***OFFICIALISH*** Seahawks vs Packers Divisional Round Game Thread (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

Packers had a great season, they were 7-1 at home, and have some interesting match-up advantages.

Seahawks had a good season, won their wildcard game despite a bad game from their best player, but haven't won a road playoff game since beating Miami in 1983. This will however be their 7th playoff game in the past three years and their defense is playing extremely well so they won't be nervous and they have a little bit of swagger coming in.

Teams played a great game back in 2004 in Green Bay that went to OT, the Hasselbeck "we're gonna win this game" incident that I'm sure will be beat to death this week.

Holmgren coming back to GB is another subplot here, as is Hasselbeck coming back, and Koren Robinson the former Seahawks first round pick playing his former team.

Looks like the Packers are early 8 or 9 point favorites. Seattle can't play from behind in this game or they are toast.

 

[Challenge Everything]

As a Packers fan I am thrilled about the year they have had so far. Of the possible opponents the Packers could have faced the one I did not want was Seattle in this game. Maybe I am just over psyching myself out about this and all but I am worried about this game.

 

[stevegamer]

Nice to see a thread out here this early - I'm worried about this game.

If Hasselbeck doesn't shape up, we're toast, as the running game isn't good enough, and I don't want to say "Hasselpick is back" again this week.

I'm guessing you were calling him the 'Hawks best player - which he isn't - but he's the most important player on offense. I'd take Jones over him, and a few defenders at minimum - Tatupu, Peteron, Trufant, maybe Kerney.

The D looked great against Washington for most of the game, and I'm happy we've got a championship-quality D now.

 

[BoltBacker]

What's your take on the WR health? Branch coming back? Hackett still healthy? He looked good on SAT but he hasn't been able to stay healthy long this season.

I think that's a big key. They won't get much vs Harris/Woodson so the #3/#4 WR's are really going to have to play well. If Branch is out then suddenly those #3/#4 WR's don't look nearly as good.

Hass had a well below average game vs WAS after a great year. It'll be interesting to see if he can bounce back vs a tough GB defense in that weather.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Early weather forecast has it at 26 degrees with a 20% chance of snow showers. This won't be a big issue for the Seahawks if that is the case. I think real cold would be a disadvantage and "Real cold" on the Doctor Detroit thermometer is 9 degrees.

It would be nice to see it stay above freezing though.

As far as the Hawks WRs Burleson has really been this year and he made the biggest play in the Skins game IMO. Hackett should be fine and even if he's not 100 percent he should be a little better off than last week where he had a couple of nice catches. I wouldn't count on Branch playing but he was a GTD last week so maybe he can make some progress this week to get back on the field. Seahawks mixed the run in vs the Skins in the first half last week and will have to do the same this week.

Seahawks D is playing extremely well right now and the RCB issues and nickel with Jennings and Babinuex have played well but will have their work cut out for them this week with Jennings or Driver. I'd rather see Trufant on Jennings as much as possible but he's gonna stay on the left side and play the match-up there. Tapp, Hill, and Mebane have been great against the run and Hill really played in another gear last week. Packers however allowed the third least sacks in the NFL this season and the Seahawks were 4th in Sacks. The GB o-line vs the Seahawks front seven is probably the one key match-up in this game IMO. For Seattle to win, they will have to win that battle which won't be easy.

 

[trader jake]

The Seahawks don't match up real well. Their secondary is suspect and their run game isn't what it was in the past. To beat a rested Packers team in Lambeau Holmgren's Hawks will need Brett Favre to have a "rocketball game" or they're going to get beat by double digits.

 

[Incogneto]

The Seahawks don't match up real well. Their secondary is suspect and their run game isn't what it was in the past. To beat a rested Packers team in Lambeau Holmgren's Hawks will need Brett Favre to have a "rocketball game" or they're going to get beat by double digits.

Didn't we hear this #### all last week too? We have a Pro-bowler in the Secondary, some pretty good depth at CB (Trufant, Jennings, Wilson, and Hobbs) , and the Safties are just fine (Grant/Russell Starting, Babs backing up).I do worry about this game, though. Everything has to click for the Seahawks to win.

 

[Mr.Pack]

As a Packers fan I am thrilled about the year they have had so far. Of the possible opponents the Packers could have faced the one I did not want was Seattle in this game. Maybe I am just over psyching myself out about this and all but I am worried about this game.

My thoughts exactly.I hope we can squeak out a win. My stomach has been in knots since Seattle won on Saturday.

 

[jurrassic]

This is going to be a good game. The teams are pretty similar in philosphy and style of play. Both teams have a strength in the passing game and are deep at wr. The Packers do have a better running game than the Seahawks. The Hawks are top 5 in both sacks and turnovers, but they are weak against the run which is where the Packers should have an advantage. The Hawks should look to go 3 and 4 wide and use Burleson to work on Williams, Bush, or Blackmon.

Holmgren and Hasselbeck have an advantage in having played in Green Bay and not being intimidated coming in for the playoffs. The Hawks are a much more veteran unit and have playoff experience, but Favre is really the only play Holmgren coached that is still on this team. Being underlooked is that Thompson had a hand in drafting alot of Seattle's players and should know them pretty well.

I think this game will be close but I will take the Packers 31-24.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I do worry about this game, though. Everything has to click for the Seahawks to win.

Exactly but I do think it is possible. I've watched Green Bay a few times this year and wasn't all that impressed but I can say the same thing about the Seahawks. I think these are the two most underrated defenses in the NFL.

