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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Shaping up just like last season with the Indians taking the WhiteSox place on top. Good thing the Tigers have played the AAAstros 7 times or they could be under 500 right now.
Other than V-Mart just killing the middle of the order the team been very good at the plate. I always though V-Mart was way too good of a hitter to be struggling the way he has been.
Other than V-Mart just killing the middle of the order the team been very good at the plate. I always though V-Mart was way too good of a hitter to be struggling the way he has been.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Really can't afford to lose Austin Jackson, definitely understand the precautionary DL to prevent something much worse from happening.
Won't beat them for Jay-Honey like I did the last 2 years though. They wanted to upgrade the position, just couldn't.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
How long before the Triple Crown talk starts up again? How amazing is it that he's in the hunt again (early as it is)?
But our pitching in that series - ugh. Fister didn't have it ...Leyland should have pulled him earlier. He wasn't going to regain his form 100 pitches into the game. Thank goodness we've got Porcello to carry the team along.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Dear Tiger fans.... please talk me out of thinking this is a viable option for my fantasy teamThank goodness we've got Porcello to carry the team along.
TIA
Doctor Detroit
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Fister never gets hit hard though, another game with some ridiculously lucky hits. With Sanchez and Verlander you have to give credit to the Rangers who are hot right now but Fister is more unlucky when he's bad than he is ineffective. His BABIP is almost .340 right now which is 40 points higher than his career/ML average. Mostly he has looked really good IMO, last night he was just ok but not as bad as his final line (same with the Nats game).
How long before the Triple Crown talk starts up again? How amazing is it that he's in the hunt again (early as it is)?
But our pitching in that series - ugh. Fister didn't have it ...Leyland should have pulled him earlier. He wasn't going to regain his form 100 pitches into the game. Thank goodness we've got Porcello to carry the team along.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
His last three starts: 2.89 ERA, 0.97 WHIP, .209 BA against.Dear Tiger fans.... please talk me out of thinking this is a viable option for my fantasy teamThank goodness we've got Porcello to carry the team along.
TIA
Take out the fiasco against LAA in April (9 runs allowed in less than an inning of work), and he has been decent in six starts. He's thrown at least 90 pitches in each, and averaged 97 ...seems to have a little more endurance than in the past.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
You always had good luck when Max was on your team, why not take a chance?Dear Tiger fans.... please talk me out of thinking this is a viable option for my fantasy teamThank goodness we've got Porcello to carry the team along.
TIA
Bogart
Footballguy
Fister never gets hit hard though, another game with some ridiculously lucky hits. With Sanchez and Verlander you have to give credit to the Rangers who are hot right now but Fister is more unlucky when he's bad than he is ineffective. His BABIP is almost .340 right now which is 40 points higher than his career/ML average. Mostly he has looked really good IMO, last night he was just ok but not as bad as his final line (same with the Nats game).
How long before the Triple Crown talk starts up again? How amazing is it that he's in the hunt again (early as it is)?
But our pitching in that series - ugh. Fister didn't have it ...Leyland should have pulled him earlier. He wasn't going to regain his form 100 pitches into the game. Thank goodness we've got Porcello to carry the team along.
The two doubles that Beltre hit, which accounted for three runs in one way or another, were the weakest, strangest doubles you could hit.
I felt really bad for Coke, he deserved better. 4 bonehead plays on defense in one single inning.
I don't get to watch Detroit much, but after watching all four games, I can see why you guys bang your head so much in this thread. Miggy was great with three HRs, but the play that sticks out to me was him failing to cover third on the bunt. Felt like a lot of hits up the middle of the infield and to the left side that more mobile infielders would have gotten to. Don't get me wrong, I would sell my soul to have Miggy on my team, but I would hope my GM would build a team to cover up what he doesn't do as well.
And man I hope V-Mart is spending overtime handing out Leadership, because he doesn't deserve to hit fifth in this lineup right now. It's like a reward if you can get past Miggy and Prince.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
And the answer turns out to be: 'today.' SI On-line has an article on Cabrera and reviews the follow-up seasons of previous Triple Crown winners.tri-man 47 said:
Gopher State
Footballguy
tigers vs tribe hmmmmmm we see who's real and who's not, my money is on the tigers
tri-man 47
Footballguy
good stuff on Miguel (SI online, again):
"What will he do next? Cabrera could win a second straight Triple Crown, he could finish with more extra base hits than strikeouts (which he has done through a quarter of the season), he could join Manny Ramirez as the only hitters with 162 RBIs in the past 75 years or he could join Rogers Hornsby as the only righthanded hitters in the past 100 years to win three straight batting titles. Anything seems possible when you're talking about the undisputed best hitter in the game at the peak of his career.
