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dgreen said:
I assume that means $33M remaining after adding Wentz? So they started with $61M?
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Assuming the @Commanders don't extend Carson Wentz, it looks like they could get out of his contract after this season at zero dead cap space. 

Remaining three years on contract: 

2022: Cap number of $28.2M
2023: Cap number of $26.1M
2024: Cap number of $27.2M”

“Reminder: Washington is looking to re-negotiate the Landon Collins contract. That's now crucial since Carson Wentz's $28.3 million cap hit eats into the majority of the team's $33 million cap space.”

 
PinkydaPimp said:
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Assuming the @Commanders don't extend Carson Wentz, it looks like they could get out of his contract after this season at zero dead cap space. 

Remaining three years on contract: 

2022: Cap number of $28.2M
2023: Cap number of $26.1M
2024: Cap number of $27.2M”

“Reminder: Washington is looking to re-negotiate the Landon Collins contract. That's now crucial since Carson Wentz's $28.3 million cap hit eats into the majority of the team's $33 million cap space.”
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Weird. I thought going into the offseason I was hearing how Washington had tons of cap space. I expected them to have much more than that.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Herbert, 5th?  No....

Rodgers, Stafford, Ryan, Lamar Jackson, Dak...10th? No....

is he better than Tannehill and Trevor?

I'll say 14th but mostly because so many teams are waiting to see what their recently drafted guys do.

He's not Top 10
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He's not top 10, he's not bottom 10.  He's in the range that equates to QB purgatory.  Good enough to give teams and fans hope, bad enough to routinely #### the bed.

 
Random pet peeve. Once the draft pick numbers are known, the pick number should be used instead of 2022 rd 2 generic pick name. I assume Wash 2 is much higher than Indy’s for example. Would be nice to see that expressed. /rant

 
IHEARTFF said:
Random pet peeve. Once the draft pick numbers are known, the pick number should be used instead of 2022 rd 2 generic pick name. I assume Wash 2 is much higher than Indy’s for example. Would be nice to see that expressed. /rant
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#42 instead of #47

 
The risk vs Reward seems on the surface like Washington did very well. 

Irsay didn't help the Colts recover a high pick by bad mouthing his QB but he sure didn't sugar coat it when he failed at the end of the season. 

Anyone know the exact beef between Irsay and Wentz or the Front Office and Wentz? I never heard the exact details. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Anyone know the exact beef between Irsay and Wentz or the Front Office and Wentz? I never heard the exact details. 
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It's all being spun now as "lack of leadership" and "respect of teammates".... predictably. Because they are both are nebulous claims that are typically leaked by the team and can't be proven one way or another. The exact same whispers are happening in ARZ now that they are starting the contract negotiation process with Kyler Murray. Shocking.

I find those claims kind of difficult to believe because leadership and respect of teammates were literally the reasons Wentz moved up draft boards in the first place. All that really matters are "W"s and Wentz came up one short to make the playoffs in IND. 

 
IHEARTFF said:
Random pet peeve. Once the draft pick numbers are known, the pick number should be used instead of 2022 rd 2 generic pick name. I assume Wash 2 is much higher than Indy’s for example. Would be nice to see that expressed. /rant
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In this case it's not that big a deal but I completely agree with you overall.

It ranks right up there with reporting the "POSSIBLE" salary numbers of a contract instead of the guaranteed salary numbers of a contract.

 
rockaction said:
You're putting way too much faith in the ability to find players in the third round. The second is one thing, but you only lose five spots. Is he your franchise QB you hoped for? No. But he's better than what you had, for sure. 
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I disagree with the comment on 3rd rounders in general, especially in THIS draft, but if it means WAS doesn't feel the pressure to completely reach for a QB in round 1 then this trade is worth it just based on drafting an actual first round talent instead of a 2nd round QB with a 1st round pick.

That said I'd still like to see the team draft a QB in the second if their guy was there. I don't see ANY of the QB's in the 2022 draft as ready to start in week #1 so having Wentz as an opening day starter makes all the sense in the world. Then he can prove if he's "good Wentz" or "bad Wentz". We have certainly seen both.

