***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (3 Viewers)

[pantherclub]

I think because they're trying to isolate negan and the saviors inside sanctuary. dumpster ##### offer a way out for negan etc. 

side thought I had about sanctuary last night... only one way in and out I guess. they keep showing the same stairs, landing and doors with all the zombies bunching there. but it's what seems to be a giant building/factory... can't they just go out a back, side or any other door, get a couple cars and rick roll them out of there with some rick astley blasting on the speakers?

The whole plot/strategy is choppy as hell  and confusing. They hsve done a poor job trying to explain things

 

[snogger]

I think because they're trying to isolate negan and the saviors inside sanctuary. dumpster ##### offer a way out for negan etc. 

side thought I had about sanctuary last night... only one way in and out I guess. they keep showing the same stairs, landing and doors with all the zombies bunching there. but it's what seems to be a giant building/factory... can't they just go out a back, side or any other door, get a couple cars and rick roll them out of there with some rick astley blasting on the speakers?

The episode where they directed the horde into the Sanctuary compound showed the horde surrounding the entire building. They just choose to show us the Front doors for whatever reason now, rather then the entire compound.

 

[pantherclub]

You mean Rick, or the show in general??
If you mean the show in general VERY Every single frame they are in makes me want to change the channel..

But as far as the why the writers have written it, Rick not only wants the numbers, but it will also help them keep an eye on a group that already back stabbed them once.

I dont get that.  They screwed him once and shot him. Why not just level that dump

 

[El Floppo]

The whole plot/strategy is choppy as hell  and confusing. They hsve done a poor job trying to explain things

to be fair- one or two of these last episodes, maybe even last night, ricks group and negans group both brought up that negan was trapped by both zombies and sharp-shooters around sanctuary. add that to the "plan" so far having been taking out all the satellite groups outside of sanctuary and it makes sense that rick would want to turn or wipe out the garbage kids.

for the latter, probably better to just try to go live with them for a week or two... so far every place he does that with ends up wiped out PDQ.

 

[snogger]

You mean Rick, or the show in general??
If you mean the show in general VERY Every single frame they are in makes me want to change the channel..

But as far as the why the writers have written it, Rick not only wants the numbers, but it will also help them keep an eye on a group that already back stabbed them once.

I dont get that.  They screwed him once and shot him. Why not just level that dump

Well, as Rick put it, she only Grazed him with a bullet, whereas she could have shot him if indeed that was her intention.
So in his mind, or in this case the way the writers want him to think, she is hesitant to follow Negan to a "t" and therefore he thinks he can win them back.
But I agree with many in here.. the sooner they take them out the better.
Unfortunately, the way these writer seem to like the GPK's, the leader will probably become Rick and Michonnne's lover.

 

[kentric]

Don't know if any of you caught it, but I rewound and saw that the flame throwing guitar hood ornament guy from fury road was in the front of opera-mobile.

I forgot how goofy the garbage pail kids are, and yet I found monosyllabic leader chick super hot in the overall things with nothing under.

I liked the siddiq? character. Fingers crossed they don't turn him into something goofy too.

Speaking of... what happened to Morgan again?

Was thinking the same thing about the GPK leader.  For some reason I find her hot too.  Loved her little smile and then "no".  Did they ever explain how the GPKs can lose most of their ability to speak in a 4-5 year (?) period?  Is there some form of magnetic attraction of idiots that drew them together?

Some good points in this (low action) episode:

• Maggie saying they are keeping the prisoners as potential bargaining chips (but otherwise can't let them live);
  
• Siddiq.  Guy loved his Mom.  Who can't root for such a character.  They needed to make Siddiq look more malnourished IMO. Carl also needs to bring a bigger pik-a-nik basket.
  
• More Rosita (yummy)
  
• Singing Saviors talking about getting in the good graces of Negan by drawing away the walkers (its a darn good thing Darryl just happened to show up with a truck in the middle of nowhere to t-bone that Savior).  Was wondering what's in Darryl's mind regarding ending it?  Driving that truck into the Savior sanctuary to let in the walkers?
  

Overall, I kind of liked the episode.

 

[kentric]

I dont get that.  They screwed him once and shot him. Why not just level that dump

But just a grazing shot.  

