***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (5 Viewers)

[DaVinci]

Fire lake would be good as a distraction, but horrible as a means of destruction.  As soon as the zombies go underwater, the fire goes out.  Zombies don't drown, so there should be a few hundred zombies wandering around the bottom of the lake who could pop back up at any moment.

Also, what a waste of an RPG.  Would hitting the water even cause it to explode?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Some of you people just need to watch a different show. 

 

[ghostguy123]

Fire lake would be good as a distraction, but horrible as a means of destruction.  As soon as the zombies go underwater, the fire goes out.  Zombies don't drown, so there should be a few hundred zombies wandering around the bottom of the lake who could pop back up at any moment.

Also, what a waste of an RPG.  Would hitting the water even cause it to explode?

I initially thought they would set the fire (with a LIGHTER), and when the walkers were all at the lake then Daryl could light em up with the RPG.  Not start a gasoline fire with an RPG.   Waste of an RPG.  CMon Daryl.

I guess he was on cloud 9 from his original blast of those biker clowns.  And huge props for that by the way.  That biker dude who was talking was a doofus.  I was thinking he was going to end up being a big part of this season for that group.  Nope.  BOOM!!

 

[ghostguy123]

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/mysterious-car-spotted-background-important-044708803.html

How in God's name did someone see that while watching the show???

Though chances are someone was "tipped off" to do so. 

 

[pantherclub]

The whole "crew take on zombies" at the end was just lollerific. So effing stupid. At the very beginning you couldnt even walk there were so many now 5 or so people are taking them out left and right.

Also stupid was that the Glenn was backed against the wall and the last shot of him were dozens of zombies collapsing on him but then automatic gun fire took out them all but missed Glenn. Sheeeet thats bad.

That episode was way too cartoonish and nothing made sense. I mean how ####### big was the city where they were just walking for hours it seemed and didnt really get anywhere? I could go on and on but damn this show has been the disappointment for me.

 

[Sinrman]

I have to admit, this past episode seemed like jumping the shark with the whole Daryl-RPG thing.  Really?  Actually BOTH scenes with it.  And the "lake of fire"?  Also, Glenn and his nine lives.  He's inches from getting eaten (AGAIN) and in comes the cavalry, mowing down all the zombies in front yet missing him.  OK!

I guess they have trimmed the fat a little by killing off Sam (thank GOD) and his mom.  At first, I was like "DAMN, her too?"  But if you think about it, she had a natural reaction to her kid dying right in front of her and well................

 

[ghostguy123]

No way zombies are real.  No way.

I was watching Jaws the other day.  No way a shark would attack a boat like that.  No way the guy shoots the air tank.  No way.  Worst movie ever made, easily.

 

[Psychopav]

So...why can't I see the list of ffa topics on my android device? 

And lol at this thread.  Good stuff.

 

[comfortably numb]

No way zombies are real.  No way.

I was watching Jaws the other day.  No way a shark would attack a boat like that.  No way the guy shoots the air tank.  No way.  Worst movie ever made, easily.

I still don't get this sentiment.

I've said many times before. Game of Thrones has fire breathing dragons, 13' tall ogres and skeletons that rise from the dead and handle swords. They are able to put together very good scripts and character development without the unbelievable eye rolling moment every 3 scenes.

I gave up on the show after the Glen dumpster shimmy but enjoy it more now that I just follow you guys here.

 

[jamny]

There were still a bunch of insignificant townspeople left. They could have at least lost a few of them to the walkers in the melee instead of making it seem like a walk in the park to slaughter a thousand zombies. One walker can surprise them in the middle of the woods and bite someone but hundreds and hundreds fail to even get one chomp down. At one point, Rick was just pushing them down and that would be the end of them.

 

[snogger]

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/mysterious-car-spotted-background-important-044708803.html

How in God's name did someone see that while watching the show???

Though chances are someone was "tipped off" to do so. 

I'm sure the "Fan" was a writer/producer.. Works out better if it seems to come from a Fan then someone involved with the show.

And if that was Negan.. for Daryl, Abraham and Sasha..

Something tells me due to Glenn being all but dead twice this season that he is going to survive the meeting with Negan..

