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Packers RB Green injures hamstring (1 Viewer)
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NatronIsMean
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LOL! well said. "The time to sell is gone" sounds ridiculous. Ahman looks great this year, is the undisputed RB1 in a decent offense on a team with NO defense, catches out of the backfield 5-7 times a game, and his "sell now" window is gone?! And this is just sheer stupidity:Aaronstory said:I see. So you can gloat over Flawed, NOW, but when Green is fine and goes off, you can't gloat THEN. Got it.Limp Ditka said:You have a hard time comprehending the concept of NOW, don't you?Aaronstory said:He's not even ruled out yet. What if he plays with pain (as he has done in eth past) and goes off for 120 yards and 3 TDs. You'd be a real genius then.Limp Ditka said:Roll those babies all you want.Fact is Ahman was worth something after week one.Fact is that worth went down after week two performanceFact is Ahman is worth even less, if anything at all now.Sell high time is gone. I hope objective people took advantage of the situation when it was presented to them.You think the time to sell high has passed yet?
He hurt a hammy, but he didn't turn into Quentin Griffin or "RB houston", bud
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Would that be on that stage football field on ESPN that Tom Jackson and crew act out plays?
Big Score
Footballguy
This info was relevant when we were trying to determine if Green would be able to come back from the torn quad tendon, or not.Since he has already come back from it and played well, considering the overall sad state of the Packers offense, I'm unsure of the point of resurrecting this old post.
All the reading I have done on quad tendon tears, is that once they're repaired, they're repaired. The chance of the same quad tendon being re-injured, is negligible.
Now I do know from my research on quad tendon tears, the leg that suffered the injury, is likely to be weaker.
My question would be, which leg suffered the hammy injury?
IF it's the same leg that suffered the quad tendon tear, then it MIGHT be correlated. However, a hammy injury occurring to a professional athlete is not exactly an extraordinarily uncommon event, so it could just be Green tweaked his hammy, even if it is the same leg that he suffered the torn quad tendon to.
But worrying about Green's quad tendon itself being re-injured, is not that great of a great concern according to multiple medical resources that I've referenced, regarding quad tendon tears.
All I'd be concerned about, is Green's hammy.
packersfan
Footballguy
Update from RotoWorld for those interested:
The Packers are reportedly "relatively confident" Ahman Green (questionable, hamstring) will be able to play Sunday.
Green Bay is also reportedly concerned that Green could re-aggravate the injury, which has been described as "soreness." He can't be relied on in fantasy leagues for this week's game.
Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette
The Packers are reportedly "relatively confident" Ahman Green (questionable, hamstring) will be able to play Sunday.
Green Bay is also reportedly concerned that Green could re-aggravate the injury, which has been described as "soreness." He can't be relied on in fantasy leagues for this week's game.
Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
redman
Footballguy
Yeah, but we know that Watson won't steal Green's job.
Morency will get the start Sunday if Green (hamstring) is unable to go, the Journal Sentinel reports.
source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/bri...m?playerId=8487
source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/bri...m?playerId=8487
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
ehhhhere's the actual article:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=502497
the line in the tittle says "Morency MIGHT Start if Green is out"
Chickenwang
Footballguy
there's your damn link!
STATUS, I'm sure you were trying to be funny with that zinger, and weren't really serious.He's wanting to know if there has been any update on the status of Green.
Ertic, the latest is that Morency might start:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=502497
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Might start IF Green is out - that's not really saying anything about Green's status.
ghosttothepost
Footballguy
This is a CLASSIC example of how misinformation gets spread, not just on message boards, but within the media itself. If you read the actual article, there was absolutely nothing said by anyone in the Packer's organization other than that Morency was "ready to go" and "looked good." For whatever reason, the article's author then titles it "Morency might start if Green is out." Espn then picks it up and declares Morency WILL start if Green is out and cites the article as the source. Just another example of why it's so important to go theJetsWillWin said:
Phurfur
Footballguy
Morency is more talented than Ahman and Herron put together??? I think your eyes are playing tricks on you? How many times have you seen these guys play? I think you are a lightweight when it comes to football knowledge and really don't have a clue. I will ignore all your posts in the future. Credibility = Zero.