The fact they can simply cut ties with Wentz in 2023 if he turns out to be "bad Wentz" is what makes this move a slam dunk to me. The contract part is where people are losing sight of value in some of these QB conversations. I would rather have Carr... but am I really willing to give up 1st rounders AND give him a long term ~$45mil/season extension? Carr vs Wentz looks like an easy choice until you start factoring in the cost to acquire AND retain if it works out.

 
rockaction said:
The one big caveat: Both teams didn't want him because of off-the-field attitude, it seems. Like the Colts needed to talk to Carson repeatedly. 
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Or a team that embarrassed they didn't make the playoffs after giving up a 1st rounder for the guy. 

Reich was the OC in PHI with Wentz for multiple years(including a SB run and an MVP run). Is Wentz a completely different personality now then he was then? Otherwise they never would have traded for him in the first place. I get that sometimes players change their game after injuries(RGIII) but a complete personality change in such a short time seems unlikely to me.

This just seems like IND is blame shifting the entire reason IND missed the playoffs onto Wentz. Which btw they kind of did for Luck/Brissett back in 2019. And even two years ago Rivers leads the team to an 11-5 record and about 60-seconds of game clock from upsetting the Bills in BUF and the front office shows limited interest in bringing back Rivers presumably because he was what was holding the team back. I expect fans to fall into the trap of blaming everything on the QB but as a franchise IND seems to blame every shortcoming on their QB so I'm not at all surprised to hear "Wentz was the problem" out of Indy. IND is in danger of turning into the new den. "Our QB ate our homework".

 
foxco said:
Not a huge Wentz fan but seems like Washington didn't give much up at all for him, so not a huge disaster if it doesn't pan out, and could work out nicely if he gives them above average play. 
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If Wentz can be a cheaper version of Jimmy G then WAS should just focus on building everything up around him like SF has.

Focus on the secondary, WR, TE and OL in this draft. Don't reach for QB in a weak QB draft. In particular I think TE and OL could have some steals in the back half of this drafts. The WR "sleepers" all ran so fast you may not be able to wait quite as long on that position. Build weapons and protection for Wentz, or whoever comes next if you part ways with Wentz.

I'm much more excited for the 2022 draft now that WAS has acquired Wentz(even if WAS does end up using a 2nd rounder on a QB).

 
BoltBacker said:
It's all being spun now as "lack of leadership" and "respect of teammates".... predictably. Because they are both are nebulous claims that are typically leaked by the team and can't be proven one way or another. The exact same whispers are happening in ARZ now that they are starting the contract negotiation process with Kyler Murray. Shocking.

I find those claims kind of difficult to believe because leadership and respect of teammates were literally the reasons Wentz moved up draft boards in the first place. All that really matters are "W"s and Wentz came up one short to make the playoffs in IND. 
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There were reports of these same issues with Wentz in 2019 already.  A lot of the same issues have now come up with two different franchises.  :shrug:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/carson-wentz-exclusive-sources-paint-eagles-quarterback-as-selfish-not-team-player/

 
Okay, I decided I can't quit on this franchise I've loved for 4 decades...and maybe the trade isn't as awful as first perceived.

Taylor Heinicke 3419 Yards, 20 TDs, 15 INTs, 39.9 QBR (23rd in the NFL)

Carson Wentz 3563 Yards, 27 TDs, 7 INTs, 54.7 QBR (9th in the NFL) 

Carson IS an upgrade, and I guess in the big picture it's a 1 year rental if Carson can't resurrect his career.  I do hope Washington takes a QB in the 2nd round assuming one of the top 5 fall. Of course it would have been nice to NOT trade down in the 2nd to increase chances that a QB is there  :wall:

 
BoltBacker said:
Or a team that embarrassed they didn't make the playoffs after giving up a 1st rounder for the guy. 

Reich was the OC in PHI with Wentz for multiple years(including a SB run and an MVP run). Is Wentz a completely different personality now then he was then? Otherwise they never would have traded for him in the first place. I get that sometimes players change their game after injuries(RGIII) but a complete personality change in such a short time seems unlikely to me.
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Teams don't give up on a guy after giving up a 1st rounder because they're embarrassed.

Also, two teams who still need a QB have given up on him - including the OC he had his most success with. That should tell you something (and its not because they're embarrassed).

 
@G-King got my joke

And folks, I do think Wentz is a decent option for WFT and quite possibly an upgrade over Ryan Fitzpatrick who was going to be their No 1 last year. They now have a back up in Heinke who has valuable snaps and experience now whenever Wentz has to nurse one of his many injuries. It's a good fit is what I am saying. 

