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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

My favorite part is when they left bitten leather face alone with Judith, then Rick realized he couldn't leave her alone unsupervised......wait what was that, I'll be right back and leaves her again. Lol.
While I thought it was a bad episode, you may want to get better at watching. Rick clearly goes left (door to right), bends down and gets Judith and then closes the door on the way out when Michonne yells to him. I don't mind complaints about the crappiness of this episode, but I still hate the lazy watching complaints. Enough to complain about, like that whole damn wolf scene, so bad on so many levels.Am I wrong in not understanding the Wolf's jail? He is clearly only tied up at the hands. Carol walked right down into that room as did Morgan. What was the point of locking the door to the basement when it sure seems like the Wolf could walk right up the stairs and leave the house at any time (Morgan and Carol didn't unlock the front door going in). Again, such an awful scene and setup. How was it connected to the garage that the others were in? Just lucky that they went in or did Morgan want to make sure the Wolf had a quick exit if he found the garage door and broke through it. I understand Morgan's teacher's cell as that was steel bar enclosed, but Morgan's jail cell seemed more like house arrest with an ankle bracelet and the honor system.
Grabs her and then does what exactly? You must have missed the barricade from the outside to the downstairs in your lazy watching.
What are you talking about? Deanna was upstairs and Rick went downstairs. Guess what, he likely dropped Judith in the room next door. You do realize there are other rooms and heck, a hallway upstairs, right? They dragged the two zombies upstairs and Coral put Judith under his blanket upstairs. I have no idea what you are trying to say because you are trying to prove a point and you are wrong again. Please tell me how Rick couldn't have easily dropped Judith off before going downstairs to help Michonne.

Also, are you just trying to deflect from your original comment that Rick didn't grab her and close Deanna's door? I watched it again and that was 100% clear and what you said that he left Judith with her again was 100% incorrect. Again, lazy watching.
I said, "Rick realized he couldn't leave her alone unsupervised.". The exact quote from Rick's mouth, "From now on, someone needs to be with you.". He then left both of them upstairs, alone. :lmao: :shrug:

Not sure what your angle of putting her in a separate room accomplishes, since Deanna got up and went into Judith's room in the first place.
I still don't see that as bad at all compared to the rest of the show. How else should he have handled it? He took Judith out of the room and closed the door. Obviously, there was a problem and I think Rick is a bit more important to have downstairs with the #### show that was going on. Would you have rather he stayed upstairs and told Michonne that he has to watch Deanna? Again, Rick handled it exactly the way he should have given the circumstance. When he found Deanna with Judith right before and said that, there weren't zombies all over the house. I see 0 issues with what Rick did there even after his statement, which was also correct. If it bothered you, then there is no chance you'll ever enjoy a full episode.

 
The walkers were breaking down the doors to get in the house and people downstairs were yelling for Rick's help. Yeah I'm not sure what other choices he had at that point. I didn't care much for the episode but that complaint sounds like a case of trying to find something to get upset with.

 
mr roboto said:
There comes a point where the writing and acting are so bad that you can't simply watch it for a 'fun TV show.'

Last night was that night for me. Just. #######. Terrible. I mean honestly if you think last night was legitimately a good episode of television I don't know what you would call 'bad television.'
 
kentric said:
3C said:
I want them all to die...except Eugene. Eugene all alone trying to escape/survive zombies could be good comedy.
Love how he was reading the book with the lighter. I enjoy the Eugene character.
:thumbup: Eugene fans unite. Saving the series is within his skill set :headbang:

 
playin4beer said:
why'd they stop? you've got a 30 ton truck, just keep on trucking right over the top of those stupid morans
If it had gas in it and they were shooting at a gas truck, I don't think it would have ended well for them
unless they had a bazooka or rpg, none of the small arms they have is going to penetrate that steel. worst case they do and spring a leak, its not like gas blows up from a bullet. unless you're a hollywood director, then gas blows up at the slightest irritation.

 
mr roboto said:
There comes a point where the writing and acting are so bad that you can't simply watch it for a 'fun TV show.'

Last night was that night for me. Just. #######. Terrible. I mean honestly if you think last night was legitimately a good episode of television I don't know what you would call 'bad television.'
You guys are just Tanner aliai trolling us. And your marons, to.

 
Actually there was never really any shark to jump. This show has always been sketchy. Some episodes better than others but it's not like it suffered some huge drop in quality over the years.

Oddly enough..."Happy Days" had been crappy for a few seasons before the shark episode.

 
:lmao: at this episode being the "jump the shark" episode for people.
OPM this can't be the "jump the shark" episode. The jumping of the shark was a monumentally stupid image in television. One that is memorable and signature.

