***Official*** Washington Redskins 2014 Thread (In-Season) (1 Viewer)

[Ted Mullins]

I am becoming very leery of NFL QB's with extreme running ability that propel them to do great things in college. Reasons:

-Their mental side of the game tends to be less developed because they have been successful relying on their running ability.

-Their running ability doesn't put them above other players nearly as much in the NFL as it did in college.

-They don't learn how to move in the pocket, because they are used to using their legs to start running rather than buy more time in the pocket

-Because of these first three, they have their first exposure to failure. Most of these QB's with great running ability have never had to overcome failure before the NFL and they don't know what to do.

Examples: Vick, Young, Tebow

Still Pending: Newton, Griffin, Manziel

On Deck: Winston

Right now, Griffin seems to be stuggling with failing for the first time in his life. We will see how he overcomes it.

In the NFL, you can't be a one trick pony because teams adjust and take that trick away from you. It's the QB's that can then adjust their game that are successful.

I'm thinking there's something to this as well. Not because a running QB *can't* be a good passing QB, but it seems like a lot of them are able to rely on their running ability to the point where they can use their speed so that they don't have to work on going through their reads in a messy pocket. I still think the ability to run is a tremendous asset, you just need it to be one part of the arsenal, not the main thing. I am not sure I'd classify Winston as one of these guys though, he doesn't run a ton and supposedly he was able to run a more complex offense in his first start than Manuel did as a senior - he seems like he has a ton of potential.

I think Robert clearly has a ton to work on but it really seems like Gruden is pretty much saying this guy can work in my system or GTFO. He's giving him some easy passes presumably with the intent of building his confidence up, but it doesn't seem like he's doing a lot to integrate the things that worked for Robert previously as a passer. When he goes out there and looks terrible it's easy to compare him to Tebow, but Robert threw the ball a lot with plenty of shots downfield while he was at Baylor, and Robert's rookie year was tailored to what works for him and his passing was plenty good.

I saw a tweet that was actually about Chip Kelly's offense/QBs that could make a lot of sense here - it doesn't matter if someone's a "system qb" if the offense works and is sustainable in the NFL. Not saying go back to Kyle Shanahan's offense, but maybe at least try to mesh Gruden's offense with what's worked previously for Robert and see if that helps. Right now that doesn't seem like it's going to happen though, and it makes me think that if Robert is going to succeed it'll be elsewhere.

 

[fatness]

No means no.

 

[Sebowski]

I have a bet with a 49er fan that the winner picks a song for the loser to singer at a karaoke bar the next day. So, yeah, I'm focused on San Francisco too. This means A LOT TO ME!!!!!

 

[MattFancy]

Super Bob press conference in about 10 minutes

Link if anyone wants to watch: http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/WATCH-LIVE-Robert-Griffin-III-At-The-Podium/2b2cd12a-6a9e-4969-acd8-2ca8f64e17bd

LOL! What?!?! Where's all that free flowing crap that usually spews from his mouth? I tried to defend him recently, but he's really turning in to a whiny 81tch lately. They should just cut him and move on. He's supposed to be an athlete but can't even perform a slide without breaking a bone. Players and the city have grown tired of his antics.

Based on your tone here I am dubious of the bolded.

He played very poorly in one game and then made some iffy word choices in his PC that were unfairly taken out of context by NBC and everyone else who decided to run with it as a story, as is explained here. He's still a talented guy who was rookie of the year two seasons ago when he posted on of the greatest rookie QB seasons in the history of the sport. You don't run a guy like that out of town based on one bad season when he was recovering from a torn ACL (and still posted a both a better passer rating and a better TD/INT ratio than the career marks of both Cousins and McCoy) and one awful game. No matter how angry this city's unreasonable football fans might get about that one awful game.

They can't all be Brady, but you'd never hear him speak like this. The problem with Griffin is it's always something like this. His mouth and his ego don't do him any favors. Defend him all you want, I mean it's not like he's not speaking the truth, but the great ones always find a way to put the blame on themselves the same way they put the team on their back and win games they shouldn't. If he ever starts doing that he'll be fine in this league. He's got to find a way to stay healthy first, however.

