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Owners trying to trade or get Lamont Jordan (1 Viewer)
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SDJohnny
Footballguy
As a Raider Fan I can tell you people are not overreacting. Lamont Jordan is going to have a tough year. I would keep Gore, If you must have Jordan wait until next week after the Balt game and see if you can get him for less.
I know it's typical shark thinking to swoop in when players are devalued but sometimes they are devauled for good reasons.
I know it's typical shark thinking to swoop in when players are devalued but sometimes they are devauled for good reasons.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
He's not nuts. I prefer FWP, Taylor and Gore to Jordan this season and have since before this first game.
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In a 10 team league, I was offered:
LJ & LJ
for
Ronnie Brown, Gore, Ahman
I also have Rudi Johnson and Brian Westbrook (took RB 5/6 of my first picks), Ahman slid and I nabbed Gore right at the best time IMO.
I am still contemplating it, but likely to say no.
Starting RB's of:
Larry Johnson
Rudi Johnson
Brian Westbrook
Sounds pretty enticing though.
LJ & LJ
for
Ronnie Brown, Gore, Ahman
I also have Rudi Johnson and Brian Westbrook (took RB 5/6 of my first picks), Ahman slid and I nabbed Gore right at the best time IMO.
I am still contemplating it, but likely to say no.
Starting RB's of:
Larry Johnson
Rudi Johnson
Brian Westbrook
Sounds pretty enticing though.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
DON'T DO IT!
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
you guys are overreacting way too much, it's only been one week. remember Tomlinson still got his numbers a few years ago on a horrible San Diego team. I know LDT > Jordan but I still think it's a decent comparison. as a RB he'll still get lots of touches IMO.
Normally, I'd agree with you: don't overreact to one bad week. But I don't think this Raiders team is a normal NFL team at this point. Normal teams don't have offensive coordinators with bios like this:Since being fired by the Raiders, Walsh was head coach for two seasons at Idaho State and worked as director of operations and head coach of a minor-league franchise in Mobile, Ala. He has been out of football since 1999.
Walsh owns and operates the Hansen Guest Ranch in Swan Valley, Idaho. Reached at the ranch by telephone, Walsh said he wouldn't talk about his new job until next week.
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/OAK/9283828
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el-gato-grande
Footballguy
What the big green guy said.
I thought about trading for Jordan. I'm still thinking about it, but the Raiders look like a downright mess. Its the offensive line I'm most worried about. If I thought they could plug in a new QB (like Walters) and do something, then Jordan would be an excellent buy-low prospect. But, I'm thinking that is NOT the case after watching Game 1.
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I'm trying to parlay my RB's performances in week 1 to try and upgrade that position for me. I was hoping my reaches at RB would pan out for me in the second half of the season but they all had relatively good games so I am looking at other teams that might be in desperation and upgrade either my RB's or QB's. I play in a start 1RB 1WR and 2FLEX(WR/TE/RB) league and have good depth at WR. MY QB's are scaring me at the moment(CPEP,Favre,and Frye) and would like a more secure player at that position. My RB's are SJackson, Maroney, Duece, and Henry. SJax is untouchable but I'm going to try and package Duece, Henry, and CPep to try and acquire Palmer and another RB. Hopefully I can pull it off. BTW my WR's that I started last week were Harrison, Burress, and Reg Brown so i am relatively happy with a possible starting lineup of those three to also include Jackson and Maroney and to just mix and match those guys up.
Or totally crap out if Dillons stays healthy and Taylor gets injured.
WildEyedOne
Footballguy
I'm gonna take my chances and hang on to Jordan. I could count at least 6 times that he hit his block and stepped out into the flat looking for a dump off pass just as Brooks was tucking the ball and getting flattened. You got to think they'll see that on film and take advantage of some of those situations going forward. Best defense against the rush can make anyone look bad..even the Raiders
Of course I was fortunate to get Gore and Bush in my PPR league so can afford to sit a few weeks
Of course I was fortunate to get Gore and Bush in my PPR league so can afford to sit a few weeks
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RRaptors
Footballguy
Agreed. I'm in a 10 teamer so I can afford to hang onto him to, but I'm still going to wait it out since I have other options.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Which is where I think Jordan is now. So in other words ALOT more upside and the same exact downside.
jeter23
Footballguy
I am keeping him at this point for a couple of reasons. His value is very low and you couldn't get anything close to what you invested in him. Also, I think that he will improve from last night. The Radiers suck, but they did last year too and he put up good numbers. I know...new coach, new OC. There have been plenty of good FF backs that played on terrible teams.