 

[uwgb96]

This is going to be a good game. The teams are pretty similar in philosphy and style of play. Both teams have a strength in the passing game and are deep at wr. The Packers do have a better running game than the Seahawks. The Hawks are top 5 in both sacks and turnovers, but they are weak against the run which is where the Packers should have an advantage. The Hawks should look to go 3 and 4 wide and use Burleson to work on Williams, Bush, or Blackmon.

Holmgren and Hasselbeck have an advantage in having played in Green Bay and not being intimidated coming in for the playoffs. The Hawks are a much more veteran unit and have playoff experience, but Favre is really the only play Holmgren coached that is still on this team. Being underlooked is that Thompson had a hand in drafting alot of Seattle's players and should know them pretty well.

I think this game will be close but I will take the Packers 31-24.

This post pretty much is on par with my thoughts on the game. The backend of the Packers secondary is pretty suspect and can be exploited. I think the cold weather is somewhat of an advantage to the Packers with a superior running game (who would've thought we'd be saying THAT at the beginning of the year???), but can also hurt their passing attack.27 Packers

20 Seahawks

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I'm very worried about this game from the Packers perspective. The OL is in turmoil right now, I think much moreso than is being commonly reported. I really hate to be relying on guys like Moll and Colledge to block the Seahawks front line and pick up their blitzes. Holmgren will exploit this weakness and bring it hard in an attempt to throw Favre into one of his infamous disaster games.

Home field advantage is basically meaningless anymore at Lambeau. Weather will not be a factor. If I were betting, I would definitely take the 8 points.

Got my tickets in hand and looking forward to an exciting return of playoff football to Lambeau Field.

 

[cacksman]

Nice to see a thread out here this early - I'm worried about this game. If Hasselbeck doesn't shape up, we're toast, as the running game isn't good enough, and I don't want to say "Hasselpick is back" again this week. I'm guessing you were calling him the 'Hawks best player - which he isn't - but he's the most important player on offense. I'd take Jones over him, and a few defenders at minimum - Tatupu, Peteron, Trufant, maybe Kerney.The D looked great against Washington for most of the game, and I'm happy we've got a championship-quality D now.

Hasselbeck is definitely Seattle's best player. There is no other player that would hurt the team more were he to get injured. You could MAYBE make a case for Jones but he has lost a step. The defense is very good but a loss of one player wouldnt be as damaging to the team as an injury to Hass.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Nice to see a thread out here this early - I'm worried about this game. If Hasselbeck doesn't shape up, we're toast, as the running game isn't good enough, and I don't want to say "Hasselpick is back" again this week. I'm guessing you were calling him the 'Hawks best player - which he isn't - but he's the most important player on offense. I'd take Jones over him, and a few defenders at minimum - Tatupu, Peteron, Trufant, maybe Kerney.The D looked great against Washington for most of the game, and I'm happy we've got a championship-quality D now.

Hasselbeck is definitely Seattle's best player. There is no other player that would hurt the team more were he to get injured. You could MAYBE make a case for Jones but he has lost a step. The defense is very good but a loss of one player wouldnt be as damaging to the team as an injury to Hass.

And that is what I mean by "most important player." Hass goes down and this team is done. Jones goes down they are in big trouble. One of the defenders goes down, especially Trufant...trouble. Hey Cletius>What's up with GB's O-line? This is the first I've heard of anything being wrong.

 

[cacksman]

The Hawks are top 5 in both sacks and turnovers, but they are weak against the run which is where the Packers should have an advantage.

This was stated all last week and I was saying how Seattle's run defense is actually very good when they have to be. They proved that last week. I don't think the weather will be an advantage for either team. That was one of the arguments for Redskins fans last week and look how that worked out.

 

[BLOX]

Nice to see a thread out here this early - I'm worried about this game.

If Hasselbeck doesn't shape up, we're toast, as the running game isn't good enough, and I don't want to say "Hasselpick is back" again this week.

I'm guessing you were calling him the 'Hawks best player - which he isn't - but he's the most important player on offense. I'd take Jones over him, and a few defenders at minimum - Tatupu, Peteron, Trufant, maybe Kerney.

The D looked great against Washington for most of the game, and I'm happy we've got a championship-quality D now.

Hasselbeck is definitely Seattle's best player. There is no other player that would hurt the team more were he to get injured. You could MAYBE make a case for Jones but he has lost a step. The defense is very good but a loss of one player wouldnt be as damaging to the team as an injury to Hass.

And that is what I mean by "most important player." Hass goes down and this team is done. Jones goes down they are in big trouble. One of the defenders goes down, especially Trufant...trouble.

Hey Cletius>What's up with GB's O-line? This is the first I've heard of anything being wrong.

He's talking about the reports that the GB O-line is not settled due to injuries and some lackluster, then good, then lackluster performances. The guard positions are not set basically and there are lingering injuries that are causing a lot of shuffling in the unit. The lack of sacks given up seems more a credit to Favre than the O-line. Those guys are young and improving, but they need to work throught this:http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=702459

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=703376

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=704123

I don't know how to link those stories, sorry. However, if you go to www.jsonline.com and go to the Packers page they are all there plus more.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Nice to see a thread out here this early - I'm worried about this game.

If Hasselbeck doesn't shape up, we're toast, as the running game isn't good enough, and I don't want to say "Hasselpick is back" again this week.

I'm guessing you were calling him the 'Hawks best player - which he isn't - but he's the most important player on offense. I'd take Jones over him, and a few defenders at minimum - Tatupu, Peteron, Trufant, maybe Kerney.