Maybe not Brady, but Peyton Manning sure as hell talks like that.

"Idiot kicker"

"We had protection problems"

There was an article on Deadspin yesterday, "What has RG3 said that Peyton Manning Hasn't?".

 

[fatness]

I have a bet with a 49er fan that the winner picks a song for the loser to singer at a karaoke bar the next day. So, yeah, I'm focused on San Francisco too. This means A LOT TO ME!!!!!

Please tell me you'll record this.

 

[fatness]

Redskins trying out tackles and guards now.

Derek Sherrod

Michael Bamiro

Edawn Coughman

Jordan McCray

Good thing we have roster depth.

 

[MattFancy]

Redskins trying out tackles and guards now.

Derek Sherrod

Michael Bamiro

Edawn Coughman

Jordan McCray

Good thing we have roster depth.

Our OL has been a problem for YEARS and it has never been addressed except for late draft picks and washed up guys in FA.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

oh great. i start my morning to Mcnabb commenting on the RG3 and Gruden relationship on NFL network.

 

[Ted Mullins]

No means no.

I wonder how many people are using this line when they're asked to renew their season tickets?

I have a bet with a 49er fan that the winner picks a song for the loser to singer at a karaoke bar the next day. So, yeah, I'm focused on San Francisco too. This means A LOT TO ME!!!!!

I'd either start warming up your throat or hide your buddy's cell phone so he can't get video.

 

[MattFancy]

No means no.

I wonder how many people are using this line when they're asked to renew their season tickets?

Thinking long and hard about not renewing mine. It's hard to support a product as flawed as the Redskins right now. That and the fact of when they're this bad, you have a hard time even giving tickets away.

 

[Ted Mullins]

Yeah, I am not in the area anymore but was offered tickets towards the end of last year while I was in town and declined - I am too much of a hermit on Sundays though, I prefer to watch from home and be able to watch RedZone too. I am way less diehard than most in here, I've kinda adapted to enjoying the good and detaching and focusing on fantasy during bad times.

I have always wondered if a substantial financial decline would ever make Snyder commit to getting things right? Seems like the team being so profitable might make the losing seasons much more tolerable, no? He seems to be better than the Cerrato days, but I'd still like to see him bring in a personnel-savvy GM that can put a good roster together (preferably not an old friend) and then have Snyder pretty much step aside and just sign the checks. Maybe that's naive? I don't know how common that is around the league, but it seems like that's what Bisciotti does in Baltimore?

 

[MattFancy]

Yeah, I am not in the area anymore but was offered tickets towards the end of last year while I was in town and declined - I am too much of a hermit on Sundays though, I prefer to watch from home and be able to watch RedZone too. I am way less diehard than most in here, I've kinda adapted to enjoying the good and detaching and focusing on fantasy during bad times.

I have always wondered if a substantial financial decline would ever make Snyder commit to getting things right? Seems like the team being so profitable might make the losing seasons much more tolerable, no? He seems to be better than the Cerrato days, but I'd still like to see him bring in a personnel-savvy GM that can put a good roster together (preferably not an old friend) and then have Snyder pretty much step aside and just sign the checks. Maybe that's naive? I don't know how common that is around the league, but it seems like that's what Bisciotti does in Baltimore?

I'd have faith in that happening, but we've been wanting this for years. This year has shown that Bruce Allen is not a GM. And until the team gets a real GM in here, we're always to go have this mess of a team.

 

[steelers1080]

I am becoming very leery of NFL QB's with extreme running ability that propel them to do great things in college. Reasons:

-Their mental side of the game tends to be less developed because they have been successful relying on their running ability.

-Their running ability doesn't put them above other players nearly as much in the NFL as it did in college.

