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***** Official Westworld Thread ***** (1 Viewer)

culdeus said:
They could easily have tied that photo off cleaner by implying he came back with her photo in a later trip, but whatever.  
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He was given the photo by Logan during their first trip. He wouldn't come back with it. There must be a reason why they specifically showed William losing it by the steeple. I guess it could be explained that he found it on a next trip and dropped it again at the Abernathy ranch but it just doesn't seem like something to key in on.

 
culdeus said:
Who knew she died?  Why weren't they looking into it?  
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They had Theresa laid out on a table talking about how she died and what she was doing when she died. Bernard cleaned up after himself and framed her for doing the same thing the loaner axe bot was doing.(stealing information) 

 
The Gator said:
culdeus said:
There were alot more cheesier elements. 

Nobody questions where Ellen Page (never got her name sue me) and Theresa went?  
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What? 

She died, everyone knows she died. 

The tech girl was "on leave" with two episodes left iirc, so just left open for now i guess. 
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IMO, still the odds on favorite to be the bot under construction in ford's hidey-hole. 

for me- putting aside culdeus not paying attention to things and then complaining about them- the cheesiest part was that tech girl went to investigate in the middle of the night, by herself, in what was essentially a cliche'd x-files/scooby-doo "scary" location. in the dark. at night. by herself.

 
The Gator said:
They had Theresa laid out on a table talking about how she died and what she was doing when she died. Bernard cleaned up after himself and framed her for doing the same thing the loaner axe bot was doing.(stealing information) 
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ok, this is coming back to me now.  Sorry.  Next time I'll take notes and make sure to upload my recaps for editorial review.

 
The Gator said:
This was the cheesiest part of the show imo. They had to show it falling out? We know it get's left behind. Then it stays is great shape over 30 years? If they just let you forget about it after Logan tucks it in Williams shirt, we still know it gets left behind. 
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Nah, Sylvester and Tweety Bird are still the cheesiest part of the show.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
If the maze is just a journey for the hosts towards enlightenment, how does it "present itself" to MIB after stabbing Maeve?  What is the point of it being on the inside of the scalp of the one host?  
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I mentioned this along with the apparent physical carve out of the maze that Maude laid in the middle of, holding her child in an early coming of sentient awareness and consciousness. 

 
Rewatch: EP3

Some things:

Teddy proposed bringing Dolores "to where the mountains meet the sea" before he gets the Wyatt upgrade.

Ford on Arnold "My business partners were more than happy to scrub him from the records" This might explain why Bernard was able to exist without anyone knowing or recognizing him. Or was there ever a real Arnold/

Is the blond snake lady in the dancing training original staff?

When Ford erases the blackboard to explain to Bernard the pyramid, he puts it within an erased circle. He also has a 4 part pyramid as opposed to Arnolds 3. Memory, Improvisation, Self Interest. No self interest when Arnold explains it to Dolores.

Still don't get who Wyatt's masked people are. Teddy couldn't kill them with his gun.

Where was Dolores coming from when she stumbled into William and Logan's camp? This was probably the biggest question mark from a first time view and still no idea now. Either it was on the route from her normal divergence from her loop or Ford purposely sent her to meet William. I think the latter, possibly to lure him as an investor.

 
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Leeroy Jenkins said:
If the maze is just a journey for the hosts towards enlightenment, how does it "present itself" to MIB after stabbing Maeve?  What is the point of it being on the inside of the scalp of the one host?  
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 Maeve carrying her dead child was the first time he had seen one act that way.   He realized they could possibly come alive and make their own decisions. I'm guessing that was tied into the feelings he once has for Delores.  She didn't remember him when he found her and that upset him.  He wanted the hosts to be able to make their own decisions. 

 Don't know why they decided to put in inside the scalp of the host.  Ford may have put it there for the MIB to find so he could help Delores carry out the task and wake up. 

 
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culdeus said:
I really can't imagine how they stretch this out for 5 seasons if they don't leverage the other worlds in some way.  I mean who is gonna go to a theme park where the workers are gonna try to kill you?  If I wanted to be shot at I'd just go to Chicago and leave the extra 200k to my kids.

Another sort of gap in the story is the ammo used to be basically blanks.  How did they get real ammo?  
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That's not a gap.  I'm sure Ford equipped then with real ammo.  They can't show every detail.   You're getting into the "who's mowing the grass?"  type stuff with that.  

