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[CGRdrJoe]

I never liked the show much.  This season was a little better early.  Worst ending ever.  I feel Charlie Browned.

congrats man, you stuck with a show you didn’t   like much just to feel like it was a bad ending. sounds like you drink a case of ####ty beer hoping the last one will taste good but it it doesn’t then at least it was ####ty the whole time.

 

[kupcho1]

** Spoilers below, so don't read if haven't finished! **

Do we really know that he did though? The implication is that he did that and learned to take a full measure (vs the half measure with Helen earlier), but he very easily could have shot his mother. Or into the air

I choose to believe he shot the cookie jar ànd destroyed the evidence

 

[Runkle]

a ##### professor would trigger a cartel to worry? no

All I'm saying is "there's proof Javi was in a violent confrontation after leaving the Byrdes" should lead to a slight hesitation when thinking that 'obviously the Byrdes are in on it'. Because obviously something happened to Javi after he left them, so, why be suspicious that the people who saw him when he was fine had something to do with his death, instead of thinking Javi got mixed up in who-knows-what that night, was in at least one fight, and anything could have happened after... arrested, jumped by a gang, who knows?

 

[offdee]

** Spoilers below, so don't read if haven't finished! **

Do we really know that he did though? The implication is that he did that and learned to take a full measure (vs the half measure with Helen earlier), but he very easily could have shot his mother. Or into the air.

I predicted (to my wife) the fade to black/Sopranos style ending a couple episodes out just because of how inconsistent the characters are. That piece actually fits well.

My take in that he actually shot the PI was simply because he was holding, going to take and use Ben's ashes against his family.   We know how important Ben was to Jonah and he just recently got that gift from Ruth.   Jonah even suggested splitting the ashes up so they could each have some and Ruth commented that it wasn't a bag of sugar they had in there (or something to that effect).   Now this PI dude is talking about Ben's ashes as evidence to be played around with and examined, split up the bones, etc.    I believe that was the tipping point for Jonah to pull the trigger, knowing his family had the means to cover it up and get away with it.

 

[Desert_Power]

*****Mega Spoilers Below*****

See, this is why I actually liked how they ended the final scene. We're all left with a different version of what happened in our heads. Unless the producers actually clarify or do a sequel after the fact. I remember debating with myself (and maybe in this thread?) whether Ben was really dead too after it happened.

This show has flaws, but it is really good at suspense in these high emotion moments. It wasn't a satisfying ending, but it was a rational one. If NFLX does poorly enough, you never know what may come about...

My take in that he actually shot the PI was simply because he was holding, going to take and use Ben's ashes against his family.   We know how important Ben was to Jonah and he just recently got that gift from Ruth.   Jonah even suggested splitting the ashes up so they could each have some and Ruth commented that it wasn't a bag of sugar they had in there (or something to that effect).   Now this PI dude is talking about Ben's ashes as evidence to be played around with and examined, split up the bones, etc.    I believe that was the tipping point for Jonah to pull the trigger, knowing his family had the means to cover it up and get away with it.

I choose to believe he shot the cookie jar ànd destroyed the evidence

 

[beer 30]

Just finished, spoilers below so read at your own risk:

• I, too, thought Ruth would pull out a tape recorder rather than a gun with Gramp's
  
• Marty is the biggest #####whipped character I've seen in a long time
  
• I loved the show, hated the ending. Not because of how it ended but who got ended. Was really pulling for Ruth to get out clean
  
• Who gets the casino now? Ruth's new partner? It was in Ruth's name, guess it's implied her partner gets it. I don't know
  

 

[Galileo]

*****Mega Spoilers Below*****

See, this is why I actually liked how they ended the final scene. We're all left with a different version of what happened in our heads. Unless the producers actually clarify or do a sequel after the fact. I remember debating with myself (and maybe in this thread?) whether Ben was really dead too after it happened.