-They don't learn how to move in the pocket, because they are used to using their legs to start running rather than buy more time in the pocket

-Because of these first three, they have their first exposure to failure. Most of these QB's with great running ability have never had to overcome failure before the NFL and they don't know what to do.

Examples: Vick, Young, Tebow

Still Pending: Newton, Griffin, Manziel

On Deck: Winston

Right now, Griffin seems to be stuggling with failing for the first time in his life. We will see how he overcomes it.

In the NFL, you can't be a one trick pony because teams adjust and take that trick away from you. It's the QB's that can then adjust their game that are successful.

I'm thinking there's something to this as well. Not because a running QB *can't* be a good passing QB, but it seems like a lot of them are able to rely on their running ability to the point where they can use their speed so that they don't have to work on going through their reads in a messy pocket. I still think the ability to run is a tremendous asset, you just need it to be one part of the arsenal, not the main thing. I am not sure I'd classify Winston as one of these guys though, he doesn't run a ton and supposedly he was able to run a more complex offense in his first start than Manuel did as a senior - he seems like he has a ton of potential.

I think Robert clearly has a ton to work on but it really seems like Gruden is pretty much saying this guy can work in my system or GTFO. He's giving him some easy passes presumably with the intent of building his confidence up, but it doesn't seem like he's doing a lot to integrate the things that worked for Robert previously as a passer. When he goes out there and looks terrible it's easy to compare him to Tebow, but Robert threw the ball a lot with plenty of shots downfield while he was at Baylor, and Robert's rookie year was tailored to what works for him and his passing was plenty good.

I saw a tweet that was actually about Chip Kelly's offense/QBs that could make a lot of sense here - it doesn't matter if someone's a "system qb" if the offense works and is sustainable in the NFL. Not saying go back to Kyle Shanahan's offense, but maybe at least try to mesh Gruden's offense with what's worked previously for Robert and see if that helps. Right now that doesn't seem like it's going to happen though, and it makes me think that if Robert is going to succeed it'll be elsewhere.

Agreed when it comes to Winston. The running QB of this class would be Mariota, not Winston. He runs less than Luck does, and Luck is considered a pocket passer. Not sure why Winston gets the rap as a Running QB except 1 reason...

 

[dhockster]

I am becoming very leery of NFL QB's with extreme running ability that propel them to do great things in college. Reasons:

-Their mental side of the game tends to be less developed because they have been successful relying on their running ability.

-Their running ability doesn't put them above other players nearly as much in the NFL as it did in college.

-They don't learn how to move in the pocket, because they are used to using their legs to start running rather than buy more time in the pocket

-Because of these first three, they have their first exposure to failure. Most of these QB's with great running ability have never had to overcome failure before the NFL and they don't know what to do.

Examples: Vick, Young, Tebow

Still Pending: Newton, Griffin, Manziel

On Deck: Winston

Right now, Griffin seems to be stuggling with failing for the first time in his life. We will see how he overcomes it.

In the NFL, you can't be a one trick pony because teams adjust and take that trick away from you. It's the QB's that can then adjust their game that are successful.

I'm thinking there's something to this as well. Not because a running QB *can't* be a good passing QB, but it seems like a lot of them are able to rely on their running ability to the point where they can use their speed so that they don't have to work on going through their reads in a messy pocket. I still think the ability to run is a tremendous asset, you just need it to be one part of the arsenal, not the main thing. I am not sure I'd classify Winston as one of these guys though, he doesn't run a ton and supposedly he was able to run a more complex offense in his first start than Manuel did as a senior - he seems like he has a ton of potential.

I think Robert clearly has a ton to work on but it really seems like Gruden is pretty much saying this guy can work in my system or GTFO. He's giving him some easy passes presumably with the intent of building his confidence up, but it doesn't seem like he's doing a lot to integrate the things that worked for Robert previously as a passer. When he goes out there and looks terrible it's easy to compare him to Tebow, but Robert threw the ball a lot with plenty of shots downfield while he was at Baylor, and Robert's rookie year was tailored to what works for him and his passing was plenty good.