This episode was so bad the "jump the shark" moment was what?

"Putting the plate in the hall"

"Glenn climbs a tree" episode?

I remember when walking dead "drew some stick figures in crayon"

" Read a book" oh that can be it

This show has really "read a book" .

"Shimmied the dumpster" is still the best one.

 
Actually there was never really any shark to jump. This show has always been sketchy. Some episodes better than others but it's not like it suffered some huge drop in quality over the years.

Oddly enough..."Happy Days" had been crappy for a few seasons before the shark episode.
Season 1 was incredible. Maybe I'm too fondly remembering it but the first episode - seeing that kind of cinematic production on TV. So much promise, getting to the CDC, finding out the truth, first characters wrestling with 'do I really want to live in this kind of world'... Granted I never, and still haven't, read the comics. But IMO there's barely enough meat on the 'will humans retain their humanity' angle for even the best written and best acted version of this. But the constant changing of rules and the very mediocre to bad acting by most, with the rinse-and-repeat plot line (wander, find new safety, new place isn't what they hoped, should we stay or take over, oh #### a horde/illness/other group, nowhere is safe!!!!!!, wander) is just too much. But... I'll probably keep watching because #### it I've gotten this far.

 
stbugs said:
I still don't see that as bad at all compared to the rest of the show. How else should he have handled it?
The walkers were breaking down the doors to get in the house and people downstairs were yelling for Rick's help. Yeah I'm not sure what other choices he had at that point.
You're right, they would have all died without Rick's uncanny ability to wedge couches in a stairway. :lmao:

 
stbugs said:
I still don't see that as bad at all compared to the rest of the show. How else should he have handled it?
The walkers were breaking down the doors to get in the house and people downstairs were yelling for Rick's help. Yeah I'm not sure what other choices he had at that point.
You're right, they would have all died without Rick's uncanny ability to wedge couches in a stairway. :lmao:
OK, keep digging at the Rick shouldn't have helped when Michonne, who didn't even know Deanna went into Judith's room, yelled for help angle. By the way, in case you missed it, there was a bit more going on downstairs before they put the couch in the stairway. Again, show was pretty bad overall, but the smiley doesn't make your criticism any better. I'll state it again, Rick did exactly what he should have and I'd be interested to know what he did wrong and what he should have done. You still haven't responded to that.

 
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Weak episode, especially for a "finale". Even the wife, who absolutely loves the show, was disappointed.

I am not disappointed, however, in the usual suspects here trolling about. There's now at least 4 of you that get scrolled by in this thread. :)

 
stbugs said:
I still don't see that as bad at all compared to the rest of the show. How else should he have handled it?
The walkers were breaking down the doors to get in the house and people downstairs were yelling for Rick's help. Yeah I'm not sure what other choices he had at that point.
You're right, they would have all died without Rick's uncanny ability to wedge couches in a stairway. :lmao:
Which isn't the point. You were criticizing something Rick did that, within the context of the script, made perfect sense. You weren't being critical of Rick's ability to protect the group.

Again, this was not a good episode and a very weak mid-season finale. Easily the weakest in series history. But there is often a lot of people trying to find things to get upset worth or be critical of that even in weaker episodes like this aren't strong criticisms at all. In my opinion, your example would be one of those.

 
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm losing interest. Just a bit. Was NOT a good mid-season finale. Not on par with previous seasons, that is for sure. They really need to come back in February and pick it up.....A LOT.

 
playin4beer said:
why'd they stop? you've got a 30 ton truck, just keep on trucking right over the top of those stupid morans
They are obviously stupid as hell. Really Sasha? Who's guns are they? so god awful that she doesn't know its a robbery.

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If only Sasha, Daryll and Abraham had the experience to get ambushed and drive through it to get away. Or if they had automatic rifles or perhaps some sort of rocket launcher that they could get out of the truck with.

 
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Never thought I'd say this, but I'm losing interest. Just a bit. Was NOT a good mid-season finale. Not on par with previous seasons, that is for sure. They really need to come back in February and pick it up.....A LOT.
This is the most disappointing aspect. I loved the show and defended it it has gone in the crapper. I think the big cliff hanger is Kneegen, which is a stupid name. Problem seems to be they assume the audience reads comic books and that is supposed to be a major cliffhanger.

I don't know who Negan is, and in context he is just the next guy Rick is going to kill so not thrilling to someone with no comics background. I wouldn't know who Kneegen is except for this thread.

 
playin4beer said:
why'd they stop? you've got a 30 ton truck, just keep on trucking right over the top of those stupid morans
They are obviously stupid as hell. Really Sasha? Who's guns are they? so god awful that she doesn't know its a robbery.