The D looked great against Washington for most of the game, and I'm happy we've got a championship-quality D now.

Hasselbeck is definitely Seattle's best player. There is no other player that would hurt the team more were he to get injured. You could MAYBE make a case for Jones but he has lost a step. The defense is very good but a loss of one player wouldnt be as damaging to the team as an injury to Hass.

And that is what I mean by "most important player." Hass goes down and this team is done. Jones goes down they are in big trouble. One of the defenders goes down, especially Trufant...trouble.

Hey Cletius>What's up with GB's O-line? This is the first I've heard of anything being wrong.

He's talking about the reports that the GB O-line is not settled due to injuries and some lackluster, then good, then lackluster performances. The guard positions are not set basically and there are lingering injuries that are causing a lot of shuffling in the unit. The lack of sacks given up seems more a credit to Favre than the O-line. Those guys are young and improving, but they need to work throught this:http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=702459

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=703376

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=704123

I don't know how to link those stories, sorry. However, if you go to www.jsonline.com and go to the Packers page they are all there plus more.

I think the status of the Packer guards is an issue for this game. Colledge will definely be playing guard this Saturday, which is a big concern in itself for those that follow this OL, but there's still a question of who will play opposite him. Junius Coston was placed on IR last week. Jason Spitz has not practiced and is reportedly testing his quad today to see whether he will be available on Saturday. If Spitz can't play, it will be Tony Moll at RG and Colledge at LG. However, Moll is a huge question mark - played mostly TE in college and has played tackle and guard for the Packers this season when not out with injuries (see Jsonline article from this weekend). If the coaches don't think he is ready to start a big game and Spitz can't go, Colledge will likely move over to RG and rookie Alan Barbre will get the first start of his career at LG.That's a recipe for disaster in my opinion, but things certainly could be worse. In general, the team is pretty healthy going into the playoffs this season so I'm certainly not complaining or making excuses.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Hey Cletius>What's up with GB's O-line? This is the first I've heard of anything being wrong.

He's talking about the reports that the GB O-line is not settled due to injuries and some lackluster, then good, then lackluster performances. The guard positions are not set basically and there are lingering injuries that are causing a lot of shuffling in the unit. The lack of sacks given up seems more a credit to Favre than the O-line. Those guys are young and improving, but they need to work throught this:http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=702459

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=703376

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=704123

I don't know how to link those stories, sorry. However, if you go to www.jsonline.com and go to the Packers page they are all there plus more.

I think the status of the Packer guards is an issue for this game. Colledge will definely be playing guard this Saturday, which is a big concern in itself for those that follow this OL, but there's still a question of who will play opposite him. Junius Coston was placed on IR last week. Jason Spitz has not practiced and is reportedly testing his quad today to see whether he will be available on Saturday. If Spitz can't play, it will be Tony Moll at RG and Colledge at LG. However, Moll is a huge question mark - played mostly TE in college and has played tackle and guard for the Packers this season when not out with injuries (see Jsonline article from this weekend). If the coaches don't think he is ready to start a big game and Spitz can't go, Colledge will likely move over to RG and rookie Alan Barbre will get the first start of his career at LG.That's a recipe for disaster in my opinion, but things certainly could be worse. In general, the team is pretty healthy going into the playoffs this season so I'm certainly not complaining or making excuses.

Thanks for the info. This is the kind of stuff that keeps me coming back to the Shark Pool.

 

[Big Dumb Ape]

GB having OL issues would be huge. If Favre has time, I think the 'hawks chances of winning this game are very slim. I don't see the offense putting up more than 20ish on GB's defense, but if we can hurry Favre, we're in good shape. I don't see either team being able to run a whole lot. If I had to guess, I'd guess that the QB with the fewest picks is on the winning team. Right now, sadly, I'd pick GB to win, something like 20-17. Were I a betting man, I'd take the 'hawks and 9 all day though. I see a close, hard fought game.

 

[jurrassic]

GB having OL issues would be huge. If Favre has time, I think the 'hawks chances of winning this game are very slim. I don't see the offense putting up more than 20ish on GB's defense, but if we can hurry Favre, we're in good shape. I don't see either team being able to run a whole lot. If I had to guess, I'd guess that the QB with the fewest picks is on the winning team. Right now, sadly, I'd pick GB to win, something like 20-17. Were I a betting man, I'd take the 'hawks and 9 all day though. I see a close, hard fought game.

GB has been having o-line "issues" all season. Colledge and Coston have split time in some games but Coston has been injured pretty much all season. If Spitz can't go that would be a problem but I think he will start and if that is the case the Packers will pretty much have their starting o-line intact. I think the Packers are going to use alot of 3 step drops and continue to use the short passing game to counteract the Seattle pass rush. Favre has only been sacked 15 times this year, and thrown 15 picks that is less than one a game on both counts. Seattle has been very good at getting pressure this year ranking 4th in the NFL in sacks with 45, but 21 of those came in 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In addition to that, they ranked 4th in the NFL in ints, 12 of those came in the same 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In the games in which they actually played teams with good offenses (Eagles, Browns, Saints, Steelers, Bengals), they collected a total of 6 sacks and 7 picks.The biggest factor in this game is going to be the Packers pass defense. If Collins, Bigby, and their nickel back of the week play well the Packers should win this game.