I saw a tweet that was actually about Chip Kelly's offense/QBs that could make a lot of sense here - it doesn't matter if someone's a "system qb" if the offense works and is sustainable in the NFL. Not saying go back to Kyle Shanahan's offense, but maybe at least try to mesh Gruden's offense with what's worked previously for Robert and see if that helps. Right now that doesn't seem like it's going to happen though, and it makes me think that if Robert is going to succeed it'll be elsewhere.

Agreed when it comes to Winston. The running QB of this class would be Mariota, not Winston. He runs less than Luck does, and Luck is considered a pocket passer. Not sure why Winston gets the rap as a Running QB except 1 reason...

I stand corrected. I follow pro football more than college. I assumed (incorrectly) that part of the reason Winston won the Heisman was because he had great running skills.

 

[DCThunder]

I sure hope everyone is focused on San Francisco, because Super Bob is!!!

 

[RGIII HTTR]

I sure hope everyone is focused on San Francisco, because Super Bob is!!!

I'm too focused on San Francisco right now to know what other people are focused on.

 

[dgreen]

I have a bet with a 49er fan that the winner picks a song for the loser to singer at a karaoke bar the next day. So, yeah, I'm focused on San Francisco too. This means A LOT TO ME!!!!!

Please tell me you'll record this.

Why do you want to see his friend sing karaoke?

 

[dgreen]

No means no.

I wonder how many people are using this line when they're asked to renew their season tickets?

Thinking long and hard about not renewing mine. It's hard to support a product as flawed as the Redskins right now. That and the fact of when they're this bad, you have a hard time even giving tickets away.

I first got my tickets in 2004, first year of Gibbs 2.0. They were UL seats, of course. At the end of 2010, I started giving thought to giving them up. My kids love going, so it wasn't a fully serious thought because I love to take them. They each (3 kids) pick one game per year and sometimes get to go to a 2nd. After the 2010 season, I was upgraded to the LL, so I immediately moved on from thoughts of not renewing. LL is soooo much better.

Still really love taking kids to the game, and occasionally going to a game with my wife, but last Sunday I started to think, "Why do I do this? Maybe we won't renew next year."

I don't know. I'm going to the St Louis game with one of my sons in a couple weeks. I'll be out of town for Dallas and I honestly don't know what to do about the Philly game. I don't want to go and it is currently unaccounted for in my family (nobody picked that game to attend).

Next year? Like I said, after the TB game, I started to consider not renewing. My kids would get over it, but I'm sure I'll renew because, again, they really like to go and I really like to take them. But if the seemed indifferent to it? Maybe.

 

[Marvelous]

If im Bruce allen or danny boy im hiring a PR group to train the entire staff and players how to handle the media. These reporters are like wolves right now. And everyone from the coaches to the players are just giving them ammo.

The Redskins PR department has been a total disaster under Snyder. If you think the record on the field is bad, the PR department is far worse. This includes the whole gamut, from the team name, Snyder suing news outlets, to how players and coaches interact with the media.

 

[Marvelous]

Redskins trying out tackles and guards now.

Derek Sherrod

Michael Bamiro

Edawn Coughman

Jordan McCray

Good thing we have roster depth.

Our OL has been a problem for YEARS and it has never been addressed except for late draft picks and washed up guys in FA.

It could mean Williams and/or Lauvao will be out a while.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Nine year season ticket holder here, four years in club. Gave em up the year before we drafted Griffin. I still go to 3-4 home games but I hate Snyder.

 

[lod01]

I am becoming very leery of NFL QB's with extreme running ability that propel them to do great things in college. Reasons:

-Their mental side of the game tends to be less developed because they have been successful relying on their running ability.

-Their running ability doesn't put them above other players nearly as much in the NFL as it did in college.

-They don't learn how to move in the pocket, because they are used to using their legs to start running rather than buy more time in the pocket

-Because of these first three, they have their first exposure to failure. Most of these QB's with great running ability have never had to overcome failure before the NFL and they don't know what to do.