I'm also a bit perplexed about Rick going in there.  Pretty poor gamble IMO as it opens the door for the GPKs to look to help Negan and his crew out of their predicament.  The GPKs likely had no idea about what was going on outside their enclave and now they know Negan is canned up.

 

[snogger]

Don't know if any of you caught it, but I rewound and saw that the flame throwing guitar hood ornament guy from fury road was in the front of opera-mobile.

I forgot how goofy the garbage pail kids are, and yet I found monosyllabic leader chick super hot in the overall things with nothing under.

I liked the siddiq? character. Fingers crossed they don't turn him into something goofy too.

Speaking of... what happened to Morgan again?

Was thinking the same thing about the GPK leader.  For some reason I find her hot too.  Loved her little smile and then "no".  Did they ever explain how the GPKs can lose most of their ability to speak in a 4-5 year (?) period?  Is there some form of magnetic attraction of idiots that drew them together?

Some good points in this (low action) episode:

• Maggie saying they are keeping the prisoners as potential bargaining chips (but otherwise can't let them live);
  
• Siddiq.  Guy loved his Mom.  Who can't root for such a character.  They needed to make Siddiq look more malnourished IMO. Carl also needs to bring a bigger pik-a-nik basket.
  
• More Rosita (yummy)
  
• Singing Saviors talking about getting in the good graces of Negan by drawing away the walkers (its a darn good thing Darryl just happened to show up with a truck in the middle of nowhere to t-bone that Savior).  Was wondering what's in Darryl's mind regarding ending it?  Driving that truck into the Savior sanctuary to let in the walkers?
  

Overall, I kind of liked the episode.

Never in the show itself... But I did read something last year where they basically said as Groups grow together some come up with their own "code" or speaking ways. Thus the leader started speaking in the "Yoda/Choppy" method and, taught others she did , so as to  keep track of members of the group.

 

[tommyboy]

rick went into the garbage dump on purpose.   obviously its part of the plan.  Not sure why?   Maybe the helicopter is part of the plan, and that would allow them to fly over the garbage dump and pick off all of them.

or maybe they want rick to "disappear" temporarily.   not sure where' they're going.

 

[El Floppo]

rick went into the garbage dump on purpose.   obviously its part of the plan.  Not sure why?   Maybe the helicopter is part of the plan, and that would allow them to fly over the garbage dump and pick off all of them.

or maybe they want rick to "disappear" temporarily.   not sure where' they're going.

huh... this made me think that since negan wants him alive, maybe it's a plan to draw the GPKs out into the open with rick in tow as they head to sanctuary. that also seems stupid, but at this point whatever.

eta: and no way the helicopter is part of rick's posse. unless maybe it's noah, back from the grave. helicopter might be an end game route- the flash of a government operating somewhere that they have to unite with eventually as things end and get back to "normal".

 

[snogger]

huh... this made me think that since negan wants him alive, maybe it's a plan to draw the GPKs out into the open with rick in tow as they head to sanctuary. that also seems stupid, but at this point whatever.

eta: and no way the helicopter is part of rick's posse. unless maybe it's noah, back from the grave. helicopter might be an end game route- the flash of a government operating somewhere that they have to unite with eventually as things end and get back to "normal".

  They've "teased" the Helicopters a few times.. Much like the "A" being used at Terminus, The GPK hangout and even at Alexandria once on someones hand.

 

[El Floppo]

  They've "teased" the Helicopters a few times.. Much like the "A" being used at Terminus, The GPK hangout and even at Alexandria once on someones hand.

I think you posted a list of helicopter scenes recently? 

only one I remembered was the one the governator shot down... and last episode.

and speaking of "A"...any ideas for that? also- aren't the "W" Wolves still alive and roaming around? as bad as the GPKs are- conceptually, the nihilist anarchist wolves were even worse.

 

[El Floppo]

anybody notice coral's voice change? sounded like barry white this episode. was waiting for him to croon sidiq's panties off during the meaningless zombie fight. also- first time I actually thought the kid actor was doing a decent job with the lines and role. maybe he's growing into the profession finally.