 

[mad sweeney]

GB having OL issues would be huge. If Favre has time, I think the 'hawks chances of winning this game are very slim. I don't see the offense putting up more than 20ish on GB's defense, but if we can hurry Favre, we're in good shape. I don't see either team being able to run a whole lot. If I had to guess, I'd guess that the QB with the fewest picks is on the winning team. Right now, sadly, I'd pick GB to win, something like 20-17. Were I a betting man, I'd take the 'hawks and 9 all day though. I see a close, hard fought game.

GB has been having o-line "issues" all season. Colledge and Coston have split time in some games but Coston has been injured pretty much all season. If Spitz can't go that would be a problem but I think he will start and if that is the case the Packers will pretty much have their starting o-line intact. I think the Packers are going to use alot of 3 step drops and continue to use the short passing game to counteract the Seattle pass rush. Favre has only been sacked 15 times this year, and thrown 15 picks that is less than one a game on both counts. Seattle has been very good at getting pressure this year ranking 4th in the NFL in sacks with 45, but 21 of those came in 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In addition to that, they ranked 4th in the NFL in ints, 12 of those came in the same 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In the games in which they actually played teams with good offenses (Eagles, Browns, Saints, Steelers, Bengals), they collected a total of 6 sacks and 7 picks.The biggest factor in this game is going to be the Packers pass defense. If Collins, Bigby, and their nickel back of the week play well the Packers should win this game.

They did just get 4 sacks and 2 picks against a good Washington team whose QB hadn't thrown a pick in 4 games (actually in ten years). They also knocked him down a LOT even if they didn't get the sack. The althleticism of the LBs will be a great counter to the 3 step quick drops as Peterson and Tatupu are well able to disguise where they are going. And Tatupu is uncanny in his ability to read plays pre-snap. It'll be great watching the crafty vet try to outwit the young superstar. This will be a very good game and if Seattle has to lose, I'd rather it be to Favre and the Packers than to anyone else. But I'm gonna stick with that not happening.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Seattle has been very good at getting pressure this year ranking 4th in the NFL in sacks with 45, but 21 of those came in 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In addition to that, they ranked 4th in the NFL in ints, 12 of those came in the same 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In the games in which they actually played teams with good offenses (Eagles, Browns, Saints, Steelers, Bengals), they collected a total of 6 sacks and 7 picks.

Arizona doesn't have a good offense? Also keep in mind when Seattle collected a lot of sacks when they were ahead which is normal. Teams aren't going to collect a lot of sacks when they are 10 points down and the other team is running a lot like in the Pittsburgh game. The Saints, Bengals, and Browns allowed the least, the second least, and 4th least sacks all season to all teams.

 

[jurrassic]

Seattle has been very good at getting pressure this year ranking 4th in the NFL in sacks with 45, but 21 of those came in 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In addition to that, they ranked 4th in the NFL in ints, 12 of those came in the same 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In the games in which they actually played teams with good offenses (Eagles, Browns, Saints, Steelers, Bengals), they collected a total of 6 sacks and 7 picks.

Arizona doesn't have a good offense? Also keep in mind when Seattle collected a lot of sacks when they were ahead which is normal. Teams aren't going to collect a lot of sacks when they are 10 points down and the other team is running a lot like in the Pittsburgh game. The Saints, Bengals, and Browns allowed the least, the second least, and 4th least sacks all season to all teams.

Pretty much supports the point I am trying to make. Seattle's pressure is dependent on two things, 1) having a lead, 2) playing against teams with bad offensesAZ ranked 12th in offense but Warner holds the ball along time. That is a fact.

 

[BroadwayG]

GO PACK!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Seattle has been very good at getting pressure this year ranking 4th in the NFL in sacks with 45, but 21 of those came in 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In addition to that, they ranked 4th in the NFL in ints, 12 of those came in the same 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In the games in which they actually played teams with good offenses (Eagles, Browns, Saints, Steelers, Bengals), they collected a total of 6 sacks and 7 picks.

Arizona doesn't have a good offense? Also keep in mind when Seattle collected a lot of sacks when they were ahead which is normal. Teams aren't going to collect a lot of sacks when they are 10 points down and the other team is running a lot like in the Pittsburgh game. The Saints, Bengals, and Browns allowed the least, the second least, and 4th least sacks all season to all teams.

Pretty much supports the point I am trying to make. Seattle's pressure is dependent on two things, 1) having a lead, 2) playing against teams with bad offensesAZ ranked 12th in offense but Warner holds the ball along time. That is a fact.

I actually made the point about them having the lead and once again, the Saints, Bengals, and Browns were three of the four best teams in not allowing sacks in 2007. Here's another fact: Arizona allowed the 8th least sacks this year, no matter how long Warner holds the ball.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Rotoworld

Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren said Monday that he expects Deion Branch (calf) to play in the Divisional Round.Holmgren indicated that Branch could have played against Washington, but wouldn't have been able to go the whole game or been at full speed. Branch will practice on a limited basis before Saturday's matchup at Green Bay. Jan. 7 - 7:17 pm et

 

[bearsharks]

GO HAWKS!!!

 

[sho nuff]

GB having OL issues would be huge. If Favre has time, I think the 'hawks chances of winning this game are very slim. I don't see the offense putting up more than 20ish on GB's defense, but if we can hurry Favre, we're in good shape. I don't see either team being able to run a whole lot. If I had to guess, I'd guess that the QB with the fewest picks is on the winning team. Right now, sadly, I'd pick GB to win, something like 20-17. Were I a betting man, I'd take the 'hawks and 9 all day though. I see a close, hard fought game.