Big Score
Footballguy
Well if you really read the article, it tells us Herron got all the 3rd down work & Morency the early downs.This is a CLASSIC example of how misinformation gets spread, not just on message boards, but within the media itself. If you read the actual article, there was absolutely nothing said by anyone in the Packer's organization other than that Morency was "ready to go" and "looked good." For whatever reason, the article's author then titles it "Morency might start if Green is out." Espn then picks it up and declares Morency WILL start if Green is out and cites the article as the source. Just another example of why it's so important to go theJetsWillWin said:
www.madison.comI don't think it really matters who starts, but from the above practice report, it's looking like Morency would play Green's role & Herron would play Morency's role as the 3rd down back, if Green is a no go.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
FWIW, I wasn't sure what that meant either. I figured it was probably status, but even that didn't make a lot of sense in that sentence. It seemed a quite reasonable question.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Green said he hurt the hamstring last weekend in the Packers' 34-27 loss to New Orleans.
"It felt better during the week," he said. "(But) it's irritated. Nothing big."
He wouldn't say which hamstring it was, but said he is optimistic he can play at Ford Field and handle a full load. "Oh, yeah, I'll be fine," he said.
"It felt better during the week," he said. "(But) it's irritated. Nothing big."
He wouldn't say which hamstring it was, but said he is optimistic he can play at Ford Field and handle a full load. "Oh, yeah, I'll be fine," he said.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Mike McCarthy Press Conference Transcript - Sept. 22
(Did Ahman not go today?)
Ahman Green did not go today.
(What's the injury?)
Hamstring.
(Will you add him to the injury report?)
Yes, we're going to add him to the injury report. Questionable.
(Do you know how it happened?)
Just the wear the last two days, it flared up on him at the end of practice yesterday.
(Any concern for Sunday with him? )
I hope not. We're just being smart. We'll know more in the morning.
(If Green can't play, how much can you expect out of Morency in the offense?)
Morency is ready to go. He took all the reps today, him and Noah, so we plan to get him more involved this week just at the beginning of the week. He'll be ready to go. Him and Noah are both ready to go and we'll just move on.
(Did Ahman not go today?)
Ahman Green did not go today.
(What's the injury?)
Hamstring.
(Will you add him to the injury report?)
Yes, we're going to add him to the injury report. Questionable.
(Do you know how it happened?)
Just the wear the last two days, it flared up on him at the end of practice yesterday.
(Any concern for Sunday with him? )
I hope not. We're just being smart. We'll know more in the morning.
(If Green can't play, how much can you expect out of Morency in the offense?)
Morency is ready to go. He took all the reps today, him and Noah, so we plan to get him more involved this week just at the beginning of the week. He'll be ready to go. Him and Noah are both ready to go and we'll just move on.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Notes: Green injures hamstring
If he's out, Morency might start ahead of Herron
By BOB McGINN
bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Sept. 22, 2006
Green Bay - A late-week hamstring injury kept Ahman Green from practicing Friday and might force the Green Bay Packers to start newcomer Vernand Morency Sunday in Detroit.
Coach Mike McCarthy added Green to the injury report as questionable and indicated that he wasn't sure how bad the injury was.
"We'll know more in the morning," McCarthy said. "Hamstring. Just the wear from the last two days flared up on him at the end of practice yesterday."
In a walk-through Friday to open practice, Green ran most of the plays with the No. 1 offense. If there was little chance for him to play, it's likely that the coaches would have tried to give Morency and Noah Herron every snap possible. They did take all the snaps in the team portion.
Green would seem to be just about as important a player as the Packers have on the roster. He has played 83.2% of the snaps in the first two games, whereas Herron has played 8.8% and Morency didn't play any last week in his first game for Green Bay.
"Morency's ready to go," said McCarthy, who didn't say which backup would start for Green. "We planned at the beginning of the week to get him more involved."