.

If only Sasha, Daryll and Abraham had the experience to get ambushed and drive through it to get away. Or if they had automatic rifles or perhaps some sort of rocket launcher that they could get out of the truck with.
come to think of it, the ONLY way these characters would stop based on past performance, is if the writers forced them to. which they did apparently.

 
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm losing interest. Just a bit. Was NOT a good mid-season finale. Not on par with previous seasons, that is for sure. They really need to come back in February and pick it up.....A LOT.
This is the most disappointing aspect. I loved the show and defended it it has gone in the crapper. I think the big cliff hanger is Kneegen, which is a stupid name. Problem seems to be they assume the audience reads comic books and that is supposed to be a major cliffhanger.

I don't know who Negan is, and in context he is just the next guy Rick is going to kill so not thrilling to someone with no comics background. I wouldn't know who Kneegen is except for this thread.
Negan

<Major Spoilers>

 
Did anyone catch what Ron said after Carl told Rick everything was ok at the couch? I couldn't make it out.
It was something like;

Mom: it sounded like you were yelling

Ron: yeah, yelling that the walkers were breaking in.

Mom: oh ok...nevermind.

Just another scene where a discussion really wasn't priority at that moment but the writers thought it necessary for some reason.

 
snogger said:
flapgreen said:
Terrible mid-season finale. Where is the big cliffhanger that's going to keep me thinking about it through the break? What a bore
The kid still being an idiot and yelling "MOM?!?!?!?" Which will draw attention from the walkers..

Maggie stuck on a platform with Glen and Enid watching helplessly from a tree..

The Wolf taking the Doctor to where?? Are the wolves possibly part of Negan's group.. or a off shoot of them and he will no return with information for Negan??

Where is Abraham and Daryl??

Sure, not HUGE cliff hangers.. but seems like plenty to think/talk about. :shrug:
I don't know if stuff discussed on TD counts as spoilers, but just in case:

Kirkman specifically said wolves and Neegan's group are 2 separate groups. Said that should become more clear going forward.

The prologue gave a little hint into the Daryl/Abraham stuff, and Kirkman also confirmed that it was Eugene's voice saying "Help" over the radio that Daryl (?) heard, helping align the timelines of the various episodes this season. Basically, everything in this half-season happened in just a few days - from the herd getting out of the quarry through to this final episode, they all overlap in real-time.
And non-spoiler, for those complaining about Zombie guts and why they aren't used more often, here are a few reasons (some from Kirkman on TD, but not really spoilers)

  • unsanitary - yes, everyone is infected with the zombie virus, but human remains are not exactly good to just wear around
  • can dry out, get washed off - they don't last a long time, as was demonstrated in one of the other episodes where they did this, I think the rain washed it off - if you are in the wrong spot when that happens, you're dead
  • extremely risky - one wrong sound (Mom, mom...) or action, and you are zombie food - seems like a last resort kind of thing to do
 
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Never thought I'd say this, but I'm losing interest. Just a bit. Was NOT a good mid-season finale. Not on par with previous seasons, that is for sure. They really need to come back in February and pick it up.....A LOT.
I've done more clock watching this season than the previous five combined. The last few episodes have been very underwhelming. This has been a great show in my opinion for five seasons and the start of this season was really good so I'm not losing interest. But I agree things really need to pick up in the second half.

 
Did anyone catch what Ron said after Carl told Rick everything was ok at the couch? I couldn't make it out.
It was something like;

Mom: it sounded like you were yelling

Ron: yeah, yelling that the walkers were breaking in.

Mom: oh ok...nevermind.

Just another scene where a discussion really wasn't priority at that moment but the writers thought it necessary for some reason.
It may not have been a priority but I think it was important to show that Rick and Mrs. PorchDick knew something was up but Carl didn't wanna put Ron in danger like that. Rick probably would've offed him if he knew the truth. I thought last night's episode was a pretty good one for Carl all things considered.

 
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm losing interest. Just a bit. Was NOT a good mid-season finale. Not on par with previous seasons, that is for sure. They really need to come back in February and pick it up.....A LOT.
I've done more clock watching this season than the previous five combined. The last few episodes have been very underwhelming. This has been a great show in my opinion for five seasons and the start of this season was really good so I'm not losing interest. But I agree things really need to pick up in the second half.
I'm guessing with the "Mom, Mom" from the kid, that ####'s about to go down with that group.

In the comics, that scene is where Jessie and Ron get eaten, and Carl loses his eye... I'm betting the "Mom, Mom" will at least be the cause of Sam and Jessie being eaten.
 

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