This show has flaws, but it is really good at suspense in these high emotion moments. It wasn't a satisfying ending, but it was a rational one. If NFLX does poorly enough, you never know what may come about...

For me, Wendy needed to die somehow for any ending to be satisfactory.  It almost wouldn't have mattered how...cartel, politicians, Ruth, car crash...I don't care how.  Best case would have been a Helen style execution where she got it at a moment she wasn't expecting it.

 

[offdee]

Who gets the casino now? Ruth's new partner? It was in Ruth's name, guess it's implied her partner gets it. I don't know

I believe they made a point to make it clear that Ruth didn't own the Casino 100%...she just had majority share.   That's why she said Marty could still be involved but didn't have final say in anything.

If Ruth made some sort of a will and left her shares to the partner, then yes.  My guess though is that if Ruth did some sort of a will then she would've left her shares to Three and that means he is the new Casino owner, lol.   

Three is literally her only immediate family member still alive, correct?    So how does that legally work if you DO NOT have a will....would it still go to Three automatically because he's the only logical family member for Ruth's estate to go to?  Or since Marty was the next majority Casino shareholder does he have first option to buy the open shares due to a death with no will?

Need @Woz or @Otis to weigh in as our resident Saul Goodman's.

 

[Runkle]

For me, Wendy needed to die somehow for any ending to be satisfactory.  It almost wouldn't have mattered how...cartel, politicians, Ruth, car crash...I don't care how.  Best case would have been a Helen style execution where she got it at a moment she wasn't expecting it.

Yeah Wendy really got away with everything. She wasn't close to Ruth... Ruth was Marty's project that Wendy couldn't wait to get rid of. Wendy got to cheat on Marty and still stay married to him at the end. Her kids are fine. She gets the foundation, the money, all of it. Gets to stay in with Shaw Medical and the cartel.

Every insane bat#### decision she made... just made everything worse and harder and messier... but in the end, it's all hers. 

Marty gets screwed, Wendy wins. 

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Yeah Wendy really got away with everything. She wasn't close to Ruth... Ruth was Marty's project that Wendy couldn't wait to get rid of. Wendy got to cheat on Marty and still stay married to him at the end. Her kids are fine. She gets the foundation, the money, all of it. Gets to stay in with Shaw Medical and the cartel.

Every insane bat#### decision she made... just made everything worse and harder and messier... but in the end, it's all hers. 

Marty gets screwed, Wendy wins. 

been thinking along these lines....so does that mean Wendy actually played things out pretty well....?

I mean there wouldn't have been much of a story if one initial plan/pathway worked to perfection and there were no bumps in the road....the chaos and ever changing landscape is what made up a majority of the show....

on a side note....I just kept waiting for Marty to drop the "you know Ruth, none of this would have happened if you didn't initially steal all my ####### money"....so you need to play nice in the sandbox with me now...

 

[Rattle and Hum]

I believe they made a point to make it clear that Ruth didn't own the Casino 100%...she just had majority share.   That's why she said Marty could still be involved but didn't have final say in anything.

If Ruth made some sort of a will and left her shares to the partner, then yes.  My guess though is that if Ruth did some sort of a will then she would've left her shares to Three and that means he is the new Casino owner, lol.   

Three is literally her only immediate family member still alive, correct?    So how does that legally work if you DO NOT have a will....would it still go to Three automatically because he's the only logical family member for Ruth's estate to go to?  Or since Marty was the next majority Casino shareholder does he have first option to buy the open shares due to a death with no will?

Need @Woz or @Otis to weigh in as our resident Saul Goodman's.

You are probably right that it would be Three. Ruth made a point that he did not "know how to be rich" so he would probably sell it to the Byrdes for pennies on the dollar as they would explain how he couldn't be on the license, blah, blah, blah. Plus he would own all that land anyways.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Ultimately, Ruth's temper and her stubbornness got her killed.  When Marty told her to go home in Chicago, that is what she should have done.  Instead, she went back and shot Javi and sealed her fate by ignoring Marty's advice and letting Wyatt's death get the best of her. 

