Banger
Footballguy
the mood is completely different in the sitautions....the Titans need Johnson a lot more than the Chargers needed VJax and the Titans recognize that. They are trying to cheap out but it sounds like they are seeing the light.
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Ongoing Chris Johnson Discussions (1 Viewer)
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Not going to happen.. CJ has a lot of pride and that is why he has been holding out... but he also thinks he is the best player in the NFL, and there is no way he is going to miss any action... he fully intends on playing this year.. he was just holding out as long as possible to show the Titans how serious he was because last year they didn't do #### for him after he ran for 2,000 yards... HE WILL PLAY WEEK 1.. Count IT!'Louisville Slugger said:
Why not post the whole headline? Why just post something that could be read as extremely negative...for those interested, here is the rest of the blurb. Sounds a little more promising then what was posted above.According to the Nashville Tennessean's Jim Wyatt, "nothing has changed" regarding Chris Johnson's contract status with the Titans.It sounds like Wyatt got word from Titans management trying to regain a hint of leverage after NFL Network's reports suggested they were ready to "open the vault" for Johnson. Wyatt concedes that both sides have "plenty of incentive" and "something's going to have to give one way or the other in the next week. ... Both sides want to get this thing worked out and now is the time."'Louisville Slugger said:
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
They can dish it out on Twitter, but don't want to take it. What a doosh!
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Hoart Petterson
Footballguy
How soon until the NFL prohibits all players from using social media? Within two years is my guess.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Someone should explain to CJ that if he says he "can care less", that means he actually does care.And they should also explain that if he honestly doesn't care, then it isn't worth Twittering about.
footballguy#1
Footballguy
Doesn't sound like a guy about to sign a contract.
Sorry, that was me. I thought it would be funny to hack Johnson's Twitter account and tell Titans fans to ####. Johnson will confirm this shortly.
MacGruber
Footballguy
Doesn't sound like a guy who realizes his public perception matters a bit in this negotiation.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
is Chris ###### on me one more time I'm trading his ### straight up for K Janikowski and change my FF MFL helmet from Titans to Raiders
I'll show him !!
I'll show him !!
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I'll take the under.
gotexansgo
Footballguy
"The Nashville Tennessean reports that contract talks between the Titans and Chris Johnson have "picked up," and there is "reason to be optimistic" a deal will be worked out before Week 1.
Citing multiple sources, beat writer Jim Wyatt reports there has been "positive movement" for the first time in negotiations after a nearly month-long training camp holdout. Credit NFL Network's Mike Lombardi for predicting this late Tuesday. The Titans feel a sense of urgency with the season opener just 12 days away, and are believed to be making "very aggressive" overtures. At this point, we'd be surprised if Johnson didn't play in Week 1.
Source: Jim Wyatt on Twitter"
With all the positive news the past couple days, looking like this might end any day now.
Citing multiple sources, beat writer Jim Wyatt reports there has been "positive movement" for the first time in negotiations after a nearly month-long training camp holdout. Credit NFL Network's Mike Lombardi for predicting this late Tuesday. The Titans feel a sense of urgency with the season opener just 12 days away, and are believed to be making "very aggressive" overtures. At this point, we'd be surprised if Johnson didn't play in Week 1.
Source: Jim Wyatt on Twitter"
With all the positive news the past couple days, looking like this might end any day now.
Dancing Bear
Footballguy
Even if this ends [which I don't think it will], how many weeks before Chris Johnson is "football ready" in order to prevent injury?
Just for the record, I love what Chris Johnson means to the game, but he is definitely not worth Top QB money.
Now for the real issue ...
Revis did this same thing last year and look what happened to him? Without "football ready" practice and reps, he hurt his hamstring in week 2. He was not the same player of the previous 3 years! I don't think he ever recovered ...
Look back to 1993 when Emmitt Smith did this same thing; he held out through Training Camp and the 1st 2 weeks of the season [losses for Dallas]. After he eventually signed, he played sparingly and had a fortuitous Bye week mixed in; it was a full month before he was carrying the RB1 load!
Even if Chris Johnson signs at some point, his play should be gradually increased throughout a full month before he is taking on the RB1 load. Otherwise he and the Titans are rolling the dice. This critically impacts his contribution to the the team and to Fantasy owners everywhere!
Just for the record, I love what Chris Johnson means to the game, but he is definitely not worth Top QB money.
Now for the real issue ...
Revis did this same thing last year and look what happened to him? Without "football ready" practice and reps, he hurt his hamstring in week 2. He was not the same player of the previous 3 years! I don't think he ever recovered ...
Look back to 1993 when Emmitt Smith did this same thing; he held out through Training Camp and the 1st 2 weeks of the season [losses for Dallas]. After he eventually signed, he played sparingly and had a fortuitous Bye week mixed in; it was a full month before he was carrying the RB1 load!
Even if Chris Johnson signs at some point, his play should be gradually increased throughout a full month before he is taking on the RB1 load. Otherwise he and the Titans are rolling the dice. This critically impacts his contribution to the the team and to Fantasy owners everywhere!
