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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

TLEF316 said:
If I'm Negan at this point, I'm cutting my losses and wiping their whole crew out (especially when I get back to the sanctuary and find out Daryl is gone and killed someone on the way out). The security risk Alexandria presents and the resources he needs to spend managing them far outweighs any resources they're providing (especially with their numbers dwindling and the ever-decreasing amount of supplies to be found in the surrounding area)

He's got seemingly hundreds of people working directly for him (plus several other communities working on his behalf without any hiccups) and he's seriously going to allow a group that tried to kill him twice in a day to stay alive? Sorry, not buying that all. Just turn Alexandria into an outpost, put someone you trust in charge and let them scavenge the surrounding area instead.

This is post-apocalyptic warlord 101 stuff. 
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Perfect way to end the whole series there. 

 
TLEF316 said:
They're clearly not ready to do that (the thing is still a cash cow I'm sure) but I would LOVE it if they ended the season on a really negative note like that. Would be awesome.
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Would end any chance for the coming war.  That would be it.  No one wants that.  It's coming. 

 
Does anyone think that one guy who was talking to Carol and Morgan, that he might have originally been from that city with all women who had all their men killed?  It seemed like he was holding back.   I'm thinking he might have survived from there and end up uniting the communities against Negan.

 
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Where are all the hordes now?  Are they all dead dead?  Wouldn't they be roaming around attracted by the Neegan and his 5k followers? 

 
Niles Standish said:
Happy Negan finally killed a few Alexandrians.  He's still a bit hard to buy as this great villain for me since he seems to let a lot go.  Apparently if you try and kill Negan and fail you are not going to be punished in any real way.  It looks like all of the Alexandrians other than Aaron and maybe Heath will be killed during the inevitable war.  I'm assuming not a single member of Rick's pre-Alexandria group will be killed.
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It almost seems like Neegan wants Rick and his crew to fight back.  

How many of us quietly cheered when we found Spencer's guts?

 
Not bad, but not great mid-season finale.. This season, at least the first half,  would probably be much better watched streaming rather then weekly.. just too much build up to the upcoming war...

I get the reasoning behind leaving Rosita alive...
Show her, and others, that if you try to attack Negan, you'll live but someone else will pay the price.
By doing so you are not only making the person that tried to take you out "suffer", but to others you are saying "Who are you willing to watch die if you fail?"

Saying that, a better story line IMO would have been for them to take her back to the Sanctuary with Eugene... Keep them both alive and keep others wondering what is happening to them and what will happen to you if you fail.

Father Gabriel has become one of my favorite characters.. the fake burial of Maggie, the talk with Spencer and Rosita has built him into a interesting character to watch.

Carol has moved into that "annoying" character now for me.. . Assuming they are building it up to her becoming the Kings love and she'll turn back to the Carol we all like...
But until then I could do with less of seeing the same thing each week from her. "Just leave me alone" ... fine :bye:

Liked the group heading to the School House at the end, where I assume they are going to tell Gregory "your ruling days are over!"

And of course the writers have left one thing for us to wonder about.. Who is "Boots"??
A loner looking for a community to join?
A spy for Negan?
A spy for another community who is looking to fight Negan?
or is he from a completely different group who will become yet another antagonist of the main group?

 
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I thought it was a decent episode.  No cliff hanger but at least we know they are ready to stop groveling and start fighting back.  Ready to see Jesus introduce Rick to Ezekiel and get the ball rolling.

The pool game scene in the streets was good.  "I couldn't have been more wrong.. turns out you do have guts, Spencer."  Although, there's no way Negan would leave and not take Rosita with him.  I can see him not killing her there, but no way does he leave her in Alexandria.  

I guess Michonne's speech to Rick was supposed to persuade him to fight, but I think he was already there.  He was just standing there staring at the hatchet and that piece of paper.  I thought he was going to say "I'm way ahead of you."  

The season hasn't been as good up to this point, but I'm looking forward to how it unfolds in the second half.  

 
snogger said:
Carol has moved into that "annoying" character now for me.. . Assuming they are building it up to her becoming the Kings love and she'll turn back to the Carol we all like...
But until then I could do with less of seeing the same thing each week from her. "Just leave me alone" ... fine :bye:
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I think Carol will change her mind and come around when she hears Glenn and Abraham were murdered by the leader of the Saviors.  So far she has no dog in the fight but she doesn't know about the Lucille lineup, or that Maggie's preggo with Glenn's baby.  