The comparison to Wilson is just to crack a few grins and grind a few teeth. 

:thumbup:

 
Amused to Death said:
Teams don't give up on a guy after giving up a 1st rounder because they're embarrassed.

Also, two teams who still need a QB have given up on him - including the OC he had his most success with. That should tell you something (and its not because they're embarrassed).
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I'm not saying they are giving up on him because they are embarrassed at all.

IMO they are giving up on him because they feel he is a bad fit for the organization... which is fine with me. Organizations that make a mistake and just move on from it are a good sign. The Rams are the perfect example of this when they gave terrible contracts to both Gurley and Goff. They were obviously mistakes but they didn't let those mistakes act as anchor by doubling down to prove they weren't mistakes. Maybe there were a ton of stories out there bad mouthing Goff when he left LA but I don't really remember them.

Telling a bunch of stories about Wentz on his way out of town absolutely is scapegoating him to cover for your own mistakes, however. Where exactly do you think those stories came from? Wentz? His agent? Saying they knew from the start of last training camp that Wentz wasn't going to work.... and then playing him enough snaps so that you lose a first rounder is even more embarrassing. Trying to spit on a guy as he leaves your facility because you made a mistake in acquiring him in the first place is even more embarrassing. In general I kind of like the Colts but this seems pretty classless and petty to me.

 
Tom Hagen said:
There were reports of these same issues with Wentz in 2019 already.  A lot of the same issues have now come up with two different franchises.  :shrug:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/carson-wentz-exclusive-sources-paint-eagles-quarterback-as-selfish-not-team-player/
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I guess we will find out soon enough.

Seems to me Mahomes "plays favorites" with Kelce all the time. Rodgers "plays favorites" with Adams. Bottom line, if Washington wins more than they did before he arrived NOBODY is going to care if Wentz targets McLaurin a ton. "Yeah, sure they are winning..... but why do they keep throwing it to McLaurin!?".

When I read,

"   His aw-shucks, overgrown-Opie-from-Mayberry routine plays well with the local and national media. Indeed, sources describe Wentz as “incredibly hard working,” “determined,” and “highly intelligent.” But the true Wentz is more nuanced and complicated, with sources describing him as “selfish,” “uncompromising,” “egotistical,” one who plays “favorites” and doesn’t like to be “questioned,” one who needs to “practice what he preaches" and fails “to take accountability.”     "

... it sounds like an exact description of Aaron Rodgers to me. But Rodgers wins so nobody cares. If Wentz wins nobody will care. I certainly wish that he would simply throw the ball away more often at this point in his career but if he refuses to do that WAS will just release him at the end of the season.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
And folks, I do think Wentz is a decent option for WFT and quite possibly an upgrade over Ryan Fitzpatrick who was going to be their No 1 last year. They now have a back up in Heinke who has valuable snaps and experience now whenever Wentz has to nurse one of his many injuries. It's a good fit is what I am saying. 
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The ironic thing is even if they keep Fitz and Wentz.... I don't think the pair can stay healthy for 17 games. Heinicke would still end up starting at some point. For that matter if Wentz is a bust and the season is starting to slip away they would be smart simply to play Heinicke rather than give Wentz 70% of the snaps. Wentz is on a shorter leash than many realize... if he's unwilling to run the offense he might be in the Josh Rosen club. That tends to humble a guy pretty quickly.

 
Frank reich spent two years in Philly with Carson Wentz.

If he was as bad as these rumors are, why would Reich trade for him?

 
Interesting to read all the thoughts on Wentz trade.  My gut on it:

Washington has floundered at QB ever since Cousins left and feel like they needed to "take some swings."  But taking swings doesn't always mean "getting a sure thing."  The last two years they tried to trade for Stafford and Wilson and failed...those were more "sure things."  But now, they are left with vets like Wentz and Garrapolo and/or drafting a rookie.  It's worth noting that none of the available options are sure things.  Funny that many WC fans would be all in trading for Garapolo or Tribusky but those guys have just as many questions as Wentz.  Ditto with a rookie.  Many WC fans would have no problem with the team drafting Malik WIllis even though we don't know if the guy has the throw accuracy to be a starting pro QB.