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jeez, I offered Maroney for Jordan straight up.
really unfair imo, but the guy's been trying to get him from me all season. I think he looks at Maroney as this year's breakout RB since he traded for LJ early on last season and lucked out.
i'm not gonna talk him out of it.
really unfair imo, but the guy's been trying to get him from me all season. I think he looks at Maroney as this year's breakout RB since he traded for LJ early on last season and lucked out.
i'm not gonna talk him out of it.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
are ya'll the same ones trying to trade Sean Alexander for little to nothing ?
hopefully Oakland will correct this. As a Jordan owner, I'm not selling. Would I "buy" him if I could ? Yes I would
hopefully Oakland will correct this. As a Jordan owner, I'm not selling. Would I "buy" him if I could ? Yes I would
WildEyedOne
Footballguy
With you Cat. Lets hope it pays off
FF Dude
Footballguy
I'm praying somebody offers me something..anything decent for LJordan. And last year I was the guy looking to dump KJones in the preseason. Sometimes preseason and first games really do mean something. In this case it means that Oakland's O is going to be horrible and LJorday is going to get <40 passes this year which was his saving grace last year. I may break both my ankles but I am jumping off this bandwagon.WildEyedOne said:With you Cat. Lets hope it pays offStealthycat said:
Resident A
Footballguy
I have both FWP & Chester in my league. No way would I trade either for Jordan. I knew the raiders were gonna stink & I purposely avoided Jordan on draft day.budguy39 said:
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Jordan has an incredibly rough schedule to go. He has a nice three game run after the bye, I would wait and trade him then if I owned him.
jzygmunt
Footballguy
This isn't the first time I've said this, but I'll give it a go again.
LaMont Jordan was a product of Norv Turner's offensive scheme. He isn't/wasn't worthy of the automatic RB1 status he recieved this year.
He's a decent back with a decent skill-set, but he's on a terrible team. He benefitted last year from a boatload of receptions and long runs out of passing formations. He's not going to have much luck behind a dreadful offensive line in a run-first offense. If you made the mistake of drafting this guy as your #1 running back, try to deal him before the Raiders officially collapse.
LaMont Jordan was a product of Norv Turner's offensive scheme. He isn't/wasn't worthy of the automatic RB1 status he recieved this year.
He's a decent back with a decent skill-set, but he's on a terrible team. He benefitted last year from a boatload of receptions and long runs out of passing formations. He's not going to have much luck behind a dreadful offensive line in a run-first offense. If you made the mistake of drafting this guy as your #1 running back, try to deal him before the Raiders officially collapse.
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my man otis
Footballguy
FWIW, I just traded Jordan for Kevin Jones straight up. Got turned down with Jordan for Chester straight up.
I drafted Jordan as my RB2 in what would would be an early to mid-2nd round pick in a non-keeper format.
From what I read Jones had a better game than his numbers show. He's got a tough matchup this week with Chicago, but Ahman had a good game against them. Det has a nice stretch of good rushing matchups after that, plus I expect the Lions O to improve as the year goes on.
Not a great trade, but I just couldn't sit there with Jordan @ Baltimore then on a bye without a reliable RB3 behind him. He's basically useless for the next two weeks, which is 17% of the rest of the FF regular season.
I drafted Jordan as my RB2 in what would would be an early to mid-2nd round pick in a non-keeper format.
From what I read Jones had a better game than his numbers show. He's got a tough matchup this week with Chicago, but Ahman had a good game against them. Det has a nice stretch of good rushing matchups after that, plus I expect the Lions O to improve as the year goes on.
Not a great trade, but I just couldn't sit there with Jordan @ Baltimore then on a bye without a reliable RB3 behind him. He's basically useless for the next two weeks, which is 17% of the rest of the FF regular season.
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my man otis Today, 11:02 AMPost #28 FootballguyGroup: MembersJoined: 27-May 03From: RELAX, IT'S WEEK 1 PEOPLE!!! <---------------------
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my man otis
Footballguy
LOL, didn't take my own advice!I ususally don't but I just got really pessimistic on Jordan.my man otis Today, 11:02 AMPost #28 FootballguyGroup: MembersJoined: 27-May 03From: RELAX, IT'S WEEK 1 PEOPLE!!! <---------------------
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Redwes25
Footballguy
I am going to look to pick him up in my leagues after the game against Baltimore. He has a bye in Week 3 so his owner might be desperate and looking for a decent start that week.
His schedule is not too dificult the rest of the season as he plays San Fran, Arizona, and KC twice. He also plays KC and Stl. in the playoffs.