 
Jayrok said:
snogger said:
Carol has moved into that "annoying" character now for me.. . Assuming they are building it up to her becoming the Kings love and she'll turn back to the Carol we all like...
But until then I could do with less of seeing the same thing each week from her. "Just leave me alone" ... fine :bye:
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I think Carol will change her mind and come around when she hears Glenn and Abraham were murdered by the leader of the Saviors.  So far she has no dog in the fight but she doesn't know about the Lucille lineup, or that Maggie's preggo with Glenn's baby.
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Agreed that something will trigger the Carol we've come to like to return.. :thumbup:

But, much like the build up of this first half of the season, they are taking a long time to get there.

 
RE:  The guy in the boots spying on Rick and Alexandria.  I think it might be the same guy from the kingdom who talked to Carol and Morgan about getting Ezekiel to fight the Saviors.  They showed him in that small hidden trailer for no reason except his meltdown.  He feels alone in his quest to fight back.  Maybe while he was out he saw Rick and Aaron at the lake and followed the truck to Alexandria.  Now he wonders if they are a group he can join to fight.  Rick's group right now are in the same mindset as him.  I don't remember Carol or Morgan mentioned Alexandria to anyone, so he may not know whether Alexandria is also serving the saviors or an outpost for them.   

 
Jayrok said:
RE:  The guy in the boots spying on Rick and Alexandria.  I think it might be the same guy from the kingdom who talked to Carol and Morgan about getting Ezekiel to fight the Saviors.  They showed him in that small hidden trailer for no reason except his meltdown.  He feels alone in his quest to fight back.  Maybe while he was out he saw Rick and Aaron at the lake and followed the truck to Alexandria.  Now he wonders if they are a group he can join to fight.  Rick's group right now are in the same mindset as him.  I don't remember Carol or Morgan mentioned Alexandria to anyone, so he may not know whether Alexandria is also serving the saviors or an outpost for them.   
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I thought it was him too 

 
They are hinting that boots guy is a new and different group. Maybe the houseboat is their bait car to loot people who would loot others. They allow some things to be stolen so that they might follow them back to their base.

 
snogger said:
And of course the writers have left one thing for us to wonder about.. Who is "Boots"??

A loner looking for a community to join?
A spy for Negan?
A spy for another community who is looking to fight Negan?
or is he from a completely different group who will become yet another antagonist of the main group?
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I think it's the neighbor from Home Improvement.  Thought it was particularly cheesy that Negan looked at the casing from the gun......cmon man! 

 
I didn't think the episode was bad. Didn't think it needed to be 90 minutes, but did a nice job of setting things up for the 2nd half of the season.

 
at the end, anybody else waiting for some or all of them to jump into the air and have the camera freeze on that.. breaking into goofy 80s sitcom music?

as far as the half-season, this was up there for me. kept moving, got to follow along with everybody in the cast... little bit of everything, plus boots. that said- this season has been pretty bad, so "up there" means its right around the dwight episode (which I liked fine, but not great). everything else this season was meh for me.

I think I've stopped caring what happens to any of them- could be that the show has run its course for me, could be that this season was so badly crafted that I lost interest (on top of previous seasons)... whatever. I know that when aaron went into the drink- and I like aaron as a character- I didn't even bat an eye whether he was dead or not. same with rosita. I lost any sense of tension about whether or who they would kill there. 

negan with the lean-back continues to not help the situation.

boots. I don't think it's the guy from the kingdom. I'm going to guess it's either somebody completely new, or completely old- terminus, wolves, anybody left from the guvnah? or one of gang's old group? 

 
Seemed plausible that the 'even when you win, you lose' note was referring to some sort of booby trap boot wearer had set up for anyone who took the supplies away. I half expected it to blow up after being moved to Negan's truck, creating a big mess for Alexandria to explain.

 
BigJim® said:
Seemed plausible that the 'even when you win, you lose' note was referring to some sort of booby trap boot wearer had set up for anyone who took the supplies away. I half expected it to blow up after being moved to Negan's truck, creating a big mess for Alexandria to explain.
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maybe he poisoned the food and used it as a decoy away from his personal stash?

