group.

Buy? Are you going to leave some money or IOU on the counter at the local Wal-Mart?

 

[snogger]

The group would be much better off with Shane around. Killing him off was a horrible move.

Actually, Dale would be better to have around. Shane was a lunatic on the verge of Governor status.

Some need to remember this is a show about zombies. This show is giving us much needed information to how to go about life when the real zombie apocalypse begins. Let the prisoners free and take over said prison to start life over. Keep communication up. Buy generators. Buy canned goods. Keep fresh water and ration it. Alcohol is great to have not only for food qualities but for medication sterilization. Take notes people cause when the real one hits, many will act even more dumb than this group.

Buy? Are you going to leave some money or IOU on the counter at the local Wal-Mart?

That's Mario for you.. Always thinking ahead to when things get better and covering the costs of what he uses..

 

[packersfan]

I'd honestly have no interest in watching this show if all they did was fight off walkers every episode. One of the reasons why I enjoy the show so much is it isn't just about fighting zombies. To me, that would get old real quick. Although I think the pace to the start of this season has been the weakest of the seasons to date I like the fact they're introducing other threats which show how dangerous this world has become. Each season has essentially been about introducing new conflicts of some kind (Season 1 was just surviving; Season 2 was Shane and Season 3 was The Governor). If the walkers were the only threat I don't think the show would be near as good or anywhere near as popular as it's become.

 

[phatdawg]

I'd honestly have no interest in watching this show if all they did was fight off walkers every episode. One of the reasons why I enjoy the show so much is it isn't just about fighting zombies. To me, that would get old real quick. Although I think the pace to the start of this season has been the weakest of the seasons to date I like the fact they're introducing other threats which show how dangerous this world has become. Each season has essentially been about introducing new conflicts of some kind (Season 1 was just surviving; Season 2 was Shane and Season 3 was The Governor). If the walkers were the only threat I don't think the show would be near as good or anywhere near as popular as it's become.

I agree with pretty much everything in this post. Character development is vital. Otherwise, this would be like a video game. I don't mind the threat of this virus, but I don't think the execution of the episodes has been that great.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And apparently the voice on the radio said:

Those who arrive survive.

 

[packersfan]

I'd honestly have no interest in watching this show if all they did was fight off walkers every episode. One of the reasons why I enjoy the show so much is it isn't just about fighting zombies. To me, that would get old real quick. Although I think the pace to the start of this season has been the weakest of the seasons to date I like the fact they're introducing other threats which show how dangerous this world has become. Each season has essentially been about introducing new conflicts of some kind (Season 1 was just surviving; Season 2 was Shane and Season 3 was The Governor). If the walkers were the only threat I don't think the show would be near as good or anywhere near as popular as it's become.

I agree with pretty much everything in this post. Character development is vital. Otherwise, this would be like a video game. I don't mind the threat of this virus, but I don't think the execution of the episodes has been that great.

It's felt a little slow to me but I trust things will pick up as the season goes on.

 

[(HULK)]

Wouldn't antibiotics been high on their shopping lists already? I figured they would've already tried to scrounge some up.

 

[packersfan]

Wouldn't antibiotics been high on their shopping lists already? I figured they would've already tried to scrounge some up.

Daryl said they'd been everywhere they could think of and found as much as possible.

 

[cstu]

Wouldn't antibiotics been high on their shopping lists already? I figured they would've already tried to scrounge some up.

It's also hard to imagine Woodbury didn't have a medical supply. The Governor wasn't exactly shy about going out and getting what was needed.

 

[snogger]

Wouldn't antibiotics been high on their shopping lists already? I figured they would've already tried to scrounge some up.

they have been.. They mentioned that they have searched everywhere near by but they have been cleared out.. Thus the reason to head to a Vet Clinic 50 miles away.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Again, I don't read the comics but Andrea was a major character there, right? Is it possible Carol is turning into the TV version of that character? She's become tougher and more hardened over time. I wonder if they're taking aspects of Andrea from the comics and infusing them into Carol on the show now.

It's possible. She has certainly changed considerably from season 1 and 2.

I was thinking they might kill Carol off soon but that would mean zero season 1 female characters still standing.

True, but they'd still have Michonne, Maggie and Beth (who still pines for Rick. we all know it's true). They seem to be focusing a lot of the storyline on Carol at least right now. Maybe they're giving her a strong arc before killing her off like they did (or attempted to do) with Andrea last season.

Don't forget Lori

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I'd honestly have no interest in watching this show if all they did was fight off walkers every episode. One of the reasons why I enjoy the show so much is it isn't just about fighting zombies. To me, that would get old real quick. Although I think the pace to the start of this season has been the weakest of the seasons to date I like the fact they're introducing other threats which show how dangerous this world has become. Each season has essentially been about introducing new conflicts of some kind (Season 1 was just surviving; Season 2 was Shane and Season 3 was The Governor). If the walkers were the only threat I don't think the show would be near as good or anywhere near as popular as it's become.

I agree with pretty much everything in this post. Character development is vital. Otherwise, this would be like a video game. I don't mind the threat of this virus, but I don't think the execution of the episodes has been that great.

It's felt a little slow to me but I trust things will pick up as the season goes on.

There's 13 episodes left I believe so I expect it to pick up beginning next week.