 

[identikit]

Ultimately, Ruth's temper and her stubbornness got her killed.  When Marty told her to go home in Chicago, that is what she should have done.  Instead, she went back and shot Javi and sealed her fate by ignoring Marty's advice and letting Wyatt's death get the best of her. 

Was most likely going to be her ultimate fate.

Most compelling character than anyone else for me.

 

[Runkle]

been thinking along these lines....so does that mean Wendy actually played things out pretty well....?

I mean there wouldn't have been much of a story if one initial plan/pathway worked to perfection and there were no bumps in the road....the chaos and ever changing landscape is what made up a majority of the show....

on a side note....I just kept waiting for Marty to drop the "you know Ruth, none of this would have happened if you didn't initially steal all my ####### money"....so you need to play nice in the sandbox with me now...

I think that's what makes the ending so frustrating, we were following Marty the whole time, but it was Wendy that won. Wendy made bad decisions and got rewarded. Marty was the fast-thinking smart hero who got the shaft in the end and sidelined. Turns out Wendy was the main character the whole time somehow?

 

[Gally]

I think that's what makes the ending so frustrating, we were following Marty the whole time, but it was Wendy that won. Wendy made bad decisions and got rewarded. Marty was the fast-thinking smart hero who got the shaft in the end and sidelined. Turns out Wendy was the main character the whole time somehow?

I actually think Marty wasn't sidelined necessarily but was where he excelled.  He didn't want to be in the forefront.  He excelled at fixing problems and laundering money.  Wendy was there to give him opportunities to fix issues and smooth them over.  

I was surprised that Marty didn't eventually just tell Wendy to stop ####### everything up.  She was way too greedy where he just wanted to launder money and stay in the shadows.  Everything he did was without emotion and was trying to keep emotions out of it.  Throw money at people, figure out ways to get the job done.  I thought after his jaunt to Mexico where he had to get "tougher" that he would take that back to the Ozarks and put Wendy in her place.  It wouldn't have worked as Wendy would have just dug in more and maybe he knew that and that is why he didn't do that.  The ever smoothing over things guy.  

 

[Desert_Power]

I think that's what makes the ending so frustrating, we were following Marty the whole time, but it was Wendy that won. Wendy made bad decisions and got rewarded. Marty was the fast-thinking smart hero who got the shaft in the end and sidelined. Turns out Wendy was the main character the whole time somehow?

I don't know about main character, but certainly the main antagonist. That's why we all would have liked to see her get shot in the end. When she didn't get out of the van initially I definitely hoped Wendy didn't wake up. Her drive for power and other shenanigans constantly put Marty and others in greater peril.

 

[identikit]

I don't know about main character, but certainly the main antagonist. That's why we all would have liked to see her get shot in the end. When she didn't get out of the van initially I definitely hoped Wendy didn't wake up. Her drive for power and other shenanigans constantly put Marty and others in greater peril.

Unlike, say, Skylar who ended up living a miserable life in the aftermath of BB, Wendy gets to stay in the power drama that she loves...

That makes this end disappointing to me

 

[Stinkin Ref]

not a big fan of the show using the car wreck thing as a tease....felt unnecessary for the quality of the show and meant absolutely nothing when all was said and done...they all looked and acted like they could complete a cross fit competition afterwards....heck Wendy did more damage to her own head when she intentionally smashed it on the window....

 

[belljr]

Unlike, say, Skylar who ended up living a miserable life in the aftermath of BB, Wendy gets to stay in the power drama that she loves...

That makes this end disappointing to me

disappointing yes,  but makes sense....the people with money and power keep trucking and the take out whatever little person is in their way

 

[offdee]

not a big fan of the show using the car wreck thing as a tease....felt unnecessary for the quality of the show and meant absolutely nothing when all was said and done...they all looked and acted like they could complete a cross fit competition afterwards....heck Wendy did more damage to her own head when she intentionally smashed it on the window....