 
Jayrok said:
RE:  The guy in the boots spying on Rick and Alexandria.  I think it might be the same guy from the kingdom who talked to Carol and Morgan about getting Ezekiel to fight the Saviors.  They showed him in that small hidden trailer for no reason except his meltdown.  He feels alone in his quest to fight back.  Maybe while he was out he saw Rick and Aaron at the lake and followed the truck to Alexandria.  Now he wonders if they are a group he can join to fight.  Rick's group right now are in the same mindset as him.  I don't remember Carol or Morgan mentioned Alexandria to anyone, so he may not know whether Alexandria is also serving the saviors or an outpost for them.   
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I really hope it's someone else.  We already know that Jesus is going to introduce Rick and the Alexandrians to Ezekiel and the Kingdom in the second half of this season.  If this really is body armor dude (Richard I think is his name) from the Kingdom spying on Rick and co. then it's just wasted screentime, because then this is the exchange:  he goes back to the kingdom and tells Ezekiel "hey I found a group of people that are giving to the Saviors, maybe they are pissed like us and can join us to fight" and Ezekiel just goes "yeah, I met them yesterday, where the hell have you been, crying in that stupid camper of yours again?"  

 
Boots guy is not someone we have seen on the show yet. 

My guess it is just some crazy looney dude.

 
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ghostguy123 said:
Boots guy is not someone we have seen on the show yet. 

My guess it is either just some crazy looney dude.
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or?

if it is somebody from their past as I suggested- who did they leave alive previously that would be interesting?

if it's somebody new- why hide their face? boots, face- we won't know wtf they are regardless.

 
shadyridr said:
That was laughably bad. I thought the rest of the episode was decent.
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My wife who has probably watched a total of 15 mins of this show happened to sit down and watch that part. At that moment I actually felt embarrassed that I watch this show every week.

 
ghostguy123 said:
Maybe Rosita shoulda had mullet make a few bullets.  She probably didn't realize Negan was a Jedi with his light saber. 
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Just in case you haven't suspended disbelief so far, pretty sure holding onto a bat as a bullet hits it is gonna hurt your wrist just a tad. 

 
I really enjoyed the episode and am finally fired up about the show again but seems like everybody here hated it so might be time to check out of this thread for the remainder of the season if everybody's just gonna #### on the show. Bummer. Didn't think the episode was sensational and the season is still easily the weakest to date but did think it got things back on track and I am finally invested again mainly because I want the group together and focused on confronting Negan. And I've grown tired of all the tangent storylines and it would appear all of that is going to come to an end now.   

 
packersfan said:
I really enjoyed the episode and am finally fired up about the show again but seems like everybody here hated it so might be time to check out of this thread for the remainder of the season if everybody's just gonna #### on the show. Bummer. Didn't think the episode was sensational and the season is still easily the weakest to date but did think it got things back on track and I am finally invested again mainly because I want the group together and focused on confronting Negan. And I've grown tired of all the tangent storylines and it would appear all of that is going to come to an end now.   
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They drug you along half a season with filler episodes that are "easily the weakest to date" and you're good with that but upset that everyone in the thread is complaining?   :loco:

 
Uneven first half of season 7. But overall I am cool. Looking forward to the second half and the carnage about to take place. The consistent appeal of this show is the characters. I love Daryl, Rick, and Michonne. If they were not on I would be meh already.

The back drop is the zombie apocalypse. The sheer amount of survival from ourselves is really what this is all about. The zombie lake was cool yesterday. And Negan has been awesome. He was a much needed heal after the Governor went down.

 
I think the person in the boots is from the coastal female camp.  That is the angle of how they get them on board

The whole michonne thing is either bad writing or bad editing.  How did she know the girl was with Negan, what was the point of asking why she was by herself.  What did the girl mean by hiding the car and the bit with the silencer was a bit odd as well.  DId the girl just want Michonne to kill her?

weird

I dont think the numbers of Negan group matters as much as the gun situation.  Ricks crew can always just set up ambushes and take out people if they have the weapons for it.

Once they attack a group though then Negan is goign to know what is happening and burn Alexandria.

 
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