One of the flaws that kept Morency off the field with the Texans was blitz pickup. Even though Morency has played only 10 days with the Packers, McCarthy expressed no reservations in that area.
"He's picked it up very fast," McCarthy said. "I'm very happy with him."
Morency, 5 feet 9½ inches and 217 pounds, carried 80 times for 340 yards, a 4.3-yard average, and two touchdowns in two exhibition seasons for Houston. In the regular season, he carried 46 times for 184 yards, a 4.0 average and two touchdowns.
His only start as a rookie came in the finale at San Francisco, where he carried 21 times for 83 yards and a score.
"Morency is more of an I-back, more of maybe what Ahman Green was when he came out of Nebraska," an NFC personnel director said. "You want to line him up in the I and you want his shoulders to be square when the gets the ball. That’s when he’s at his best, making one cut and go."
Morency didn’t run at the combine in February 2005. He ran 40 yards the next month on what scouts regard as a fast grass surface at Miami and clocked 4.64 seconds.
"They usually run faster at Miami than they do at the combine," the scout said. "I thought he was much faster than that but he plays fast. He’s got really good acceleration and he’s a really tough runner. Kind of a narrow-based guy and will get tripped up. He’s a little bit like Tony Fisher. Kind of a straight-line guy. His hands are good."
Two scouts said Morency had enough ability to have a chance to become a starter.
"He hits the hole hard," the scout said. "He’s got a little elusiveness once he gets into the secondary. He can make the first guy miss consistently. And he’s a willing blocker."
If he's out, Morency might start ahead of Herron
By BOB McGINN
bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Sept. 22, 2006
Green Bay - A late-week hamstring injury kept Ahman Green from practicing Friday and might force the Green Bay Packers to start newcomer Vernand Morency Sunday in Detroit.
Coach Mike McCarthy added Green to the injury report as questionable and indicated that he wasn't sure how bad the injury was.
"We'll know more in the morning," McCarthy said. "Hamstring. Just the wear from the last two days flared up on him at the end of practice yesterday."
In a walk-through Friday to open practice, Green ran most of the plays with the No. 1 offense. If there was little chance for him to play, it's likely that the coaches would have tried to give Morency and Noah Herron every snap possible. They did take all the snaps in the team portion.
Green would seem to be just about as important a player as the Packers have on the roster. He has played 83.2% of the snaps in the first two games, whereas Herron has played 8.8% and Morency didn't play any last week in his first game for Green Bay.
"Morency's ready to go," said McCarthy, who didn't say which backup would start for Green. "We planned at the beginning of the week to get him more involved."
One of the flaws that kept Morency off the field with the Texans was blitz pickup. Even though Morency has played only 10 days with the Packers, McCarthy expressed no reservations in that area.
"He's picked it up very fast," McCarthy said. "I'm very happy with him."
Morency, 5 feet 9½ inches and 217 pounds, carried 80 times for 340 yards, a 4.3-yard average, and two touchdowns in two exhibition seasons for Houston. In the regular season, he carried 46 times for 184 yards, a 4.0 average and two touchdowns.
His only start as a rookie came in the finale at San Francisco, where he carried 21 times for 83 yards and a score.
"Morency is more of an I-back, more of maybe what Ahman Green was when he came out of Nebraska," an NFC personnel director said. "You want to line him up in the I and you want his shoulders to be square when the gets the ball. That’s when he’s at his best, making one cut and go."
Morency didn’t run at the combine in February 2005. He ran 40 yards the next month on what scouts regard as a fast grass surface at Miami and clocked 4.64 seconds.
"They usually run faster at Miami than they do at the combine," the scout said. "I thought he was much faster than that but he plays fast. He’s got really good acceleration and he’s a really tough runner. Kind of a narrow-based guy and will get tripped up. He’s a little bit like Tony Fisher. Kind of a straight-line guy. His hands are good."
Two scouts said Morency had enough ability to have a chance to become a starter.