Wentz problems seem to be "between the ears." Can he tone down the recklessness of his play sometimes to avoid a turnover, or can he listen to criticism, or can he be a leader.  But in terms of arm strength, accuracy, big play potential -- essentially, playing the QB position physically, I think he may have more upside than Garapolo or Tribusky. JMO.  Maybe not more upside ultimately than a guy like Willis but WIllis could easily be a 50-50 shot as well...we've seen a lot of hyped first round QBs fade away...

So the question is:  Is it worth losing 2 3rd round picks to get a guy like Wentz who has had some success but who also needs to continue to grow?  Maybe so.  Mental experiment:  would you rather start Wentz without 2 3rd round picks or Taylor Heinicke with those extra picks.  I'd say, the way the league is right now, Rivera has correctly learned that you need an elite QB to compete, despite other role players on the roster.  Is it a risk that you have punted away two 3rds for nothing?  Yes.  Is it worth the risk?  Arguably so. THe point of play NFL Football is to win championships, not to go 8-9 every year like the WC will do if they never take a chance.

I personally believe they should also draft a guy in the first round.  Let's say WIllis is there.  The guy is absolutely a project.  Great athlete, cannon arm, but questions regarding accuracy of throws.  He may need a year learning in the pros. Take him and see what you got, even if you have Wentz. You can escape the Wentz contract after a year.

We can all pick this move apart but as a Commanders fan I'd rather my team go down in flames trying to do something vs. letting another year go by playing it so safe that 6-11 / 8-9 is all but assured.  They may end up there again anyway but at least try something...I appreciate that.

 
MikeApf said:
I personally believe they should also draft a guy in the first round.  Let's say WIllis is there.  The guy is absolutely a project.  Great athlete, cannon arm, but questions regarding accuracy of throws.  He may need a year learning in the pros. Take him and see what you got, even if you have Wentz. You can escape the Wentz contract after a year.
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I agree 100% but I'd say there is less than a 10% chance Willis is there at 11. By all accounts he blew teams out of the water at the combine. But I agree, if he's there take him and sit him like Mahomes for a year, otherwise take the best WR/CB/LB available and take Strong/Ridder/Howell if any are there in the 2nd. 

 
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ffmail4me said:
I agree 100% but I'd say there is less than a 10% chance Willis is there at 11. By all accounts he blew teams out of the water at the combine. But I agree, if he's there take him and sit him like Mahomes for a year, otherwise take the best WR/CB/LB available and take Strong/Ridder/Howell if any are there in the 2nd. 
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I would be happy w Strong/Ridder/Howell level in second.

Question is:  would you take Pickett or Corral at # 11 and then fill in with the WR/CB/LB in the second?  The pundits seem to have questions about all QBs in this class...

 
Wentz is an upgrade from Heinicke and maybe every QB they've had since Kirk Cousins.  So this could work out.  But the likelihood is it won't. 

I still hope they draft a QB.  Wentz is on a 1 year deal?  So he could be out the door next year if the draft pick looks good.

Seems there were cheaper way than trading for Wentz that gets the same results.  I'd rather have Winston for free.  Or even Turbisky for free.

Whatever.  At least they have a guy that can throw it 30 yards downfield.  Smith couldn't.  Heinicke can't.  And Haskins could but to the turf.

 
If I'm Washington I offer the 11th pick, Wentz, Payne (we likely can't afford him long term anyway) and a 1st next year for Watson.   :grad:

 
Who are we thinking they go after w pick 11, assuming they don't trade out of it?  I'm a firm believer they need a difference making TE and RB.  But those will have to wait until at least rounds 2 and 4.   ILB, S, and OG also being needs.  They could (and maybe should) go QB but I can't imagine that after Wentz trade.

Based on the mocks these players are potentially there...

1)  CB.  maybe Stingley or Gardner   ...  probably both good choices

2)  WR.  London or Wilson   ...  I don't know that they need a WR if Samuel plays.  Never hurts to have weapons though.

3)  ILB.  Devin Lloyd   ... don't know anything about him.  Just fills a glaring need.

 
I go WR without blinking. We've seen what a difference they can make to an offense in this pass happy NFL and we certainly haven't been able to count on anyone other than Terry. 

 
One item people may be missing on the QB issue:  Most likely, the Redskins were not getting Trubisky or Jamison.  If you were Trubisky, would you rather play for Pittsburg and Washington?  Everyone would pick Pittsburg every day.  So Washington has to overpay for a QB, and trading for him eliminates the possibility of being rejected.