GB has been having o-line "issues" all season. Colledge and Coston have split time in some games but Coston has been injured pretty much all season. If Spitz can't go that would be a problem but I think he will start and if that is the case the Packers will pretty much have their starting o-line intact. I think the Packers are going to use alot of 3 step drops and continue to use the short passing game to counteract the Seattle pass rush. Favre has only been sacked 15 times this year, and thrown 15 picks that is less than one a game on both counts. Seattle has been very good at getting pressure this year ranking 4th in the NFL in sacks with 45, but 21 of those came in 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In addition to that, they ranked 4th in the NFL in ints, 12 of those came in the same 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In the games in which they actually played teams with good offenses (Eagles, Browns, Saints, Steelers, Bengals), they collected a total of 6 sacks and 7 picks.The biggest factor in this game is going to be the Packers pass defense. If Collins, Bigby, and their nickel back of the week play well the Packers should win this game.

They did just get 4 sacks and 2 picks against a good Washington team whose QB hadn't thrown a pick in 4 games (actually in ten years). They also knocked him down a LOT even if they didn't get the sack. The althleticism of the LBs will be a great counter to the 3 step quick drops as Peterson and Tatupu are well able to disguise where they are going. And Tatupu is uncanny in his ability to read plays pre-snap. It'll be great watching the crafty vet try to outwit the young superstar. This will be a very good game and if Seattle has to lose, I'd rather it be to Favre and the Packers than to anyone else. But I'm gonna stick with that not happening.

That they did.But there is a difference between Favre in a 3 step drop with Tauscher on Kerney.

And Collins, a 5 or 7 step drop with a rookie(who was a bakcup) on Kerney.

 

[Power Monster]

Whoever can establish the run in this game will win. Cheering for number 4 to take a beat down

 

[Kuz]

Whoever can establish the run in this game will win. Cheering for number 4 to take a beat down

If that's the case then Seattle has no chance.. they have no such thing as a running game..

 

[scott72]

As a Packers fan I am thrilled about the year they have had so far. Of the possible opponents the Packers could have faced the one I did not want was Seattle in this game. Maybe I am just over psyching myself out about this and all but I am worried about this game.

The Hawks are the last team I wanted too. Both teams are SO familiar with each other. I'm shocked we're favored by so much as I think it could come down to Josh Brown and Mason Crosby.

 

[scott72]

GB having OL issues would be huge. If Favre has time, I think the 'hawks chances of winning this game are very slim. I don't see the offense putting up more than 20ish on GB's defense, but if we can hurry Favre, we're in good shape. I don't see either team being able to run a whole lot. If I had to guess, I'd guess that the QB with the fewest picks is on the winning team. Right now, sadly, I'd pick GB to win, something like 20-17. Were I a betting man, I'd take the 'hawks and 9 all day though. I see a close, hard fought game.

GB has been having o-line "issues" all season. Colledge and Coston have split time in some games but Coston has been injured pretty much all season. If Spitz can't go that would be a problem but I think he will start and if that is the case the Packers will pretty much have their starting o-line intact. I think the Packers are going to use alot of 3 step drops and continue to use the short passing game to counteract the Seattle pass rush. Favre has only been sacked 15 times this year, and thrown 15 picks that is less than one a game on both counts. Seattle has been very good at getting pressure this year ranking 4th in the NFL in sacks with 45, but 21 of those came in 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In addition to that, they ranked 4th in the NFL in ints, 12 of those came in the same 5 games vs. the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers. In the games in which they actually played teams with good offenses (Eagles, Browns, Saints, Steelers, Bengals), they collected a total of 6 sacks and 7 picks.The biggest factor in this game is going to be the Packers pass defense. If Collins, Bigby, and their nickel back of the week play well the Packers should win this game.

They did just get 4 sacks and 2 picks against a good Washington team whose QB hadn't thrown a pick in 4 games (actually in ten years). They also knocked him down a LOT even if they didn't get the sack. The althleticism of the LBs will be a great counter to the 3 step quick drops as Peterson and Tatupu are well able to disguise where they are going. And Tatupu is uncanny in his ability to read plays pre-snap. It'll be great watching the crafty vet try to outwit the young superstar. This will be a very good game and if Seattle has to lose, I'd rather it be to Favre and the Packers than to anyone else. But I'm gonna stick with that not happening.

That they did.But there is a difference between Favre in a 3 step drop with Tauscher on Kerney.

And Collins, a 5 or 7 step drop with a rookie(who was a bakcup) on Kerney.

Kerney is a beast and we're going to need two guys on him all the time me thinks. I'm also a bit worried about the guards and how that's going to play out. Hopefully Spitz can go or it could get real interesting.

 

[sho nuff]

That they did.But there is a difference between Favre in a 3 step drop with Tauscher on Kerney.And Collins, a 5 or 7 step drop with a rookie(who was a bakcup) on Kerney.

Kerney is a beast and we're going to need two guys on him all the time me thinks. I'm also a bit worried about the guards and how that's going to play out. Hopefully Spitz can go or it could get real interesting.

I agree he is a beast...but I don't think he will find it as easy of a time against Tauscher and quicker drops and releases by the QB. and I am much more worried about the guards.

 

[jurrassic]

As a Packers fan I am thrilled about the year they have had so far. Of the possible opponents the Packers could have faced the one I did not want was Seattle in this game. Maybe I am just over psyching myself out about this and all but I am worried about this game.

The Hawks are the last team I wanted too. Both teams are SO familiar with each other. I'm shocked we're favored by so much as I think it could come down to Josh Brown and Mason Crosby.