"I know this," said Tigers manager Jim Leyland, "there's never been anyone in the history of baseball with more opposite field power than Miguel Cabrera. Nobody."
The most amazing part of his three-home run game Sunday night was that Cabrera was behind on the count 0-and-2 three times -- and went single, homer, homer in those three at-bats. He saw 13 pitches with two strikes: he took seven for balls, fouled off three and smashed the other three for hits."
"What will he do next? Cabrera could win a second straight Triple Crown, he could finish with more extra base hits than strikeouts (which he has done through a quarter of the season), he could join Manny Ramirez as the only hitters with 162 RBIs in the past 75 years or he could join Rogers Hornsby as the only righthanded hitters in the past 100 years to win three straight batting titles. Anything seems possible when you're talking about the undisputed best hitter in the game at the peak of his career.
"I know this," said Tigers manager Jim Leyland, "there's never been anyone in the history of baseball with more opposite field power than Miguel Cabrera. Nobody."
The most amazing part of his three-home run game Sunday night was that Cabrera was behind on the count 0-and-2 three times -- and went single, homer, homer in those three at-bats. He saw 13 pitches with two strikes: he took seven for balls, fouled off three and smashed the other three for hits."
Doctor Detroit
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Retired 22 straight, that ain't bad. Jose had the splitter working again tonight but I still don't trust him.
I like this Cabrera kid we picked up, he just might stick in the bigs.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Cameron Maybin and Andrew Miller were too much to give up for him. You just can't go around trading away your farm system!Retired 22 straight, that ain't bad. Jose had the splitter working again tonight but I still don't trust him.
I like this Cabrera kid we picked up, he just might stick in the bigs.
skillz
Footballguy
Valverde is still a mess. I just hope they make a move by the trade deadline because he isn't the answer. Drives me nuts how he can't hold any runners on so once a hitter gets to first he is pretty much guaranteed to get in scoring position. Where is Jason Grilli when you need him? 
Doctor Detroit
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Jeff Jones better figure out what the #### is wrong with Verlander, it isn't something physical. Does anyone think his motion looks different? Looks like there is more movement there now. Anyone?
Gopher State
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I have no idea what is wrong but yes his motion and whole demeanor on the mound looks different. Looks like he has no confidence at all in his pitches. 100 pitches and 10 hits in 4 innings??
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Hopefully they can still escape with the win, storms notwithstanding. (Did rain or approaching storms affect JV in the bottom of the fourth? He had settled down nicely in the third, then got rocked. Rushing to be the weather? Just tired?)
Maybe JV needs to skip a start to rest or work on form. Blasphemy, I know, but they have plenty of arms - let Smyly fill a slot.
Maybe JV needs to skip a start to rest or work on form. Blasphemy, I know, but they have plenty of arms - let Smyly fill a slot.
Doctor Detroit
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Well he refused to look at the tape of the Texas game. Ok. Does he own the franchise now???
He better look at some ####### tape tomorrow, he's moving his head or upper body and Tre said he's landing more on the first base side. I don't get paid to figure out what's wrong, Jeff Jones does. Make him watch the tape Jeff, your employer finds it appropriate.
Doctor Detroit
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Miggy just Bourned the Tribe! 
Doctor Detroit
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The two splitters Potato threw to Santana looked like the bottom completely dropped out of them, haven't seen that since 2010. 94-95 mph fastball, splitter looks awesome and when he throws strikes he looks pretty damn good to me.
Holding on runners is a legitimate problem, but he is pitching darn well. I would not say he is a mess. He stabilized the bullpen.Valverde is still a mess. I just hope they make a move by the trade deadline because he isn't the answer. Drives me nuts how he can't hold any runners on so once a hitter gets to first he is pretty much guaranteed to get in scoring position. Where is Jason Grilli when you need him?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
OF Jose Canseco still holds the record for most embarassing home run (noggin-bounce) , but this one was good too.Miggy just Bourned the Tribe!
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Cleveland - Justin Verlander really wanted to go back to the mound after the first rain delay on Wednesday night
As in really, really wanted to.