 
I started binging this last week using Directv's On Demand (every episode was listed as available). I finished episode 4. 

Yesterday I went to continue with E5, and only saw E1 available On Demand. 

Did they pull it from On Demand? I can't imagine they would this quickly. Anyone else with Directv have this issue?

 
I just finished the season.  Really enjoyed the last 3-4 episodes a lot.  Basically everything from the Bernardbot reveal through the end.

Still, there were a few things that bothered me.  Hopefully not just being Culdeus here....

1) I thought the MIB/William thing was poorly handled.  William turned too fast to be believable.  He went from nice guy to violent super villain mass murderer literally overnight.  They had a chance to show him evolve more but sacrificed it for a "big reveal" that everyone had pretty much already predicted anyway.  

A perfect example is when they were down by the river with the wounded soldier.  William thought they needed to keep moving as time was an issue but Dolores wanted to stay and help.  She turns her back and walks over to the river and I thought for sure William was going to finish him off while her back was turned and pretend he died naturally.  But nope, he doesn't and then the guy conveniently dies of his wounds.

And yeah, that scene from the middle of the season where they edited it to make it look like Dolores was running directly from her encounter with MIB into William's camp for safety was a low-blow.

2) Bernard = Arnold.  You mean to tell me that no one working at this big famous company has any idea what the co-founder of the company looks like?  No one saw an old press release about the creation of the park and was like "hey, that guy looks exactly like the head of programming we have now"?  Heck, Ford had a picture of Arnold sitting on his desk and people were in and out of that room all the time.  No one wondered why a clearly same-aged Bernard was standing next to a clearly 30 years younger Ford in an old picture?

I mean, this is essentially like if Mark Zuckerberg died tomorrow, and 20-30 years from now the lead programmer for Facebook is a Mark Zuckerberg robot and no one notices the similarities.  That's some pretty big suspension of disbelief.

3) What was with Teddy knocking MIB unconscious with bullets in one of the last episodes?

In episode 1 Teddy shoots a whole clip into MIB and the bullets just bounce off him, don't even make him flinch or wince.  Then in either the last episode or second to last, when MIB is fighting Dolores and has the upper hand, Teddy rides in and shoots at MIB and the bullets basically act like rubber bullets.  They don't break the skin but they hurt him, knock him down, and even knock him unconscious.  Am I remembering that scene wrong or did they totally change how the host guns work?

 
I finished this last night, binged it over about 2 weeks.  I thought is was very good, very entertaining, despite some difficult to ignore plot problems.

This thread was somewhat confusing to me, but I won't Hipple it now - just to say, why refer to "2 timelines" or multiple timelines? It makes it much easier for me to understand if you just speak in terms of the present + flashbacks, with one timelime - right?  The only difference with this being the hosts don't age, so there's an added layer of difficulty.

Also, its "Dolores".

 
Mediocre show at best.  Nothing thought provoking or clever about any of this.   :rolleyes:

Seen most of the ideas in this show in one form or another in comics/other shows before.

Should've just made a imax movie instead.

 
Paulymaggs said:
Mediocre show at best.  Nothing thought provoking or clever about any of this.   :rolleyes:

Seen most of the ideas in this show in one form or another in comics/other shows before.

Should've just made a imax movie instead.
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Damn it!  I can't enjoy it anymore after this. 

 
Paulymaggs said:
Mediocre show at best.  Nothing thought provoking or clever about any of this.   :rolleyes:

Seen most of the ideas in this show in one form or another in comics/other shows before.

Should've just made a imax movie instead.
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Show is over guys - it was a run :kicksrock:

 
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Just got done binging this. Really liked it a lot. Loved the myriad of details within the story that kept you guessing right up until the end. Really well done. Also loved seeing Yul Brynner's Gunslinger in the background during the sixth episode.

I agree I'm cautiously optimistic about the second season. Not sure how compelling an entire season of the bots now being in charge will be and I'm also a bit concerned that Ed Harris' character will become some invincible superman who can never be killed.

But I'll definitely be tuning in to find it all out. Season 1 was exceptional.

 
McJose said:
See that clump of tumbleweeds over there?  That's where we shared our first kiss...and our first dip of Skoal. 
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Wrong girl, the Ridgecrest one was the crazy one.  RacistEx was the chewer. 

 
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