 

[Jayrok]

Fun episode.  Yes, we didn't see the RPG flying at the biker gang.  And the gang sitting there with a unobstructed view of Daryl fighting the other dude, but didn't see anything.   So what?  The explosion was awesome.   So was Abe's saving of Glenn from atop the fence.  

In the previous episode the old woman asked Michonne what she wanted...  Michonne wants Rick, Carl and Judith for her own.  Now that Mrs. porchdick is out of the picture, she'll have them.  

 

[snogger]

Fun episode.  Yes, we didn't see the RPG flying at the biker gang.  And the gang sitting there with a unobstructed view of Daryl fighting the other dude, but didn't see anything.   So what?  The explosion was awesome.   So was Abe's saving of Glenn from atop the fence.  

In the previous episode the old woman asked Michonne what she wanted...  Michonne wants Rick, Carl and Judith for her own.  Now that Mrs. porchdick is out of the picture, she'll have them.  

I don't have an issue with them not seeing Daryl.. They have probably done this a hundred times without issues so they have become complacent to people doing as they are told. They were focused on the mouthy one about to shoot Sasha, Abraham, or both at the time Daryl shoots the RPG..

And as mentioned elsewhere in the thread.. had they drove through the Bikers in the Mid-season Finale we never would have gotten that satisfying end to the Bikers.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I still don't get this sentiment.

I've said many times before. Game of Thrones has fire breathing dragons, 13' tall ogres and skeletons that rise from the dead and handle swords. They are able to put together very good scripts and character development without the unbelievable eye rolling moment every 3 scenes.

I gave up on the show after the Glen dumpster shimmy but enjoy it more now that I just follow you guys here.

This is where I am.  I thought Sunday's episode was among the very worst of the franchise.  At this point, I'm mainly watching DVRed episodes when I get around to it, partly just to keep up on this thread.  I'm still hopeful they can turn this around, but I feel like this franchise has crossed over into late-run X-Files territory now.  

 

[stbugs]

I don't have an issue with them not seeing Daryl.. They have probably done this a hundred times without issues so they have become complacent to people doing as they are told. They were focused on the mouthy one about to shoot Sasha, Abraham, or both at the time Daryl shoots the RPG..

And as mentioned elsewhere in the thread.. had they drove through the Bikers in the Mid-season Finale we never would have gotten that satisfying end to the Bikers.

I didn't either. As you said, they've done this tons of times and Sasha and Abe kept them busy. Pretty sure they were likely thinking Daryl's been gone a bit, let's keep them busy as well. If people weren't thinking RPG based on Abe finding it and based on Daryl disappearing, then you need a lesson in foreshadowing. I still am amazed at people thinking that scene was silly. Daryl likely took that guy out quickly and got ready to shoot. He likely heard the guy say that he was going to shoot and just fired. I linked a video of an 8 year old firing an RPG after about 30 seconds of instructions from two guys. If an 8 year old can do that, Daryl will have no issues at all.

 

[stbugs]

I initially thought they would set the fire (with a LIGHTER), and when the walkers were all at the lake then Daryl could light em up with the RPG.  Not start a gasoline fire with an RPG.   Waste of an RPG.  CMon Daryl.

I guess he was on cloud 9 from his original blast of those biker clowns.  And huge props for that by the way.  That biker dude who was talking was a doofus.  I was thinking he was going to end up being a big part of this season for that group.  Nope.  BOOM!!

Surprised no one mentioned it, but a fire behind zombies isn't going to turn them around. They need an actual distraction to turn them say like a loud explosion. That is why Daryl used the RPG. Not just to light the fire, but to provide a sound that would turn them around. If they are wandering and see a fire, they will go to it, but they needed an explosion to turn them around.

 

[JoeSteeler]

I feel like a lot of people forget this was based on a comic book. This series is basically a comic book but on a TV screen, and (for the most Part) that is all it will ever be. If you are looking for more than that, it is probably best to look elsewhere.

As I stated earlier in the thread, it will never be anything close to the Wire, Breaking bad or Fargo and that is fine with me and about 12 million other people.

my 2¢

 

[Copeman]

Why didn't the sound of Abe's and Sasha's guns make the walkers near the main group turn around?  If you do it one instance, you have to be consistent in others.