Yeah that was all strange.  Why did they even need to be in a car accident…was it just to visually show all the family members emotions and love for each other and that, in the end, they all don’t want to see any of them gone (die) from their lives? 

 

[identikit]

Yeah that was all strange.  Why did they even need to be in a car accident…was it just to visually show all the family members emotions and love for each other and that, in the end, they all don’t want to see any of them gone (die) from their lives? 

I think the intent may have been how a twist of fate could ruin everything.

Not unlike Chigurh's near-fatal random accident in No Country for Old Men

 

[identikit]

disappointing yes,  but makes sense....the people with money and power keep trucking and the take out whatever little person is in their way

Unlike BB where all the big players finished badly.  Other than Jesse who was more of a moral hero to most.

For me, why the BB ending is much, much better....

 

[eoMMan]

We can all agree this was a better ending than remote control machine gun installed in car trunk to kill bad guys, right?

 

[Anarchy99]

The final seasons of BB and Ozark did not capture my interest as much as the earlier seasons did. I liked Ozark when they were trying to acquire and run the strip club, the lodge, the funeral parlor, the casino, etc. The first three seasons the cartel was a quake in your boots organization . . . involving wrath of the gods type fear. By the final season, there was only a mention and not much active involvement in any of the business entities. Sure, Javi was crazy, but they sort of humanized the cartel, Omar wasn't that menacing, the whole plot line involving the FBI wasn't all that interesting, and Wendy's foundation and political aspirations wasn't exactly gripping television. Basically, they ignored the day to day stuff and focused on the primary characters talking to each other a lot. They expanded the role of the kids . . . and I'm not sure that added much. If the overarching theme was about families doing what they have to do to stick together, it seems like they ended up completely messing up the family dynamic. By the end, I didn't really care about the Byrdes because they became so unlikable. Like many other people, we liked Ruth the best, and she ended up with the fate that Wendy (or others) should have had.

And what was the point of the car crash teaser at the start of S4? It had absolutely nothing to do with anything . . . it ended up a two-minute blip on the radar. TBH, I think I would have preferred if that's how the show ended, and it took out the whole family. All that effort to stay alive and "get out" of that lifestyle . . . all for nothing.

Both BB and Ozark did something else I'm generally not a big fan of. They added in several new characters near the end of the show, several of which impacted how the show ended. Javi, Mel, Camila, Clare, Nathan, Senator Schafer, etc. The biggest scene in the entire show featured Camila . . . who first appeared in Episode 38 of a show with 44 episodes. IMO, it's hard to get behind the most climactic scene in an entire series getting carried out by a part time character that just showed up out of nowhere.

Same situation with Breaking Bad. They added Lydia, Todd, Uncle Jack, Kenny, Frankie, Lester, and other peripheral characters as part of the crew of bad guys in the last season. The point being, for either show, to predict how a show would end, no one really could have guessed it, as none of those characters were involved over the first 75-85% of the show.

Overall, I was entertained by the show, but IMO the last (extended) season could and should have been a lot better. Maybe I'm just being overly critical . . .

 

[snogger]

Maybe it's just me but it seemed simple enough to understand the "why" for the crash.

They were barely back together as a family after daddy tried to poison the kids.

Surviving the crash made them realize family is family and nothing else matters. Next thing you know, kids are all dressed up for a party that without the crash they probably don't attend..   