 

[snogger]

  They've "teased" the Helicopters a few times.. Much like the "A" being used at Terminus, The GPK hangout and even at Alexandria once on someones hand.

I think you posted a list of helicopter scenes recently? 

only one I remembered was the one the governator shot down... and last episode.

and speaking of "A"...any ideas for that? also- aren't the "W" Wolves still alive and roaming around? as bad as the GPKs are- conceptually, the nihilist anarchist wolves were even worse.

When Rick was in, I believe, Atlanta there was one flying over head as well.

The letters, like "A", from what the writers have said stand for Ahole...  "S" would be for S***head .. Etc... How the GPK's would have gotten that from Terminus or vice versa is all in the writers heads.

And no I believe the "Wolves" are done.. They killed all of them during the invasion, Only the one that Morgan saved survived the attack.. Although some still think that Coral's girlfriend was one of them ..

 

[El Floppo]

When Rick was in, I believe, Atlanta there was one flying over head as well.

The letters, like "A", from what the writers have said stand for Ahole...  "S" would be for S***head .. Etc... How the GPK's would have gotten that from Terminus or vice versa is all in the writers heads.

And no I believe the "Wolves" are done.. They killed all of them during the invasion, Only the one that Morgan saved survived the attack.. Although some still think that Coral's girlfriend was one of them ..

didn't a bunch of wolves escape? or were those the ones that rick shot down in the rv?

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Gregory getting rifle whipped and thrown in the Saviors pen was the highlight for me. 

 

[snogger]

When Rick was in, I believe, Atlanta there was one flying over head as well.

The letters, like "A", from what the writers have said stand for Ahole...  "S" would be for S***head .. Etc... How the GPK's would have gotten that from Terminus or vice versa is all in the writers heads.

And no I believe the "Wolves" are done.. They killed all of them during the invasion, Only the one that Morgan saved survived the attack.. Although some still think that Coral's girlfriend was one of them ..

didn't a bunch of wolves escape? or were those the ones that rick shot down in the rv?

I believe so..

Oh and I forgot the Helicopter on top of the Grocery Store.. So that is at least 4 "references" to helicopters..

 

[tommyboy]

i would prefer to discuss more Rositas Jugs ©™

 

[Jobber]

Whatever happened to the seaside group Rick and them stole all the weapons from? I bet they make an appearance in the war, tipping the scales against Negan.

The wolves mixing it up would be awesome, too.

 

[tonydead]

I thought TWD was now much later than fear...  I guess it would take a long time to get to Mex/Cal from VA, what with all the bad gas. Are they going to make a spinoff like Kung-Fu where Morgan wanders the land spinning yarns and his stick?

Both shows started with the outbreak.   TWD started this season somewhere between day 610 and day 624.  On FTWD they blew up the dam on day 64.  

I don't see how Morgan or anyone crosses over in real time between the two shows any time soon as FTWD has some catching up to do.  I just assumed it was going to be a character from TWD showing some events prior to meeting up with Rick's crew.   But, I wouldn't count on the writers not screwing it up.

 

[The Big Guy]

The big plan of Rick is to break apart the Saviors and get their supporters to bail out, which includes the GPK. They are trying to avoid killing anyone that is not a soldier by choice, keeping victims of Negan alive.  Now as we just saw, not all of his victims feel like that, they have traded their work for security (as Eugene has) and I doubt that his plan will succeed because of it.

 

[tonydead]

Speaking of cross-overs, that group in FTWD has helicopter(s).

 

[tonydead]

Spoiler

You know technically the talk of Morgan crossing over should have been in spoilers.  I started reading some articles on it and one asked how he is going to accomplish that, "Does he build a time machine?"  

  [\spoiler]

 

[The Big Guy]

Spoiler

You know technically the talk of Morgan crossing over should have been in spoilers.  I started reading some articles on it and one asked how he is going to accomplish that, "Does he build a time machine?"  

  [\spoiler]

I disagree as it has been released to the public at this point. Ftwd is a solid year or two behind TWD, so having someone be on both would be ok with timelines, just incredibly unlikely. Not as unlikely as the entire cgi tiger, but still unlikely.