 

[stbugs]

This is the one time that I have ever been bothered by something in this show.  If it is that simple, why not just set fires in random places so that Zombies kill themselves by walking into fire. 

How is this so hard? We've seen them distracted by fires, hence the burning zombies when they were on the way to Terminus. I am sure there are many other cases, just remember that one where they were drawn to it. Also, I know people keep saying Daryl wasted an RPG, but how do you think he got them to turn around? A simple fire has no real sound that will distract a zombie, it has to be in their field of vision (or at least a few as they seem to notice when others are distracted). The RPG provided the huge sound that caused them to turn around.

Ok, lets talk about this Lake of Fire... one of the only thing that kills zombies (fire) also attracts them like a moth to a flame... even away from potential fresh meat?  Really?!? 

Yes, zombies aren't smart, they have no memories. As soon as they are distracted they are likely to forget whatever was distracting them before. Also, again, the explosion is what turned them around and unless the fresh meat smells enough (no blood oozing out everywhere), they will forget the fresh meat.

 

[sdp1226]

I don't disagree with much of the criticism but I still found the episode to be very entertaining. Glad the show is back.

 

[stbugs]

Why didn't the sound of Abe's and Sasha's guns make the walkers near the main group turn around?  If you do it one instance, you have to be consistent in others.

It probably did distract some a bit, but not all. Also, after the initial shots, the fighting still going on could easily have distracted them back. There were zombies all over the place. That said, an RPG explosion is likely a lot louder and was also a lot closer to the zombies. Daryl drove the tanker truck into the neighborhood. Again, I don't see any inconsistencies with what we saw. Is there anything in the scenes you saw that showed the inconsistency, i.e. zombies seemingly ignoring any noises?

 

[Jayrok]

I don't disagree with much of the criticism but I still found the episode to be very entertaining. Glad the show is back.

Also glad it's back.  Criticisms smiticisms..  if you aren't entertained, then find another show.  I watched many of the episodes leading up to this one.  Good fun to fill a cold Sunday afternoon.  

 

[James Daulton]

So in hindsight, the better plan would have been to burn all the walkers with gas while they were contained in the quarry vs leading them all out right past your new home.

I want to hate on Rick but when he went all postal on the swarm of zombies with only an ax, I couldn't help but 

 

[roadkill1292]

Enjoyed the opener very much.

 

[[icon]]

I thought we finally got rid of carl...

 

[stbugs]

I feel like a lot of people forget this was based on a comic book. This series is basically a comic book but on a TV screen, and (for the most Part) that is all it will ever be. If you are looking for more than that, it is probably best to look elsewhere.

As I stated earlier in the thread, it will never be anything close to the Wire, Breaking bad or Fargo and that is fine with me and about 12 million other people.

my 2¢

I can agree with this. This is not a cop show based on being in our current world we all live in right now. I don't think that that means that some there is a free for all, but distracting zombies with an explosion and large fire is well within the realm off reason-ability. I didn't particularly like the shooting at Glenn, but I also understand that he was going to survive like Sasha, Abe and Daryl were going to survive, but also bring Negan into the show.

That said, I am amazed a bit at the hate of this episode when so many of us really enjoyed it.

 

[Copeman]

It probably did distract some a bit, but not all. Also, after the initial shots, the fighting still going on could easily have distracted them back. There were zombies all over the place. That said, an RPG explosion is likely a lot louder and was also a lot closer to the zombies. Daryl drove the tanker truck into the neighborhood. Again, I don't see any inconsistencies with what we saw. Is there anything in the scenes you saw that showed the inconsistency, i.e. zombies seemingly ignoring any noises?

You can try to explain anything in the show.  Maybe the walkers heard the gunfire, but then got distracted and started attacking the group again?  Maybe this...maybe that, but then you have this, and then that....

 All speculation.  My point is that the show itself needs to show something happen if the same thing has happened before.  Be consistent.  If gunfire (one bullet that hit Carl) distracts the zombies, then multiple gunfire needs to have the same affect, and they should have showed it. Instead, they showed no effect and the zombies kept coming after the group.

