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Official US Women's soccer thread: ***Update- Christen Press retires (4 Viewers)

El Floppo said:
I played through college in the late 80s and for a few semipro years afterwards.... most of what gets called now, wasn't then. Most of what is given a yellow now, wasn't even a foul then  But yeah, if you went over the ball studs up- yugh, was usually intentional and/or trying to wreck a guy for the game or longer.
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Misfit said:
I wasn't good enough to play college ball, but played through HS and played on an intramural team in college.  Completely agree with your take.  I only got a couple yellow cards in all my years of playing, but feel like I'd be seeing constant red cards these days.  

My senior year of HS I missed almost the entire season after getting stomped on the toe in a mud pit game, breaking my big toe on my primary foot....... wasn't even called a foul
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I played college in the mid 90s and as long as you went through or got the ball it was considered a great tackle and not a foul.  Now you get booked.  Shoulder to shoulder was fine and just because someone fell over didn't mean a foul was called.  You were also allowed to challenge the keeper on balls in the air like any other player.  Free kicks were not given just for looking at a keeper wrong like they are now.

Most of my bookings were for decent.

 
El Floppo said:
Hated that pk call. Yes, there was contact on the backswing...and maybe that's the new letter of the law, but nothing and nowhere else for the defender to go or do there. 

Also didn't like how the US over-committed on every challenge over that 15 minutes to try to win the ball instead of keeping their heads and forcing the English to play the ball back. Too many opportunities for the Brits to make the easy turn and find open space going to go goal.
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Finally got to see a replay (not on my phone) of the PK call.

I agree,  weak for sure.  

 
Lavelle also said her hammy didn’t feel too bad in the mixed zone. She unfortunately has a history of pulls, but if she can be fit, it’s big. The US are lucky to have a replacement as good as Mewis, but if they’re protecting a lead in the final, I’d far rather them go 4-1-3-2 with Ertz sitting behind Rose, Horan, and Mewis than the passive back-5 Ellis got away with today. 

 
Capella said:
Power went out 5 minutes into the game so that was great! Sounds like I didn’t miss much, certainly not one of the most thrilling games in recent times. Also, it’s like a 110 in my house right now. Great. 
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Better finish those leftovers.....

 
Capella said:
Power went out 5 minutes into the game so that was great! Sounds like I didn’t miss much, certainly not one of the most thrilling games in recent times. Also, it’s like a 110 in my house right now. Great. 
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It wasn't as good as the France game, but I still thought it was a decent game to watch, with plenty of intrigue.

 
Misfit said:
I wasn't good enough to play college ball, but played through HS and played on an intramural team in college.  Completely agree with your take.  I only got a couple yellow cards in all my years of playing, but feel like I'd be seeing constant red cards these days.  

My senior year of HS I missed almost the entire season after getting stomped on the toe in a mud pit game, breaking my big toe on my primary foot....... wasn't even called a foul
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It might not surprise many of you, but I didn't feel I accomplished much if I didn't get a yellow card in a game. Playing in London in the 80s that was a tough thing to do.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Lavelle also said her hammy didn’t feel too bad in the mixed zone. She unfortunately has a history of pulls, but if she can be fit, it’s big. The US are lucky to have a replacement as good as Mewis, but if they’re protecting a lead in the final, I’d far rather them go 4-1-3-2 with Ertz sitting behind Rose, Horan, and Mewis than the passive back-5 Ellis got away with today. 
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Agreed. They give up way too much possession with the flat back 5.

Also, how good is Lavelle? She looks scrawny, but damn she's quick and had great touch. Love her game.

 
The Z Machine said:
Agreed. They give up way too much possession with the flat back 5.

Also, how good is Lavelle? She looks scrawny, but damn she's quick and had great touch. Love her game.
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Had never heard of her before the WC. It's like she has the nitrous switch and just blazes by people.

 
I'm pretty biased, but Lavelle is my current favorite player and I think she's awesome.  Just 24, and she was the #1 pick in NWSL so I'm not sure how El Floppo never heard of her :P

I'd probably rank her a touch below a few players on the current team, but by the time her career is over, I think she'll be an all-timer, probably second best mf behind Lilly all-time.  