How are the Hawks familiar with the Packers? Almost the entire team has turned over since the last time they played. There are only 2 players from the Super Bowl team on the roster. They also have a new head coach and new coordinators. If anything, I think the Packers are more familiar with the Seahawks based on Ted Thompson having worked in their personnel department. Yes, Holmgren knows Favre but he hasn't coached him since the '97 season. That is a decade ago. McCarthy is also familar with Hasselbeck from being his qb coach but once again how long ago was that. I think the only real advantages are TT's knowledge of some of the players, and Seattle's lack of intimidation for coming into Lambeau having played there 4 years ago in the playoffs and Holmgren and Hasselbeck formerly being with the team.

 

[JFT Ben]

That they did.But there is a difference between Favre in a 3 step drop with Tauscher on Kerney.And Collins, a 5 or 7 step drop with a rookie(who was a bakcup) on Kerney.

Kerney is a beast and we're going to need two guys on him all the time me thinks. I'm also a bit worried about the guards and how that's going to play out. Hopefully Spitz can go or it could get real interesting.

I agree he is a beast...but I don't think he will find it as easy of a time against Tauscher and quicker drops and releases by the QB. and I am much more worried about the guards.

I heard Tauscher's regular radio show yesterday, and he's said he and Kerney have locked horns 5 or 6 times over the years. He acknowledged it would be a battle, but thought he should hold his own. I'm guessing Tauscher should be fine on Kerney.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

As a Packers fan I am thrilled about the year they have had so far. Of the possible opponents the Packers could have faced the one I did not want was Seattle in this game. Maybe I am just over psyching myself out about this and all but I am worried about this game.

The Hawks are the last team I wanted too. Both teams are SO familiar with each other. I'm shocked we're favored by so much as I think it could come down to Josh Brown and Mason Crosby.

How are the Hawks familiar with the Packers? Almost the entire team has turned over since the last time they played. There are only 2 players from the Super Bowl team on the roster. They also have a new head coach and new coordinators. If anything, I think the Packers are more familiar with the Seahawks based on Ted Thompson having worked in their personnel department. Yes, Holmgren knows Favre but he hasn't coached him since the '97 season. That is a decade ago. McCarthy is also familar with Hasselbeck from being his qb coach but once again how long ago was that. I think the only real advantages are TT's knowledge of some of the players, and Seattle's lack of intimidation for coming into Lambeau having played there 4 years ago in the playoffs and Holmgren and Hasselbeck formerly being with the team.

They played each other last season (Monday night game in Seattle) and again this year in the preseason. There are multiple connections between these teams and I think a great deal of familiarity, not that I necessarily consider that an advantage for either team.

 

[Power Monster]

Whoever can establish the run in this game will win. Cheering for number 4 to take a beat down

If that's the case then Seattle has no chance.. they have no such thing as a running game..

I just do not think that getting into a shoot out with number 4 is a wise idea. However- the last time we were here with these two teams it was a great game that landed into OT. I think that Seahawks showed a great running punch last year when they came into Chicago but that is lacking and not part of their game plan as we know. This game will come down to the front DL of Seattle putting pressure on Favre early the way the Cowboys did this year. Rattle him early and he may be induced into trying to make too much happen. This is what seperates a young number 4 from the older vet number 4. Brett will still try to do this but needs to show composure. Run to set up the pass and if the Pack can run early it will be over for the Seahawks.

 

[scott72]

As a Packers fan I am thrilled about the year they have had so far. Of the possible opponents the Packers could have faced the one I did not want was Seattle in this game. Maybe I am just over psyching myself out about this and all but I am worried about this game.

The Hawks are the last team I wanted too. Both teams are SO familiar with each other. I'm shocked we're favored by so much as I think it could come down to Josh Brown and Mason Crosby.

How are the Hawks familiar with the Packers? Almost the entire team has turned over since the last time they played. There are only 2 players from the Super Bowl team on the roster. They also have a new head coach and new coordinators. If anything, I think the Packers are more familiar with the Seahawks based on Ted Thompson having worked in their personnel department. Yes, Holmgren knows Favre but he hasn't coached him since the '97 season. That is a decade ago. McCarthy is also familar with Hasselbeck from being his qb coach but once again how long ago was that. I think the only real advantages are TT's knowledge of some of the players, and Seattle's lack of intimidation for coming into Lambeau having played there 4 years ago in the playoffs and Holmgren and Hasselbeck formerly being with the team.

What I'm trying to say is being they run almost an identical offense I think it makes it easier to defend. The personnel is very similiar and although the players are different the scheme is the same. Which coach will out think the other is the question.

 

[jurrassic]

As a Packers fan I am thrilled about the year they have had so far. Of the possible opponents the Packers could have faced the one I did not want was Seattle in this game. Maybe I am just over psyching myself out about this and all but I am worried about this game.

The Hawks are the last team I wanted too. Both teams are SO familiar with each other. I'm shocked we're favored by so much as I think it could come down to Josh Brown and Mason Crosby.

How are the Hawks familiar with the Packers? Almost the entire team has turned over since the last time they played. There are only 2 players from the Super Bowl team on the roster. They also have a new head coach and new coordinators. If anything, I think the Packers are more familiar with the Seahawks based on Ted Thompson having worked in their personnel department. Yes, Holmgren knows Favre but he hasn't coached him since the '97 season. That is a decade ago. McCarthy is also familar with Hasselbeck from being his qb coach but once again how long ago was that. I think the only real advantages are TT's knowledge of some of the players, and Seattle's lack of intimidation for coming into Lambeau having played there 4 years ago in the playoffs and Holmgren and Hasselbeck formerly being with the team.