I'm a huge fan of the show, and will never stop watching.  But while this episode was entertaining, there were many scratch your head moments, most of which has been stated here. Sure, you can try to dismiss them and make a cover story of what really happened, but most of see the errors and just shrug our heads.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

That said, I am amazed a bit at the hate of this episode when so many of us really enjoyed it.

There have always been two types of people watching this show.  One group wants to see an action show with lots of zombies and lots of deaths.  The other group wants to see something more character-driven and slower-paced.  Season Two was skewed strongly toward the second audience.  It's now skewed strongly toward the first.   

 

[snogger]

There have always been two types of people watching this show.  One group wants to see an action show with lots of zombies and lots of deaths.  The other group wants to see something more character-driven and slower-paced.  Season Two was skewed strongly toward the second audience.  It's now skewed strongly toward the first.   

except the first part of this season was mainly character driven/ Slower plot.. heck the entire first half happens over just 2 or 3 days.. and there were just as many haters, if not more, compared to those not liking the episodes..

 

[packersfan]

Fantastic episode. One of the best in the show's history. 

 

[IvanKaramazov]

except the first part of this season was mainly character driven/ Slower plot.. heck the entire first half happens over just 2 or 3 days.. and there were just as many haters, if not more, compared to those not liking the episodes..

Yeah, I know.  I liked the first part of the season a lot.  The last handful of episodes, not so much.  

Just pointing out that different people come to this with different preferences.

 

[tonydead]

No way zombies are real.  No way.

I was watching Jaws the other day.  No way a shark would attack a boat like that.  No way the guy shoots the air tank.  No way.  Worst movie ever made, easily.

Not sure what any of that has to do with TWD, but, if you care to google sharks attacking boat or oxygen tanks exploding when shot you will find that both of those things are very real.

 

[snogger]

Yeah, I know.  I liked the first part of the season a lot.  The last handful of episodes, not so much.  

Just pointing out that different people come to this with different preferences.

I recall all the ranting over 24  The "Put up a perimeter that never worked" was probably the most notorious moments.. yet if the perimeter had worked then the entertaining part of the show doesn't continue and so you just needed to let it go.. But many couldn't..

Same here.. People were ranting over the Mid-Season finale when Daryl didn't just gun it over the bikers.. But this weeks episode would have lost a lot of POP had he done so..At the end of the day I'm watching most T.V. shows to be entertained.. and if after an hour I feel I was entertained then I'm good..

I was one of the main "haters" of the Morgan episode as I was bored beyond belief and basically tuned out more than half of the episode.. But yet many here loved it to to them I say .. good for you, but not my cup of tea and moved on..

 

[whoknew]

There have always been two types of people watching this show.  One group wants to see an action show with lots of zombies and lots of deaths.  The other group wants to see something more character-driven and slower-paced.  Season Two was skewed strongly toward the second audience.  It's now skewed strongly toward the first.   

I'm firmly in the "Lets kill zombies" camp. And part of that is because I think there are MUCH better shows to see slow, character driven dramas. I love Rectify - think its one of the best shows on TV. But that's just not what I look for in TWD. TWD is good for just sitting back and watching people kill zombies and sometimes each other. Good, mindless fun.

To each his own, I reckon.

 

[Buckna]

Not sure what any of that has to do with TWD, but, if you care to google sharks attacking boat or oxygen tanks exploding when shot you will find that both of those things are very real.

Never watched the "Jaws" MythBusters episode, have you?

 

[El Floppo]

Ok- it was fun seeing the RPG and it was worthwhile story-wise to get through the horde invasion quickly, but...

- Darryl fights with a guy and kills him, leaving his body in plain sight to the gang of biker guys facing his direction- which implies that the fight took place in the same spot. and THEN grabs, aims and shoots an RPG at them while they all sit there quietly. Minor quibble- no track to the RPG... just an explosion that seemed to come out of nowhere. When we first saw this confrontation last episode, it seemed pretty clear the RPG was there for a reason. "nibble on that" was a great line.

- the whole meat-parka stroll... one second they're all talking, the next they're not- no interest from the zombies. sam and his doofus inbred mormon haircut says one thing- seemingly at the same sound level as their previous conversations- and gets devoured? but the others don't. until mom starts screaming... and the others are whispering/talking... but she gets attacked. 