The U.S. is so effing stacked though it's tough for players to shine  I mean, Lavelle gets hurt and they bring on Mewis, who's pretty great herself and just 26.  I mean, Mal Pugh is freaking electric and can't even hit the pitch (just 21 though so her time will surely come).

US team is really fun to watch, and I'm no way going to say I'm much a follower of womens soccer.

Seems Alex Morgan's celebration is getting a bit of backlash on the twitterverse.

And one tweet I saw which I thought was pure class and from a good soccer writer...

@henrywinter

Congratulations #USWMNT. Good luck in the final. For the heartbroken #LIONESSES it will be of no immediate consolation amidst the pain of defeat but there will be huge long-term gains from this #FIFAWWC run. More people will take up the game and more will watch it. #ENGUSA

 
My thoughts, not that anyone cares, I didn't care for the Morgan tea sip celebration. Thought it was classless. She also seems to cry a bit more than the others.

I thought Dunn was exposed a bit yesterday.

Great save on the penalty kick. 

I think they got lucky yesterday. Both England goals were defensive breakdowns. They don't call that offside and the PK goes in, we are playing for 3rd place.

 
Agree with everyone else who hates the 5 back lineup. The ball ends up on our back third the entire time. No bueno.

 
Payne said:
My thoughts, not that anyone cares, I didn't care for the Morgan tea sip celebration. Thought it was classless. She also seems to cry a bit more than the others.

I thought Dunn was exposed a bit yesterday.

Great save on the penalty kick. 

I think they got lucky yesterday. Both England goals were defensive breakdowns. They don't call that offside and the PK goes in, we are playing for 3rd place.
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One of the top-5 celebrations of all time. God bless her.

 
Payne said:
I thought Dunn was exposed a bit yesterday.
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I think we watched a different match.  People were praising her for the France game when I thought she was out of position most of the game causing her to run around like her hair was on fire. Not nearly as much praise yesterday. And I think she had her best game of the tournament. Wasn't out of position very often. And she finally started using her attacking skills to put stress on England's D.  :shrug:

 
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how we feelin' about today's match?

  i haven't seen much better play thus far than Netherlands in the second half vs Italy in the quarters, though Sweden's takedown of Gernany was a much more impressive feat. 

early 1X2 line:

Netherlands +140

Draw +220

Sweden +200

:popcorn:

think USWNT would prefer Sweden, no? 

 
I haven't seen enough of either to make a play, but from what I have seen, Sweden plays a much more pragmatic game.  Solid defense, will try to hit on a counter or set piece.  They absorb pressure well and the win vs Germany was pretty impressive.

Dutch were lucky to advance vs Japan.  They were gifted a late 2h PK and the Japanese hit the woodwork a few times too.  

I think it will be a low scoring, boring game

 
Christo said:
I think we watched a different match.  People were praising her for the France game when I thought she was out of position most of the game causing her to run around like her hair was on fire. Not nearly as much praise yesterday. And I think she had her best game of the tournament. Wasn't out of position very often. And she finally started using her attacking skills to put stress on England's D.  :shrug:
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I actually agree with @Christo here.  If she's going to play as a wing back, she's got to learn when to stay put and when to pressure the opposition and pin them back. Perhaps that's on Ellis and her gameplanning, but it's obvious that O'Hara has a much much better understanding of the role she should play in defending vs. transition vs. offense.  Dunn is relying on her makeup speed and quickness to not get absolutely worked on the flank instead of understanding space, marking, and when to execute an overlapping or diagonal run.

 
guru_007 said:
I haven't seen enough of either to make a play, but from what I have seen, Sweden plays a much more pragmatic game.  Solid defense, will try to hit on a counter or set piece.  They absorb pressure well and the win vs Germany was pretty impressive.

Dutch were lucky to advance vs Japan.  They were gifted a late 2h PK and the Japanese hit the woodwork a few times too.  