 

[tonydead]

I disagree as it has been released to the public at this point. Ftwd is a solid year or two behind TWD, so having someone be on both would be ok with timelines, just incredibly unlikely. Not as unlikely as the entire cgi tiger, but still unlikely.

Not interested in the spoiler debate, but, people purposely avoid the previews and aftershows so it doesn't ruin future episodes.  That's the whole point.

How do you have a character from TWD show up in FTWD in real time given the bold?  It has to be someone like Morgan or Abraham that joined Rick's crew at least after 64 days or whatever time FTWD is at when the crossover show airs and they wouldn't be in TWD real time.

Spoiler

And since we know it's Morgan, it has to be in between the time Rick left Morgan in Georgia (most likely while making his way to Terminus?) and when he meets up with him again in Alexandria.  Morgan isn't anywhere near the FTWD locations during that short time. 

  Yeah, I don't these writers getting this right.

 

[Statorama]

I mentioned it before but will again.. heroes.. I was All in the first season, mostly in the 2nd season.. But half way through the 3rd I realized I was wasting my time and stopped.

That show REALLY slid downhill fast.  TWD is kind of like a slow burn.

 

[El Floppo]

Not interested in the spoiler debate, but, people purposely avoid the previews and aftershows so it doesn't ruin future episodes.  That's the whole point.

How do you have a character from TWD show up in FTWD in real time given the bold?  It has to be someone like Morgan or Abraham that joined Rick's crew at least after 64 days or whatever time FTWD is at when the crossover show airs and they wouldn't be in TWD real time.

Spoiler

And since we know it's Morgan, it has to be in between the time Rick left Morgan in Georgia (most likely while making his way to Terminus?) and when he meets up with him again in Alexandria.  Morgan isn't anywhere near the FTWD locations during that short time. 

  Yeah, I don't these writers getting this right.

could also be that next season (or whenever the cross-over happens) FTWD jumps forward in time ... a lot.  given the story they've shown in TWD, I don't think Morgan left his clear house other than to find stick guy.

when I left it, ftwd had people at the ranch, dam and some bull-fighting arena/mall.

 

[Hawkeye21]

Another Meh episode for me.  I found it to be pretty boring.  There were a few interesting things but nothing special.  This whole season has just been something for me to watch on my lunch hour instead of a must see show.

 

[knowledge dropper]

could also be that next season (or whenever the cross-over happens) FTWD jumps forward in time ... a lot.  given the story they've shown in TWD, I don't think Morgan left his clear house other than to find stick guy.

when I left it, ftwd had people at the ranch, dam and some bull-fighting arena/mall.

That’s the only way I can see this work. FTWD has to do some type of time jump.  

 

[tonydead]

could also be that next season (or whenever the cross-over happens) FTWD jumps forward in time ... a lot.  given the story they've shown in TWD, I don't think Morgan left his clear house other than to find stick guy.

when I left it, ftwd had people at the ranch, dam and some bull-fighting arena/mall.

Season 1 and 2 - Rick's was talking to Morgan via walkie talkie  (through day 66)

Season 3 - Rick's crew finds Morgan holed up in his apartment, crazy, morning his wife and son (Day 314)  

Season 3-5 Interim - Morgan's apartment burns down and he goes and finds Eastman to study The Art of Peace  (day 330 to day 523)

Season 5 - Morgan is shown removing his mask after Rick and crew escape Terminus as he's following X's marked on a tree with circles around them.  He later finds a map of Washington DC with Rick's name on it.  (day 531)  He arrives in Alexandria (day 547)

So for Morgan to show up in FTWD either it's sometime in the far future from FTWD's timeline (currently day 64) or:

1- He went to visit them wherever they are while he was supposed to be crazy and holed up in his apartment (unlikely).

2- Or he wasn't really with Eastman all that time.  (As part of his dojo training Eastman has him do a walk about Kung Fu style).

3- The writers completely screw the timeline up.

 

[tonydead]

That’s the only way I can see this work. FTWD has to do some type of time jump.  