 

[CGRdrJoe]

The final seasons of BB and Ozark did not capture my interest as much as the earlier seasons did. I liked Ozark when they were trying to acquire and run the strip club, the lodge, the funeral parlor, the casino, etc. The first three seasons the cartel was a quake in your boots organization . . . involving wrath of the gods type fear. By the final season, there was only a mention and not much active involvement in any of the business entities. Sure, Javi was crazy, but they sort of humanized the cartel, Omar wasn't that menacing, the whole plot line involving the FBI wasn't all that interesting, and Wendy's foundation and political aspirations wasn't exactly gripping television. Basically, they ignored the day to day stuff and focused on the primary characters talking to each other a lot. They expanded the role of the kids . . . and I'm not sure that added much. If the overarching theme was about families doing what they have to do to stick together, it seems like they ended up completely messing up the family dynamic. By the end, I didn't really care about the Byrdes because they became so unlikable. Like many other people, we liked Ruth the best, and she ended up with the fate that Wendy (or others) should have had.

And what was the point of the car crash teaser at the start of S4? It had absolutely nothing to do with anything . . . it ended up a two-minute blip on the radar. TBH, I think I would have preferred if that's how the show ended, and it took out the whole family. All that effort to stay alive and "get out" of that lifestyle . . . all for nothing.

Both BB and Ozark did something else I'm generally not a big fan of. They added in several new characters near the end of the show, several of which impacted how the show ended. Javi, Mel, Camila, Clare, Nathan, Senator Schafer, etc. The biggest scene in the entire show featured Camila . . . who first appeared in Episode 38 of a show with 44 episodes. IMO, it's hard to get behind the most climactic scene in an entire series getting carried out by a part time character that just showed up out of nowhere.

Same situation with Breaking Bad. They added Lydia, Todd, Uncle Jack, Kenny, Frankie, Lester, and other peripheral characters as part of the crew of bad guys in the last season. The point being, for either show, to predict how a show would end, no one really could have guessed it, as none of those characters were involved over the first 75-85% of the show.

Overall, I was entertained by the show, but IMO the last (extended) season could and should have been a lot better. Maybe I'm just being overly critical . . .

it took the kids almost dying to realize for all her flaws they still loved their mom. up til that point in the car Jonah was still like #### my mom and it took that for him to buy back into the family. we watched two different seasons 4 i think

 

[CGRdrJoe]

not a big fan of the show using the car wreck thing as a tease....felt unnecessary for the quality of the show and meant absolutely nothing when all was said and done...they all looked and acted like they could complete a cross fit competition afterwards....heck Wendy did more damage to her own head when she intentionally smashed it on the window....

i mean tiger woods should have died and he just played the masters, is it that big of a stretch?

 

[eoMMan]

**E News Update**
 

It’s confirmed that the actor who played Ben is now dating Kaley Cuoco from Big Bang Theory show.
 

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[fred_1_15301]

Ugh - that ending is going to sit with me for a while.  Not happy at all.

 

[beer 30]

i mean tiger woods should have died and he just played the masters, is it that big of a stretch?

This is the kind of next level thinking I've come to expect from you goons 

I was wondering this morning, I wonder what Jonah's reaction will/would be upon learning about Ruth's death? He didn't know when he pulled the trigger, wonder if it would have changed his decision or was he all in for the family at that point and shrugs it off as occupational hazard?

 

[kupcho1]

This is the kind of next level thinking I've come to expect from you goons 

I was wondering this morning, I wonder what Ben's reaction will/would be upon learning about Ruth's death? He didn't know when he pulled the trigger, wonder if it would have changed his decision or was he all in for the family at that point and shrugs it off as occupational hazard?

 

[beer 30]

You know who I meant

 

[offdee]

This is the kind of next level thinking I've come to expect from you goons 

I was wondering this morning, I wonder what Jonah's reaction will/would be upon learning about Ruth's death? He didn't know when he pulled the trigger, wonder if it would have changed his decision or was he all in for the family at that point and shrugs it off as occupational hazard?

Why would knowing about Ruth changed anything?  If anything, it would've probably made him more upset to go off the rails seeing that PI holding Ben's ashes and him patronizing the family with them.  Those ashes are what connected him and Ruth.