I think it will be a low scoring, boring game
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good point about Japan game ... believe it was in the 92nd minute ... i had Netherlands pretty big for the rt win, and had given up all hope.

first half vs Italy was none too spectacular, either ... though they did turn it on in the latter stages, then carried that momentum into the second half, bagging 3 unanswered goals - it really could've been 5+, they were positively clinical. 

 
otb_lifer said:
how we feelin' about today's match?

  i haven't seen much better play thus far than Netherlands in the second half vs Italy in the quarters, though Sweden's takedown of Gernany was a much more impressive feat. 

early 1X2 line:

Netherlands +140

Draw +220

Sweden +200

:popcorn:

think USWNT would prefer Sweden, no? 
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Who advances on a draw?

 
Payne said:
My thoughts, not that anyone cares, I didn't care for the Morgan tea sip celebration. Thought it was classless. She also seems to cry a bit more than the others.

I thought Dunn was exposed a bit yesterday.

Great save on the penalty kick. 

I think they got lucky yesterday. Both England goals were defensive breakdowns. They don't call that offside and the PK goes in, we are playing for 3rd place.
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I didn't like the celebration either- and liked her explanation less. She must be a complete moron if she thought sipping tea wouldn't be understood as a slap in England's face.

But "crying"? She is getting the crap kicked out of her all tournament. I'll even forgive her for embellishing a couple challenges at the end of that game after her leg could have been broken. 

 
El Floppo said:
I didn't like the celebration either- and liked her explanation less. She must be a complete moron if she thought sipping tea wouldn't be understood as a slap in England's face.

But "crying"? She is getting the crap kicked out of her all tournament. I'll even forgive her for embellishing a couple challenges at the end of that game after her leg could have been broken. 
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Oh I thought she did it to purposefully troll England. She tried to explain she didn’t think it was insulting? :lmao:  No chance. 

 
Capella said:
Oh I thought she did it to purposefully troll England. She tried to explain she didn’t think it was insulting? :lmao:  No chance. 
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From what I could gather she was aiming at a version of the golf clap, look at me I've got class and won't celebrate, to troll the dopey critic haters in the US. To use a theme that is so obviously British and not think before or after of it...she's a moron.

I hate trolling. And I hate intentionally disrespecting people. What's wrong with you that you get off on that?

 
El Floppo said:
From what I could gather she was aiming at a version of the golf clap, look at me I've got class and won't celebrate, to troll the dopey critic haters in the US. To use a theme that is so obviously British and not think before or after of it...she's a moron.

I hate trolling. And I hate intentionally disrespecting people. What's wrong with you that you get off on that?
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They’re just out there having fun and talking #### man. It’s not that serious. 

 
Capella said:
They’re just out there having fun and talking #### man. It’s not that serious. 
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Acting like an disrespectful ####### is always serious. On the world stage when you're representing your country- even more so. 

I don't understand why that's so difficult to comprehend. Bums me out that people I like condone and celebrate that kind of behavior.

 
El Floppo said:
Acting like an disrespectful ####### is always serious. On the world stage when you're representing your country- even more so. 

I don't understand why that's so difficult to comprehend. Bums me out that people I like condone and celebrate that kind of behavior.
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I really think you’re overreacting to it a bit. The jokes after it were funny! Somebody said if England scored they should pantomime eating a Big Mac and large fries. Come on! 

 
Christo said:
I think we watched a different match.  People were praising her for the France game when I thought she was out of position most of the game causing her to run around like her hair was on fire. Not nearly as much praise yesterday. And I think she had her best game of the tournament. Wasn't out of position very often. And she finally started using her attacking skills to put stress on England's D.  :shrug:
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I remember two distinct times when she played the ball to the outside and the opposing player took the play inside without much contention.

I thought yesterday was the first time she looked out of place at times. 

 
Christo said:
I think we watched a different match.  People were praising her for the France game when I thought she was out of position most of the game causing her to run around like her hair was on fire. Not nearly as much praise yesterday. And I think she had her best game of the tournament. Wasn't out of position very often. And she finally started using her attacking skills to put stress on England's D.  :shrug:
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Exactly my thoughts. I said during the game she was having an excellent match. I think it was the first match we weren't otherwise mentioning her name. That's a huge positive.

 
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