- the whole slo-mo black background montage of individual people vs zombie kill shots looked terrible, IMO. like something from a bad play made into a bad tv show. cheap and heavy-handed.

- wolf and doctor use the pick and roll technique on the zombies to avoid getting grabbed. carol's gunshot doesn't seem to distract them. doctor's discussion with the wolf after he's shot doesn't either. wala... they make it back to the infirmary. 

- doctor puts some pressure on coral's eye... all good.

- rick goes crazy again and runs out in the horde... because coral is maybe dead. #### judith though. (btw- hatchet is the perfect zombie killer) ok... they all avoid getting bit, despite using short knives... whatever- get's the job done of telling the story of clearing the horde and uniting the two factions, so fine.

- with all the gunshots and screaming, the zombies decide to attack maggie's inert scaffold? ok. the scaffold enid is able to access from somewhere other than the ladder (escape route for maggie). ok.

- remember when zombies getting shot did nothing to stop them until the fatal head-shot? glen is surrounded- AGAIN- but thank goodness for machine gun carnage... head-shot-palooza. but PHEW... glen doesn't get bitten or shot. 

- flammable lake needs an RPG to light it? can't just throw a match or lighter?

all of that made the episode more laugh/groan-filled than "amazing" to me. I get that it pushed the story-arc forward... so whatever. I'll still watch, because I enjoy the overall story arc, love post-apocolyptic things, and when it works it brings some interesting discussion/thought about morality and humanity. 

 

[Buckna]

There have always been two types of people watching this show.  One group wants to see an action show with lots of zombies and lots of deaths.  The other group wants to see something more character-driven and slower-paced.  Season Two was skewed strongly toward the second audience.  It's now skewed strongly toward the first.   

A show this popular with this many people watching is never going to please everyone with every episode of course. I don't think most people mind the schtick posts like who is mowing the grass or Lori is not really dead, but its been a running theme in these threads since the show first started that there are a lot of posters that come in here and just poop all over almost every episode.

Of course, I could say the same thing about the Lost thread or any number of other popular tv show threads on this board.

 

[shadyridr]

Never realized how many hipsters posted here

 

[El Floppo]

There have always been two types of people watching this show.  One group wants to see an action show with lots of zombies and lots of deaths.  The other group wants to see something more character-driven and slower-paced.  Season Two was skewed strongly toward the second audience.  It's now skewed strongly toward the first.   

I like both... but I want the action to make sense. 

I loved when they went through the prison clearing it out. 

 

[mozzy84]

rewatched last night. By far one of the best of the series imo.

 

[Power Monster]

Thought that the "No Way Out" episode was one of the best. It had it all. I about rolled onto the floor when the biker gang was blown up. Watched with anticipation knowing that Sam was going down any second. He should have just slathered mustard and relish on his skull. Shocked to see the rest of the family go to the buffet table. But the best part was by far the epic battle when Rick grabbed the axe and the survivors opened up. It was great.

Loved when the priest started whipping some ###. Yeah the Glenn save was a bit over the top but it was entertaining. Loved the Goodfellas montage they produced with each character. It was like the comic book just jumped off the pages. Great vision. Hard to top.

In the long run, they can only kill off popular characters or introduce new characters that have the ability to pull in the audience. Major characters will end when the actor contracts are not renewed.  

 

[snogger]

Thought that the "No Way Out" episode was one of the best. It had it all. I about rolled onto the floor when the biker gang was blown up. Watched with anticipation knowing that Sam was going down any second. He should have just slathered mustard and relish on his skull. Shocked to see the rest of the family go to the buffet table. But the best part was by far the epic battle when Rick grabbed the axe and the survivors opened up. It was great.

Loved when the priest started whipping some ###. Yeah the Glenn save was a bit over the top but it was entertaining. Loved the Goodfellas montage they produced with each character. It was like the comic book just jumped off the pages. Great vision. Hard to top.

In the long run, they can only kill off popular characters or introduce new characters that have the ability to pull in the audience. Major characters will end when the actor contracts are not renewed.  