 

[Anarchy99]

Heard several fanboy / conspiracy theories since we didn't actually get to see what happens in the final seconds with Jonah and the screen faded to black. Those included:

- He shot a warning shot and didn't actually shoot anyone
- He shot Wendy because she had Ben taken out and cared more about herself
- He shot Marty for getting everyone into the giant mess they got into
- He shot himself because he couldn't deal with how everything played out
- The cartel, the police, the police/FBI, or other enemies shot at the family (Camila taking out one of the kids as payback, the police or FBI seeing Jonas with a shotgun, long line of people that were peeved at the Byrdes.)

Not sure if there is a compelling case for any of those. Maybe people just wanting a different ending than the one we got.

 

[bcat01]

Heard several fanboy / conspiracy theories since we didn't actually get to see what happens in the final seconds with Jonah and the screen faded to black. Those included:

- He shot a warning shot and didn't actually shoot anyone
- He shot Wendy because she had Ben taken out and cared more about herself
- He shot Marty for getting everyone into the giant mess they got into
- He shot himself because he couldn't deal with how everything played out
- The cartel, the police, the police/FBI, or other enemies shot at the family (Camila taking out one of the kids as payback, the police or FBI seeing Jonas with a shotgun, long line of people that were peeved at the Byrdes.)

Not sure if there is a compelling case for any of those. Maybe people just wanting a different ending than the one we got.

The showrunner says Jonah killed Mel in this article.  https://www.newsweek.com/ozark-season-4-ending-explained-jonah-mel-netflix-finale-1703375

 

[beer 30]

Why would knowing about Ruth changed anything?  If anything, it would've probably made him more upset to go off the rails seeing that PI holding Ben's ashes and him patronizing the family with them.  Those ashes are what connected him and Ruth.

Out of Jonah & Charlotte, Jonah was the first off the reservation and did the most to turn his back on the family and hamstring them when he could. Yea I get the car wreck brought everyone back together to weld the family unit back together but Jonah continually got body blows from Marty & Wendy's decisions (which is the reason he bailed on the family to begin with) so know Ruth got offed because of something Marty & Wendy were associated with might have been the last straw for him.

I think there's something to discuss there but it's moot. Just throwing stuff on the wall.

Heard several fanboy / conspiracy theories since we didn't actually get to see what happens in the final seconds with Jonah and the screen faded to black. Those included:

- He shot a warning shot and didn't actually shoot anyone
- He shot Wendy because she had Ben taken out and cared more about herself
- He shot Marty for getting everyone into the giant mess they got into
- He shot himself because he couldn't deal with how everything played out
- The cartel, the police, the police/FBI, or other enemies shot at the family (Camila taking out one of the kids as payback, the police or FBI seeing Jonas with a shotgun, long line of people that were peeved at the Byrdes.)

Not sure if there is a compelling case for any of those. Maybe people just wanting a different ending than the one we got.

Occam's Razor, he shot the PI

 

[offdee]

Out of Jonah & Charlotte, Jonah was the first off the reservation and did the most to turn his back on the family and hamstring them when he could. Yea I get the car wreck brought everyone back together to weld the family unit back together but Jonah continually got body blows from Marty & Wendy's decisions (which is the reason he bailed on the family to begin with) so know Ruth got offed because of something Marty & Wendy were associated with might have been the last straw for him.

I think there's something to discuss there but it's moot. Just throwing stuff on the wall.

Occam's Razor, he shot the PI

The "Jonah shot himself" theory is silly.  They showed him pointing the gun at PI, Marty, Wendy with his eye on the aim.   

 

[Gally]

Out of Jonah & Charlotte, Jonah was the first off the reservation and did the most to turn his back on the family and hamstring them when he could. 

Didn't Charlottw leave first with the emancipation situation and didn't Jonah leave because of Wendy being crazy.  He still had respect for Marty as Marty even helped him figure out the red flag issue that Wendy caused.  I believe Jonah o ly had a grudge against Wendy.