Examples: Vick, Young, Tebow

Still Pending: Newton, Griffin, Manziel

On Deck: Winston

Right now, Griffin seems to be stuggling with failing for the first time in his life. We will see how he overcomes it.

In the NFL, you can't be a one trick pony because teams adjust and take that trick away from you. It's the QB's that can then adjust their game that are successful.

I'm thinking there's something to this as well. Not because a running QB *can't* be a good passing QB, but it seems like a lot of them are able to rely on their running ability to the point where they can use their speed so that they don't have to work on going through their reads in a messy pocket. I still think the ability to run is a tremendous asset, you just need it to be one part of the arsenal, not the main thing. I am not sure I'd classify Winston as one of these guys though, he doesn't run a ton and supposedly he was able to run a more complex offense in his first start than Manuel did as a senior - he seems like he has a ton of potential.

I think Robert clearly has a ton to work on but it really seems like Gruden is pretty much saying this guy can work in my system or GTFO. He's giving him some easy passes presumably with the intent of building his confidence up, but it doesn't seem like he's doing a lot to integrate the things that worked for Robert previously as a passer. When he goes out there and looks terrible it's easy to compare him to Tebow, but Robert threw the ball a lot with plenty of shots downfield while he was at Baylor, and Robert's rookie year was tailored to what works for him and his passing was plenty good.

I saw a tweet that was actually about Chip Kelly's offense/QBs that could make a lot of sense here - it doesn't matter if someone's a "system qb" if the offense works and is sustainable in the NFL. Not saying go back to Kyle Shanahan's offense, but maybe at least try to mesh Gruden's offense with what's worked previously for Robert and see if that helps. Right now that doesn't seem like it's going to happen though, and it makes me think that if Robert is going to succeed it'll be elsewhere.

Running QBs are great in college but in the NFL everyone is fast and if (as a QB) you want long term success, you must be able to read a defense and pick it apart. It will always be that way. Stinkston doesn't run with the ball but the guy holds it way too long. Many of the plays he makes in college will be sacks in the NFL.

Just looking at this so called 'highlight' video displays this as clear as day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhH7yHDJQLE The 1st 3 'highlights' are sacks in the NFL. 0:36, sack, 1:20 sack, 1:44 sack.

 

[fatness]

I have a bet with a 49er fan that the winner picks a song for the loser to singer at a karaoke bar the next day. So, yeah, I'm focused on San Francisco too. This means A LOT TO ME!!!!!

Please tell me you'll record this.

Why do you want to see his friend sing karaoke?

I think Sebowski is really Fred Marshall.

 

[fatness]

If im Bruce allen or danny boy im hiring a PR group to train the entire staff and players how to handle the media. These reporters are like wolves right now. And everyone from the coaches to the players are just giving them ammo.

The Redskins PR department has been a total disaster under Snyder. If you think the record on the field is bad, the PR department is far worse. This includes the whole gamut, from the team name, Snyder suing news outlets, to how players and coaches interact with the media.

That Donovan guy who worked in the front office was absolutely horrible. Remember kicking fans out of the stadium for having critical signs and wearing critical shirts?

 

[fatness]

Lauvao practiced today. Williams did not. Jordan Reed did not. I swear if Reed was an insect he'd have at least 5 injured hamstrings.

 

[flapgreen]

If im Bruce allen or danny boy im hiring a PR group to train the entire staff and players how to handle the media. These reporters are like wolves right now. And everyone from the coaches to the players are just giving them ammo.

Good idea, except it would be Snyder and Allen doing the hiring so it would go badly. Look at their PR guy now, Tony Wyllie. He's utterly hated by the players and makes a fool of himself in public.

"No means no!"

That incident defines this team.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

Nine year season ticket holder here, four years in club. Gave em up the year before we drafted Griffin. I still go to 3-4 home games but I hate Snyder.

