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Pablo Torre investigation discussion (1 Viewer)
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Here's a link to Pablo's site and the doc is within
www.pablo.show
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Arthur Blank explains why Falcons pursued Deshaun Watson but not Lamar Jackson
Why would the Falcons not pursue Lamar Jackson?
Here's a bit by Schwab. I needed to refresh my memory on Lamar
From a union standpoint, this will be something that never gets forgotten and comes up during every negotiation from this point forward.
Collusion is always big. The concept of an open market yet they're colluding is awful.
I don't think the owners are all that wrong here and someone that's done business deals would need to chime in. Didn't everyone think Watson's contract was absurd? So then (other than above vague) why is it so wrong if the owners all think the same?
Prior two comments. I get lost in the hypocrisy. Can they both be true?
Every athletic QB that gets injured at a rate similar to Lamar will probably have some pause.
There are Falcons fans that bring up Lamar versus Cousins in a "we could have had him" light.
I don't understand the totality of Murray's issue. I haven't read the 100 page document completely. People question his commitment and were talking of him playing video games and all that back then.
Russ "Wuss" Wilson
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
lol - who pronounces “Russ” like that? Or “wuss” for that matter. Cmon man
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
for him to be complaining is absolutely absurd!
I really liked him before and with Denver (my team), despite the fact that he was an idiot when he was here. I forgave it all, but now, I hate the dude because he's a scumbag thief. Local radio said 4% of donations actually went to the end users... the absolute worst, by far, of all professional athletes with charities...
Russell Wilson's Why Not You Foundation faced scrutiny over its spending practices. A USA Today report indicated that the foundation allocated a significant portion of its funds to employee salaries and benefits rather than charitable causes, with only a fraction of each dollar going directly to aid programs.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
isn't that how charities work? Maybe I just don't know the inner workings but I just assumed that charities paid whatever expenses they had and then donated the rest. 
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I watched a much shorter video and @Bri can correct me if I'm wrong here but basically Goodell wanted to limit the number of guaranteed money in (QB?) contracts.
As far as I know, and I did not read all of the report, Russ was not complaining. It was the union rep, JC Tretter, insulting and complaining about him because he felt that Russ could have pushed for his total contract extension with Denver to be guaranteed and helped set a precedent.
bro1ncos
IBL Representative
Basically any guaranteed contract, but yes 3 QBs were the focus.
Real question is why did the NFLPA union sit on this news for 5 months? This should be something that the players want out there in the public.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I mean isn't the finding that there wasn't collusion?
This is the same thing every sports league does. Share the salaries and decisions made across teams, show how it's gotten super high or exceeds growth in some areas, and show the teams which ones among them are being dumb.
With arbitration we used to specifically design the update decks to make it obvious that someone whose GM didn't aggressively go in arbitration cost him a bunch of money and we'd try to make sure he felt dumb or annoyed in front of the other owners.
It's not collusion. Nobody makes a deal or acts in concert, but the league office's job is to provide the facts of the situation and also protect the economic viability of the business. One good way to do that is make sure everyone knows how stupid somebody was and publicly rail their stupidity so others don't want to be made fun of by their billionaire competitors.
This is the same thing every sports league does. Share the salaries and decisions made across teams, show how it's gotten super high or exceeds growth in some areas, and show the teams which ones among them are being dumb.
With arbitration we used to specifically design the update decks to make it obvious that someone whose GM didn't aggressively go in arbitration cost him a bunch of money and we'd try to make sure he felt dumb or annoyed in front of the other owners.
It's not collusion. Nobody makes a deal or acts in concert, but the league office's job is to provide the facts of the situation and also protect the economic viability of the business. One good way to do that is make sure everyone knows how stupid somebody was and publicly rail their stupidity so others don't want to be made fun of by their billionaire competitors.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
1. Cleveland gave fully guaranteed contract to Watson
2. NFL league office recognizes that could be pretty harmful to economics of league if it becomes the norm, tells everyone how it was dumb and why it should not be the norm
3. Teams independently listened and decided they didn't want to be the next guy who made it the norm.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
Shouldn't the NFLFPA also not want these big mega contracts? Since there'd be less $$$ to go around? From a player standpoint it makes sense to want a ton of guaranteed money but from the NFL standpoint it could make teams not as competitive and really water down an already watered down product.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I've never found a players' union that cares about the product (or any other union, but thats a whole other thing).
The union in the NFL is typically fighting for:
1. A higher % of the pie
2. More guaranteed contracts
3. Better lifetime healthcare
4. Have to work less (e.g., fewer practices, limits on offseason activities)
5. Fewer FA restrictions