"He hits the hole hard," the scout said. "He’s got a little elusiveness once he gets into the secondary. He can make the first guy miss consistently. And he’s a willing blocker."
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I hope the guy plays on Sunday.
I'd much rather have him prove his worth on the field than sitting on the bench
I'd much rather have him prove his worth on the field than sitting on the bench
Rotoworld:
Vernand Morency-RB-Packers Sep. 23 - 7:17 pm et
Vernand Morency took the bulk of the first- and second-down reps during Packers practice Friday.
Morency appears the favorite to receive goal-line carries if Ahman Green can't play on Sunday, though he'd still likely lose third downs to Noah Herron. Make sure Morency is not on your league's waiver wire.
Source: Wisconsin State Journal
Noah Herron-RB-Packers Sep. 23 - 7:13 pm et
Noah Herron is expected to be Green Bay's third-down back in Week 3 if Ahman Green (questionable, hamstring) can't play.
Herron took the third-down reps during Friday's practice, while Vernand Morency did early-down work. Since Morency seems more likely to get potential goal-line carries, he would be the better fantasy play.
Source: Wisconsin State Journal
Vernand Morency-RB-Packers Sep. 23 - 7:17 pm et
Vernand Morency took the bulk of the first- and second-down reps during Packers practice Friday.
Morency appears the favorite to receive goal-line carries if Ahman Green can't play on Sunday, though he'd still likely lose third downs to Noah Herron. Make sure Morency is not on your league's waiver wire.
Source: Wisconsin State Journal
Noah Herron-RB-Packers Sep. 23 - 7:13 pm et
Noah Herron is expected to be Green Bay's third-down back in Week 3 if Ahman Green (questionable, hamstring) can't play.
Herron took the third-down reps during Friday's practice, while Vernand Morency did early-down work. Since Morency seems more likely to get potential goal-line carries, he would be the better fantasy play.
Source: Wisconsin State Journal
SlaX
Footballguy
FBG projected Green with zip on today's projections. Are they ahead of themselves or is there something confirmed that hasn't been mentioned in this thread?
edit: According to this thread, Dodds had Green projected with zero yesterday and just didn't change it today with the news that he's still playing. Unless that assumption is wrong, just ignore this post.
edit: According to this thread, Dodds had Green projected with zero yesterday and just didn't change it today with the news that he's still playing. Unless that assumption is wrong, just ignore this post.
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Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Confirming your post here:http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/ind...085&ntpid=3
So, does this make Morency the guy to have?
packersfan
Footballguy
I wouldn't go that far. Yes, he could be viewed as more of a future successor to Green than Noah Herron but that's hardly saying much. I've been saying for a very long time that Herron is the definition of ordinary. That Morency could leap past him this week and start should Green not play speaks volumes to that. I do like Morency and I really liked the trade. I think the Texans may have errored in giving up on him based on what I saw from him last season and even in the pre-season this year. I really thought he was their best RB ahead of Lundy. In any event, the Packers gave up very little (Gado) to get him so if Morency doesn't pan out the cost will have been minimal. I'm not sure if Morency is the RB of the future by any means but I would like to see what he can do on the field. But even if Morency does well I fully expect to see the Packers address the RB position next year in the draft and/or free agency.At least I hope Thompson does. His track record of improving the team is hardly stellar at the moment.
Kleck.
Footballguy
Nope. Week 3 is his best so far.You think the time to sell high has passed yet?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I haven't been able to watch any of the game todayNumbers look great today catching the ball out of the backfield, but 2.5 YPC is not good.Nope. Week 3 is his best so far.You think the time to sell high has passed yet?
wannabee
Footballguy
turner is worth a ton more than morency ... and I am a morency fan
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
Roll those babies all you want.Fact is Ahman was worth something after week one.Fact is that worth went down after week two performanceFact is Ahman is worth even less, if anything at all now.Sell high time is gone. I hope objective people took advantage of the situation when it was presented to them.You think the time to sell high has passed yet?