All things considered, I don't have a problem with trading for Wentz.  I was rooting for Heinicke so much, but isn't a starting QB.

 
Giants just signed Ricky Seals Jones.  With Thomas working his way back from injury we need more at TE.  I've read that Wentz goes to the TE frequently.  This is a big hole.  It feels like we're off to a snails pace in free agency and are getting thinner at multiple positions. I hope Rivera has a plan...

 
MikeApf said:
Giants just signed Ricky Seals Jones.  With Thomas working his way back from injury we need more at TE.  I've read that Wentz goes to the TE frequently.  This is a big hole.  It feels like we're off to a snails pace in free agency and are getting thinner at multiple positions. I hope Rivera has a plan...
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I still have hopes for Bates and Reyes 

 
Brunell4MVP said:
Who are we thinking they go after w pick 11, assuming they don't trade out of it?  I'm a firm believer they need a difference making TE and RB.  But those will have to wait until at least rounds 2 and 4.   ILB, S, and OG also being needs.  They could (and maybe should) go QB but I can't imagine that after Wentz trade.

Based on the mocks these players are potentially there...

1)  CB.  maybe Stingley or Gardner   ...  probably both good choices

2)  WR.  London or Wilson   ...  I don't know that they need a WR if Samuel plays.  Never hurts to have weapons though.

3)  ILB.  Devin Lloyd   ... don't know anything about him.  Just fills a glaring need.
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#11 - There has been some interesting discussions on some of the podcasts that it would make a lot of sense for PIT to trade up to draft a QB here. That makes a lot of sense to me. Pick #11 for Pick #20+#52 works out in the trade calculator pretty cleanly as well. If they keep the pick my vote would be taking Linderbaum. It would have been nice if WAS had acquired Shaq Mason for a 5th round draft choice to replace(improve upon?) Scherff/Flowers but they didn't so OL is a glaring weakness and Linderbaum might be the most ready OLman in this draft ready to start in week#1.

#47 - I would be happy if Ridder/Corral/Howell were there because if Wentz isn't effective I don't think they should pass that magic 70% snap percentage and send IND a 2nd rounder. If all of them are gone Pitre might still be around and they DB help. If they don't go OL in the 1st round Darian Kinnard would probably fit the bill in round #2. 

LB - Lets hope they can move down in this draft and acquire another pick or two. Generally I like to mock either Christian Harris or JoJo Domann to them on day #2 of the draft. Both project to be 3 down LB's that can cover similar to the guys Rivera used in CAR.

 
MikeApf said:
Giants just signed Ricky Seals Jones.  With Thomas working his way back from injury we need more at TE.  I've read that Wentz goes to the TE frequently.  This is a big hole.  It feels like we're off to a snails pace in free agency and are getting thinner at multiple positions. I hope Rivera has a plan...
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There are some pretty good TE prospects that should slip to round #4. It's a shame they couldn't have signed OJ Howard for next to nothing. 

 
Marvelous said:
All things considered, I don't have a problem with trading for Wentz.  I was rooting for Heinicke so much, but isn't a starting QB.
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They way Wentz protects himself SOMEBODY else is going to get some starts at QB. Hopefully they add another guy into this equation even if it's a draft pick after round #1.

 
BoltBacker said:
#11 - There has been some interesting discussions on some of the podcasts that it would make a lot of sense for PIT to trade up to draft a QB here. That makes a lot of sense to me. Pick #11 for Pick #20+#52 works out in the trade calculator pretty cleanly as well. If they keep the pick my vote would be taking Linderbaum. It would have been nice if WAS had acquired Shaq Mason for a 5th round draft choice to replace(improve upon?) Scherff/Flowers but they didn't so OL is a glaring weakness and Linderbaum might be the most ready OLman in this draft ready to start in week#1.
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Seems highly unlikely that Pittsburgh trades up in the 1st to draft a QB.

 
ffmail4me said:
I still have hopes for Bates and Reyes 
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Bates did show good hands last year.  He can do more than block. I'm with you that I'd like to see him get more opportunities.

Reyes is a physical beast but obviously raw.  But maybe the coaches are ready to throw him into the fire.

 
Mister CIA said:
Seems highly unlikely that Pittsburgh trades up in the 1st to draft a QB.
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Maybe.