Looks like it, but, doesn't that kind ruin what is going on in FTWD?  They just introduced a new camp of bad characters and hinted at going to Texas.  Now we're going to jump forward revealing who might survive all that?  I'm going to laugh out loud when the writers just have Morgan show up in his catcher's gear and carrying his stick in like day 90 with no explanation at all.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Looks like it, but, doesn't that kind ruin what is going on in FTWD?  They just introduced a new camp of bad characters and hinted at going to Texas.  Now we're going to jump forward revealing who might survive all that?  I'm going to laugh out loud when the writers just have Morgan show up in his catcher's gear and carrying his stick in like day 90 with no explanation at all.

Right.  Getting from Virginia to Mexico (or vice versa) during a zombie apocalypse is going to take a lot of explaining or leaps in logic for a character whose backstory is pretty full.  

 

[DallasDMac]

Another Meh episode for me.  I found it to be pretty boring.  There were a few interesting things but nothing special.  This whole season has just been something for me to watch on my lunch hour instead of a must see show.

This.

 

[prosopis]

Was that an arts and crafts tiger that the garbage pail leader was working on when we first saw her?

 

[jhib]

I liked the call back to the old days with the five questions (three questions!) to test potential new members of the group.  But then they had to do one of those fake-suspense, "after all this time we're not very good at fighting a few zombies" scenes that took away most of my good feelings. 

 

[Hawkeye21]

I liked the call back to the old days with the five questions (three questions!) to test potential new members of the group.  But then they had to do one of those fake-suspense, "after all this time we're not very good at fighting a few zombies" scenes that took away most of my good feelings. 

Yes, that zombie fighting scene was completely worthless.  It's so lazy.

 

[TheFanatic]

Season 1 and 2 - Rick's was talking to Morgan via walkie talkie  (through day 66)

Season 3 - Rick's crew finds Morgan holed up in his apartment, crazy, morning his wife and son (Day 314)  

Season 3-5 Interim - Morgan's apartment burns down and he goes and finds Eastman to study The Art of Peace  (day 330 to day 523)

Season 5 - Morgan is shown removing his mask after Rick and crew escape Terminus as he's following X's marked on a tree with circles around them.  He later finds a map of Washington DC with Rick's name on it.  (day 531)  He arrives in Alexandria (day 547)

So for Morgan to show up in FTWD either it's sometime in the far future from FTWD's timeline (currently day 64) or:

1- He went to visit them wherever they are while he was supposed to be crazy and holed up in his apartment (unlikely).

2- Or he wasn't really with Eastman all that time.  (As part of his dojo training Eastman has him do a walk about Kung Fu style).

3- The writers completely screw the timeline up.

Yeah, this is a horrible idea. Abraham was the play here. Morgan makes no sense. Had he not been at the very beginning, he could've pulled it off, but him being there at the beginning and then later on crazy and then later on training to be monk and then later on saving Rick, there's just no way. Mind you I bailed with the poor man's Johnny Depp was shacked up with the chick in that town in Mexico that had the bus as a gate. So I have no idea what has happened since. 

 

[El Floppo]

I liked the call back to the old days with the five questions (three questions!) to test potential new members of the group.  But then they had to do one of those fake-suspense, "after all this time we're not very good at fighting a few zombies" scenes that took away most of my good feelings. 

Yes, that zombie fighting scene was completely worthless.  It's so lazy.

true. it's part of the problem with where the show has gotten- the zombies are like keystone cops at this point. nobody of value will die from them now- too stupid a death, given how easily they can be killed or navigated. that said- it did take some time to get there... and is part of my problem with FTWD, where I was already in the headspace of knowing how goofy the zombies are but had to retread the fear the characters are supposed to have of them.

 

[El Floppo]

Yeah, this is a horrible idea. Abraham was the play here. Morgan makes no sense. Had he not been at the very beginning, he could've pulled it off, but him being there at the beginning and then later on crazy and then later on training to be monk and then later on saving Rick, there's just no way. Mind you I bailed with the poor man's Johnny Depp was shacked up with the chick in that town in Mexico that had the bus as a gate. So I have no idea what has happened since. 

oh man- you've missed everything.

Spoiler

I bailed too. you didn't miss anything. the show was terrible.

 

[beer 30]

Don't know if any of you caught it, but I rewound and saw that the flame throwing guitar hood ornament guy from fury road was in the front of opera-mobile.

