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*** OFFICIAL WIS XVI Draft Thread *** (1 Viewer)

'Koya said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
'scoobus said:
:popcorn: Reading through the WIS II draft thread is quite interesting, like a look into the history.Can anyone talk about what people are referring to when they say LB cheated/ratted people out in the first one? A link would suffice.Also, does anyone have a greater backstory on Mr. Harrier's demise? The guy seems to have thought very highly of himself, at least in the WIS II thread. Again, links to posts in subsequent drafts would be welcome.
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pics were allowed at that time...they figured (basically correctly) that at 250 pages no admins would be watching what they were posting...I still didn't feel it was appropriate, so i reported the posts...as far as the cheating. I accidentally picked the wrong year (partial/full insanity of "pick the third best year") and no one realized 'til halfway through the season.
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The accidental cheating I could deal with. The ratting out still erodes any confidence we can have when LBs in a draft. Seriously, even though it's years and years ago, you just don't report something like that.
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Gotta admit LB, this was a pretty effed up move.
 
'rodg12 said:
'Koya said:
'larry_boy_44 said:
'scoobus said:
:popcorn: Reading through the WIS II draft thread is quite interesting, like a look into the history.Can anyone talk about what people are referring to when they say LB cheated/ratted people out in the first one? A link would suffice.Also, does anyone have a greater backstory on Mr. Harrier's demise? The guy seems to have thought very highly of himself, at least in the WIS II thread. Again, links to posts in subsequent drafts would be welcome.
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pics were allowed at that time...they figured (basically correctly) that at 250 pages no admins would be watching what they were posting...I still didn't feel it was appropriate, so i reported the posts...as far as the cheating. I accidentally picked the wrong year (partial/full insanity of "pick the third best year") and no one realized 'til halfway through the season.
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The accidental cheating I could deal with. The ratting out still erodes any confidence we can have when LBs in a draft. Seriously, even though it's years and years ago, you just don't report something like that.
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Gotta admit LB, this was a pretty effed up move.
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oso doesn't care for that kind of talk, okay?
 
I give larry_boy a retroactive pass because that move steered us into the BBT era for WIS II, III, and IV. And I got a free :ptts: from Hoss.

 
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'oso diablo said:
'RnR said:
oso doesn't care for that kind of talk, okay?
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attack the behavior*, not the person. we're all grown men here. I would hope we could express ourselves maturely. Nipsey's post was immature.*what sort of photos are we talking about?
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Ladies.As for the Nipsey comment, I'm pretty sure Larry made comments in a thread on being attracted to males but not acting on it that led to Nipsey's description.
 
In which I give a random fact about everyone on my team:

2B Eddie Collins -

Under the win shares statistical rating system created by baseball historian and analyst Bill James, Collins was the greatest second baseman of all time.

SS Joe Cronin -

Cronin was named player-manager of the Senators in 1933, a post he would hold for two years. In 1935, he was traded to the Boston Red Sox by Griffith, also as player-manager.

1B Bill Terry -

Nicknamed "Memphis Bill", he is most remembered for being the last National League player to hit .400, a feat he accomplished by batting .401 in 1930.

3B Al Rosen -

Rosen played for the 1946 Pittsfield Electrics, where he was initially given a back-up role. Upon leading the Canadian-American League in home runs (16) and RBIs (86), while batting .323, however, he became known as the "Hebrew Hammer".

CF Joe DiMaggio -

DiMaggio was a three-time MVP winner and an All-Star in each of his 13 seasons. During his tenure with the Yankees, the club won ten American League pennants and nine World Series championships.

RF Wally Berger -

One of the league's top sluggers of the early 1930s, in his initial 1930 season he hit 38 home runs, a record for rookies which stood until 1987.

LF Amos Otis -

He hit .478 with 3 home runs and 7 runs batted in the 1980 World Series and set a record for putouts in a game by an outfielder in Game 3, a contest in which he also homered.