"He hugged me for 10 minutes," manager Jim Leyland said about the decision to break his own rule of no pitcher staying in the game after a delay of more than an hour.
This delay was an hour and two minutes.
And Leyland said he usually breaks the rule "for no one."
"I'm an hour guy and I usually don't bend that for anybody," he said. "But I stretched it and took a shot.
This was worthy of being an exception.
For one thing, Verlander — while not putting together an attractive pitching line (5 innings pitched, 10 hits , 5 earned runs) — felt he made progress toward getting back to being himself on the mound.
He admitted he was "up and down" against the Indians in what turned out to be an 11-7 victory for the Tigers, but when the rain came the first time, the game was only two outs short of becoming official.
The Tigers led at the time 9-5.
From The Detroit News
> btw, as bad as JV was he still had a 9K to 1 walk ratio last night
As in really, really wanted to.
"He hugged me for 10 minutes," manager Jim Leyland said about the decision to break his own rule of no pitcher staying in the game after a delay of more than an hour.
This delay was an hour and two minutes.
And Leyland said he usually breaks the rule "for no one."
"I'm an hour guy and I usually don't bend that for anybody," he said. "But I stretched it and took a shot.
This was worthy of being an exception.
For one thing, Verlander — while not putting together an attractive pitching line (5 innings pitched, 10 hits , 5 earned runs) — felt he made progress toward getting back to being himself on the mound.
He admitted he was "up and down" against the Indians in what turned out to be an 11-7 victory for the Tigers, but when the rain came the first time, the game was only two outs short of becoming official.
The Tigers led at the time 9-5.
From The Detroit News
> btw, as bad as JV was he still had a 9K to 1 walk ratio last night
Gopher State
Footballguy
we see if the tigers can keep the Twins streak (losing) alive. As a Twins fan I see a ugly weekend ahead for the Twins and lots of HR's for the tigers
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Pick your poison (again) ...Miggy - Prince. Nice comeback and solid bullpen work!
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Rick Porcello powers them to victory again!
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
D in the D
Footballguy
He left a game about a month ago with a blister. I wonder if he (or more importantly his curveball) is still feeling the effects of that. Just a guess.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Hard to decide which is more enjoyable - Cabrera and the solid bats up and down the order ..or the great starting pitching. What another great game for Sanchez!!!!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Dang! Of course, when opposing pitchers have more flexibility, they often walk Miggy ...and the last six times he walked, Fielder has followed with a hit.
Another good win! Max being Max, Garcia coming through as a PH, Smyly finishing up strong. Nice of Boston to rally strong in the 9th and get a win over Cleveland.
teamramrod
Footballguy
Think about this.
After watching Sanchez and Max this past two weeks, is it possible that we have the luxury of discussion our third best pitcher here?
We are blessed.
BLESS YOU BOYS
peace
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Seven .300 hitters joining Prince & VMart in the lineup today.
teamramrod
Footballguy
sorry.
yellow hammer is in effect
lets go JV
peace
yellow hammer is in effect
lets go JV
peace
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Indians' closer Perez, who had a shoulder strain during spring training, is on the DL after having some recent shoulder issues - not a good development for the Tribe.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
For his amazing 2nd-base pick-off move?
Then Inge strikes out looking. That became too close, but at least JV got his 6th win. Cabrera with an ugly 0-4 ...but a key walk that helps them win the game. Peralta -
tri-man 47
Footballguy
5 @ 15 could be tough unless Porcello improves and gets some luck.
The top four could certainly end up with something special.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
How and or why is Brandon Inge still playing MLB? Just looked at his career stats and it is hard to believe that Oakland picked him up last year with their saber-metric philosophy..and why Pitt picked him up this year. I could understand at 36 if Inge was a contact hitter who worked the count and was always on base..but he was so Inge today. Pitt has to have some prospects that are better than Inge.
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Inge was picked up strictly for depth. He's a bench player who can provide occasional relief to Pedro. The Pirates really don't have many hitting prospects who are major league ready. Inge sucks but he has some utility given the inconsistency of Pedro.
Porcello has been very solid in his last couple outings after being about on the brink of losing his job. It is a very long shot for him to get to 15 at this point though. The other 4 are ahead of the pace at this point in the season (30 percent through and all have five or more wins). I doubt if a team has ever had 5 15-game winners, so it was an extremely bold suggestion that it could happen. I am not even sure how many times if ever a team has had 4 15-game winners.
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