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gotexansgo
Footballguy
Yes but Emmitt did end up with 1900 total yards and 10 TDs...as a CJ owner I would be more then happy with those numbers, even if they didnt start coming until 4 weeks down the road.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Much ado about nothing. Look at Foster. Guy's in "game shape" and his hammy is in shreds.
Dancing Bear
Footballguy
You are mixing topics ...You are also misrepresenting facts. Foster fits into the same thing. He lost all the reps from OTA's and Training Camp, and he certainly is a risk without the "football ready" preparation.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
It's a miracle then that Rice has made it through preseason with the amount of work he's put in.My point is that one or two pieces of anecdotal evidence isn't worth jack in making a claim that holdouts are injury susceptible. It might take a couple rough practices to knock the rust off but claiming he's gonna pull a hammy because he hasn't been in camp is ridiculous.
RhymesMcJuice
Footballguy
Ok, Chris, I'll shut the #### up now.
You should spell check today.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Social Media ruining lives one at a time
eakfootball
Footballguy
Scefter just tweeted "Talks have intensified today, both sides know it's crunch time"
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Let's call the over/under $25 million guaranteed. What ya got?
Banger
Footballguy
that's a good bar....I'd say maybe right on or slightly over $25M
Birdnals
Footballguy
Definitely over. D'Angelo got 21 and you think he'll only get 4 more than that? I think his guaranteed will be near what the total contract value is, much like we saw with the top draft picks this season, in lieu of a top 3 $ deal.
eakfootball
Footballguy
My GUESS is 5 years 54 million with 27 mil. guaranteed.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I hope this gets done so I can drop harper and ringer off my squad (or at least one of them). Small benches and the CJ owner hasn't bit yet on a trade, and I need more WR-TE depth.
dagwood
Footballguy
Maybe you need to lower your asking price.
gotexansgo
Footballguy
better to get something rather then nothing and just end up dropping said players.i offered ringer to the cj owner for bernard scott and the guy acted insulted. it seems after a guy is drafted his value increases approx 5 draft rounds.
Birdnals
Footballguy
http://ten.247sports.com/Article/Titans-and-Chris-Johnson-appear-to-be-close-to-an-agreement-37913Yeaaah budddddy! Everyone made fun of me for picking CJ3 with the 9th overall pick. Including myself. Let's get this done and hope he doesn't do the "i'm paid, now I don't give a #%@!" thing!
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scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Can pumping iron and running on a treadmill prepare him for getting hit by extremely large, fast men about 30 times per game?Color me scared to death b/c I have the 4th overall pick and might have to choose between this guy and someone else.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
After taking him in two leagues I had the 5 pick last night and passed on him.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I honestly don't want him. With the lockout and this holdout I have no idea what he's been doing. I have very little confidence in the guy right now......I know I'm in the minority though.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Word, I just picked him up @ 1.11 in redraft.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Just a quick warning for you CJ owners. His first game is a 1:00 pm start in Jacksonville and should be hot, hot hot. If he has been slacking at all on his conditioning that sun will make him pay for it quickly. I know everyone is going to start him regardless, but I'd lower my expectation a little for him week one.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Dude's from Orlando and played ball at ECU. He'll be fine. May not get a full load but Ringer isn't in great shape and Harper is a rook in a shortened offseason. Presuming CJ signs and is announced as the starter, he's a must start. How can you not?
Doji Style
Footballguy
I'm not starting him week 1, however im stacked at RB. I'll be running Rice, Forte and S.Jax at the flex.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
CJ is a workout fiend and lives in Orlando. Doubt the heat in Jacksonville is going to make a difference.
No doubt expectations should be tempered for the first couple weeks, and all the standard caveats apply (workout vs football shape, getting used to taking hits, learning the new offense, reps with his teammates, etc.), but his conditioning is not what I'd be worried about.
No doubt expectations should be tempered for the first couple weeks, and all the standard caveats apply (workout vs football shape, getting used to taking hits, learning the new offense, reps with his teammates, etc.), but his conditioning is not what I'd be worried about.
Andrew Garda
Moderator
Now that he IS signed...... he's still a top back, better than he was a week ago. Problem is, many (not all) players who hold out get dinged up more often than they otherwise would. If you add to it the large number of carries he has had, I'm a bit concerned. He's a first round talent though (esp in PPR leagues) so when I redo my rankings tonight or tomorrow, I'll move him up, probably around picks 5-7 overall players & rbs. I think he's a top ten pick, but he's got some concerns.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
The problem is he's not a huge fantasy player so his bench is so shallow. Obviously he's a TCU homer as well and spent his last two draft picks on Kerley and Dalton for kicks.As a Deangelo owner I asked for J Stew for Harper and Ringer packaged. One sided my way? Yes, but I figured someone that drafted Kerley and Dalton might bite.His BenchJonathan Stewart Jeremy KerleyDanny WoodheadSteve BreastonAndy DaltonEdit: Just saw he struck a deal so this is moot.My running backs are decent and I need TE/WR depth, unless you sharks can convince me to hold one to one of these guys.
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