LF Len Koenecke -

After being sent home from the road trip he caught a commercial flight for New York. During the flight he drank a quart of whiskey and became very drunk. After harassing other passengers and striking a stewardess, the pilot had to sit on him to restrain him as he was shackled to his seat. He was removed unconscious from the flight in Detroit. After sleeping on a chair in the airport he chartered a flight to Buffalo. While flying over Canada he had a disagreement with the pilot and a passenger and attempted to take control of the aircraft. In order to avoid a crash he was hit over the head by both the pilot (who had left his controls) and the other passenger with a fire extinguisher.[4] After an emergency landing on a racetrack it was found that Koenecke had died of a cerebral hemorrhage.

C Tim McCarver -

In 1966, McCarver was named to the All-Star Team, scored the winning run in the 10th inning of that 1966 All-Star Game, and became the first catcher to lead the National League in triples, with 13.

C Pat Borders -

In the 1992 Series, he hit .450 with one home run en route to winning the World Series MVP award.

1B/OF John Kruk -

Kruk's breakout year was 1987 with the Padres. He hit .313 with 20 home runs and 91 RBI, and stole 18 bases, showing surprising speed for someone of his build, although he was caught ten times. He was featured as a backup on the National League All-Star Team in the Nintendo game, R.B.I. Baseball.

3B Bill Madlock -

Madlock was a right-handed hitter who won several National League batting titles. His record of four batting titles as a third baseman would be eclipsed in 1988 by Wade Boggs.

OF Gary Pettis -

During his career, Pettis consistently hit for low averages and was known for striking out often, but he performed extremely well on defense, earning five Gold Glove Awards.

OF **** Wakefield -

Wakefield was the first of the "Bonus Babies," and his bonus was "more than the aggregate amount that the entire starting lineup for many major league teams earned in a season." (Nemec and Zeman, "The Baseball Rookies Encyclopedia" p. 179.)

P Orval Overall -

As of 2012 2013, he remains the last man to be on the mound for the last out in a World Series clinching game for the Chicago Cubs.

P Reb Russell -

Russell developed arm trouble in 1918 and after a poor start that season, he was released by Chicago. However, in the minor leagues the decent-hitting Russell converted to playing the outfield and returned to the major leagues in 1922 playing that position for the Pittsburgh Pirates. That year, he batted .367 with 75 RBI in 60 games.

P Carl Mays -

Despite impressive career statistics, he is primarily remembered for throwing the beanball that killed Ray Chapman of the Cleveland Indians on August 16, 1920. Chapman became the only major league player to die as a direct result of an on-field injury.

P Cy Blanton -

In his 1935 rookie season he recorded 18 wins with 142 strikeouts and led the National League in earned run average (2.58) and shutouts (4).

P Jon Matlack

Matlack was an All-Star for the Mets for the next three seasons (1974-1976), sharing MVP honors in the 1975 game with Bill Madlock.[9] In 1976, Matlack went 17-10 with a 2.95 and a league leading six shut outs to finish sixth in N.L. Cy Young Award balloting.

P Darren Holmes -

He was taken by the Colorado Rockies in the expansion draft.

P Larry Andersen -

In 1990, he was traded to the Red Sox for minor league prospect Jeff Bagwell.

P Todd Frohwirth -

Frohwirth didn't throw hard, but he employed a Dan Quisenberry-like submarine motion (he also threw side-armed to bases after fielding batted balls) which made it hard for batters to get a read on his pitches. That delivery, combined with a sinking fastball and slider, often prompted hitters to beat his offerings into the ground and made him extremely difficult to hit home runs off of for most of his career.

P Harry Coveleski -

Over a span of five days at the end of the 1908 season, he beat the New York Giants three times, which enabled the Chicago Cubs to catch the first-place Giants in the NL standings and force a replay of the "Merkle's Boner" game. Thereafter, Coveleski was called "The Giant Killer".

P Woodie Fryman -

A two-time National League All-Star, he is best remembered as the mid-season acquisition that helped lead the Detroit Tigers to the 1972 American League Championship Series.

