Leroy Hoard
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Im guessing like hockey last to touch it?
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Official US Women's soccer thread: ***Update- Christen Press retires (8 Viewers)
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Moe.
Footballguy
No, in soccer there is something called an own goal. Nobody on Norway gets credit for a goal.
otb_lifer
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Bluto Blutarsky
Footballguy
Penalty to France..does Thiney take it??
otb_lifer
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Bluto Blutarsky
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jabarony
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Since Rapino is 33, you would think she'd know better than to act like an idiot in a blowout. Most 10 year-olds know not to show up an opponent. Especially in a game like that.
Plus the goal was about a 2/10 in terms of difficulty.
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
USA Today columnist Nancy Armour also had no time for the critics.
"You want the Americans to impose the slaughter rule or patronize their opponents by pretending they didn't just tack another goal onto the scoreline? Go join the 6-year-olds in the park," she wrote. "Maybe you'll get a participation trophy and an orange slice while you're at it.”
"You want the Americans to impose the slaughter rule or patronize their opponents by pretending they didn't just tack another goal onto the scoreline? Go join the 6-year-olds in the park," she wrote. "Maybe you'll get a participation trophy and an orange slice while you're at it.”
Bluto Blutarsky
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OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
It’s the World Cup. It happens every 4 years. They should be able to celebrate all they want.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
i've lit more on fire at the track, so .. c'est la vie
jabarony
Footballguy
So true on the GD part. On thelist of things that can hinder the US winning it all, group stage GD is about #73 on the list.
And they should cap GD at +6 or something.
B Maverick
Footballguy
The funniest thing about this discussion is all the US Women's players complaining about Sweden's celebrations when knocking them out a few years ago. Olympics maybe?
I think it was the train they formed and crawled across the ground....
No one should complain about running up the score. Its the WC, gd does play a part. But more importantly its not like you can take all your players off for backups. And everyone there or who gets subbed in wants their WC moment and goal. For Pugh it was her first. For Lloyd its her swan song and she has now scored in 5 straight WC games and may not get many chances. Morgan had 5 (and 2 assists), records or record tying for both players I think.
And I do agree that stopping and playing keep away for 30 mins is more demoralizing. esp in a tourney where you have to play 2 more games. I never played at this level or professional, but did play D1 college and still play Sunday League. I've been the losing side in a blowout. Much rather have them go down and score then spend the time chasing the ball around the center circle. Plus you can put your keeper and defenders up front to get them some goals. You can't do all that in the WC.
The only celebration I had an issue with was Captain Rapinoe after she scored the 9th goal of the game. It was very over the top and not something the captain and someone who's been there before should be doing. I am not saying don't celebrate, just don't rub it in, and hers did. And maybe I am a little biased since I think she is very overrated as a player. Just my opinion.
And no, I am not rooting for them to lose because they celebrated.
I think it was the train they formed and crawled across the ground....
No one should complain about running up the score. Its the WC, gd does play a part. But more importantly its not like you can take all your players off for backups. And everyone there or who gets subbed in wants their WC moment and goal. For Pugh it was her first. For Lloyd its her swan song and she has now scored in 5 straight WC games and may not get many chances. Morgan had 5 (and 2 assists), records or record tying for both players I think.
And I do agree that stopping and playing keep away for 30 mins is more demoralizing. esp in a tourney where you have to play 2 more games. I never played at this level or professional, but did play D1 college and still play Sunday League. I've been the losing side in a blowout. Much rather have them go down and score then spend the time chasing the ball around the center circle. Plus you can put your keeper and defenders up front to get them some goals. You can't do all that in the WC.
The only celebration I had an issue with was Captain Rapinoe after she scored the 9th goal of the game. It was very over the top and not something the captain and someone who's been there before should be doing. I am not saying don't celebrate, just don't rub it in, and hers did. And maybe I am a little biased since I think she is very overrated as a player. Just my opinion.
And no, I am not rooting for them to lose because they celebrated.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I’m not offended and don’t particularly care, but that would be unusual for a goal in a game that was already a blowout. When you consider that Rapinoe is not some defender who never score and that it wasn’t a golazo, it was weird.That's.....not that bad. That's soccer.
General Malaise
Footballguy
She seems a little.... pissed off, miffed, woke, at present time.
Read about her not wanting to sing or stand for the anthem recently.
I agree with your post - but this has to stop.
The US is not a team that has ambitions of "advancing", or making it to the quarter-finals, where a knockout stage matchup would be important.
The US is a team that expects, at the very least, to be in the Final.
Matchups in the knockout stage should not be a concern to any team with a design on winning the tournament. If the US is worried about finishing 1st or 2nd in the group - then win two more games that you will be heavily favored to win.
Yes, GD is a tiebreker. But, No it is not a factor to the US team.
Despite that - I have no problem running up the score - because you are good enough, not because you "have to build goal-differential"
El Floppo
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it's strange you're caught up in not pushing for goal differential.
why not opt to get the easier route through to the finals- it's not like this is the US oly basketball team waiting to play the one or two other teams in the world that might be able to keep up; there are more than enough teams out there that are capable of bringing the US down. more goals means easier opponent next game... and next game (and that's already assuming knock-out stages) is all that matters when it's a single elimination tournament.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I looked it up.