 

[offdee]

Didn't Charlottw leave first with the emancipation situation and didn't Jonah leave because of Wendy being crazy.  He still had respect for Marty as Marty even helped him figure out the red flag issue that Wendy caused.  I believe Jonah o ly had a grudge against Wendy.

Yep, exactly.   Jonah had a bond with Marty....they had mutual respect, and Marty helped and reached out to Jonah whenever he could.  They highlighted that at the Lazy O hotel scene when they both said "miss you" to each other.

Jonah's only gripe with Marty was that he was "always doing what Mom wanted".  

 

[fred_1_15301]

Laura Linney was amazing in this series.  The scene where she banged her head against the car window was straight from a horror movie.  The look on her face was frightening.

 

[offdee]

Laura Linney was amazing in this series.  The scene where she banged her head against the car window was straight from a horror movie.  The look on her face was frightening.

Was all that sequence of her banging her head, acting a little over the top schizo and the mental hospital all an attempt to make us think that the Ben crazy gene is starting to affect her now (and maybe that is why she is like she is)?    Or was she just fine mentally and all just an elaborate act to get her kids back?

 

[fred_1_15301]

Was all that sequence of her banging her head, acting a little over the top schizo and the mental hospital all an attempt to make us think that the Ben crazy gene is starting to affect her now (and maybe that is why she is like she is)?    Or was she just fine mentally and all just an elaborate act to get her kids back?

I was thinking the same thing.  Wendy Byrd was a brilliant psychopath.  I’m thinking it was a calculated move on her part.  The lie that she made up on the spot to her dad about her interaction with Ben at the diner was impressive.  Wendy was more of a genius than Marty IMO

 

[Payne]

Spoilers!!! 

Spoilers!!!!

All I know is if Clare Shaw isn't the most hated person in tv history. than I don't know who is, 

That dinner party scene reminded me of  the one from Heat where DeNiro has the money, has the girl and all he has to do is drive to the airport and be free, but NO!!! He has turn off to go after the guy who wronged him and ultimately to his demise. I have seen that movie a dozen times and even though I know it is coming and completely in line with who his character was, I still wish he would've kept driving. 

When Clare was asked that question by Navarro's sister, all she has to do was stay the course and everyone leaves happy--end of show. But NO!!! She has to spill the beans and unravel everything. Does she honestly think they will let her live now? I would have loved a 2 minute cut scene at the end of the show of something horrible happening to her. 

Great show. I don't think there was an ending that would have made everyone happy, but it was a great, great show. 

Never watched Game of Thrones I take it?

 

[Payne]

I never liked the show much.  This season was a little better early.  Worst ending ever.  I feel Charlie Browned.

You never watched Game of Thrones either I assume. 

 

[BeTheMatch]

Not sure how I wanted it to end. But that wasn't it.

 

[eoMMan]

spoilers below:

One thing I was wondering towards the end of the series…

With the cartel members (Javi/Nelson/Camila/etc) always being in town and having no qualms about killing someone, you would think everyone would be packing. Even Marty, Wendy….everyone. Ruth just killed a couple cartel people and rolls up to her house to find a cartel SUV in her driveway…why the hell doesn’t she at least have a pistol on her?

 

[Gally]

…why the hell doesn’t she at least have a pistol on her?

She was at a gala and didn't have a place to holster it?  It didn't go with her dress?

 

[eoMMan]

She was at a gala and didn't have a place to holster it?  It didn't go with her dress?

In her car’s glovebox then? A lot of people in the south (at least here in FL) will keep a pistol there.

 

[Gally]

In her car’s glovebox then? A lot of people in the south (at least here in FL) will keep a pistol there.

I was making a joke

 

[Pipes]

Spoilers below

Agree 100% with EoMMan.  With how street smart Ruth is her ending was terrible.  It's like she just gave up by pulling over and getting out of her vehicle.