Hate is a mighty strong word, but I hear ya and it's a good indicator how a person after being dedicated (season ticket holder) for 9 years decides he has to take a step back. I'm sure many are holding on to them for the fact of possibly seeing a as the curiosity of seeing carnage on the side of the road/tracks is just too compelling to turn away from...

 

[Marvelous]

If Griffin plays well the rest of the season, maybe we can trade him for a 1st round draft pick? It can't work out much worse than showcasing Kirk Cousins at the end of last year.

 

[Dondante]

Nine year season ticket holder here, four years in club. Gave em up the year before we drafted Griffin. I still go to 3-4 home games but I hate Snyder.

Hate is a mighty strong word, but I hear ya and it's a good indicator how a person after being dedicated (season ticket holder) for 9 years decides he has to take a step back. I'm sure many are holding on to them for the fact of possibly seeing a as the curiosity of seeing carnage on the side of the road/tracks is just too compelling to turn away from...

Lol if hate is a strong word what's HTTR? I couldn't care less how you feel about either, but it's a strange stance to take consdiering your screen name.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

Nine year season ticket holder here, four years in club. Gave em up the year before we drafted Griffin. I still go to 3-4 home games but I hate Snyder.

Hate is a mighty strong word, but I hear ya and it's a good indicator how a person after being dedicated (season ticket holder) for 9 years decides he has to take a step back. I'm sure many are holding on to them for the fact of possibly seeing a as the curiosity of seeing carnage on the side of the road/tracks is just too compelling to turn away from...

Lol if hate is a strong word what's HTTR? I couldn't care less how you feel about either, but it's a strange stance to take consdiering your screen name.

Look at the signature....

Anyone who is a Redskins fan or knows anything about them will tell what it means. Thus, its in the signature for people like you.

 

[Dondante]

Nine year season ticket holder here, four years in club. Gave em up the year before we drafted Griffin. I still go to 3-4 home games but I hate Snyder.

Hate is a mighty strong word, but I hear ya and it's a good indicator how a person after being dedicated (season ticket holder) for 9 years decides he has to take a step back. I'm sure many are holding on to them for the fact of possibly seeing a as the curiosity of seeing carnage on the side of the road/tracks is just too compelling to turn away from...

Lol if hate is a strong word what's HTTR? I couldn't care less how you feel about either, but it's a strange stance to take consdiering your screen name.

Look at the signature....

Anyone who is a Redskins fan or knows anything about them will tell what it means. Thus, its in the signature for people like you.

Settle down with the cartoons, guy. I choose not to view signatures because of people like you.

 

[hammerva]

So I am listening to Super Bob's QB Guru Terry Shea on radio and holy crap. We finally found someone in this whole week that thinks the he played a 'really good' game. Actually a 'B' grade.

If this is the advice that he provides then it is more proof of how coddled Super Bob is. I guess being a guru for the Redskins or RG3 pays well

 

[Dondante]

So I am listening to Super Bob's QB Guru Terry Shea on radio and holy crap. We finally found someone in this whole week that thinks the he played a 'really good' game. Actually a 'B' grade.

If this is the advice that he provides then it is more proof of how coddled Super Bob is. I guess being a guru for the Redskins or RG3 pays well

I think coddled would be putting it mildly. He sure seems like he's from the Lebron school of entitlement.

 

[hammerva]

In a Albert Breer column today from Jay Gruden

"His biggest thing, he's been coddled for so long. It's not a negative, he's just been so good, he just hasn't had a lot of negative publicity," Gruden said.

MAN THAT'S COLD

But once again nobody is criticizing what he is saying they just have a problem with him actually saying it.

 

[jbz]

it's truth. Prior to last year, RG3 has never really experienced failure. He could chalk up last year as injury and Shanny related. He was gonna show us this year! Then injured again and hey, he isn't playing well again too. Might be the reality check he needs, but it might be too late.

 

[Swing 51]

What a friggin surprise - Jordan Reed out this week.