I think those are pretty good matchups and his value will be very low after Baltimore destroys them this week. I would not be looking to buy him this week as I think his value will be even lower after the next game.
His schedule is not too dificult the rest of the season as he plays San Fran, Arizona, and KC twice. He also plays KC and Stl. in the playoffs.
I think those are pretty good matchups and his value will be very low after Baltimore destroys them this week. I would not be looking to buy him this week as I think his value will be even lower after the next game.
Shiggy Shaol
Footballguy
Just completed the following trade in a 12 team PPR league.
Traded: Fred Taylor, Deion Branch, JETS Defense
Got back: LaMont Jordan, Jerry Porter, SKINS Defense
I was impressed by Taylor's hard nosed running against the Cowboys but I just can't get comfortable thinking that he's gonna last while getting all these touches. I think Branch could be productive in Seattle but I don't know that. Plus, it'll be about 3 weeks or so before he starts to produce there, in my opinion.
Figured this was a "buy low" op on Jordan and I feel like the SKINS are a definite upgrade over the JETS. I'll put Porter at the end of my bench (just like Art Shell did) and see if something happens there.
Taylor was my RB3. Now Jordan becomes my RB2 behind Tomlinson and Bush is my RB3.
Traded: Fred Taylor, Deion Branch, JETS Defense
Got back: LaMont Jordan, Jerry Porter, SKINS Defense
I was impressed by Taylor's hard nosed running against the Cowboys but I just can't get comfortable thinking that he's gonna last while getting all these touches. I think Branch could be productive in Seattle but I don't know that. Plus, it'll be about 3 weeks or so before he starts to produce there, in my opinion.
Figured this was a "buy low" op on Jordan and I feel like the SKINS are a definite upgrade over the JETS. I'll put Porter at the end of my bench (just like Art Shell did) and see if something happens there.
Taylor was my RB3. Now Jordan becomes my RB2 behind Tomlinson and Bush is my RB3.
aldelgreco
Footballguy
Jesus I can't get anything for him!I'm thinking about taking the Chicago D
DreamTheater
Footballguy
I was offered K McCardell and D Williams for him today.. 
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I agree.
my man otis
Footballguy
giving or getting jordan in each?
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Sounds like he's attempting to dump Jordan.
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
I offered Barlow for Jordan. I haven't heard the verdict yet. 
cheeseypoof
Footballguy
I have a pending trade (verbally agreed to just waiting for the online acceptance) to deal Lamont Jordan and Brett Favre for DeShaun Foster and Phillip Rivers. It's a auction/keeper league. I already have DeAngelo Williams and Rivers is cap friendly next year as a possible keeper qb to pair with Eli.
dallas ram
Footballguy
Jordan just traded for Dillon and Mike Bell in my league (1 PPR)
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
In my league, I was going to trade Barlow and TBell for Lamont Jordan and leave him as my RB3...however that owner got a call and was offered Ahman Green and Deuce McAllister for him...can't say I blame him for jumping all over that.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
makes sense.Farve is a joke.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Dynasty league, 16 teams.
Was offered:
Lee Evans
2007 1st round rookie pick
2007 3rd round rookie pick
for
LaMont Jordan
Was offered:
Lee Evans
2007 1st round rookie pick
2007 3rd round rookie pick
for
LaMont Jordan
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Also in a 16 team dynasty league, I offered Droughns for Jordan straight up. He rejected.
wolfie
Footballguy
Acquired Lamont & M. Moore in a 14 team auction league, $200 bid money with 0 min nomination, for Droughns and Lee Evans. Lamont is my rb 4 behind McGahee. Dunn, and Chester Taylor. Also have Tatum, Marion Barber, and Norwood, Can start 3 rbs, standard scoring with ppr. Spent a ton on rbs, nothing on QB(2% ) and K( 0%), about 25% of auction money on wrs, spent 7% of 200 auction dollars on Watson & Ravens.
Qbs are Favre and Rivers, wrs Driver, Kennison, Williamson, Jenkins, and Clayton(Bal), TE Watson, K Koenen, got to get a new one, Df Ravens.
Probably could have got Jordan for less, had 6 owners in a group together, no one would even give him an offer for Jordan. Raiders can't be this bad all year.
Qbs are Favre and Rivers, wrs Driver, Kennison, Williamson, Jenkins, and Clayton(Bal), TE Watson, K Koenen, got to get a new one, Df Ravens.
Probably could have got Jordan for less, had 6 owners in a group together, no one would even give him an offer for Jordan. Raiders can't be this bad all year.