They played each other last season (Monday night game in Seattle) and again this year in the preseason. There are multiple connections between these teams and I think a great deal of familiarity, not that I necessarily consider that an advantage for either team.

Pre-season does not count. I forgot about the game last year but that game was played in the snow and Green Bay did not have Grant, Barnett, Bigby, James Jones, Korey Hall, Koren Robinson, or Donald Lee.I think this "they know each other well" angle is getting overblown. The Giants and Cowboys know each other well. These teams have a few connections like most teams in the NFL. Players change, players improve, philosphies change. Favre has played in 230 games in his career, there is plenty of film on the guy. Yes, Holmgren helped turn him into the player he is, but hasn't coached him in 10 years. I don't think he is going to throw something at Favre that he hasn't seen before. This game comes down to Green Bay's ability to block the Seattle pressure, both teams secondaries, and execution. I think the connection makes for a good story but doesn't really have any impact on the game.

 

[jurrassic]

As a Packers fan I am thrilled about the year they have had so far. Of the possible opponents the Packers could have faced the one I did not want was Seattle in this game. Maybe I am just over psyching myself out about this and all but I am worried about this game.

The Hawks are the last team I wanted too. Both teams are SO familiar with each other. I'm shocked we're favored by so much as I think it could come down to Josh Brown and Mason Crosby.

How are the Hawks familiar with the Packers? Almost the entire team has turned over since the last time they played. There are only 2 players from the Super Bowl team on the roster. They also have a new head coach and new coordinators. If anything, I think the Packers are more familiar with the Seahawks based on Ted Thompson having worked in their personnel department. Yes, Holmgren knows Favre but he hasn't coached him since the '97 season. That is a decade ago. McCarthy is also familar with Hasselbeck from being his qb coach but once again how long ago was that. I think the only real advantages are TT's knowledge of some of the players, and Seattle's lack of intimidation for coming into Lambeau having played there 4 years ago in the playoffs and Holmgren and Hasselbeck formerly being with the team.

What I'm trying to say is being they run almost an identical offense I think it makes it easier to defend. The personnel is very similiar and although the players are different the scheme is the same. Which coach will out think the other is the question.

Half the teams in the league run the same scheme. I actually thinks McCarthy runs a much more innovative version of the west coast offense than Holmgren.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Spitz practices, Blackmon doesn't

Practice notes: Spitz practices

Guard Jason Spitz was back on the practice field and taking most or all of his normal work this morning inside The Don Hutson Center.

Spitz, who sustained a strained quadriceps in the regular-season finale Dec. 30 against Detroit, didn't practice last week and was scheduled to test his injury Monday. Clearly, he passed the test. UPDATE: "He's doing better," coach Mike McCarthy said after practice. "We have an injury report that we'll file (Wednesday), but I think we'll be very healthy for the game, including Jason."

Fullback John Kuhn (bruise) and linebacker Tracy White also returned to action, but cornerback Will Blackmon (foot) did not. Like Spitz, Blackman was to test the injury -- described by coach Mike McCarthy last week as an "irritation" of an old injury -- on Monday. But Blackmon only stood and watched as the defense went through the portions of practice open to reporters. It wasn't immediately clear whether he failed the test or was sitting out as a precaution. UPDATE: The team didn't feel Blackmon was ready to test Monday, so he will test Wednesday, McCarthy said.

Quick hits

* TE Bubba Franks (knee) and WR Koren Robinson (knee) left practice after the jog-through, presumably to get treatment.

* CB Charles Woodson (toe) appeared to be a full participant.

* RB Brandon Jackson was absent because of illness. UPDATE: Jackson is expected to practce Wednesday, McCarthy said.

 

[cacksman]

Whoever can establish the run in this game will win. Cheering for number 4 to take a beat down

If that's the case then Seattle has no chance.. they have no such thing as a running game..

Doesnt Washington have a run game? Seattle managed to outrush them last weekend and Washington has a better run game than GB.

 

[scott72]

Spitz practices, Blackmon doesn't

Practice notes: Spitz practices

Guard Jason Spitz was back on the practice field and taking most or all of his normal work this morning inside The Don Hutson Center.

Spitz, who sustained a strained quadriceps in the regular-season finale Dec. 30 against Detroit, didn't practice last week and was scheduled to test his injury Monday. Clearly, he passed the test. UPDATE: "He's doing better," coach Mike McCarthy said after practice. "We have an injury report that we'll file (Wednesday), but I think we'll be very healthy for the game, including Jason."

Fullback John Kuhn (bruise) and linebacker Tracy White also returned to action, but cornerback Will Blackmon (foot) did not. Like Spitz, Blackman was to test the injury -- described by coach Mike McCarthy last week as an "irritation" of an old injury -- on Monday. But Blackmon only stood and watched as the defense went through the portions of practice open to reporters. It wasn't immediately clear whether he failed the test or was sitting out as a precaution. UPDATE: The team didn't feel Blackmon was ready to test Monday, so he will test Wednesday, McCarthy said.

Quick hits

* TE Bubba Franks (knee) and WR Koren Robinson (knee) left practice after the jog-through, presumably to get treatment.

* CB Charles Woodson (toe) appeared to be a full participant.

* RB Brandon Jackson was absent because of illness. UPDATE: Jackson is expected to practce Wednesday, McCarthy said.

 

[scott72]

Whoever can establish the run in this game will win. Cheering for number 4 to take a beat down

If that's the case then Seattle has no chance.. they have no such thing as a running game..