 

[CR69]

While Jay Gruden might be right, he again proves that he's a hypocrite. Didn't he just day earlier this week that this kind of stuff needs to stay in house? Now two days later he's giving an in depth interview on a single player on his team and absolutely tears him apart? WTF?

Whether or not RG3 is their QB of the future, this egotistical loudmouth has no future as a head coach in the NFL.

 

[Marvelous]

While Jay Gruden might be right, he again proves that he's a hypocrite. Didn't he just day earlier this week that this kind of stuff needs to stay in house? Now two days later he's giving an in depth interview on a single player on his team and absolutely tears him apart? WTF?

Whether or not RG3 is their QB of the future, this egotistical loudmouth has no future as a head coach in the NFL.

I am a big believer that coaches should give the non-answer answer to every question. Joe Gibbs had it mastered. You could get tidbits of what he was thinking if you listened really close. But for the most part, Gibbs gave nice, cordial, friendly answers without saying much. And he never criticized any his players publicly no matter how obvious it was.

 

[fatness]

Gruden's not really doing much to show he's a capable NFL head coach. His team is 3-7 and playing badly in multiple areas, he finds himself a whipping boy to blame, and keeps laying into the guy to divert attention from bad coaching and bad play elsewhere. Gruden looks at this time like he's lost.

The more scores the defense gives up on Sunday, the quicker Gruden will be to blame Griffin and yank Griffin. The worse the offensive line performs Sunday, the quicker he'll be to blame Griffin and yank Griffin. I mean, I hope I'm wrong about this, but Gruden seems to have sunk to a "don't know what to do, so blame Robert" level.

 

[fatness]

What a friggin surprise - Jordan Reed out this week.

That's on Robert.

 

[fatness]

Chris Baker out Sunday.

After the 49ers game and the Colts game we'll see if any players have checked out for the season already.

Chris Foerster and John Keim on Morgan Moses: http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/13125/learning-curve-redskins-ot-morgan-moses

Moses had a decent game last Sunday. He goes against Aldon Smith this Sunday.

 

[fatness]

Was Gruden's critique of RG3 a last-ditch effort to get QB to improve or just clumsy media handling by coach?

Keim's answer

Probably both. I also don't think he was happy about Griffin saying anything about what anyone else had to do after that Tampa loss. And I know there has been frustration over the pace of his development -- slowed, yes, by his injury. I don't know if I'd call it a last-ditch effort, but it certainly was not a first-ditch one. And I also think it was clumsy media handling. Few coaches ever publicly criticize a player the way Gruden did and while it's good for the rest of the team to know no player is above reproach, even those who might have issues with Griffin didn't like how it was handled. A rookie mistake.

 

[fatness]

This may or may not be highly significant but I found it to be interesting. Redskins opponents complete just 56 percent of their passes for 4.5 yards per attempt in the first quarter. In the second quarter, opposing QB’s are much more successful, completing 84.4 percent of their passes for 11.4 yards per attempt. It’s no wonder that they have given up just shy of nine points per game in the second quarter. Apparently offensive coordinators aren’t waiting until halftime to make adjustments against Jim Haslett.

http://realredskins.com/2014/11/22/need-to-know-opponents-adjusting-to-redskins-defense-well-before-halftime/

 

[Archer]

I am starting to think we might need both a better coach and QB for next season and beyond. And that is painful to admit. :(

 

[Jerry Curl]

While Jay Gruden might be right, he again proves that he's a hypocrite. Didn't he just day earlier this week that this kind of stuff needs to stay in house? Now two days later he's giving an in depth interview on a single player on his team and absolutely tears him apart? WTF?

Whether or not RG3 is their QB of the future, this egotistical loudmouth has no future as a head coach in the NFL.

Have to agree, loved the hire, not so much anymore.

How is it motivation to insult (regardless if true) your franchise QB by telling the media things that should be said behind closed doors. If you are that bad of a coach where closed door meeting do not help and you have to speak to the media to get your point across, its time for you to go. Its just sad its only 12 weeks into Grudens tenure that this happened. Part of me is wondering how much of Chucky is getting into his brothers head. This hard nose style dont work any more, ask Schiano.