P Rod Dibble -

On June 4, 1989, Dibble struck out three batters on nine pitches in the eighth inning of a 5–3 win over the San Diego Padres. Dibble is one of 41 pitchers in Major League history to accomplish the nine-strike/three-strikeout half-inning, a feat known as an immaculate inning.

 
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'Doctor Detroit said:
'oso diablo said:
other concepts for future drafts:1. Last Season (the mirror image to the First Season draft)2. Deadball hitters and steroid era pitchers 3. Here's one i've been noodling over the past few days... limit season pool to years that end with a 3 (since this is 2013), so you'd have 2003, 1993, etc (going as far back as everyone is comfortable). Require each team to pick at least one hitter and one pitcher in each of the possible "xxx3" seasons.4. As a lefty myself, i really wanted to do a Lefties Only draft, but there aren't nearly enough catchers and middle infielders. You can get close if you expand the definition to include hitters that bat lefty (or switch) even if they throw righty.
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#### three, the database search would be hell.
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There is a spot in the search where you can put in which years you want to look up. I think you can add as many years as you want. Click the swirly sign next to seasons and add the years with a ; in between each year
 
'oso diablo said:
4. As a lefty myself, i really wanted to do a Lefties Only draft, but there aren't nearly enough catchers and middle infielders. You can get close if you expand the definition to include hitters that bat lefty (or switch) even if they throw righty.
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Oh, there's plenty of lefties at those positions. Lots of them are awful, but they're there. Plus, you can always Larry It Up and play Tony Gwynn in the infield. Adds some interesting strategy IMO.
 
Here are all the World Series appearances (translating WIS names into current FBG names):

WIS I - pumpnick over mrharrier 4-2

WIS II - Spartans Rule over Koya 4-2

WIS III - dirtyhalos over Mr. Pickles 4-2

WIS IV - RnR over Doug B 4-3

WIS V - Koya over eephus 4-3

WIS VI - Kraft over Doctor Detroit 4-3

WIS VII - Kraft over eephus 4-3

WIS VIII - Doug B over eephus 4-1

WIS IX - Koya over Notorious T.R.E. 4-3

WIS X - eephus over SoCalBroncoFan 4-0

WIS XI - jfranco over Spartans Rule 4-2

WIS XII - Brady Marino over pumpnick 4-1

WIS XIII - Hoos First over oso diablo 4-2

WIS XIV - Doug B over Doug B 4-1

WIS BTTF 2011 - Arsenal of Doom over Notorious T.R.E. 4-2

WIS XV - Doctor Detroit over jfranco 4-0

WIS BTTF 2012 - scoobus over jfranco 4-3

...

Is Mr. Phoenix still around?
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suck it, pickles!
 
For some reason, the sim let Mike Fetters go 3 IP. He has 63 IP total in the season, and his stamina is down to 0 (12). Why WIS did it...who the #### knows.

 
Going to my son's basketball game right now, but will be home later from 7:00 EST till the wee hours of the morning if anyone wants to sim live. Send me a PM or text me at (909) 297-9119 to let me know you want to play. :)

 
'Chemical X said:
Kevin Appier 100 6.0 10 17 16 13 2 3 176 24.00
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No more mop-up role. At least no an "unlimited pitches" role. When Appier first entered the game, he allowed 1 run over his first four IP. Then he got tired, didn't get pulled, and the floodgates opened.From here on, Appier is in long relief, but can enter the game in any IP. But he'll be on a (longish) pitch count like all the other pitchers.
 
Pitcher Role % G W-L SV IP ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $

Gary Nolan 3 0-1 0 4.2 17.36 .400 2.57 5.79 7.71 4.31M

Tom Cheney 6 0-0 1 7.1 12.27 .281 1.91 6.14 6.14 4.06M

Sergio Valdez 4 0-1 0 3.0 15.00 .412 2.33 3.00 0.00 1.19M

Steve Mingori 4 0-1 0 5.0 12.60 .409 2.40 3.60 5.40 1.90M

 
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