That's why I loved the Montage.. It was as if the Comic Book came to life

As for the "Major Characters to be killed off".. It's coming.. Just unknown at this time who..... The going bets are either Glenn or Daryl.. I just don't see Carol or Michonne "biting it" right now.. And others like Abraham, Sasha, etc.. aren't, IMO, in the "Major" category just yet..

Glenn has been "saved" twice now so having them actually finish the job this time just seems overkill .. so Daryl might be the one..

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Yes, really

I guess the apocalypse is over then.  I mean they ought to be able to clean up and dispose of these critters in no time now that they have this knowledge.  They will herd themselves to their own demise.

 

[jamny]

Exactly. If they can wipe out that many so easily they should never fear the walkers again. And I'm sure they'll always have a zombie gut poncho nearby for when they go out on patrols and such.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Ok- it was fun seeing the RPG and it was worthwhile story-wise to get through the horde invasion quickly, but...

- Darryl fights with a guy and kills him, leaving his body in plain sight to the gang of biker guys facing his direction- which implies that the fight took place in the same spot. and THEN grabs, aims and shoots an RPG at them while they all sit there quietly. Minor quibble- no track to the RPG... just an explosion that seemed to come out of nowhere. When we first saw this confrontation last episode, it seemed pretty clear the RPG was there for a reason. "nibble on that" was a great line.

- the whole meat-parka stroll... one second they're all talking, the next they're not- no interest from the zombies. sam and his doofus inbred mormon haircut says one thing- seemingly at the same sound level as their previous conversations- and gets devoured? but the others don't. until mom starts screaming... and the others are whispering/talking... but she gets attacked. 

- the whole slo-mo black background montage of individual people vs zombie kill shots looked terrible, IMO. like something from a bad play made into a bad tv show. cheap and heavy-handed.

- wolf and doctor use the pick and roll technique on the zombies to avoid getting grabbed. carol's gunshot doesn't seem to distract them. doctor's discussion with the wolf after he's shot doesn't either. wala... they make it back to the infirmary. 

- doctor puts some pressure on coral's eye... all good.

- rick goes crazy again and runs out in the horde... because coral is maybe dead. #### judith though. (btw- hatchet is the perfect zombie killer) ok... they all avoid getting bit, despite using short knives... whatever- get's the job done of telling the story of clearing the horde and uniting the two factions, so fine.

- with all the gunshots and screaming, the zombies decide to attack maggie's inert scaffold? ok. the scaffold enid is able to access from somewhere other than the ladder (escape route for maggie). ok.

- remember when zombies getting shot did nothing to stop them until the fatal head-shot? glen is surrounded- AGAIN- but thank goodness for machine gun carnage... head-shot-palooza. but PHEW... glen doesn't get bitten or shot. 

- flammable lake needs an RPG to light it? can't just throw a match or lighter?

all of that made the episode more laugh/groan-filled than "amazing" to me. I get that it pushed the story-arc forward... so whatever. I'll still watch, because I enjoy the overall story arc, love post-apocolyptic things, and when it works it brings some interesting discussion/thought about morality and humanity. 

Yeah, this episode was even more cartoonish than usual. 

 

[Loan Sharks]

I did like Sam thinking about what Carol said to him before he lost it. I would have liked more of a Sam freakout before they ate him. It was a little lame that he just stopped walking and they chomped him. 

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I did like Sam thinking about what Carol said to him before he lost it. I would have liked more of a Sam freakout before they ate him. It was a little lame that he just stopped walking and they chomped him. 

I wish Sam could have died a much slower and painful death.    Sam should have been chucked over the wall sometime last season.

 

[Power Monster]

Overall, its not the zombies that will do them in. It will be the other survivor gangs.

 

[packersfan]

Overall, its not the zombies that will do them in. It will be the other survivor gangs.

Other people have always been the greatest threat on this show.

However, I really enjoyed seeing a full-blown human vs. walker war for the first time. 

 

[Copeman]

It's just hard knowing no one died during that whole Rage on the Walkers battle.  All of a sudden Eugene, Gabriel, and other Alexandrians turned into zombie killing machines.   Hard to buy as a viewer.