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This is just like Shockey and Coughlin. It's a big deal and we all talk about it mainly because we don't have a lot to talk about but as soon as he shows up in great shape, it's over.

J
Joe -Your position here at FBG is comparable to that of Bill Parcells; being open-minded and toleratent of a variety of people who contribute to the whole. I think you are very tolerant of some trolls around here (I fear I walk this line on occasion myself), but you have certainly encountered some FBGers who genuinely just want to create problems for others (or specifically you); and (I assume) you have supported IP Bans of some of these individuals (who most likely deserved it).

But I am genuinely interested in what you think of individuals who genuinely feel being difficult and disruptive is not subject to review when deciding what is and is not for the betterment of the team (or message board) or the whole?
Hi Blue,I guess it's a matter of degree. In my opinion, TO working out at home is about like what I would equate the best poster on the board here having a sig that is too long but was really passionate about letting folks know whatever it was in the sig. Just not a really big deal.

But then I guess purpose figures into it. I don't think TO is trying to purposefully be disrpuptive with the workouts. The goal is to get in shape and he feels he can get in the best shape by working out with his own people.

Purposefully being disruptive would be a different thing in my opinion.

J
But you must have posters who are genuinely interested in pushing the line a little further each time, which is what I equate T.O. to being. Do you feel differently about T.O. or do you think he is one of those guys who will, 'just keep pushing the line'? This is really the crux of my posting in here, I think T.O. would 'keep pushing the line' and this incident may or may not be an incident of him pushing the line, but I expect it to come.

 
This is just like Shockey and Coughlin. It's a big deal and we all talk about it mainly because we don't have a lot to talk about but as soon as he shows up in great shape, it's over.

J
Joe -Your position here at FBG is comparable to that of Bill Parcells; being open-minded and toleratent of a variety of people who contribute to the whole. I think you are very tolerant of some trolls around here (I fear I walk this line on occasion myself), but you have certainly encountered some FBGers who genuinely just want to create problems for others (or specifically you); and (I assume) you have supported IP Bans of some of these individuals (who most likely deserved it).

But I am genuinely interested in what you think of individuals who genuinely feel being difficult and disruptive is not subject to review when deciding what is and is not for the betterment of the team (or message board) or the whole?
Hi Blue,I guess it's a matter of degree. In my opinion, TO working out at home is about like what I would equate the best poster on the board here having a sig that is too long but was really passionate about letting folks know whatever it was in the sig. Just not a really big deal.

But then I guess purpose figures into it. I don't think TO is trying to purposefully be disrpuptive with the workouts. The goal is to get in shape and he feels he can get in the best shape by working out with his own people.

Purposefully being disruptive would be a different thing in my opinion.

J
But you must have posters who are genuinely interested in pushing the line a little further each time, which is what I equate T.O. to being. Do you feel differently about T.O. or do you think he is one of those guys who will, 'just keep pushing the line'? This is really the crux of my posting in here, I think T.O. would 'keep pushing the line' and this incident may or may not be an incident of him pushing the line, but I expect it to come.
Hi Blue,I love Owens. I definitely don't think he is going to keep pushing the line just for the sake of pushing it.

J

 
T.O., the problem, is a compilation of little things.  T.O. did not 'step over' some line in San Francisco or in Philly; T.O. just graded on his teams one little piece at a time.  And again, this really doesn't make T.O. that different from other superstars.  What does make T.O. unique is that he doesn't accept responsibility for his little pieces of actions that accumulate over time.

Arbitrarily speaking, this is just piece [1/15], 14 little pieces to go.  Once T.O. gets to [15/15], it will be the same thing we have seen in San Francisco and Philladelphia.

Dallas - "We have had enough"

T.O. - "What did I do?  I didn't show up for 1 voluntary workout?  PUH-leeze, I love me for me!"
As long as he produces on the field for one season, I am ok with the aftermath.
I don't see a lot of Philly and San Fran fans posting the same thing.
 
T.O., the problem, is a compilation of little things.  T.O. did not 'step over' some line in San Francisco or in Philly; T.O. just graded on his teams one little piece at a time.  And again, this really doesn't make T.O. that different from other superstars.  What does make T.O. unique is that he doesn't accept responsibility for his little pieces of actions that accumulate over time.

Arbitrarily speaking, this is just piece [1/15], 14 little pieces to go.  Once T.O. gets to [15/15], it will be the same thing we have seen in San Francisco and Philladelphia.

Dallas - "We have had enough"

T.O. - "What did I do?  I didn't show up for 1 voluntary workout?  PUH-leeze, I love me for me!"
As long as he produces on the field for one season, I am ok with the aftermath.
I don't see a lot of Philly and San Fran fans posting the same thing.
I also don't see a team or a contract that is equipped to dump him after a year. Here's the poll question of the day: who stays with Dallas longer, TO or Parcells?

 
This is just like Shockey and Coughlin. It's a big deal and we all talk about it mainly because we don't have a lot to talk about but as soon as he shows up in great shape, it's over.

J
Joe -Your position here at FBG is comparable to that of Bill Parcells; being open-minded and toleratent of a variety of people who contribute to the whole. I think you are very tolerant of some trolls around here (I fear I walk this line on occasion myself), but you have certainly encountered some FBGers who genuinely just want to create problems for others (or specifically you); and (I assume) you have supported IP Bans of some of these individuals (who most likely deserved it).

But I am genuinely interested in what you think of individuals who genuinely feel being difficult and disruptive is not subject to review when deciding what is and is not for the betterment of the team (or message board) or the whole?
Hi Blue,I guess it's a matter of degree. In my opinion, TO working out at home is about like what I would equate the best poster on the board here having a sig that is too long but was really passionate about letting folks know whatever it was in the sig. Just not a really big deal.

But then I guess purpose figures into it. I don't think TO is trying to purposefully be disrpuptive with the workouts. The goal is to get in shape and he feels he can get in the best shape by working out with his own people.

Purposefully being disruptive would be a different thing in my opinion.

J
But you must have posters who are genuinely interested in pushing the line a little further each time, which is what I equate T.O. to being. Do you feel differently about T.O. or do you think he is one of those guys who will, 'just keep pushing the line'? This is really the crux of my posting in here, I think T.O. would 'keep pushing the line' and this incident may or may not be an incident of him pushing the line, but I expect it to come.
Hi Blue,I love Owens. I definitely don't think he is going to keep pushing the line just for the sake of pushing it.

J
You really believe that? I love Owens too but I love him because I believe he is a guy who will keep pushing the line just to get a reaction out of people; whether it is fans, the organization, the coach or a teammate.

To me, that is what I find so entertaining about T.O..

 

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