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
It's time to own up - you were 100% wrong, to say the least!And I would fully expect him to tell me that I was wrong, and would gladly admit to it.I see. So you can gloat over Flawed, NOW, but when Green is fine and goes off, you can't gloat THEN. Got it.You have a hard time comprehending the concept of NOW, don't you?He's not even ruled out yet. What if he plays with pain (as he has done in eth past) and goes off for 120 yards and 3 TDs. You'd be a real genius then.Roll those babies all you want.Fact is Ahman was worth something after week one.Fact is that worth went down after week two performanceFact is Ahman is worth even less, if anything at all now.Sell high time is gone. I hope objective people took advantage of the situation when it was presented to them.You think the time to sell high has passed yet?
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
It's time to own up - you were 100% wrong, to say the least!And I would fully expect him to tell me that I was wrong, and would gladly admit to it.I see. So you can gloat over Flawed, NOW, but when Green is fine and goes off, you can't gloat THEN. Got it.You have a hard time comprehending the concept of NOW, don't you?He's not even ruled out yet. What if he plays with pain (as he has done in eth past) and goes off for 120 yards and 3 TDs. You'd be a real genius then.Roll those babies all you want.Fact is Ahman was worth something after week one.Fact is that worth went down after week two performanceFact is Ahman is worth even less, if anything at all now.Sell high time is gone. I hope objective people took advantage of the situation when it was presented to them.You think the time to sell high has passed yet?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I guess post #133 is broken100% wrong is stretching it a little as there was little to no value when the report came out of the hamstring.Now the value is back as he had a very good game catching the ball out of the backfield and saw paydirt.I would still suggest selling high unless you're in a PPR league, where I have stated he still have value. That 2.5 YPC he's put up 2 weeks in a row is NOT GOOD.It's time to own up - you were 100% wrong, to say the least!And I would fully expect him to tell me that I was wrong, and would gladly admit to it.I see. So you can gloat over Flawed, NOW, but when Green is fine and goes off, you can't gloat THEN. Got it.You have a hard time comprehending the concept of NOW, don't you?He's not even ruled out yet. What if he plays with pain (as he has done in eth past) and goes off for 120 yards and 3 TDs. You'd be a real genius then.Roll those babies all you want.Fact is Ahman was worth something after week one.Fact is that worth went down after week two performanceFact is Ahman is worth even less, if anything at all now.Sell high time is gone. I hope objective people took advantage of the situation when it was presented to them.You think the time to sell high has passed yet?
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
This quote by Limp Ditka is rather entertaining...
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
All you had to do is own up, man. That's it. No biggie though - you're just asking for a razzing when you start saying "I would fully expect him to tell me that I was wrong, and would gladly admit to it."I guess post #133 is brokenIt's time to own up - you were 100% wrong, to say the least!And I would fully expect him to tell me that I was wrong, and would gladly admit to it.I see. So you can gloat over Flawed, NOW, but when Green is fine and goes off, you can't gloat THEN. Got it.You have a hard time comprehending the concept of NOW, don't you?He's not even ruled out yet. What if he plays with pain (as he has done in eth past) and goes off for 120 yards and 3 TDs. You'd be a real genius then.Roll those babies all you want.
Fact is Ahman was worth something after week one.
Fact is that worth went down after week two performance
Fact is Ahman is worth even less, if anything at all now.
Sell high time is gone. I hope objective people took advantage of the situation when it was presented to them.
100% wrong is stretching it a little as there was little to no value when the report came out of the hamstring.
Now the value is back as he had a very good game catching the ball out of the backfield and saw paydirt.
I would still suggest selling high unless you're in a PPR league, where I have stated he still have value. That 2.5 YPC he's put up 2 weeks in a row is NOT GOOD.
Just helping you man up
mr. furley
Footballguy
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
Roll those babies all you want.Fact is Ahman was worth something after week one.Fact is that worth went down after week two performanceFact is Ahman is worth even less, if anything at all now.Sell high time is gone. I hope objective people took advantage of the situation when it was presented to them.You think the time to sell high has passed yet?
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