I also thought it was unlikely PIT would trade a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder to move from pick #20 up to pick #10 for a non-QB.

A couple of weeks ago I also would have thought it unlikely that a playoff team would put all their eggs in the Trubisky basket in 2022.

So you never know.

 
DallasDMac said:
Ioannidis not to happy...
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Seems to me they told McKissic to go out and find what his market price was and "we"(WAS) will match it. If they didn't release Ioannidis they would have been lying to McKissic as well. 

The reason they got a starting QB for 3rd rounders was his salary. Their 2022 cap took on a completely different landscape when they took the "cheap" trade that took a big chunk of their salary cap this season. Maybe that was a mistake by the team, maybe not. I will say that however Wentz performs this season is much more likely to determine if the 2022 season is a success or not much more than having a that strong #5 defensive lineman on the roster.

I'm not trying to bag on Ioannidis at all here, but when a team spends as many 1st round picks at WAS has over the past several year.... the handwriting was on the wall that this day was coming, no?

 
BoltBacker said:
I'm not trying to bag on Ioannidis at all here, but when a team spends as many 1st round picks at WAS has over the past several year.... the handwriting was on the wall that this day was coming, no?
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“They looked us straight in the eye, Rob Rogers, and Rob basically said to Jared and myself: ‘Absolutely not. We have no thoughts of releasing Matt Ioannidis,’” Herman told The Associated Press. 

If you plan to cut him, then don't lie to his face and cost him the first few days of free agency. That's a crappy way to treat someone that gave you that many good years.

 
DallasDMac said:
“They looked us straight in the eye, Rob Rogers, and Rob basically said to Jared and myself: ‘Absolutely not. We have no thoughts of releasing Matt Ioannidis,’” Herman told The Associated Press. 

If you plan to cut him, then don't lie to his face and cost him the first few days of free agency. That's a crappy way to treat someone that gave you that many good years.
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They didn't plan to cut him, based on the article you linked. They told him they had not thoughts of releasing him BEFORE they made the trade for Wentz which ate up a bunch of their cap space. 

Didn't they release him 2 days into FA? Maybe 3 days?

 
I wasn't a huge critic of the Wentz but what happened with that Mariota contract? Seems like I'd have taken my chances simply by signing Mariota for 2yr/$19mil. Based on everything I was listening to since the season ended I thought he was supposed to make more money than Winston. Did Mariota just panic and accept any contract after he saw all the landing spots dry up?

 
BoltBacker said:
I wasn't a huge critic of the Wentz but what happened with that Mariota contract? Seems like I'd have taken my chances simply by signing Mariota for 2yr/$19mil. Based on everything I was listening to since the season ended I thought he was supposed to make more money than Winston. Did Mariota just panic and accept any contract after he saw all the landing spots dry up?
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Seems very logical he might have. And I'm sure if we knew Ryan was going to be available we would have dealt 1 3rd rounder and taken his $24m salary over 2 picks for Wentz $28m...but this is the Watson domino affect...and Rivera was desperate to get a QB upgrade.

 
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ffmail4me said:
Seems very logical he might have. And I'm sure if we knew Ryan was going to be available we would have dealt 1 3rd rounder and taken his $24m salary over 2 picks for Wentz $28m...but this is the Watson domino affect...and Rivera was desperate to get a QB upgrade.
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One of the beautiful things about the Wentz contract is the team option for 2 extra years.  And if they exercise the team option Wentz is owed like $26M per year.  That's a bargain price for a playoff QB if that's what he turns out to be.  And if he doesn't, it's easy to move on. Wentz was a solid solution from a talent and contractual perspective.  Mariotta ... meh, he can hardly win starting jobs with teams he's been at.  Ryan...loved him 5 years ago but not now. I would have entertained Winston.  I think he's still got potential to be a good QB.   And Mayfield for sure if he's cheap but nobody knew that was coming when they got Wentz.

I'm all about having lots of options at QB until you find the guy.  If I was GM I'd draft a QB at #11 or 47.  Even if it was a flier like Sam Howell or Carson Strong at #47.  You have to keep trying until you find one capable of winning playoff games for several years. 

 
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He is a long time member of the billionaire boys club, which counts for a lot, and he is the owner that is so horrible that all other owners can be bad, 'but at least we don't have Snyder.' 

 
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