Doesnt Washington have a run game? Seattle managed to outrush them last weekend and Washington has a better run game than GB.

Washington's O line is no match for GB's. The Pack should be able to match up against Seattle's D line as it sounds like they're going to be healthy for the game. Also Seattle didn't need to respect Collins the way they'll have to respect Brett and his WR's. Quite different circumstances. If Seattle gets too aggressive they'll simple take the short stuff and go down the middle to Bubba or Lee although I think Bubba will have a lot of blocking assignments.

 

[stevegamer]

Nice to see a thread out here this early - I'm worried about this game. If Hasselbeck doesn't shape up, we're toast, as the running game isn't good enough, and I don't want to say "Hasselpick is back" again this week. I'm guessing you were calling him the 'Hawks best player - which he isn't - but he's the most important player on offense. I'd take Jones over him, and a few defenders at minimum - Tatupu, Peteron, Trufant, maybe Kerney.The D looked great against Washington for most of the game, and I'm happy we've got a championship-quality D now.

Hasselbeck is definitely Seattle's best player. There is no other player that would hurt the team more were he to get injured. You could MAYBE make a case for Jones but he has lost a step. The defense is very good but a loss of one player wouldnt be as damaging to the team as an injury to Hass.

And that is what I mean by "most important player." Hass goes down and this team is done. Jones goes down they are in big trouble. One of the defenders goes down, especially Trufant...trouble. Hey Cletius>What's up with GB's O-line? This is the first I've heard of anything being wrong.

In my book, "best" != "most important". I think the team could replace Hass with a competent backup, who had gotten reps if this was the regular season. I like what I've seen out of Wallace, but I'd be leery about losing my QB now. In the offseason, if something freakish happened there are players I'd fel worse about losing than Hasselbeck.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Seattle at Green Bay

SEA 9th OFF; GB 11th DEF

SEA 20th RUN; GB 14th VS. RUN

SEA 8th PASS; GB 12th VS. PASS

SEA 9th PTS; GB 6th PTS ALLOWED

GB 2nd OFF; SEA 15th DEF

GB 21st RUN; SEA 12th VS. RUN

GB 2nd PASS; SEA 19th VS. PASS

GB 4th PTS; SEA 6th PTS ALLOWED

SEA 5th TO/TA; GB 10th TO/TA

SEA is 3-5 on the road this season, compared to 8-1 at home.

SEA last had a playoff meeting with GB in a wild-card game during the 2003 season, which GB won in OT, 33-27.

SEA’s LBs had 35 of the team’s 76 tackles last week in a 35-14 win over WAS.

SEA has won just 1 road playoff game in its history and hasn’t won a road playoff game since it beat MIA in 1983.

SEA QB Matt Hasselbeck has thrown more than 1 TD pass in 10 of 17 games this season.

GB QB Brett Favre is 7-2 in playoff games at Lambeau Field.

GB had more than 83 yards rushing just twice in its first 8 games, but had at least 100 yards rushing in 7 of its last 8 games.

GB is 7-1 at home this season.

GB went 3-1 against playoff teams in the regular season.

GB WR Donald Driver hasn’t scored a TD since Week Three and has just 2 TDs this season.

 

[BLOX]

If Blackmon doesn't play I think that's a bit of a concern. I believe that he's the best nickel back on the roster. Of course Bush and Williams have looked very good in spots, but Blackmon is a pretty good DB. If he can't go that hurts a bit. Bush and Williams just have to step it up a bit is all.

Halfway throught the week now. We're getting closer. I cannot wait for this game. Not "TO" get ahead of myself here but someone in Dallas may not be playing this week. This can only mean good things await Brett Favre and Co. in two weeks.

 

[Power Monster]

Whoever can establish the run in this game will win. Cheering for number 4 to take a beat down

If that's the case then Seattle has no chance.. they have no such thing as a running game..

Doesnt Washington have a run game? Seattle managed to outrush them last weekend and Washington has a better run game than GB.

Great point! If GB can run AND they have number 4 and the GB stable of receivers- game over. This is the difference between the Packers offense and the Redskins offense. As we know- the power of the Pack has been the passing game this year with limited games where the run has been the predominate phase of the offensive production. Someone mentioned that these teams are evenly matched. While true- the lone exception is GB has the potential to run the ball. Seattle is trying to get the running game going but it is not happening. Now- where I mention here that the GB rushing attack can put the game away for GB on the flip side- the Seattle defense is playing very well. If this unit can rattle Brett and get some turnovers (especially in the second half) they can punch their ticket to the Championship. Would Seattle gain HF advantage back if they win and the Giants win?

 

[sho nuff]

Whoever can establish the run in this game will win. Cheering for number 4 to take a beat down

If that's the case then Seattle has no chance.. they have no such thing as a running game..

Doesnt Washington have a run game? Seattle managed to outrush them last weekend and Washington has a better run game than GB.

Except that Washington has much less of a threat of a passing game...and the threat of Todd Collins vs. Brett Favre is a bit different too.

 

[Kuz]

Whoever can establish the run in this game will win. Cheering for number 4 to take a beat down

If that's the case then Seattle has no chance.. they have no such thing as a running game..

Doesnt Washington have a run game? Seattle managed to outrush them last weekend and Washington has a better run game than GB.

They outrushed them by 2 #######g yards.. All I'm saying is if Seattle is going to win this game it won't be due to their running game.. They will have to score through the air & get quite a bit of pressure on Favre & force him to throw a few picks..