The mens World Cup has been played since 1930.
The largest margin of victory was 9 and it happened 3 times. 1954, 1974, and 1982.
There were three other 8 goal victories.
Now a days you will see usually 1 six goal win. Which makes the Germany 7 Brazil 1 result all the more amazing given the quality of Brazil and being at home.
For 2026 FIFA has made the monumentally stupid decision of expanding the WC from its near perfect 32 team format to a clunky 48 team format. This will likely result in some extra blow outs.
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Leroy Hoard
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Pretty much the same thing when the NCAA mens hoops ended up going from 32 to 64. Makes that first round less than awesome.
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Are you similarly miffed about WNBA players not getting paid as much as NBA players?I don't like what's happening, but you're helping me understand why it's happening and I appreciate that.
El Floppo
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Nah - there are maybe 2 or 3 other teams in the same league as this US team.
They will probably have to face 2 of them. It does not matter when.
Capella
Footballguy
It doesn’t get mentioned because it isn’t true. The women are playing substantially more games to make that money. You know this.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Boy, I sure hope I see all you whining, crying, experts in celebration management show up in the NHL thread to legislate your morality in the Blues celebrating their 4th goal tonight. I saw leaping and hugging and oh, I so want your hot takes to translate into how athletes should celebrate a blow out across all sports....
Bluto Blutarsky
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General Malaise
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General Malaise
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Oh horse spit...why can hockey players hug and dance at 4-0 but our women are vilified for doing the same. It's a double standard.Bluto Blutarsky said:
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I never knew we had so many Thai people here.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Also, this is my thread, gobbler. Floppo started this seconds after I requested it so you crawl out of here if my salient points upset your delicate constitution.
Capella
Footballguy
I don’t think you do. One team was playing an opponent on equal ground in the final game for a championship and scored the goal that locked the title in. The other was playing a tremendously tremendously overmatched team in game 1 of the qualifying round and was doing leg kicks on the ground after goal 9. They’re not the same thing.
otb_lifer
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CletiusMaximus
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I don’t want to ignore you, but would suggest the point’s been made and sufficiently discussed and that it’s probably time to move on. I hope the US women are ignoring the discussion entirely and moving forward. The next game will be another laugher, but they will eventually face some tougher competition and hopefully score some big goals for everyone to celebrate.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Thanks Dad
I say we get back to the inane debate about soccer goal celebrations from 20-30 year old females at the height of their sport by 40-50 year old white dudes who celebrate with a fist pump when they don’t have to get up to pee twice during the night. It was riveting.
Bluto Blutarsky
Footballguy
That Ausi /Brazil line - both teams to score, 4 bookings and 4 corners at 10/1 is interesting.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
was looking at that Christiane to score 2÷ goals at 9/1 - yep, got burned by the French Hiney yesterday ... but a one named Brasilialita? hmmm - is this one name moniker as common a shtick for them as it is the Brasil men? or is this filly kinda special?
anyways ... i like to go back to the well - looking hard at a repeat plunk today - pretty much on full tilt after yesterday's beating.
now, in layman's terms ... why is the 4 bookings/4 corners an interesting look?
Bluto Blutarsky
Footballguy
I just think it's a good attacking match-up. Both should score, more attacking games lead to more corners and south Americans are snide....so hopefully cards.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Now imagine you have a 7 year old daughter who likes to watch sports with you. You watch the USA team score a late goal in a game that's been decided and one player leaps into the arms of another to celebrate. I turn to my daughter and say "don't ever do that. It's poor sportsmanship".
The very next day she is with you when a hockey player scores a late goal in a game that has been decided and celebrates by leaping into another player's arms and I have to tell my daughter "that's not bad sportsmanship, that's totally fine!"
What's the parenting playbook? One event means more than another so one celebration is cool the other not cool?
I'm moving on. I don't really give a #### either way, just find the criticism of the USWNT to be ridiculous when celebrations are rampant in all sports in all sorts of situations.
Capella
Footballguy
I am not talking to a child though. We are adults discussing this.
I would never tell a child not to celebrate any goal in life no matter how marginal. Really, I don’t even care that the USWNT did it. But I understand the complaints. More than anything I felt bad for the Thai players. Seemed humiliating.
otb_lifer
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took the corner/card 4+ each at 10/1 for a fitty spot, wheeled anuddah fitty on Christiane for at least 2 goals ... my partner went heavy on Brasil (4/5) with yesterday's France winnings ($600+).
i see we're now 12 mins in and no score ...
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Bluto Blutarsky
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We got a corner!took the corner/card 4+ each at 10/1 for a fitty spot, wheeled anuddah fitty on Christiane for at least 2 goals ... my partner went heavy on Brasil (4/5)with yesterday's France winnings ($600+).
i see we're now 12 mins in and no score ...
The cards will be the toughest get imo
otb_lifer
Footballguy
again, only following on the ladbrokes site - no feed - i see 1 yeller card already for Brazil - that counts towards my bet, no? or is it only RED cards i plunked for - ELI5