I forgot how goofy the garbage pail kids are, and yet I found monosyllabic leader chick super hot in the overall things with nothing under.

I liked the siddiq? character. Fingers crossed they don't turn him into something goofy too.

Speaking of... what happened to Morgan again?

That was the highlight of the show for me. Going to take to the Googles for further research.

Rick getting captured is part of the plan, write it down.

That little spoiler debate above? Who cares at this point? The show is swirling right now, they can flip the script all they want. I didn't invest any time into Fear TWD so it would just be another group to me. More redshirts as far as I'm concerned.

 

[tonydead]

Yeah, this is a horrible idea. Abraham was the play here. Morgan makes no sense. Had he not been at the very beginning, he could've pulled it off, but him being there at the beginning and then later on crazy and then later on training to be monk and then later on saving Rick, there's just no way. Mind you I bailed with the poor man's Johnny Depp was shacked up with the chick in that town in Mexico that had the bus as a gate. So I have no idea what has happened since. 

They moved and reunited with the entire family (minus Travis who died) to a ranch north of the boarder.  They destroyed that place so they went down and found Ofelia's dad (just in time for Ofelia to die) still alive holed up at a dam that was controlling the water to the entire area.  Then they blew the dam up. 

 

[tonydead]

Strand keeps popping in and out of the story line just like the Morgan character in TWD, which makes me question why they need Morgan to cross over.

 

[tonydead]

That was the highlight of the show for me. Going to take to the Googles for further research.

Rick getting captured is part of the plan, write it down.

That little spoiler debate above? Who cares at this point? The show is swirling right now, they can flip the script all they want. I didn't invest any time into Fear TWD so it would just be another group to me. More redshirts as far as I'm concerned.

Huh?  They aren't merging the shows, Morgan is just going over for a visit.

 

[tonydead]

Was that an arts and crafts tiger that the garbage pail leader was working on when we first saw her?

More importantly why was she naked.  And even more importantly, why did she go get dressed after Rick showed up?

 

[tonydead]

anybody notice coral's voice change? sounded like barry white this episode. was waiting for him to croon sidiq's panties off during the meaningless zombie fight. also- first time I actually thought the kid actor was doing a decent job with the lines and role. maybe he's growing into the profession finally.

It was fitting for his balls to finally drop now that he's found a boy friend.

 

[El Floppo]

They moved and reunited with the entire family (minus Travis who died) to a ranch north of the boarder.  They destroyed that place so they went down and found Ofelia's dad (just in time for Ofelia to die) still alive holed up at a dam that was controlling the water to the entire area.  Then they blew the dam up. 

  they blew it up? lol... really are turned into Rick's group with the survival percentage of people and societies they come into contact with basically null.

 

[TheFanatic]

true. it's part of the problem with where the show has gotten- the zombies are like keystone cops at this point. nobody of value will die from them now- too stupid a death, given how easily they can be killed or navigated. that said- it did take some time to get there... and is part of my problem with FTWD, where I was already in the headspace of knowing how goofy the zombies are but had to retread the fear the characters are supposed to have of them.

Uh, Shiva?

 

[El Floppo]

true. it's part of the problem with where the show has gotten- the zombies are like keystone cops at this point. nobody of value will die from them now- too stupid a death, given how easily they can be killed or navigated. that said- it did take some time to get there... and is part of my problem with FTWD, where I was already in the headspace of knowing how goofy the zombies are but had to retread the fear the characters are supposed to have of them.

Uh, Shiva?

 

[beer 30]

Huh?  They aren't merging the shows, Morgan is just going over for a visit.

And I'll counter, who cares one way or the other? He could vacation there and come back refreshed or he could bring the whole production crew back with him along with the actors and I wouldn't give a rats ### about it. I know, it's me and my opinion, just saying this divergence from the main story line doesn't interest me one way or 'tother. Neither does Morgan quite frankly, his on again/off again involvement is old to me.

 

[Godsbrother]

The episode where they directed the horde into the Sanctuary compound showed the horde surrounding the entire building. They just choose to show us the Front doors for whatever reason now, rather then the entire compound.

Not sure why they wouldn't blow up the front doors of the sanctuary and let the horde of walkers into the building to eat the saviors.