None of this is going to make RG3 any better and will only make him worse. Great joy to know when Gruden is doen in Washington, he will never be a HC again. To think this guy was once hyped.

 

[fatness]

Good look at what the team needs to do against SF from Mike Jones. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/11/21/redskins-49ers-five-story-lines-to-follow-in-washingtons-week-12-matchup/

Griffin isn’t the only player in need of some mental fortitude. The Redskins had far too many mental errors against the Buccaneers — penalties, turnovers and blown assignments. The mistakes kept the offense from ever finding a rhythm. On defense, they led to a second-half collapse that helped put the game out of reach. They must take care of the ball on offense, lock in on defense, nail their assignments and force turnovers. The Redskins have said they understand the sense of urgency they need, but they didn’t show it last week.

It's a good read. "Run more" is of course one of the things in the article. I wish Gruden didn't give up on the run game so quickly.

 

[fatness]

Larry Michael is obnoxiously optimistic about the Skins every year. He's the ultimate homer. He was criticizing Redskin fans for booing and wearing critical T-shirts back near the end of Vinnie's tenure.

And even Larry Michael had seen enough last Sunday.

Even Larry Michael — the Redskins Minister of Happiness, Good Tidings and Subtly Airbrushed Super Bowl Optimism — has his breaking point. This week, it arrived.

“Well, it stinks worse than any of the previous [losses],” Michael said on ESPN 980 Monday morning, when reviewing Sunday’s home loss to Tampa Bay.

“They’re struggling, struggling bad right now,” Michael said of the Redskins.

“The locker room emptied out immediately after that game, immediately,” Michael said. “That was the quickest exodus I’ve ever seen.”

“Just pathetic mistakes everywhere you looked,” Michael said.

“Guys were falling apart all around [Robert Griffin III],” Michael said.

“That was really the lowest of the lows,” Michael said.

You should read some of the fan letters in that one.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Nine year season ticket holder here, four years in club. Gave em up the year before we drafted Griffin. I still go to 3-4 home games but I hate Snyder.

Hate is a mighty strong word, but I hear ya and it's a good indicator how a person after being dedicated (season ticket holder) for 9 years decides he has to take a step back. I'm sure many are holding on to them for the fact of possibly seeing a as the curiosity of seeing carnage on the side of the road/tracks is just too compelling to turn away from...

Lol if hate is a strong word what's HTTR? I couldn't care less how you feel about either, but it's a strange stance to take consdiering your screen name.

Hail To Tony Romo

 

[Marvelous]

Gruden's not really doing much to show he's a capable NFL head coach. His team is 3-7 and playing badly in multiple areas, he finds himself a whipping boy to blame, and keeps laying into the guy to divert attention from bad coaching and bad play elsewhere. Gruden looks at this time like he's lost.

The more scores the defense gives up on Sunday, the quicker Gruden will be to blame Griffin and yank Griffin. The worse the offensive line performs Sunday, the quicker he'll be to blame Griffin and yank Griffin. I mean, I hope I'm wrong about this, but Gruden seems to have sunk to a "don't know what to do, so blame Robert" level.

Not trying to pile on, but Gruden is really staring to look like Zorn. Except it took Zorn longer to get here.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Nine year season ticket holder here, four years in club. Gave em up the year before we drafted Griffin. I still go to 3-4 home games but I hate Snyder.

Hate is a mighty strong word, but I hear ya and it's a good indicator how a person after being dedicated (season ticket holder) for 9 years decides he has to take a step back. I'm sure many are holding on to them for the fact of possibly seeing a as the curiosity of seeing carnage on the side of the road/tracks is just too compelling to turn away from...

Lol if hate is a strong word what's HTTR? I couldn't care less how you feel about either, but it's a strange stance to take consdiering your screen name.